ATNR (Auckland Thursday night ride) - Discussion thread

**lukelin250** · 15th November 2006, 23:34

Originally Posted by Toaster

Food for thought....

So the cop caught you at 180kmh but put 160kmh on the ticket.... Courts rule on the evidence/facts: You weren't riding at 160 as the ticket says - you did 180. The facts differ from the officer's notes... so you may have a legal defence in Court to get off the speeding ticket (which I assume was a traffic offence notice, not an infringement notice).

I'd write to the PIB and suggest they drop the ticket/charge given that the cop has not used the correct speed. It may save you your licence.

Don't get me wrong, I support the police, but if they do this sort of thing then it can be defended against. They have been told not to do it becasaue they may (will) lose in Court.

true but since the ticket is the fact i probly cant dispute it saying he radar said higher, although on the ticket he did make a muddle of writing down the speed cause he wrote 180 then wrote 160 over the top of it,thus making it look very muddled and messy,maybe that invalids it? . still i dont think saying i was ticketd doing 160 when i was actually doing 180 is a smart legal move, maybe they will just say that means a bigger fine if i actually admit to doing higher speeds.

**Disco Dan** · 15th November 2006, 23:36

Originally Posted by skidMark

well it's how to make the newbies ride faster if they r slow at the back ride fast or become a possum

haha just kidding

gotta finish lowering it tommorrow mwuahahahahahahah

at the moment only one corner is lowered..... drives kinda fucked LOL

ya know it's a 'bike' ride ay?

hehehe

**skidMark** · 15th November 2006, 23:47

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

ya know it's a 'bike' ride ay?

hehehe

meh they go slow enough at the back

**Disco Dan** · 16th November 2006, 00:08

Originally Posted by skidMark

meh they go slow enough at the back

but hey, remember its west aucks... dont want your luvly shiny round thingys going walkies!

so you going to fit a big rubber bumper to the front of it and give the newbies a helpful 'push' if they lag behind???

**skidMark** · 16th November 2006, 00:15

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

but hey, remember its west aucks... dont want your luvly shiny round thingys going walkies!

so you going to fit a big rubber bumper to the front of it and give the newbies a helpful 'push' if they lag behind???

i was just ugnna use kitchen knifes strapped to the front but a rubber bumper is more humain i suppose

**Phenoix** · 16th November 2006, 06:07

Hopefully you do that to a cop bike.
To birds with one stone.
All the cops will be chasing Mark in his smoker

**Toaster** · 16th November 2006, 10:55

Originally Posted by lukelin250

true ....

I understand your point about making an admission.... if you know a lawyer who can advise you on the case law, it may be worth it if you are facing a conviction and loss of licence (and possibly your job?).

The police were told to cease the practice of writing down a lower speed on a ticket because it would risk them losing the case in Court if challenged - The speed indicated on the ticket was not the speed actually being done and may therefore may be invalidated. That is all I can recall sorry.

The issue would be that you were not doing that speed and the facts the police would use in Court would indicate an untruthful speed. You should need to specify the speed you did, but the cop will have to be honest and say that the speed he caught you at was not the speed indicated on the ticket and therefor you have been ticketed incorrectly.

Having said all that, if I may say so, the decent thing to do is take it on the chin, because you were exceeding the speed limit by quite a margin! I was merely pointing out a legal option for you.

**Indiana_Jones** · 16th November 2006, 14:19

Ride going ahead tonight?

-Indy

**pinkhoggirl** · 16th November 2006, 14:20

Originally Posted by The_Dover

get help dan

gingers are evil...

EXCUSE me!!!....?????

(Voices in head: "obliterate the enemy....make him pay...")

And its SEXY HOT BITCH to you...

**Pumba** · 16th November 2006, 14:22

Last time I was outside the weather didnt look great. Put me down for a maybe.

**Boosted** · 16th November 2006, 14:23

i might be a maybe

it'll be the first time i'll be legal for a change

lol go the learners!

**ManDownUnder** · 16th November 2006, 14:30

Originally Posted by pinkhoggirl

EXCUSE me!!!....?????

(Voices in head: "obliterate the enemy....make him pay...")

And its SEXY HOT BITCH to you...

LMAO!!!!!!!!

She's back, she's bad and she's pissed....

**Jonny Rotten** · 16th November 2006, 14:33

put me down for a "fuckin hell yeah !!!"

mark if your cars smokey youll probably get pulled over hahaha

skidmark stars in!!!! SMOKEY AND THE ARSE BANDIT!