911 conspiracy on tv 16 december

[Indiana_Jones]

I believe what the 43 year old virgin on his grandma's computer says lol

-Indy

[Skyryder]

When The Rainbow Warriour Sunk Who Woulda Thought It Would Be A So Called Nation Friendly To Us That Woulda Done It , Anyone Pointing The Finger To The Dirty French First Off Woulda Been Called Outrageous , So Why Is It Not Plausable That Someone As Fucked Up As Gw Bush Would Fuck Up His Own Citizens

Conspiracy theories give rise to plausable explanations. Prior to the arrest of of Marfat and Prieur the public had no knowledge of a 'French connection" other than the yaucht Ouvea was from New Calidonia. There was no French connection untill the arrest and as such no linkage.

[Steam]

The Russians bombed one of their own apartment buildings and blamed it on the Chechens, becasue public opinion of their war there was softening.
They as much as admitted that, and several high-ranking in the FSB (KGB) were fired for incompetence, from what I remember.
SO it's not beyond the realm of doubt.
I'm downloading Loose Change 2nd Edition right now on Bittorrent, will watch it tomorrow.
I think Osama did it though, but it will be fun to see the doco just for kicks.

[WINJA]

Conspiracy theories give rise to plausable explanations. Prior to the arrest of of Marfat and Prieur the public had no knowledge of a 'French connection" other than the yaucht Ouvea was from New Calidonia. There was no French connection untill the arrest and as such no linkage.

AND UNTILL PROOF WAS OFFERED THE ACUSATION OF THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT WOULDA BEEN A CONSPIRICY THEORY AS WHO WOULD BELIEVE A DMOCRATIC NORMAL TYPE COUNTRY WOULD CARRY OUT A TERRORIST ACT ON ANOTHER NORMAL DEMOCRATIC TYPE COUNTRY .

AS FOR THE RAINBOW WARRIOUR IT STILL PISSES ME OFF , WE SHOULDA HUNG THOSE DIRTY FRENCHMEN INSTEAD WE SENT THEM HOME , AND THE AMERICANS SHOULDA EMBARGOED FRENCH IMPORTS YET NONE OF OUR SO CALLED FRIENDS BACKED US UP , ITS HARD FOR ME TO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE VICTIMS OF 911 WHEN THEY REALLY DIDNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US

[KATWYN]

Pretty amazing how the airliner that flew into the pentagon managed
to come screaming in ......and not knock down one of the lamp posts/posts
and various other obstacles that would have been in its path on route to its resting place in the pentagon........I would have thought that the plane would have had a wake of destruction in its path and have taken everything out,considering how long a runway has to be to allow for a landing plane.........I didn't see that amount of barron land surrounding the pentagon

[Steam]

I do my part to remind the French that their country is a Terrorist State. Whenever I meed a French tourist at work, I say "oh have you been hassled much about the French doing the terrorist bombing of the Rainbow warrior? Cos some people I know really hate the french here in New Zealand"
and they go all quiet and look away.
Cocksuckers. No wonder they caved in so fast in WW2, they love world domination.

[terbang]

THEY REALLY DIDNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US

And they still don't...

[WINJA]

Pretty amazing how the airliner that flew into the pentagon managed
to come screaming in ......and not knock down one of the lamp posts/posts
and various other obstacles that would have been in its path on route to its resting place in the pentagon........I would have thought that the plane would have had a wake of destruction in its path and have taken everything out,considering how long a runway has to be to allow for a landing plane.........I didn't see that amount of barron land surrounding the pentagon

YOUR SO HOT WHEN YOU GET TECHNICAL.
DID YOU ALSO SEE THE PICS WHERE THE ENTRY HOLE TO THE PENTAGON WAS TINY IT DID NOT AT ALL LOOK LIKE AN AIR CRAFT THAT BIG HIT THERE

[Skyryder]

AND UNTILL PROOF WAS OFFERED THE ACUSATION OF THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT WOULDA BEEN A CONSPIRICY THEORY AS WHO WOULD BELIEVE A DMOCRATIC NORMAL TYPE COUNTRY WOULD CARRY OUT A TERRORIST ACT ON ANOTHER NORMAL DEMOCRATIC TYPE COUNTRY .

AS FOR THE RAINBOW WARRIOUR IT STILL PISSES ME OFF , WE SHOULDA HUNG THOSE DIRTY FRENCHMEN INSTEAD WE SENT THEM HOME , AND THE AMERICANS SHOULDA EMBARGOED FRENCH IMPORTS YET NONE OF OUR SO CALLED FRIENDS BACKED US UP , ITS HARD FOR ME TO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE VICTIMS OF 911 WHEN THEY REALLY DIDNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US

Well I'm with you on the Rainbow Warrior. But you miss what I'm saying. Conspiricies need a connection. The connection with 9/11 are many and have to do with the American Government. There's no conspiracy against the Brits, French or anyone else becasue there is no connection with them to 9/11

Conspiricies do not offer proof, they suggest other altenitives (subjective) from the official explanation. No one has proved that the Americans were involved in 9/11 just a series of hypothesis to substantuate the theory that the Federal government was involved in 9/11. Conspiricy theories, all of them, exist becasue there is no way disproove the allegations.

That's my last word Winj.

This should keep some of you busy for a day or two.

http://www.carpenoctem.tv/cons/

Skyryder

[scumdog]

9-11 conspiracy theory? Mwahahahahaa!
The world has a lot of suckers that leap onto every conspiracy bandwagon that goes past their door.
I wonder what next years No1 conspiracy is going to be?

Did you hear how the Govt wants all new cars to be fitted with GPS - only it's not just GPS, it's a system for controlling your speed, oooooh now THERE'S a conspiracy to consider eh?

[Winston001]

I haven't followed the links so will reserve judgement.

However in life I've found that Occams Razor is a useful tool. This is a logical rule which says:

One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

Or put another way - the most simple explanation, is likely to be the right one.

Conspiracies are always complex explanations, requiring the collusion of human beings to create a secret plan, carry it out, and then keep it hidden from everyone else. When large organisations such as government agencies are involved, keeping the secret becomes impossible.

For example, the moon landing hoax. For this to be true, the conspirators would have needed to suborn literally thousands of people - scientists, astronomers, technicians, the astronaughts themselves, and journalists. How likely is it that all of these people were persuaded to lie and not blurt it out eventually?

So the 9/11 conspiracy requires people to set the bombs, people to die flying the planes, and organisers. How likely is it that?

The simple answer is that terrorists did exactly what we saw them do. Simple and all too terrible.

[ManDownUnder]

I haven't followed the links so will reserve judgement.

However in life I've found that Occams Razor is a useful tool. This is a logical rule which says:

One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

Or put another way - the most simple explanation, is likely to be the right one.

Conspiracies are always complex explanations, requiring the collusion of human beings to create a secret plan, carry it out, and then keep it hidden from everyone else. When large organisations such as government agencies are involved, keeping the secret becomes impossible.

For example, the moon landing hoax. For this to be true, the conspirators would have needed to suborn literally thousands of people - scientists, astronomers, technicians, the astronaughts themselves, and journalists. How likely is it that all of these people were persuaded to lie and not blurt it out eventually?

So the 9/11 conspiracy requires people to set the bombs, people to die flying the planes, and organisers. How likely is it that?

The simple answer is that terrorists did exactly what we saw them do. Simple and all too terrible.

'ang about. Here's the theory - it wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon.

Supporting comments (for discussion only, I reserve judgement on what actually happened)

• Plane hitting pentagon should have wrecked more stuff on approach
• Hole in Pentagon wall too small
• Bits found at scene too small for missing plane

What else is needed again?

[pervert]

'ang about. Here's the theory - it wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon.

Supporting comments (for discussion only, I reserve judgement on what actually happened)

• Plane hitting pentagon should have wrecked more stuff on approach
• Hole in Pentagon wall too small
• Bits found at scene too small for missing plane

What else is needed again?

You're always going to get people who think they know best, when they don't even know 1 fact about the situation.

He states the most simple explanation is usually right, well the most simple explanation for the Pentagon is that it WAS NOT hit by a plane...but like I've said before, not I, or any of you know what REALLY happened.

[ManDownUnder]

...but like I've said before, not I, or any of you know what REALLY happened.

BULLSEYE!

[Lissa]

Didnt see the doc, but of course the figgin plane hit the pentagon... if it didnt, what happened to it and all the passengers. Werent passengers on that plane, on cell phones at the time of the impact? Wasnt the plane full of fuel, once it crashed it exploded thus not alot of bits left.. oh I wish I had watched it. There is always going to be conspiracy theories.. I just think its sad so many innocent people lost their lives.