Cost of not wearing a helmet...

**bobsmith** · 18th December 2006, 07:03

This is STUPID.

Someone asks about penelties for not wearing a helmet, and a fucking safety campaign starts. Did he ever say that he's not going to wear a helmet? NO.

And if he did and gets himself caught for a $150 fine, that's none of our business, and if he gets himself maimed or killed, that's none of our business either, that's his free choice...

Oh hang on.... I forget, I don't live in a free country any more do I...

This country is so bent on saving people from themselves, that it's prepared to sacrifise people's freedom to do it... Hell might as well outlaw all motorcycling while we're at it...

[edit] - oh and as for your question, I believe if you get caught, you'll be funding $150 towards this country's legalised terrerism of its population but at least you won't be getting any demerit points I believe...

**pervert** · 18th December 2006, 07:05

Originally Posted by grego

lastly: Its a great feeling to cruise down the road on a hot summers day without a stinking sweaty lid on your noggin and being able to make your own choices......

Hahahaha finally someone with decent input.

It's even better when your in shorts and a t-shirt (good thing that's legal), the whole point of a hot days ride is to get the air circulating, not much point when your wrapped in leather and a face mask.

Originally Posted by bobsmith

This is STUPID.

Someone asks about penelties for not wearing a helmet, and a fucking safety campaign starts. Did he ever say that he's not going to wear a helmet? NO.

And if he did and gets himself caught for a $150 fine, that's none of our business, and if he gets himself maimed or killed, that's none of our business either, that's his free choice...

Oh hang on.... I forget, I don't live in a free country any more do I...

This country is so bent on saving people from themselves, that it's prepared to sacrifise people's freedom to do it... Hell might as well outlaw all motorcycling while we're at it...

[edit] - oh and as for your question, I believe if you get caught, you'll be funding $150 towards this country's legalised terrerism of its population but at least you won't be getting any demerit points I believe...

You sir, are a good guy. I thank you.

**marty** · 18th December 2006, 07:52

Land Transport (Offences and Penalties) Regulations 1999
Schedule 2 Scale of demerit points
Part 1 Offences other than speeding offences
Part 1
Offences other than speeding offences

Number of Demerit Points

1. The Land Transport Act 1998 31(1)(b) Drives a motor vehicle contrary to the conditions of his or her driver licence 25

37(1) Careless or inconsiderate use of motor vehicle 35

52(1)(c) Failure to stop on request or signal of an enforcement officer, or on being followed by motor vehicle displaying flashing blue, or blue and red, lights or sounding a siren, as required by section 114 of the Land Transport Act 1998 35

52(1)(c) Failure to remain stopped for an enforcement officer, as required under section 114 of the Land Transport Act 1998 35

52(1)(c) Driving or attempting to drive when forbidden by an enforcement officer under section 121 of the Land Transport Act 1998 35
57(1) or (2) Person younger than 20 driving or attempting to drive with excessive breath-alcohol or blood-alcohol concentration 50

59(1) Failure or refusal—

(a) To wait for the result of a breath screening test or an evidential breath test 50
(b) To accompany an enforcement officer when so required 50
(c) To remain for evidential breath test or blood test 50

[2 Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (61001) 2.1(1) Fail to drive as near as practicable to the left of the roadway 20

2.1(2) Fail to allow impeded traffic to pass 20

2.6(1) Unsafe passing 35

2.6(3) Impeding vehicle when passing 35

2.9 Passing to right of no-passing line 35

2.1 Passing at school crossing point or pedestrian crossing 20

2.12(3) Drive in emergency stopping lane 10

3.8(2) Fail to comply with handheld stop sign 20

4 Fail to comply with school patrol sign 20

4.1(1)(a) Driver fails to stop at stop sign 20

4.1(1)(b) Driver fails to give way at stop sign 20

4.1(2) Driver fails to give way at give-way sign 20

4.2(2) Driver of left-turning vehicle fails to give way to vehicle approaching or crossing from right 20

4.2(3) Driver at intersection fails to give-way to vehicle approaching from right 20

4 Driver fails to give way to road user on footpath when entering/exiting driveway 20

4.6(1) Driver entering roundabout fails to give way 20

5.9(1) Exceed speed for stopping distance 20

5.9(2) Exceed speed for stopping distance on road not marked in lanes 20

5.9(3) Drive too close to vehicle in front 20

7.1(2) Driver permits riding dangerously 20

[[7.4(1)]] [[Operate vehicle that creates excessive noise10

[[7.4(2)]] [[Create excessive noise within or on vehicle 10

9.1(2) Driver fails to give way to rail vehicle approaching level crossing 20

9.1(4) Drive etc, cycle, vehicle, or animal across level crossing when risk of collision with rail vehicle 20

9.2(1)(a) Fail to comply with stop sign at level crossing 20

9.2(1)(b) Fail to remain stationary at stop sign until level crossing clear 20

9.2(3) Driver enters controlled area of level crossing when red signal displayed 20

9.2(4) Driver enters controlled area of level crossing when barrier arm lowered 20

10.1(1) Driver fails to give way at pedestrian crossing 35

10.1(2) Driver enters pedestrian crossing when passage blocked 35

10.2(1) Driver of vehicle fails to give way to pedestrian on shared zone 35

**NZHog** · 18th December 2006, 11:38

LOL. I have over 8000 miles of riding safely without a helmet. I have over 100000k's riding with a helmet. It is good to have the choice & access to many great helmets,but I appreciate the great gear we have in general now.

Originally Posted by grego

Ahh, finally another fairdinkum shitslinging thread.
Don,t ye just love em?

Fact: Because it is compulsory in this loverly little country to wear a helmet, 99% of bikers that get killed on the road were wearing helmets.

Fact: Lots a geesers that regularly post here think that because they are wearing helmets, leathers boots and gloves etc etc this makes them a Rossi or Gibernau and ride like ***ing arseholes on the open road.

Fact: There are still countries where helmet wearing is NOT compulsory.

and yes, I always put on a lid, even though I have a doctors certificate that says that I should be exempt from having to put one on.

lastly: Its a great feeling to cruise down the road on a hot summers day without a stinking sweaty lid on your noggin and being able to make your own choices......

**ManDownUnder** · 18th December 2006, 11:45

Mate each to their own.... but anyone not wearing a helmet is an idiot in my opinion.

The financial risk is a $150.

**Indiana_Jones** · 18th December 2006, 11:50

Fine wise, not wearing a helmet would be like not wearing your seatbelt in your car I would imagine.

-Indy

**bert_is_evil** · 18th December 2006, 11:54

Originally Posted by bobsmith

And if he did and gets himself caught for a $150 fine, that's none of our business, and if he gets himself maimed or killed, that's none of our business either, that's his free choice...

if he get's himself maimed then it is definitely our business as we will spend the rest of OUR lives paying for his care.

Though he never said he had any intentions of riding helmetless.

**James Deuce** · 18th December 2006, 11:58

We don't live in a free country btw.

There's big chunks of the Middle East and Asia Minor that could be regarded as "free". You should try living there. I don't think you'd like it.

**Paul in NZ** · 18th December 2006, 12:07

Originally Posted by Jim2

We don't live in a free country btw.

There's big chunks of the Middle East and Asia Minor that could be regarded as "free". You should try living there. I don't think you'd like it.

True - you have to wear a different kinda helmet there too, a steel one and you need that all the time..

**Grub** · 18th December 2006, 12:12

Originally Posted by bert_is_evil

Though he never said he had any intentions of riding helmetless.

Ummm ... lookit his profile ... and the picture of him(?) doing front wheelie without helmet. I s'pose you can't get brain damage if yer brainless

**pervert** · 18th December 2006, 12:29

Originally Posted by Grub

Ummm ... lookit his profile ... and the picture of him(?) doing front wheelie without helmet. I s'pose you can't get brain damage if yer brainless

Gee well aren't you just a regular detective. How did you manage to unravel such information? Hard work I guess.

I can't believe you can call anyone brainless when you struggle to type a legible paragraph. Talk about the pot calling the water heating device black.

...and it's called a stoppie, not a front wheelie...duh...

I always wear a helmet when riding a road legal motorcycle on the road.

**sunhuntin** · 18th December 2006, 12:33

Originally Posted by lb99

:slap:

eep! (remove foot from mouth)

this was not aimed at you, rather at someone who made a pretty stupid decision many years ago, and caused a few years of insanity afterward

:slap:

didnt even read it that way. lol.

**bert_is_evil** · 18th December 2006, 13:01

Originally Posted by pervert

I always wear a helmet when riding a road legal motorcycle on the road.

But not when riding a non road legal bike on a public road?

**scumdog** · 18th December 2006, 13:06

Originally Posted by pervert

I'm sure this post will generate plenty of lectures from various people, directed at various people, about various things over which they really have no control in the end. Now that I've said that I'll get to the point.

How much does someone get taxed for not wearing a helmet when it comes to a blue/white infringement notice handed out by the filth at the side of the road?

I'm guessing it's not the same amount as a cyclist, which is $50 or $55 I believe...???

Generally you're taxed one brain.....

If you are a little lucky you only get taxed an acre or so of scalp and maybe some facial features...