Tenant vs. Landlord... who pays?

**placidfemme** · 21st December 2006, 12:21

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Dunno - but if give him a few of mine can I bring a camera to the redemption meating?

lol your an honourary (sp) lesbian anyway... you better not be giving away too many points...

**ManDownUnder** · 21st December 2006, 12:24

Originally Posted by placidfemme

lol your an honourary (sp) lesbian anyway... you better not be giving away too many points...

YEE HAA

**LilSel** · 21st December 2006, 12:35

You've already got a few points dont you PF??

**jrandom** · 21st December 2006, 12:57

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

redemption meating?

Is 'meating' what happens when lesbian reward points are redeemed, then?

**ManDownUnder** · 21st December 2006, 13:04

Originally Posted by Fish

Is 'meating' what happens when lesbian reward points are redeemed, then?

That's what I'm hoping to find out...

**crashe** · 21st December 2006, 13:08

Ok its gone past 2pm....

What is happening re the landlord.......... and paying up for the window?

Just trying to get this back on topic....

**Bartman10** · 21st December 2006, 13:09

My experience is this:

Landlords are out to screw tenants

Tenants are out to screw landlords

If I was a landlord I'd try to convince the tenant to pay, but I'm not, therefore I always try my hardest to get the landlord to pay.

Tenancy agreements won't usually go into specifics about broken windows. Windows are part of the building, therefore the landlord should pay, unless he can prove that you deliberately broke the window. The landlord has a responsibility to ensure that the building is fit to live in. If you have problems withhold rent or move out.

**The Stranger:Me** · 21st December 2006, 13:25

Originally Posted by Hitcher

A lot of people have oddly utopic views about rental properties and go all misty-eyed and clammy in odd places as they salivate at the prospect of owning residential property to rent. I, on the other hand, have worked for Housing New Zealand and have seen first-hand how the "other half" lives. I have consequently cauterised any desire I may have once had to be a landlord, believing that giving my bank account details to Mr Longo Nbongo (the nephew of the former King of Lesotho) to be an infinitely preferable form of investment.

I agree with Fish that any property owner who does not regularly visit and check what their tenants may be up to, is an idiot. Roof cavities make great places to propagate marijuana and, the ever-versatile garage (no pun intended) can be put to a range of innovative uses, such as the manufacture of P, the systematic decomponenting of motor vehicles, or housing several families of recently-arrived Somalis. While I am amongst the first to applaud entreprenuerial flair, I take a less-than-sanguine view when it may be my sorry arse that may not be collecting $200 and going directly to jail as a consequence.

Thank you Hitcher. Well I guess I am an idiot. But hey, I don't mind being an idiot who has made more from rental properties over the last 20yrs than I have made from working, using the same recipe - dumb luck. I shall continue to be an idiot for some time to come I hope.

**Hitcher** · 21st December 2006, 13:28

Stuff the broken window. I want to know how many Lesbian Reward Points are required for, say, a toaster oven. I feel an overwhelming need to calibrate. Indeed, in the immortal words of Kool & The Gang:

"Calibration, Let's all calibrate and have a good time".

**Hitcher** · 21st December 2006, 13:31

Originally Posted by CaN

Thank you Hitcher. Well I guess I am an idiot. But hey, I don't mind being an idiot who has made more from rental properties over the last 20yrs than I have made from working, using the same recipe - dumb luck. I shall continue to be an idiot for some time to come I hope.

Ah, a rich idiot. Maybe I should make an exception? And do you really not regularly visit your rental properties?

**placidfemme** · 21st December 2006, 13:41

Ok... Just spoke to the landlord... He didn't get my message I left on his work phone so had to re-explain what went on...

I felt guilty and i didn't even do anything... sucks...

Anyway... He seems to think it may be the lawn mowing guy, because apparantly he broke a window at the front of the house last year and didn't say anything...

He didn't sound impressed (dunno if that was with me or the lawn guy), but he said he would get onto this afternoon and "not to worry" because he has a spare key so we don't need to rush home...

**placidfemme** · 21st December 2006, 13:43

lol as for the lesbian reward points... LilSel is the point awards administrator... she told me that 10 points gets me a beer... and 20 points gets me a sky bungy... and 1000 points gets me a bike...

*right now I only have 27 points*

**placidfemme** · 21st December 2006, 13:49

Originally Posted by Fish

Is 'meating' what happens when lesbian reward points are redeemed, then?

Hmmm... um...

Oh look I got you something! Merry Lesbian xmas!

**The Stranger:Me** · 21st December 2006, 14:01

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Ah, a rich idiot. Maybe I should make an exception? And do you really not regularly visit your rental properties?

As previously stated. Only when necessary, i.e the tenant reports a problem, or if there has been work done (Kitchen or bathroom upgrade etc) and I want to be sure that things are right i.e. will give it a month or 2 and inspect that there are no leaks etc.

I have found it quite simple, either you have genuine mutual trust and respect or don't bloody let the place to the person in the first place. I have never once had a cross word with any of my (residential) tenants in that time and find that I have only had long term tenants, I guess as a result. Last lot was almost 6yrs and I probably visited 4 times.

I can dig that Housing NZ has different considerations but that doesn't mean everyone is going to have the same problems.

Having visited PF and Sam once or twice you can tell in an instant that they are good people, the place is clean and tidy (sorry if it looks like I am judging you PF, but hey you get impressions of people from meeting them). Were I their landlord why the hell would I want to keep an eye on them? That said, I could just imagine if MDU was, there would be inspections weekly.