Draggin Jeans or Cordura pants

**Pussy** · 1st January 2007, 18:49

I don't know how to post up old threads, but about this time last year I explained the ineffectiveness of draggin jeans. Have a look at my old posts.
In short, THEY ARE BLOODY USELESS, and above 10km/h, you may as well be wearing tights. Ask my missus, she has no left kneecap to prove it. Don't waste your money, unless you are buying them to get dragged down a runway on your arse. You have been warned

**Steam** · 1st January 2007, 18:55

Originally Posted by Pussy

about this time last year I explained the ineffectiveness of draggin jeans.

It was here. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...818#post474818

Thanks for the interesting discussion everyone, I am following it with interest.

**Mom** · 1st January 2007, 19:05

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Cordura for sure, Jeans aint warm period.
Besides I dont sell jeans !!

Note to Quasi......."investigate jeans".......I wear Cordura, cos that is all i have

they are great...sweaty in summer

but have the thermal liner thingy in winter

best of all they have massive i feel bomb proof qualities, they are also waterproof.......
Jeans are crap when wet........

Note to self.....buy some armoured jeans for summer

**Hitcher** · 1st January 2007, 20:23

I've got a pair of Draggins that have been along the highway on two occasions. They're in good order. The legs inside them are too. And that's without the added armour, which may have lessened the considerable bruising resulting from my first off.

Cordura tears really easily. I suspect it's to do with friction and it getting hot when sliding along the ground. Draggins are made of stout denim and need to snag on something to make them tear. If they do, there is a kevlar liner beneath. Mr Dupont will be very interested to hear from anybody who can get kevlar to tear -- it was made as a liner for bulletproof vests.

I prefer Draggins for summer riding as they're way more comfortable than heavy cordura.

Although I own a set of leather riding pants, I never wear them. They're too cold in winter and not waterproof when it rains. Maybe I should sell or donate them to any interested fuller-figured gent...

**Lou Girardin** · 1st January 2007, 21:16

Spidi cordura withstands 1200 cycles of the EC abrasion test,
leather has to withstand 2100 cycles by law..
But Tenax, a form of super cordura, withstands 2400 cycles.
If you want the best, buy a Spidi Step-In Road suit. It has leather and Tenax.
Draggins have no impact protection and they're uncomfortable. Shift or Teknic kevlar jeans are better.

**boomer** · 1st January 2007, 22:16

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

If you want the best, buy a Spidi Step-In Road suit. It has leather and Tenax.

..........

**Zapf** · 2nd January 2007, 00:41

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Spidi cordura withstands 1200 cycles of the EC abrasion test,
leather has to withstand 2100 cycles by law..
But Tenax, a form of super cordura, withstands 2400 cycles.
If you want the best, buy a Spidi Step-In Road suit. It has leather and Tenax.
Draggins have no impact protection and they're uncomfortable. Shift or Teknic kevlar jeans are better.

well for what is worth, I am getting a pair of draggins for road riding while wearing T-Pro armor under.

**ceebie13** · 2nd January 2007, 20:35

I wear Kevlar underpants...on the outside! It makes me superhuman so having an off isn't a problem.

Originally Posted by Jim2

....I've crashed in both and it didn't hurt as much in Cordura quite frankly.

I've never even been to Cordura.

**RC1** · 2nd January 2007, 21:04

Originally Posted by Robbo

but for me it's leathers everytime and No compromise. My skin is rather attached to my body and i intend to keep it that way.Cheers

yep same for me dont go out on the bike without them on,i have always had leathers on every bike i have had they have saved my skin more then a few times , if your worried about " looks" go to shops in the cage,it not usually a fashion parade on yuor bike it about "safety" NO COMPROMISE

**Naki** · 3rd January 2007, 19:49

Bought a pair of Spool pants today. Removed the winter liner and then went for a 1 hour ride and found them very good, comfortable and a resonable fit. Also had a look at a pair of shift jeans. Similar Kevlar to Draggins, but cheaper.

Cheers.

**wilber** · 3rd January 2007, 20:23

I find the draggins good ,better in summer no over trou to carry about may not have the best protection and yes you get hot and sticky in them in summer walking about but riding no problem .

**NordieBoy** · 3rd January 2007, 21:07

Draggins for day-to-day riding which totals at least 5 hours a week.
Nice and comfortable and I feel more protected in them than cordura unless I've got MX kneepads on as well.
Winter is cordura with winter liners and kneepads.

**Fat Tony** · 3rd January 2007, 21:45

Question... do any of the products you're looking at zip to your jacket? Personally I wouldn't wear jeans+jacket that didn't zip together. All personal choice though.

**wilber** · 3rd January 2007, 21:57

Nothing to stop you putting a zip on any trou ,draggins or cordura both have good points,is still better than shorts and normal trousers you see some people wearing.

**beyond** · 4th January 2007, 10:25

Originally Posted by Fat Tony

Question... do any of the products you're looking at zip to your jacket? Personally I wouldn't wear jeans+jacket that didn't zip together. All personal choice though.

Totally agree here and a very good point. Sliding down the road feet first will have your spine grinding away on the chip as soon as the jacket peels back

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