Graeme William Burton in custody

[doc]

Isn't it great having a Democracy.
Now the police have to prove it was him cos he is innocent until "beyond resonable doubt"
Legal aid I guess
He will probably never be released.
Our cost I guess

I'm only basing all this on the fact the media did get it right. They were probably hard on heels of the poor coppers with live cam stuff which is probably why the copper couldn't get a second shot in. Maybe it was the coppers fault because he will now be under investigation that he did everything right.

[spudchucka]

One has to ask how poor the officers shooting is since you are trained to shoot at CoM are you not?

Yes we are.

Maybe he was break dancing at the time, doing a headspin or something cool like that.

[Lou Girardin]

Isn't it great having a Democracy.
Now the police have to prove it was him cos he is innocent until "beyond resonable doubt"

You'd prefer 'guilty because a cop says so'?

[doc]

You'd prefer 'guilty because a cop says so'?

Hell yes in this case he Burton was basically caught in the act, prior history blah blah etc etc. You have to allow the copper on the scene to use his insticts. I would have considered this a "shoot to kill" situation , but we are only talking about after the case sort of like reality TV easy to judge from the comfort of the keyboard and only having the info the media has fed us, Basically there are times you have to allow the coppers the use of "Ultimate force" They guy had killed one person in his life time shouldn't have been allowed a second chance and had that made aware to him on his release, fuck up again and we shoot to kill . Well thats how I feel about it I may be wrong but I don't support any leniency in this case.

[Lou Girardin]

Hell yes in this case he Burton was basically caught in the act, prior history blah blah etc etc. You have to allow the copper on the scene to use his insticts. I would have considered this a "shoot to kill" situation , but we are only talking about after the case sort of like reality TV easy to judge from the comfort of the keyboard and only having the info the media has fed us, Basically there are times you have to allow the coppers the use of "Ultimate force" They guy had killed one person in his life time shouldn't have been allow a second chance and had that made aware to him on his release, fuck up again and we shoot to kill . Well thats how I feel about it I may be wrong but I don't support any leniency in this case.

I fail to see what you are complaining about. The cop shot him and I'm damn sure he didn't aim for his leg. Sheer luck for Mr Scumbag.
As for allowing cops to inflict a death sentence at their discretion, I'm sure you will find several countries where this happens to be more to your liking.

[doc]

I fail to see what you are complaining about. The cop shot him and I'm damn sure he didn't aim for his leg. Sheer luck for Mr Scumbag.
As for allowing cops to inflict a death sentence at their discretion, I'm sure you will find several countries where this happens to be more to your liking.

I'm basically disappointed that there wasn't another shot. How many did they use on Wallace in Waitara and he was only breaking windows

[onearmedbandit]

You'd prefer 'guilty because a cop says so'?

It's what happens when we get identified as speeding even though there may be reason for doubt (other traffic etc).

[Hitcher]

How many did they use on Wallace in Waitara and he was only breaking windows

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Constable X feared for his life and fired in self-defence. Burton's case sounds a bit like "attempted-suicide by Police bullet".

[Lou Girardin]

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Constable X feared for his life and fired in self-defence.

Sure he did. All THREE cops feared for their lives.

[RT527]

I sometimes wish there really was a God who burned people for all eternity, but I don't believe that sadly.
So what's the solution?

Longer sentences...?
Therapy for prisoners...?
Thousands more police and more power for them...?
Compulsory parenting classes...?
The death penalty...?
Sharia law...?
Religion in schools...?

I got an Idea....The Parole Board people should be Held responsible for anyone they let go early..Sought of like a Bond...If the parolee gets let out early and Fucks up then any costs associated with his re-offending or Re-Capture should be placed squarely on the shoulders of those who let him/her out....

Bet we wouldnt see very many let out then???!!!.

This guys re-offending would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Police man hours,ambulance(victims), costs of hospital for victims,therapy, funeral for deceased, it goes on.

If he sees the light of day again someone should pay.

[MD]

I've said this before but each time this happens nothing ever happens to the incompetent parole board. They are not identified and made to answer for their, unbelievable at times, incompetence. They know their decisions directly endanger the public so they should be held accountable. If a doctor scews up they face serious repercusions and public naming & shaming.
This case sounds like another example of the Parole Board aiding and abetting a known criminal. Such incompetence would not be tolerated in other jobs. I wish the Police could lay charges against these dickheads who decided he was just fine and dandy and deserved to be let loose on us.
Just how a big a neon sign do they need screaming out that his past actions prove he is a totally out of control murderous creep.
EDit- now I see RT527 just beat me to it above

[RT527]

Should've been a chest or head shot. You could almost be 100% certain there would've been no crying over that. Now we pay for his hospital treatment, his trial, and his sky tv and underfloor heating for the rest of his life. Fucking scum does not deserve to breath the same air I do. If he was a dog, he'd be put down. But he's lower than a dog, so we keep him alive. Fucked up imo.

The cop would have been aiming for Centre of mass Ie chest area.

The fact that he hit him at all is amazing given how small the bullet is and the propensity for the bullet to leave the barrel any way but dead straight.
Glocks are good weapons but are very unforgiving the faster you fire ...as are all weapons due to lack of heat dissapation the barrels of rifles are worse.

he should have been aiming around about, just behind his left ear....from around 5 feet then he might have hit him in the chest...or the bullet left the barrel dead straight and no more mr burton!!!.

[Skyryder]

There needs to be a sentencing option for judges like they have in America.

LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. That gives the best of both options. If there is a miscarriage of jusatice at least some semblance of compensation can occur, and life without parole is just as effective for keeping some of these @#%&* (there 'aint' no word for this fucker) out of society.

No one has said what leg this @#%&* has been hit. Just hope it's the middle one and hope the surgeons have gone on holiday.

Skyryder

[sAsLEX]

No one has said what leg this @#%&* has been hit. Just hope it's the middle one and hope the surgeons have gone on holiday.

Skyryder

Well they must of since its taken a day to get to surgery.... not that I am complaining about him suffering a bit more!

[riffer]

There needs to be a sentencing option for judges like they have in America.

LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE.

One can only hope and pray that when and if he eventually is found guilty of murder, as well as a raft of other charges, that the judge uses common sense and awards the highest possible sentence that he can in this country - preventive detention.

Killing him won't bring Paul back.