Top 25 most influential heavy metal albums of all time

**Bytor** · 26th January 2007, 09:25

WTF what about AC-DC, Kiss, UFO, Rush and ah yes as someone mentioned Diamondhead - where would I be without 'Am I Evil'.

80% of those bands would be nowhere without the influence of the above bands. Hell even Sir Ted Nugent has a lot to answer for...

**Lias** · 26th January 2007, 09:29

Originally Posted by riffer

Don't agree. Just because you don't like the music doesn't mean the performers have no talent.

I didnt say that, I said musical talent :-)

Most of that genre consists of lyrics overlaid on a synthesised beat, and most of the time that artist doesnt actually create the beat(the producres do). Very few of them actually play instruments, so how can they possibly be described as having musical talent?

**Bytor** · 26th January 2007, 09:29

and what about Metallica - 'Metallica', aaaarggghh people who don't know SFA about music

**riffer** · 26th January 2007, 09:35

Originally Posted by Lias

I didnt say that, I said musical talent :-)

Most of that genre consists of lyrics overlaid on a synthesised beat, and most of the time that artist doesnt actually create the beat(the producres do). Very few of them actually play instruments, so how can they possibly be described as having musical talent?

Ever tried to use a sequencer? It requires a lot more than just the ability to push a button. Music is about more than being able to play an instrument.

It could be argued that rap vocalisations require a particular ability in poetic and rhythmic syncopation which the average person would struggle with.

Again, it's not my thing - but I am amazed at the ability of some of these people. Of course some of them are just bad. But the majority of them actually do have some musical talent. It's just at a different level to instrumental talent. More of a choreographic/arranging/compositional level.

Just my $0.02

Originally Posted by Bytor

and what about Metallica - 'Metallica', aaaarggghh people who don't know SFA about music

puh-lease. When you can compose something better than Master of Puppets let me know. I'll be the first to line up and buy it.

And Indy - fuck off with your Kenny Loggins.

**outlawtorn** · 26th January 2007, 09:38

Originally Posted by Bytor

and what about Metallica - 'Metallica', aaaarggghh people who don't know SFA about music

The black album was not influencial, just well received at the time, there are some brilliant tracks on it, but it's nothing compared to Master Of Puppets.

**Bytor** · 26th January 2007, 09:51

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

The black album was not influencial, just well received at the time, there are some brilliant tracks on it, but it's nothing compared to Master Of Puppets.

OK then if it's 'influential' then you really have to start going back to the fore fathers of metal - Deep Purple 'Machinehead'. Or Led Zep and Uriah Heep...

And describe 'influential'? Do they mean influential to the likes of the grunge movement or brit pop bands like Oasis

**98tls** · 26th January 2007, 10:02

Damn i must be getting old....when i think of heavy metal i think Led Zepplin....and would assume stairway to heaven influenced a few.........

**James Deuce** · 26th January 2007, 10:08

Stairway to Heaven has certainly influenced some fairly choice invective on my part, along with the bile I direct at those fools shallow enough to believe that the Smoke on the Water riff is strummed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_on_the_Water

**outlawtorn** · 26th January 2007, 10:09

Originally Posted by Bytor

OK then if it's 'influential' then you really have to start going back to the fore fathers of metal - Deep Purple 'Machinehead'. Or Led Zep and Uriah Heep...

And describe 'influential'? Do they mean influential to the likes of the grunge movement or brit pop bands like Oasis

I reckon we have to put ourselves in the shoes of the younger kids today who are starting bands and listening to music from the past 20-25 years, the list isn't relative to some older people, like myself for examplem I would have some other bands in there and some out, but the list is of bands who are influential to the current generation of 'band-starters'.

BTW I don't see Uriah Heep, Deep Purple or Led Zep as fore-fathers of metal, just very good rock bands, Black Sabbath were the fore-fathers of heavy metal. Period. You ask every musician on the list who started heavy metal and they'll tell you Black Sabbath.

**MisterD** · 26th January 2007, 10:12

Originally Posted by 98tls

and would assume stairway to heaven influenced a few.........

Certainly influenced me to

they wrote so much better than that...

aaaand another thing..Thin Lizzy! Jailbreak has to be a top tenner surely?

**Hitcher** · 26th January 2007, 10:16

Originally Posted by Jim2

[LEFT]the Smoke on the Water riff is strummed.

So the banjo players in Eltham were doing it right!

**Bytor** · 26th January 2007, 10:26

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

BTW I don't see Uriah Heep, Deep Purple or Led Zep as fore-fathers of metal, just very good rock bands, Black Sabbath were the fore-fathers of heavy metal. Period. You ask every musician on the list who started heavy metal and they'll tell you Black Sabbath.

Uriah Heep, Deep Purple, Led Zep even Bad Company created 'hard rock' which became renamed 'heavy metal' with Black Sabbath. So agreed Sabbath were the first heavy metal labelled band, but the others were just as influential to the creation of metal.
Heavy Metal (personally) only really took off the late 70's with the likes of Van Halen, Riot, Kiss, AC-DC, Scorps, Motorhead, Saxon (don't laugh!), Iron Maiden and the Priest.