Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
I ride the dirt, I ride the tide
I search the outside, search inside
I know I'll always burn to be
Remind me of what left this outlaw torn
~ The Outlaw Torn (Metallica: Load 1996)
You're probably right, death metal is perhaps the crap I'm thinking of!
Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
Rammstien started as industrial rock, more techno stuff than pure metal. They've only lately come over to the darker side.
Funny thing about that song, I played it for some of the 'Older' folks down here and they didn't have a clue what it was. I'm only 23 and I know that as good rock.
Sever
Now and forever
you're just another lost soul about to be mine again
see her, you'll never free her
you must surrender it all
And give life to me again
Disturbed - Inside the Fire
The couriers on his way over with a saucer of milk. Can you accept delivery?
By the way, I do realise we're wasting our time discussing something that, y'know, doesn't actually matter.
A very restrained reply to my ranty post. I raise my fist in salute to you, complete with studded leather wristband.
You and me are just going to have to agree to disagree on this.
Yes, they had good production. It's a pity nearly all the songs were shit. Best production in the world isn't going to compensate for that. The production on 'puppets' and 'justice' was awful. But the songs kicked arse.
I didn't buy 'black' back in '91 thinking 'i've paid for this so I'm going to hate it', I bought it thinking " 'enter sandman' wasn't great, but I bet this album kicks arse". I was sorely disappointed.
I've got all the time in the world for Lars and Kirk (and Jason, come to that). I also think Rob Trujillo is one of the best bassists in the world, full stop.
However, I think Hetfield lost something in the bottom of a bottle a few years back, and didn't regain it when he dried out. When I watched 'monster', I thought the INSTRUMENTAL stuff rocked as hard as it ever did. Hetfield looked like a stumbling old man trying too hard to remember what he used to be.
As Dover pointed out in another thread, middle-aged men shouldn't do angry metal, it doesn't suit them. Hetfields gone well past the point of no return.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
Eat lead!!! Hard rock is what high school girls listen to under the naive delusion that it will make them seem egdy, and give them street cred.
Metal is what the rest of us listen to because we love the music and revel in the catharsis of the mosh pit - real or imagined.
Bottom line, when attempting to differentiate between rock and metal, simply ask yourself "Is this band/music sexy?"
If it's sexy it's rock, if its ugly it's metal.
Simple example:
Guns 'n Roses, often billed as metal during the '80s and '90s but far to sexy to be metal therefore are (were) rock.
Godsmack, bordering on being metal but still too sexy.
Slayer, well nuff said really.
Pantera, likewise.
Last edited by SlashWylde; 26th January 2007 at 18:13. Reason: Edited for clarification and inclusion of vituperative abuse.
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