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[COP_B8]

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Originally Posted by COP_B8
As a University student I am continually fighting to get through to limited entry courses which are restricted in entry to ensure only those capable of performing at a high standard are submitted through, last year this was a B+ average mark......unless you are fortunate enough to have a portion of maori in you in which case you can fall into the 10% of students that are automatically submitted through. One of my friends basically put no effort in and said that he did not need to as he could get through under this entry.
If this is not segregation I dont know what is, not only that but if joe public sought the services of a professional (lawyer, doctor etc...) surely they would want to know that they are seeing someone that worked hard to get there and know what they are doing. not someone that scraped through on 50% passes......

Glad to hear you're getting through. I'm suprised that this is still happening, but I admit to a bias and agreement with this for the reason I outlined above. It is harder for Maori to compete. People that rort this are taking the piss and aren't doing others any favours. He's lucky your still his friend. I don't know what qualification you are working toward but in my trade (mental health) there is evidence that Maori achieve better outcomes when matched with a Maori professional. I didn't get in under a quota but the idea has appeal for me.

Law;

Straight off the Vic website:
· A supplementary admission process is also run to assess tangata whenua students for entry into second year law courses if they would not otherwise be considered. 10% of available places in each second year course are reserved for Maori students applying under the Maori Admissions Process.

Sorry, I struggle to believe how Maori have a hard time competing in University? do you mind explaining how they would find it any harder than an asian, a european, a mature student, someone who has just moved towns to study........

[elle-f]

Good on you but are you paying enough to support the rest of your clan. User pays you know. Why the fcuk do dole bluggers pay tax ?

i dunno - are you paying enough to support your side of the clan? I guess it's relative! I heard that people on the dole pay tax and i have no idea why they do either. Seems odd to me that they are just giving back what they are getting for free anyhow.

[elle-f]

You kn ow what I jus t got bak frim thes sevens and tehre's nno bullshit jusst kiwis. 7's ropck11 EVERYbosdy having a good tine tahts all jusy god times

yep, i had an AWESOME two days! Glad you enjoyed! And you are right - nobody cares who is who unless you are an Australian team HAHA

[doc]

i dunno - are you paying enough to support your side of the clan? I guess it's relative! I heard that people on the dole pay tax and i have no idea why they do either. Seems odd to me that they are just giving back what they are getting for free anyhow.

Yep I'm paying more than my share why should my girls get no student allowance because wev'e been frugal which brings us back to the poverty level of those that do get the allowance (Probably proping up Finn) So he can get a refund but I haven't got enough energy at the end of it to make a stand not like some of them who don't have anything to do except protest at what they could have had if you get my drift.

[elle-f]

Yep I'm paying more than my share why should my girls get no student allowance because wev'e been frugal which brings us back to the poverty level of those that do get the allowance (Probably proping up Finn) So he can get a refund but I haven't got enough energy at the end of it to make a stand not like some of them who don't have anything to do except protest at what they could have had if you get my drift.

Doc not really sorry. I tried to make some sense of what you said though. I THINK you are saying that those who dont work seem to get everything? Think about it - why would somebody WANT the dole in the first place? Hell, most of us earn more than what they get in a week, in a day. Living frugal for your daughters is something that your family has decided to do in order for your girls to better themselves with education. Good on you. That's exactly what I would do as well if I was in that situation. Some who don't do that might not be able to afford that. Those that don't even think about the future of their children really aren't teaching them much at all so, in the long run, your girls will be better off and I for one, applaud you for that.

[doc]

Doc not really sorry. I tried to make some sense of what you said though. I THINK you are saying that those who dont work seem to get everything? Think about it - why would somebody WANT the dole in the first place? Hell, most of us earn more than what they get in a week, in a day. Living frugal for your daughters is something that your family has decided to do in order for your girls to better themselves with education. Good on you. That's exactly what I would do as well if I was in that situation. Some who don't do that might not be able to afford that. Those that don't even think about the future of their children really aren't teaching them much at all so, in the long run, your girls will be better off and I for one, applaud you for that.

Seems like I'm being patronised, sort of what we all do aye

[elle-f]

Doc, no way am I patronising you. I wouldnt do that. What I was trying to convey was that what you are doing is a great thing. I teach and I see so many children who really don't have a positive future because of the things you first spoke about. Their parent/s are busy complaining about lack of money yet are boozing and drugging it all up and the kids are left with ZILCH to the point that the school has to feed them. That totally bugs me and makes me wanna get those parents and bloody well ..........well, you probably know what I am gonna say!!

It probably is hard to look around when you are struggling and see those that are doing nothing but getting hand-outs for doing nothing. It pisses everybody off truth be known. I wouldn't also say that all people on the dole or DPB are bludgers because some are there because of situations that really aren't of their own making. The ones that use it to get a foot up and then are off again into the world are the ones that use it for what it was originally intended.

Anyhow, I am way off topic

Ya know, Colapop was right - at the 7s nobody cares what culture or what country you are from. We are all Kiwi and if we are not we are in Kiwiland and it's an amazing feeling to be part of that without anybody putting anybody in any kind of "basket".

[98tls]

In the words of a real estate agent: Know them before you judge them.

Who the Fark is them...........jesus its 2007..........we all live here and have the right to call ourselves kiwis..........thats basically the only right we have....the rest you have to earn...................culture/tradition is all good and something we all have............lets keep it, shut the fuck up about it and move on to save what we have left of this once great country.........

[Lissa]

Doc, no way am I patronising you. I wouldnt do that. What I was trying to convey was that what you are doing is a great thing. I teach and I see so many children who really don't have a positive future because of the things you first spoke about. Their parent/s are busy complaining about lack of money yet are boozing and drugging it all up and the kids are left with ZILCH to the point that the school has to feed them. That totally bugs me and makes me wanna get those parents and bloody well ..........well, you probably know what I am gonna say!!

It probably is hard to look around when you are struggling and see those that are doing nothing but getting hand-outs for doing nothing. It pisses everybody off truth be known. I wouldn't also say that all people on the dole or DPB are bludgers because some are there because of situations that really aren't of their own making. The ones that use it to get a foot up and then are off again into the world are the ones that use it for what it was originally intended.

Anyhow, I am way off topic

Ya know, Colapop was right - at the 7s nobody cares what culture or what country you are from. We are all Kiwi and if we are not we are in Kiwiland and it's an amazing feeling to be part of that without anybody putting anybody in any kind of "basket".

Good on you elle... I have been keeping out of this thread, cause I thought it was a little 'stereotyping'.

Elle.. you are a friggin AWESOME teacher.. wish you were mine when I was growing up... hehe you prob old enough to have been .. just joking!!

Anyway had too much to drink... might go watch some rugby!

[Colapop]

yep, i had an AWESOME two days! Glad you enjoyed! And you are right - nobody cares who is who unless you are an Australian team HAHA

Shit Ellle I Lookwed for you buty I could not find you. ShitHJOT weekend! wOO HOOO

[mstriumph]

What are you talking about............they had clay and stuff just check out the cave paintings

textiles, duck ----- woven fabric ........ as in shirts, or skirts .......

or flags

[elle-f]

Shit Ellle I Lookwed for you buty I could not find you. ShitHJOT weekend! wOO HOOO

We were waving our poi around constantly HAHA.

[Lissa]

Shit Ellle I Lookwed for you buty I could not find you. ShitHJOT weekend! wOO HOOO

Wow... your spelling is really bad!!!

[Colapop]

Nice on tghe big screem

[elle-f]

Lissa, I think possibly our Colapop was popping a bit too much booze over the past couple of days I get what he means though because most people there were talking like that at the end HAHA