Ahmed Zaoui: Residency or deportation?

**Dafe** · 9th February 2007, 23:53

Ahmed Zaoui arrived into New Zealand in 2002 seeking refugee status.
He has not yet been granted residency
Do you think Ahmed Zaoui should be granted residency so he can finally see his family or should he be deported?

**Jantar** · 10th February 2007, 00:01

As I understand it, he arrived here illegally. That should mean instant deportation.

By arriving illegally, I mean that he arrived here without any valid form of identification, yet he had such identification when he boarded the aircraft to come here. He passed through many other countries before arriving here, and he could have applied for refugee status at any of them. But, no, he waited until he arrived here. So it wasn't simply that he wished to seek refuge, but that he wished to live in NZ and bypass our normal immigration system.

**Dafe** · 10th February 2007, 00:15

Originally Posted by Jantar

As I understand it, he arrived here illegally. That should mean instant deportation.

By arriving illegally, I mean that he arrived here without any valid form of identification, yet he had such identification when he boarded the aircraft to come here. He passed through many other countries before arriving here, and he could have applied for refugee status at any of them. But, no, he waited until he arrived here. So it wasn't simply that he wished to seek refuge, but that he wished to live in NZ and bypass our normal immigration system.

Yes he arrived here illegally, carrying false papers and instantly claiming asylum.

he never had a choice of country because no other countries would accept his claim for asylum, only NZ would.
He has been booted from Switzerland, Belgium, France, Sudan, Pakistan, Ethiopia. the only country pathetic enough to take him in, is NZ. I wish this country would advance enough to mould some of our policies around Ethiopias common-sense policies.

**Deviant Esq** · 10th February 2007, 00:19

Carrying false papers and no other country would take him? If in doubt, boot 'im out. Sorry, stiff shit.

**JimO** · 10th February 2007, 06:00

there is nothing stopping him seeing his family, he just needs to go where they are

**Colapop** · 10th February 2007, 06:25

The thing is that, if he is subject to a risk certificate (WTF?? Can't be good) then there must be something wrong. Send him to Bolivia.

**Clockwork** · 10th February 2007, 06:37

Without papers I doubt that there is anywhere else he can go except Algeria, and I can understand why he wouldn't want to go there.

**Grahameeboy** · 10th February 2007, 07:06

He has been here since 2002 so surely he qualifies for residency now............but serious why does it take so long to not make a decision..........let him stay now...............

**paturoa** · 10th February 2007, 07:20

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

He has been here since 2002 so surely he qualifies for residency now............but serious why does it take so long to not make a decision..........let him stay now...............

So because he's been here illegaly for 5 years, cos the system is farked to stop queue jumpers, he should be able to stay? I just don't get that.

His family is living somewhere, his first priority should be to go there and support them.

**Nasty** · 10th February 2007, 07:21

Really an incredibly hard question .. as we have seen with this being played out in the national papers/news .... I don't think that it is as simple as a security certificate ... or just giving him residency ... I think there are many things that have not been said to or by the press ... and that there is a pile of other issues that need to be played out before the decision can be made .. I just hate the way that our system works in slowly decreasing circles!!

**Grahameeboy** · 10th February 2007, 07:23

Originally Posted by paturoa

So because he's been here illegaly for 5 years, cos the system is farked to stop queue jumpers, he should be able to stay? I just don't get that.

His family is living somewhere, his first priority should be to go there and support them.

Where is his family? Thought they were here for some odd reason

**Karma** · 10th February 2007, 07:28

Illegal immigrants? Try living in the UK, spend a few days at a Channel Tunnell terminal or down by the ferry terminals down in Dover and you'll see illegal immigrants.

**avgas** · 10th February 2007, 07:39

the whole refugee status thing is NZ is bullshit. My mate got hit by stupid bitch who had refugee status in NZ. Why was she fucken even driving

. By the time it got to court - she had skipped to Australia and they could do jack about it. His bike was a write-off, and the car wasn't hers (as she didn't have NZ driving license. He wouldn't tell me the contact details of the bitch - so i couldn't sort it out for him.

**Fat Tony** · 10th February 2007, 07:44

Originally Posted by Weasel

Illegal immigrants? Try living in the UK, spend a few days at a Channel Tunnell terminal or down by the ferry terminals down in Dover and you'll see illegal immigrants.

I recently read a report saying that the UK hotel/catering industry would grind to a halt if all illegal immigrants were deported. It's one big f***ing mess for sure.

I've not voted in the poll as I don't know much about the case... but isn't it incredible that illegal immigrants often can't speak the language of the country that they're claiming asylum in, yet they fully understand how to play the system?