I know what caused my accident on 2nd December

[TonyB]

Glad you found the cause! That must have taken a load off your mind

I had a Scottoiler on my FZR, and quite frankly the back wheel was cleaner than I ever had on any bike using any other form of chain lubrication. If you just use oil or spray on lube most of it gets flung off in a short distance. As long as a Scottoiler is set right I'm sure they are the best option. Most people reckon they're doing well to get 30,000K out of chain- I did 25,000+ before I sold it, and I asjusted the chain for the first time shortly before I sold it. Thats a 530 o-ring on a 235kg (wet) bike with 125-130hp at the wheel.

[DUCATI*HARD]

like they say,you learn from your mistakes

[Steam]

Move to Amerika and SUE!

[RiderInBlack]

Most people reckon they're doing well to get 30,000K out of chain.

Last chain did 21,000miles (33,600Km). Only replaced it as it was just showing signs of wear and I had the Grand Challenge to do (I get fussy for that and replace any thing looking even a bit dodgy before it). The one that is on now is @ 14,000miles (22,400km) and no adjusting need yet. Both of these have just got good old chain maintenance (no oiler). I wipe of the excess lube after lubing my chain and clean off any lube found on my tyre after lubing. I've had a Scott Oiler and have not had much advantage over proper chain maintenance from it.

[TonyB]

Fair enough. Actually thats pretty impressive. I found with the scottoiler the chain stayed clean and well adjusted, and never had to be maintained in any way. As I barely had time to ride that suited me well.

[Zapf]

Good to hear you found the cause Beyond

Personally, I have had an oiler on every bike I owned. And I do keep an eye on the oil flow as I know how much it is affected by air temp. Also by your right hand, as the oiler works off the vacume pressure. The harder you ride the more oil will flow. So if you change your riding style, e.g going from riding easy around town to giving it a bit over the back country roads. The oil flow will increase, in which case you should adjust the oiler accordingly.

Zapf out.

[mangell6]

There are two types of oil for the scottoiler, basically warm areas below 20, and hot areas above 20. Makes a big difference to the oil flow.

[sAsLEX]

Good to hear you found the cause Beyond

Personally, I have had an oiler on every bike I owned. And I do keep an eye on the oil flow as I know how much it is affected by air temp. Also by your right hand, as the oiler works off the vacume pressure. The harder you ride the more oil will flow. So if you change your riding style, e.g going from riding easy around town to giving it a bit over the back country roads. The oil flow will increase, in which case you should adjust the oiler accordingly.

Zapf out.

Thats why they aren't that great and one running off its own circuit would be better, pixie made one for himself I think...

[Zapf]

Thats why they aren't that great and one running off its own circuit would be better, pixie made one for himself I think...

u recon? you'll still have issue with oil flow change. Also if your motor is working harder then you are most likely riding faster. Hence chain spinning faster and should also be oiled more. The real problem is how the oil flow changes in relation with temp.

[sAsLEX]

u recon? you'll still have issue with oil flow change. Also if your motor is working harder then you are most likely riding faster. Hence chain spinning faster and should also be oiled more. The real problem is how the oil flow changes in relation with temp.

I would have a temp sensor, a flow sensor a wheel speed/speed sensor and hook into a simple Mega 8 or other micro and whammo all your problems solved. Next Problem?

[NordieBoy]

Also by your right hand, as the oiler works off the vacume pressure. The harder you ride the more oil will flow. So if you change your riding style, e.g going from riding easy around town to giving it a bit over the back country roads. The oil flow will increase, in which case you should adjust the oiler accordingly.

Zapf out.

Nope.
The vacuum just opens the valve.
It has nothing to do with the amount of the flow, the oil is siphoning out.
Temperature is the only thing that affects the flow.

Some bikes keep a bit of vacuum applied even when off - oil on floor/wheel etc.

[Lou Girardin]

Were there streaks of oil on the tyre sidewall? That's the giveaway.
A Pixie oiler can't have the settings altered just by bumping it.
A much better design than the Scott. PM him.

[Kornholio]

Being an eye witness to that particular bin it was so unusual that you went down...we werent even going that fast... Good to see you have sorted out the problem and rectified it... Personally I oil it regularly myself and that is sufficient

See ya soon Paul on the road somewhere

[justsomeguy]

Glad you found out what happened...

You didn't even have your pegs down before the bike just seemed to start to slide and you went for your tumble.

Any oil at that point must have rubbed off while you slid, perhaps that's why we didn't see anything when we tried looking for it.

[justsomeguy]

Being an eye witness to that particular bin it was so unusual that you went down...we werent even going that fast... Good to see you have sorted out the problem and rectified it... Personally I oil it regularly myself and that is sufficient

See ya soon Paul on the road somewhere

On the bright side - if there is such a thing- thank God he didn't chuck it about 5 minutes before stopping at the turn off - where the speeds were more "Beyond like".