ZX7R Vs ZX10R

**Gremlin** · 13th January 2007, 17:12

Originally Posted by -df-

One thing that still annoys me about the 7R is its wheelie ability...either I just can't crack the bike, or I suck...thing is I can wheelie my mrs rgv150 a hell of a lot better then the 7r...which is just weird...

for the 7, it does depend on a few factors, it ain't no 160hp 170kg bike. Power of the bike, gearing etc, makes more of a diff to it. Don't forget it has a lot of weight over the front, which makes it so awesome through the corners (2up, right up behind a 600

)

I can get little wheelies in first off the line, but using the extra power near the top of first gear, nothing major... don't really want to, either. It also has stock gearing, and a slight change would yield some results.

**Damon** · 15th January 2007, 08:08

sorry for the delay, here's those PDF's

**Lazy7** · 15th January 2007, 11:12

I dont think your going to get a new litre toy bike thats going to feel as "planted" or as "stable" as the 7R cause they weigh nothing and have shit load too much power these days.

to be honest though - i remember reading a bunch of reviews on the 04 zx10 and the editors of the magazines shitting themselves saying it was one of the scariest bikes they had ridden in terms of 'biting' the rider if they got something slightly wrong.

7R has never really scared me. my first 'big' bike and i am still quite happy with it. It could be a bit more comfortable but it will never look better.

**ams67** · 1st February 2007, 22:34

Well, the ZX10-06/07 is a totally different riding experience.
It's improved a lot, starting with a good steering dumper in place (finally).
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/ZX10R/ZX10R.asp

**Back Fire** · 1st February 2007, 23:02

Originally Posted by ams67

Well, the ZX10-06/07 is a totally different riding experience.
It's improved a lot, starting with a good steering dumper in place (finally).
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/ZX10R/ZX10R.asp

good is debateable... even set at max it's softer than ice cream... yes it's Ohlins but my god its not Ohlins... have a Ohlins damper on a SV1000 and jeez the diff between that one (which I consider REAL ohlins) and the damper on the 10r is a joke... couple a clicks and its nice and firm, go all the way out and you can barely turn the bars... but... I guess something is better than nothing

**N4CR** · 1st February 2007, 23:29

Originally Posted by ams67

well, the zx10-06/07 is a totally different riding experience.
it's improved a lot, starting with a good steering dumper in place (finally).
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/zx10r/zx10r.asp

it doesn't need the damper, nor does the damper on it do much as you said. put it back down over 200kmh and it's fine. keep the pressures set and susp tuned up and slappers are fine if you get one, mainly with pillions for me (lofty front wheel haha wheelie ballast).

**speed63** · 2nd February 2007, 09:58

Originally Posted by N4CR

it doesn't need the damper, nor does the damper on it do much as you said. put it back down over 200kmh and it's fine. keep the pressures set and susp tuned up and slappers are fine if you get one, mainly with pillions for me (lofty front wheel haha wheelie ballast).

agree. the media/journos had to find something to pick on! If properly set up no headshake

**ams67** · 2nd February 2007, 10:14

Uhmm, the ZX10 Ohlins works pretty well for me. However, the difference between the 2004 and 2006 model is not only the additional steering dumper. The 2006 model is a different bike. The handling is great and also the engine is more smooth. I tested the ZX10 2004 after my bad experience with the CBR1000R. Compared to the CBR the ZX10 required a lot of work to keep it on the right track.
Then I bought the RSV1000 Aprilia. It was great. Handling and breaking made it as a 'dream come true'. Unfortunatelly good things don't last for long. So my dear Italian bike started to have the usual problem, as most of Italian bikes: electrical/electronic issues. Bloody Italians (by the way I am Italian)
The Aprilia distributor in NZ is particulary crap. The said that it would take several weeks to get the part that translated in a more realistic language, it means several months. So, thanks to the bike dealer, i was able to get a brand new ZX10.
Finger crossed it is a great bike...

**speed63** · 2nd February 2007, 12:05

Originally Posted by ams67

Uhmm, the ZX10 Ohlins works pretty well for me. However, the difference between the 2004 and 2006 model is not only the additional steering dumper. The 2006 model is a different bike. The handling is great and also the engine is more smooth. I tested the ZX10 2004 after my bad experience with the CBR1000R. Compared to the CBR the ZX10 required a lot of work to keep it on the right track.
Then I bought the RSV1000 Aprilia. It was great. Handling and breaking made it as a 'dream come true'. Unfortunatelly good things don't last for long. So my dear Italian bike started to have the usual problem, as most of Italian bikes: electrical/electronic issues. Bloody Italians (by the way I am Italian)
The Aprilia distributor in NZ is particulary crap. The said that it would take several weeks to get the part that translated in a more realistic language, it means several months. So, thanks to the bike dealer, i was able to get a brand new ZX10.
Finger crossed it is a great bike...

congratulations on the new bike, am sure you will love it, the 06 is definately softer than the 04/05 model

**Madmax** · 3rd February 2007, 17:54

Originally Posted by N4CR

bone stock vs modded 10 no comparo....

My one is blue printed has a micron can,power commander,
Bloody thing picked up about 10 hp from the blue printing alone.
Have never put a steering damper on.
(Mind you i do have an old H1 tripple as well, they do need a
damper)

**Clivoris** · 3rd February 2007, 19:23

Originally Posted by Madmax

My one is blue printed has a micron can,power commander,
Bloody thing picked up about 10 hp from the blue printing alone.
Have never put a steering damper on.
(Mind you i do have an old H1 tripple as well, they do need a
damper)

Dude. If I may be so bold, what did it cost to blueprint your engine?

**aussieinauckland** · 3rd February 2007, 22:13

have rode the 06 zx10 and fark me are they a machine , just pure power , ate took out the redarders and shit does she go , it's just all power but they shake like shit , if you took the dampner off you could not ride it ,

but hey that's what's it's all about , take one for a ride

**Madmax** · 17th February 2007, 21:09

Originally Posted by Clivoris

Dude. If I may be so bold, what did it cost to blueprint your engine?

Kawasaki did the bottom end
(mine was one of the first ones and had an assembly fault,
they put the wrong bearings in) i had the top end done state side.
There is not that much you can do with the top end!..
Cost? too much..
(problems now include
it eats chains, tires ETC,)
I thought i would put a damper on it at one point
but just got used to it shaking its head some times!!
The 04s feel more alive than the 06s
(its like they removed its guts somewhat)

**scracha** · 18th February 2007, 20:29

Originally Posted by -df-

Looks:
I love the look of the 7R, its the main reason I purchased my bike...So I'm totally biased on this one and wont go any further

Totally agree with you on that. Did they get the purple ones out there? Everyone else was drooling over 916's but I reckon the ZX7 was one of the best looking bikes ever made. Why the hell Kawasaki couldn't style the ZX9 to look like it's smaller sibling was just bizzarre.