Smacking kids?

**doc** · 26th February 2007, 18:29

Who cares smacking is for PC correct wally's. My kids never stopped with a simple smack it was when I beat them senceless that it stopped and then I felt I was in control again . My kids are very curteous when I speak to them. They are very busy and aren't able to visit often but I'm sure they miss me cos I miss having them around .

**jonbuoy** · 26th February 2007, 18:47

Some kids need a good hiding and some don't. Like dogs - some dogs you never need to hit - a shout and a look is enough. Some need a good wallop to keep em in line. Shouldn't be done with any feeling by you though, a cold calculated measured slap, not a you've pissed me off and I'm having a bad day wallop. Thats bullying.

**SPman** · 26th February 2007, 19:37

Sp Man - are you sure we have the highest rate of child abuse?

Not the highest, but its up there with the worst of them - needs to be a whole lot lower!

**jrandom** · 27th February 2007, 13:38

Originally Posted by Motoracer

The rest of your post confuses me. Simply because I don't know enough about the bill or the legislation that the debate is about.

Go forth and learn.

Interwebs r teh awesome.

**Guitana** · 27th February 2007, 14:34

Originally Posted by SPman

Not the highest, but its up there with the worst of them - needs to be a whole lot lower!

What about Rwanda or does hacking kids up with a machete not count?????

**crack** · 28th February 2007, 21:11

Originally Posted by Guitana

What about Rwanda or does hacking kids up with a machete not count?????

There it is about POWER, and MONEY, TRIBE against TRIBE,WARLORD against ?????, and the GOVT, trying to hold its position:

Add into that UNEDUCATION,HUNGRY,IMPOVERISHED,???????.

Not the same thing at all, and certainly not equatable:

**ajturbo** · 1st March 2007, 18:36

i will smack luke any time i think he needs a wack!.. and some times i will do it just to keep him on his toes!!!
and all you fuckin tree huggers can get fucked!!
i do beat him IF he deserves it!!! and if i use a stick.. he had better run faster!!

hahahahahahahaha

**RT527** · 8th March 2007, 18:23

I heard on the News today something that made my blood boil....Sue Bradford was going on about the recent rape case and that the Public should be listened too because a majority of people said that the police are all rapists and need to be brought to justice( or something like that, was too angry to get all of what was said) .....WTF nearly 90 % of the public dont want her to bring in the anti smacking law....is she listening to the Public ....dont think so, And she should apologise to the police for all the spitting, verbal abuse etc etc that went on when she broke the law....I mean come on!.

Oh and what percentage of the Police force are women ....now we Know for sure that Sue Bradford is a true blood man hater.

**imdying** · 9th March 2007, 08:22

Yep, someone should definitely rape that Bradford women with a PR24, just before they beat her to death with it...

**crack** · 16th March 2007, 00:18

Originally Posted by imdying

Yep, someone should definitely rape that Bradford women with a PR24, just before they beat her to death with it...

Beat her with a BIG MEET STICK:trouble is she in all likelyhood has never had a decent dose of fornication, it would be wasted on her.

**Squeak the Rat** · 16th March 2007, 07:15

It turns out that Helen Clarke actually thinks that light smacking is acceptable, and that this has been the intention of the bill all along!

FFS Helen, do you think the country is going to forget that you have been a staunch supporter of Sue Bradford and her bill, and that all involved have stated that the purpose is to completely eliminate smacking?

Oh, yeah you're right. A lot of kiwis are as stupid as you are dishonest. No doubt you'll come out as the good guy...

**James Deuce** · 16th March 2007, 07:25

Don't forget that Helen originally said she wasn't going to support the bill. Then she did. Now she supports light smacking. Because she's secured the Green Party vote.

Here's a challenge for you all. Any time you even feel like smacking your kids, ring the cops and dob yourself in. That should keep the courts bound up and the rapists on the street.

Might stop a few speeding cases making it to court as well. Maybe even keep some drunks on the road.

**imdying** · 16th March 2007, 07:52

I can feel Helen's tounge up my arse, and it doesn't feel good

Hell no we're gonna forget this.

**Finn** · 16th March 2007, 07:52

Putting politics aside for a moment, lets look at what this bill is actually about... our children's wellbeing. I don't think you should have to smack your kids to educate them on what's right and wrong. I was never smacked and I turned out to be an angel.

**ghost** · 16th March 2007, 07:53

Heres my five cents. It is currently illegal to smack anyone, thats assault. Section 59 allows the use of reasonable force for the diciplining of children, if that what you want to do, your not breaking the law under this act. Bradford says that the bill to repel the act is not an "anti smacking bill", but has admitted that once it is repealed smacking for diciplining children will be illegal, but thats not the point of the bill. She is either increadibly stupid or thinks the rest of New Zealand is.

How ever she has worded the bill and what ever it is suppost to stop it is an anti smacking bill.

She says that the police will use discretion but she fails to admit that the police will have to investigate any complaints of assault, and lay charges if evidence supports that.

So depending on which side of the debate that you sit, for or against smacking, this bill is either a very poorly concieved amendment that will do nothing to prevent child abuse and criminilize a large portion on society, or another form of the socilist engineering that continues to pervade NZ under this goverment.

And before you say that the greens arent part of the goverment, a few years ago steve smarmy mahary attempted to get this moving thru parliment but the pupet master realised how damaging it could be so let it go at the time.

Now the greens are doing the work again..............