Bloody cyclists

[Wolf]

Once again, equating vehicles wrt the road code seems logical, but in practise it aint, as m'cyclists we know that. Wolf,

Errm, sorry, but wrong! As a motorcyclist I know that I am required by law to obey the road rules and that other road users will expect me to do so. If I break those rules, I expect other road users to be suiitably taken off-guard and possibly angered by my actions. I expect that an accident could occur if I were to break the road rules around other vehicles who are expecting me to behave in a predictable fashion.

The road code actually goes on to say "Drivers expect cyclists to obey the road rules."

And the assumption I live by is that other riders/drivers expect me to obey the rules around them regardless of whether I'm in a car, truck, SUV or on a motorcycle or bicycle - my assumption is not that I am privileged and I can bend the rules to suit me because of what i am riding/driving.

If I chose to break the law, I would do so knowing there is every possibility that another road user may not be able to predict my actions and therefore the onus is upon me to either:
a) stop doing it when there are other vehicles around or
b) accept it was my own stupid fault if something goes terribly wrong.

I suggest that you spend 6 months riding a bicycle thru our wonderful NZ tolerant roads before you judge cyclists, it really is quite different.

I judge anyone disobeying the rules to the point that their behaviour becomes unpredictable - bicycles, cars, SUVs, trucks, motorcyclists and pedestrians alike. If someone should materialise suddenly to my left pulling a mono on their motorcycle and passing me (on the left) at a good 50+ km/h faster than I'm going, then I will judge them to be a fuckwit - plain and simple.

[KLOWN]

Once again, equating vehicles wrt the road code seems logical, but in practise it aint, as m'cyclists we know that. Wolf, I suggest that you spend 6 months riding a bicycle thru our wonderful NZ tolerant roads before you judge cyclists, it really is quite different.

Why as motorcylists do we know this? we have to follow the road code EVERYONE who is on the road has to follow the road code.

[MSTRS:Me]

Mstrs, Cant be bothered going thru all this anymore. Just to say there are different types of vehicles on the road, each with their own inherent advantages and disadvantages. The road code is a crude blunt instrument, and as rational people we abide by the rules on the whole but not always as the conditions and practicality dictate. It aint black and white, and I say dont demonise cyclists until you've tried it yourself and see what is real, not whats in the road code...

...blowing....smoke....again....
Public road. Law.

[Wolf]

Why as motorcylists do we know this? we have to follow the road code EVERYONE who is on the road has to follow the road code.

More importantly, other road users expect that the road rules will be followed even if they are breaking the rules themselves - they count on it, I suspect: "It's OK to speed, anyone else around here will be at or near the legal limit, I'll have plenty of time to react..."

Imagine their surprise when they encounter granny in her Morrie Thou' around the corner doing 40km/h and straddling the white line...

Of course, granny was expecting that anyone approaching from behind at 100km/h would have time to slow down...

[Mr Skid]

I was on Old North Rd the other day, and I saw this dude on a bike.
He caught my attention as he was wearing BLUE Quickstep shorts with a ORANGE Scotty Browns jersey.

I've seen some poorly dress cyclists before, but I guessed he must have been stoned when he got dressed that day.

He looked pretty hungry too, shame I didn't have any bread rolls, else I would have thrown him one.

[NhuanH]

I was on Old North Rd the other day, and I saw this dude on a bike.
He caught my attention as he was wearing BLUE Quickstep shorts with a ORANGE Scotty Browns jersey.

I've seen some poorly dress cyclists before, but I guessed he must have been stoned when he got dressed that day.

You = GHEY

He looked pretty hungry too, shame I didn't have any bread rolls, else I would have thrown him one.

What, didn't want to club him with your crutches?

[Mr Skid]

What, didn't want to club him with your crutches?

I hung out the window and gave him the fingers.
He smiled at me.
I felt dirty.

So what about Jan eh?
Oh noooesss!!11!1!

[Alice]

Yep, guilty of riding thru red lights on my pedally, usually turning left with the road flowing that way, not through a t intersection. I am concious when doing it that its going to piss some people off, but guess what, to bad, do you always obey every rule ? I sure as hell do not. I got pulled up by a cop one morning pedalling to work for going through a red light, I smiled sweetly and took his little lecture, whistling silently to myself and glancing skyward.

Yes, we should all be good boys and girls and obey all the rules but how friggin boring is that. As long as what we do does not put anyone else in danger then wtf.

A lot of people seem to have a grudge against cyclists, I used to cycle over 1200/1400km each year, we'd do 400km a week easy at times and more. I was always concious of other road users, main reason being your own safety. We would cycle 2 abreast and if a car was approaching from behind and there was room for it to pass with no oncoming traffic then we'd just keep our line, still the cars at times thought it was a major inconvenance to have to swerve and would not be shy to let yu no, if there was oncoming traffic then we'd get into single file. Other times I'd be pedalling along minding my own buisness enjoying the day, in no ones way and some small brain would decide its a good idea to hurl a bottle of coke or a tomato or something at yu. Also as I mentioned earlier, lottsa cars and trucks think its fun to play Finns game, I would not usually bother reacting, its like whatever, you want to run me over then just friggin do it. Teaches yu good reaction skills though, its all good when transfering it to the world of motorcycling. Most cyclists do not cause a problem, and cycle clubs are proactive in trying to make sure the riders obey the road rules, people lose series points for dangerous riding. There are some ignorant people out there, that goes for all walks of life so don't tar all with the same brush.

Perhaps you could lay a complaint with the local constabulary and insist the cyclist in the photo be charged with failing to keep left, hell, hes guilty as, its there for all to see.

I gotta go now, home time and I got a red light or two to pedal through.

Yu all be good now.

[forkoil]

Nice Alice, well said.

[Guitana]

I suppose on a Cyclists forum somewhere they've probably got a thread on Bloody Skate Boarders!!!!

[forkoil]

I suppose on a Cyclists forum somewhere they've probably got a thread on Bloody Skate Boarders!!!!

nail <-> head <-> hit

[jrandom]

I suppose on a Cyclists forum somewhere they've probably got a thread on Bloody Skate Boarders!!!!

Pedestrians, mate. Motherfucking pedestrians. Blind, deaf, suicidal, and most of the time only a couple of unknowing steps away from mutilation.

[jrandom]

I was on Old North Rd the other day, and I saw this dude on a bike...

And immediately became aroused?

Understandable.

I hear that I constitute "quite a nice view from behind". You may even have met the chick who said that.

He caught my attention as he was wearing BLUE Quickstep shorts with a ORANGE Scotty Browns jersey.

I'd catch your attention anywhere, anytime, baby. You know it.

And I'll have you know that Scotty pays me to wear that jersey, thank you very fucking much.

I guessed he must have been stoned when he got dressed...

It was the weekend. I'm always stoned.

He looked pretty hungry too...

Mrs Fish hid the chocolate.

[McJim]

Ahhh this ol' chestnut again.

Unfortunately I obey the road rules on foot, on pushies, on motorbikes and in cars....sorry to disappoint but my problem is with the people who don't - irrespective of the vehicles they use!

[elle-f]

A work colleague of mine got a letter from the police yesterday and they showed her car over the centre line on the Rimutakas on one of those sweeping bends when you can see ahead - and the car was no more than a tyre over - and they were wanting to know details of who was driving and where they were going and if she gave false details then it's a 10,000 fine. To see those cyclists doing what the hell they like kinda pisses me off.

OH if you are going over the Takas - be careful because over the past few weeks there have always been coppers there taking pix on their cheapass digicams.