Aresholes con a jury, part two

[spudchucka]

I stick to my guns that rapes should not be tried in the Westminster system.

Remember that if you ever find yourself the subject of a false complaint.

[Lou Girardin]

Remember that if you ever find yourself the subject of a false complaint.

Perhaps Spud, that in this age of miniscule attention spans and an increasingly stupid population, the inquisitorial system is more suitable. It's said that it is prone to abuse and corruption, but we don't have either in NZ.
Right?

[Grahameeboy]

Perhaps Spud, that in this age of miniscule attention spans and an increasingly stupid population, the inquisitorial system is more suitable. It's said that it is prone to abuse and corruption, but we don't have either in NZ.
Right?

Mmmm...sorry what did you say.

The way I see it life aint perfect gentlemen. I agree there may have been an injustice, however, the justice system has to follow evidence not hearts and one day Lou you may be thankful for the justice system and Dented's post is just one example.

[James Deuce]

There's a copy of John Grisham's book, "A Time To Kill", sitting on the top step of the Police HQ in Wellington.

There are posters going up all over town, false Police Recruiting ones suggesting that if you join the Police you get to rape someone as a perk.

Don't be surprised if the next time you smart mouth a cop, you get the book thrown at you. 3 guys do not comprise an entire Police force.

You dicks.

[Grahameeboy]

There's a copy of John Grisham's book, "A Time To Kill", sitting on the top step of the Police HQ in Wellington.

There are posters going up all over town, false Police Recruiting ones suggesting that if you join the Police you get to rape someone as a perk.

Don't be surprised if the next time you smart mouth a cop, you get the book thrown at you. 3 guys do not comprise an entire Police force.

You dicks.

Agree to the last bit Jimbo..........

[denill]

I think that case caused a swing towards requiring a higher level of proof for a conviction. (i.e. prior to A.A.T. case Rickard and co. may well have been convicted)

Good point. Every court case provides a degree of precedent for all following cases. And as you wrote - there has been a tendency to err on the 'not guilty' side since the Thomas cover up.

That may have had an effect on the latest unsavory case.

I am old enough to say that the events that were perpetrated (and the events that were said to be perpetrated) were far more likely to have occurred 20 or more years ago than they would in the current culture of the Police force.

In the old school they 'looked after their mates'.

Shit one cop in Taranaki recently zapped his colleague with a drink driving offence when he turned out to a road accident after having a couple!

[Macktheknife]

I am old enough to say that the events that were perpetrated (and the events that were said to be perpetrated) were far more likely to have occurred 20 or more years ago than they would in the current culture of the Police force.

In the old school they 'looked after their mates'.

Shit one cop in Taranaki recently zapped his colleague with a drink driving offence when he turned out to a road accident after having a couple!

Yes but he defended it and got off I believe, he was the only cop for some distance and provided urgently needed assistance for the injured.
I still reckon it was a shitty thing to do to charge the guy too, but it does indicate the way the culture has changed.

[ManDownUnder]

Yes but he defended it and got off I believe, he was the only cop for some distance and provided urgently needed assistance for the injured.
I still reckon it was a shitty thing to do to charge the guy too, but it does indicate the way the culture has changed.

Actually the judge parised him for knowlingly putting his neck on the block to come to the defence of another... maybe those "spreading the hate" need reminding of that wee act of geroism... and a few others that are no doubt unreported.

Blaming the police force for the actions of a few (and I'll say 2 here, rather than 3)... is fucken naieve at BEST.

[James Deuce]

No one's going to bite are they?

"A Time to Kill" is about a man who kills the people who rape his child.

[ManDownUnder]

No one's going to bite are they?

"A Time to Kill" is about a man who kills the people who rape his child.

No I'm not going to bite - the person putting the book there is beneath contempt.

[ManDownUnder]

I'm sure thieves get sacked without the cases ever seeing the inside of a courtroom.

No - only if they agree to being sacked - arguably an admission of guilt. Should they maintain their claim of innocence and disagree with their dismissal they can take it to court - where the evidence gets assessed, and a decision get's handed down accordingly.

[Steam]

Not fair on the good cops though. But interesting anyway.

[spudchucka]

Perhaps Spud, that in this age of miniscule attention spans and an increasingly stupid population, the inquisitorial system is more suitable. It's said that it is prone to abuse and corruption, but we don't have either in NZ.
Right?

Where have you been lately? Have had another all expenses paid trip to the homeland again?

Wherever there are people with authority and power there will be abuse and corruption. Little old NZ is, as far as I'm concerned, is relatively well off in this regard.

The inquisitorial system just sounds too French for my liking.

[Grahameeboy]

Where have you been lately? Have had another all expenses paid trip to the homeland again?

Wherever there are people with authority and power there will be abuse and corruption. Little old NZ is, as far as I'm concerned, is relatively well off in this regard.
The inquisitorial system just sounds too French for my liking.

I am pretty certain that, statisticaly NZ is the 2nd least corrupt Country in the world with Denmark being 1st...........

I think Lou's problem is that he is not sure which is is homeland.......he just needs time eh?

[James Deuce]

Not fair on the good cops though. But interesting anyway.

It's not interesting, it's libelous and I hope the NZ Police find who did and charge them with libel.