Aresholes con a jury, part two

[Guitana]

Could this be why the judge suppressed some of the evidence? Because it's probative value was outweighed by it propensity to influence the outcome?

It's an emotional issue - that's a good thing. Ripping each other's throats out - not so good.

Yeah she is a nasty little thing red repped me twice and sent messages containing potty mouthed comments!!!
Must be that time of the month!!!!
Don't take it too seriously Goblin we all love you

[Patrick]

So many know so much about all of the cases these 3 have faced... did they give any evidence and help out these victims? If not, why not???????

Or are chinese whispers doing their worst, like, "I know a girl whose neighbours dog killed a cat that belonged to the boy in the next town who is the 5th cousin of an old lady who knows a friend of a friend who once sat next to a man who used to go out with blah blah blah... who was told by one of those poor girls....."

Or is KB just doing what it does best....

[ManDownUnder]

So many know so much about all of the cases these 3 have faced... did they give any evidence and help out these victims? If not, why not???????

Or are chinese whispers doing their worst, like, "I know a girl whose neighbours dog killed a cat that belonged to the boy in the next town who is the 5th cousin of an old lady who knows a friend of a friend who once sat next to a man who used to go out with blah blah blah... who was told by one of those poor girls....."

Or is KB just doing what it does best....

All of the above - it's a hot topic.

1 or two are close to the case... or close to the issue (me included).

Chinese whispers combined with a selection of headlines and stories designed to sell advertising space

KB doing it's thing.

[Squeak the Rat]

KB doing it's thing.

Bullpuky, this talk isn't consigned to KB. The whole of the country has been engaged in talk that mirrors this thread*.

*speculation based on observations, both personally and from the all-mighty media.

[Patrick]

Bullpuky, this talk isn't consigned to KB. The whole of the country has been engaged in talk that mirrors this thread*.

*speculation based on observations, both personally and from the all-mighty media.

The masses of the uninformed?

[Scouse]

The masses of the uninformed?

you mean the masses of the ununiformed

[Squeak the Rat]

you mean the masses of the ununiformed

Or the meanies of the uniformed.

bahahaha

[Goblin]

Got any further evidence to support the claims that were proven by a jury to be insufficient to convict them?? No I thought not!!
You all just go on and fucken on all men are bastards blah fucken blah you're full of shit the guy was found not guilty let it go!!!

FYI I was NOT there! The case IS over and I, nor Louise and her family and friends(or the other women they preyed upon) will EVER get over it because it is a HUGE INJUSTICE!

I have NEVER hated men and it's not about hating men. It IS about these particular scumbags that aren't even worthy of being called men! You sound as though you support them! I now know where you stand on the subject!

[Joni]

Yeah she is a nasty little thing red repped me twice and sent messages containing potty mouthed comments!!!

Just a quick FYI, only one of the three red reps you have received was from her, so obviously others dont agree with you too....

So, lets play nice here people.

[avgas]

To be quite honest I think if I were on trial for rape and a verdcit of not guilty was returned for the second time I would be a little fucked off!!
The cost of both trials both financially and psychologically especially for his kids has been huge!!
If the police were going to spend in excess of 15 million to try and prosecute these guys they should've had an airtight case!!
The fact that the defense lawyers poked so many holes in the prosecutions evidence is a joke!!! The real proof in the pudding will be when he countersues her for dragging him through this shit!!
He may be guilty I don't know, only the people directly involved in the case will truly know what happened!
But he has been judged by a jury and found to be not guilty!! End of story!!!

Fact of the matter is if he came clean the first time with the family rather than bullshit, then he wouldn't be in the boat. I dont know if it was or wasnt rape - but he lied to his own family, not the prosecution....he cheated on his wife and his family. All rape aside, if he wasnt man enough to admit his own actions then he is not trust worthy enough to run a police force.

[MisterD]

if he wasnt man enough to admit his own actions then he is not trust worthy enough to run a police force.

Eh? He was 22 at the time, and I certainly wouldn't want a 22yr old running the police force, there's a lot of good coppering experience gained in the intervening years....there are a number of sensible reasons to argue that he shouldn't be district commander anymore, but that isn't one of them.

[Guitana]

Just a quick FYI, only one of the three red reps you have received was from her, so obviously others dont agree with you too....

So, lets play nice here people.

So because they think my comments are wrong I'm not aloud to have my say!!So they red rep me and abuse me sounds like a democracy!!
At least if you're going to abuse someone do it so other members can see it!!
I'm entitled to my opinion!!

Harden up!!!

[Grahameeboy]

That's because Helen bribed the statisticians.

No squeaky, she has no influence overseas........it was INDEPENDANT....

[Grahameeboy]

So because they think my comments are wrong I'm not aloud to have my say!!So they red rep me and abuse me sounds like a democracy!!
At least if you're going to abuse someone do it so other members can see it!!
I'm entitled to my opinion!!

Harden up!!!

I agree with you matey in this case......but remember some of the old geezers here have trubs hardening up....take pity...

[candor]

What these people either can't or won't face up to is that the majority of todays serving cops were either small children or weren't even born in 1983, when these alleged incidents occurred.

Good point. That police poster is just DUMB and not funny at all. If anyone should be picked on its the legal occupation as they actually intentionally work for scum and sit on parole boards ruining society.

So if CR was the baby of the gang at a tender 22 whose prospect was he?

Of course if I was a rapist I'd be all for the present system - it could not be better for a rapist. You can be like the ninja and never get seen.

But just because it benefits rapists or accused rapists does not makre it a good fair system.

The woman's (typically) predicament is the same as the philanthropists if every time they got robbed while on the street the robber could say "but he gave it to me, everyone knows he has a history of giving money to charity - he must just be muddled up".

Can't anyone see the dilemna here. Every woman who is capable of sex can be accused of charity (so to speak). And the moment the accusation is made there will always be reasonable doubt raised. Case closed - jury go home.

Situation NOT SATIS. JUSTICE WAY WAAAAAY BEYOND REACH.... NOT JUST FOR THE VICTIM BUT FOR THE FUTURE VICTIMS THE WRONG VERDICTS SET UP TO OCCUR WHEN MR VERY BAD MAN REMAINS ON THE LOOSE.

Why spend days hearing evidence when that defense is sure fire in most cases. How the hell can someone prove non consent - impossible!

Even women who got beaten the juries can often enough rationalise that to "she likes rough sex" if the defense lawyer does a good enough number. That couldn't happen in a robbery - "they like it that way".

Its just obviously lunacy all round and no solution seems in the offing. Unless hmmmm.... unless we microchip the more agressive gender with an "eye spy"so we can watch them at all times. Upside for men - no false accusations!!

I have met 2 confessed female abusers maybe 3 (not sure on the third). Just like male rapists they don't have monster stamped on their heads.

One was imprisoned for little child molestation after confessing. The other was a tough gang girl who with some mates alleged she did very nasty acts on a rapist within the gang 15 years ago as they'd just had enough of him. It was not a nice fantasy. I would say he might have thought twice about "how it feels" now but dunno.

OK you guys can easily imagine being in a false accuseds shoes. Now try imagining being the victim trying to convince people you'd not have had sex with an opposite sex member. The only hpe is to cry gay really.