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**Motu** · 12th March 2007, 21:03

Originally Posted by Toast

Is it really comparable to F1? Downforce makes a huge difference to corner speed and top speed of F1 cars, but obviously that doesn't apply to bikes.

The Ducati has better aerodynamics than the other bikes,this (as well as the motor) gives it the edge in top speed,but the fairing is much bigger than the others,I guess this would have some effect too.To pull a higher top speed,it is either geared higher,or pulls more revs for more top end punch - take your pick,but either one will not help it through the corners.Stoner was using Rossi to pull him along,then pulling out and just leaving him behind.Wait until we have a track with less top speed on the straights and we'll what Ducati does with it's extra ponies.There is no doubt the Ducati has more power,it's all about how they exploit that advantage.And it looks like Stoner knows what he's doing.

**Finn** · 12th March 2007, 21:12

Originally Posted by Motu

The Ducati has better aerodynamics than the other bikes,this (as well as the motor) gives it the edge in top speed,but the fairing is much bigger than the others,I guess this would have some effect too.To pull a higher top speed,it is either geared higher,or pulls more revs for more top end punch - take your pick,but either one will not help it through the corners.Stoner was using Rossi to pull him along,then pulling out and just leaving him behind.Wait until we have a track with less top speed on the straights and we'll what Ducati does with it's extra ponies.There is no doubt the Ducati has more power,it's all about how they exploit that advantage.And it looks like Stoner knows what he's doing.

You're wasting your time in that garage Motu.

**Motu** · 12th March 2007, 21:56

Ducati colours are red - sponsored by the communists and the Labour party.

**Brian d marge** · 13th March 2007, 01:29

Originally Posted by Motu

The Ducati has better aerodynamics than the other bikes,this (as well as the motor) gives it the edge in top speed,but the fairing is much bigger than the others,I guess this would have some effect too.To pull a higher top speed,it is either geared higher,or pulls more revs for more top end punch - take your pick,but either one will not help it through the corners.Stoner was using Rossi to pull him along,then pulling out and just leaving him behind.Wait until we have a track with less top speed on the straights and we'll what Ducati does with it's extra ponies.There is no doubt the Ducati has more power,it's all about how they exploit that advantage.And it looks like Stoner knows what he's doing.

To add to the above , Windtunnels . I suspected and it was mentioned , and look at Yamahas new sponsor ,,FIAT ( who have access to a wind tunnel )
Time in these things is limited/expensive , and needed. Cant remember the name of the English Guy whose name was talked about ..but he is/was behind Ducati ...heard of him before ... yes Ducati did put some effort in to get the bike sorted ( Wonder if the Ducati windtunnel is the same as the FIAT one?? Pinna Farrina?? (sp))

Do Yamaha have a tunnel.. , I am not aware of one the only one I can think of is the one used for NASA ( jap version) ..

Anyway when you aint got the cc you have to slide through the air .. it will give you top speed for less HP ( Dustbin anyone??)

BUT Burgess is a clever cookie , and they have been working on corner stablity.. Now how many tracks use high /long corner speeds . Also as the season progresses , As the corner speeds are now high , ( not to much of the point and squirt ) ,,, Well I like Burgesses thinking ,,,stable in the last part of the race ...,,

Either way it going to be interesting

Go the Ilmor!!!!

Stephen

**Deviant Esq** · 13th March 2007, 04:49

Originally Posted by TonyB

Arg! Damn you Prime! Damn you Sky! In desperation I managed to find a blurry 15 min vid, complete with Japanese comentary.

It was on Eurosport over here, which annoyingly I don't have... but I managed to find a good torrent and watched the whole race... just a couple of days delayed.

Good to watch though! Does anyone know the specs of each manufacturer's engine layout? I gather Yamaha: IL4, Ducati: V2, Honda: V4... but I don't know about Kawasaki or Suzuki. Anybody else? I haven't really followed Moto GP before, just World Superbikes. Pretty different I guess! UK Bike magazine did an article on Honda's RCV211V V5 engine and called it the best motorbike engine ever made. Interesting read.