"I thought the Irish and Scots were the best of pals"
jimmy has expressed his disdain for the irish on a number of occassions.
it's like kiwis and aussies; only 'friends' when they're ganging up on the english
Depends on what tribes they're from. There was a lot of inter-tribe/inter-clan fighting, there were allegiances and fostering of each other's children was used to build good relationships, as was intermarrying.
What Vercingetorix achieved at the battle of Alesia was amazing - he managed to unite Celtic tribes against a common enemy. 'Twas a bugger he lost. And unlike the pustules that pass for world leaders (or even corporate leaders) these days, who are quick to find a scapegoat for their fuck ups, when he failed he presented himself to the chiefs and gave them the choice of dealing with him themselves or handing him over to the Romans. They elected to pass him over to the Romans.
He bathed, put on his finest clothes and walked to the Roman fortification where he surrendered, taking full responsibility for leading the tribes against the Roman invaders.
Caesar, the "great civilised Roman" dragged him around Gaul as a war trophy and, on his triumphant return to Rome, paraded him before the public and had him "strangled like a dog" in the middle of the Via Apia.
And people wonder why I have no respect for our current crop of "leaders" and why I hate the Romans with a vengeance and really get slutted when some retarded so-called "Academic" witters on about "Roman Civilisation" - there has never been any such fucking thing!
The only Celt I seriously want to boot up the arse (aside from that slag Cartimandua of the Brigantes who betrayed Caratacos to the Romans) is Brennius - he had Rome on its knees before him, held the Senate hostage and demanded (and got) ransom (this was before Rome became an Empire). The bugger should have killed them all and burned the place to the ground then sowed the soil with salt (as the Romans would later do to Carthage) to ensure the pustulent scum never got beond subsistance foraging for the next 2000 years, let alone became an Empire.
The last human queen I am prepared to recognise, is Boudicca.
Motorbike Camping for the win!
And as to red rep - I never give it out. Green rep, frequently - including to those with whom I disagree if they argue well enough. I'd rather state my mind in public than red rep a person in private. I don't resort to blowing raspberries or chanting "nya nya nya" either - I put them all on a par...
Motorbike Camping for the win!
Boudicca's campaign, while devastating, was aimed at soft targets - her army was unfortunately ill equipped when they actually came up against the Roman Army - they were also out-positioned on the field and where discretion is the better part of valour and cowardice is the better part of discretion they should have bravely utilised their local knowledge and run away!
Instead, they stood and fought and were slaughtered before the remaining survivors ran away. Boudicca herself is thought to have killed herself rather than be taken alive by the Romans and it is believed that faithful followers disposed of her body so that the Romans could not descrate it or her grave.
At least she made a stand against the so-called Emperor-God Nero and taught a few Romans that you don't rape a queen and have her daughters flogged without dire consequences.
They were also hindered by the fact that the Celts were great skirmish fighters but lousy at tactics and going up against trained, disciplined troops such as the Roman soldiers.
Motorbike Camping for the win!
My Clan motto:
"Touch not the cat but a glove"
A Celt from wayback.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........![]()
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........![]()
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
My great grandmothers are; Maori (Tamakiamoana), aboriginal Australian, English and a Jewess.
The male line on my fathers side goes back to Cornish (good ol Pirates) – our history is first recorded in 46AD when the Romans were travelling to Bath and came across our anceistors in the Kingswood Forest by Bristol – apparently they were pigeon eaters!
I find it interesting we are often referred to as European? No Europeans in my line.
So what happened to the Pict’s – they were there before the Scott’s weren’t they? Where they go?
I'm back,
Been away for a few days spreading the genes in the southern climes.
Gotta improve the bloodline whenever possible.
Nice to see this thread has developed so well.
Some serious, some a lile touchy, most enjoyng a real good rant.
I thought I was going to get blown out of the water over this one when I oriinally wrote it.
I was pissed off at inferences both here and elsewhere, that I didnt have a culture or at least one that counted.
The oldest identifiable Celtic remains unearthed were in the Swiss Alps and dated back 7000 years, even those were fairly sophisticated items so modern archeology guesses that the Celts originated somewhere around the steppes of what is now Russia.
How can I as a decendant of these people not have a culture or a proud history.
Not many people know that the story of "King Arthur" as written by Geofry of Monmouthshire came from Celtic stories. He said that he travelled to the "land of the Britons" and used their stories from the Book of the Celts as a basis for his story. His story was written in the 13th century while he was in Cambridge. "The Land of the Britons" refered to was Wales. A celtic country then.
Welsh, Cornish, Irish, Scotts, IOM, and Brettons are all of the bloodline. Apart from a lot of rape and pillage of course.
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
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