Number-one driving offence.

[Fatjim]

Its a shame, and the worst thing is any body that knows that intersection will know how blody dangours it is, its not thefrst person to be killed in that spot all from doing exactly the same thing.

Given the context, "body" means a dead lump of human flesh. Since these don't know much it's probably better to join the "any" to the "body" and bring it alive.

[Clockwork]

Yeah, well you should hear the screams and pathetic excuses when you DO ticket soembody for failing to stop at a stop sign.

"I was stopped" "I nearly stopped" " nothing was coming" "I thought it was a give way" etc etc.

And then there are those that drive around with a car load (or just by themselves) while on a Learner licence.
"But I'm the sober driver" "I thought it was OK if your brother was with you" "I was just taking the DVDs back to the video shop" "I've got a licence"

Garrrgh!!!!

Ticket me when I drive through some of the bloody stupid compulsory STOP intersections around my town with perfectly good visability in both directions and nothing comming for me to give way to and you can hear me have a good winge about it too.....

I have the utmost respect for compulsory stop intersections..... where used appropriately, all else is just bullshit imho

[Skyryder]

Ticket me when I drive through some of the bloody stupid compulsory STOP intersections around my town with perfectly good visability in both directions and nothing comming for me to give way to and you can hear me have a good winge about it too.....

I have the utmost respect for compulsory stop intersections..... where used appropriately, all else is just bullshit imho

And that is exactly the reason people get killed at compulsary stops. Oh I thought the road was clear.

Skyryder

[Edbear]

Its a shame, and the worst thing is any body that knows that intersection will know how blody dangours it is, its not thefrst person to be killed in that spot all from doing exactly the same thing.

Lived in Morrinsville for 10 years, every time I travel 27 I am on full alert approaching that intersection even after major reconstruction there!

Was a discussion on the radio Friday, about how so many seem to take too long to move after the green light. Contradicting the complaints about being too slow to move was the argument, esp. in Auck. that to move immediately the light turns green is a sure way to die from those racing through the red!

Around here, green means pause and check, then go! Even in Orewa, they need red-light camera's! Stop signs? Don't they mean, "slow briefly"?

[scumdog]

And that is exactly the reason people get killed at compulsary stops. Oh I thought the road was clear.

Skyryder

'Dead' right - after a person has driven through a stop-sign controlled intersection and caused a crash I have yet to hear any of them say "Oh, I could see another car coming but drove through the intersection anyway".

[Clockwork]

And that is exactly the reason people get killed at compulsary stops. Oh I thought the road was clear.

Skyryder

Nuts!!!! they get killed because they didn't look!!..... I believe it can happen at Give Way intersections too.

Compulsory stops should be used only where there are visablilty issues. Idiots who fail to give way are just as likely to do it at CS intersections as GW intersections.

[Patrick]

Ticket me when I drive through some of the bloody stupid compulsory STOP intersections around my town with perfectly good visability in both directions and nothing comming for me to give way to and you can hear me have a good winge about it too.....

I have the utmost respect for compulsory stop intersections..... where used appropriately, all else is just bullshit imho

They are usually turned into stop signs because somewhere, some time, someone didn't give way and died, or at least it is a high crash intersection because people don't get it....

[Clockwork]

So did the stop sign work in this case? Apparently not, because the driver involved was not paying attention, he probably didn't even realise he was going through a CS intersection!

If I drive through one it will be because I can see that there is nothing to give way to.

[scumdog]

If I drive through one it will be because I can see that there is nothing to give way to.

Mwahahaha!
Famous last words - I wish I had a dollar every time I heard that one after a crash at a CS intersection (or a GW one for that matter).

[KLOWN]

Mwahahaha!
Famous last words - I wish I had a dollar every time I heard that one after a crash at a CS intersection (or a GW one for that matter).

exactly. Doesn't matter wheather its a give way or a stop sign. People just need to open their eyes and fucking look!

[Clockwork]

Mwahahaha!
Famous last words - I wish I had a dollar every time I heard that one after a crash at a CS intersection (or a GW one for that matter).

I feel we are failing to communicate here. If you are attending incidents at intersections then obviously some one failed to give way; it really doesn't matter what they say at this point they've already demonstrated their inattention.

If I approach an intersection, in a 50kph zone and can clearly see 80-100m in each direction, and the road is empty............ why would I stop? Its not unlike the passing restrictions that are used where you can see for miles if its safe to pass. My feelings are that these scenarios are created by nannying bureaucrats and effectively diminish the credibility, respect for and ultimately value of worthwhile road safety devices.

[scumdog]

I feel we are failing to communicate here. If you are attending incidents at intersections then obviously some one failed to give way; it really doesn't matter what they say at this point they've already demonstrated their inattention.

If I approach an intersection, in a 50kph zone and can clearly see 80-100m in each direction, and the road is empty............ why would I stop? Its not unlike the passing restrictions that are used where you can see for miles if its safe to pass. My feelings are that these scenarios are created by nannying bureaucrats and effectively diminish the credibility, respect for and ultimately value of worthwhile road safety devices.

Listen Sherlock, I bet all the drivers that failed to stop/give-way and crashed at intersections had the same attitude, they all thought that stopping was only if they could see a car...or for other drivers who weren't as good as them.

I'd put money on none of them saying "Yer, I could see that there car a-coming but decided to go for it anyway".

Just like all those that have head-ons, run off the road and other bad driving thought they were better than average drivers too.

Oh, and "why should I stop"? - 'cos the law sez ya should - or pay $150 for the privelege of not doing so.


Nice troll BTW!!!!

[Skyryder]

Listen Sherlock, I bet all the drivers that failed to stop/give-way and crashed at intersections had the same attitude, they all thought that stopping was only if they could see a car...or for other drivers who weren't as good as them.

I'd put money on none of them saying "Yer, I could see that there car a-coming but decided to go for it anyway".

Just like all those that have head-ons, run off the road and other bad driving thought they were better than average drivers too.

Oh, and "why should I stop"? - 'cos the law sez ya should - or pay $150 for the privelege of not doing so.


Nice troll BTW!!!!

Good one SD. And I bet these fucker are the first to complain if a cage cuts them off or does not signal etc. Or for that matter a cage does not stop at a Compulsary Stop. A stop sign says what it means. STOP. It's one of the biggest sign out on the road. So whats wrong with giving your legs a stretch for a second or two. There is just no excuse of not stopping, period.

Skyryder

[scumdog]

Good one SD. And I bet these fucker are the first to complain if a cage cuts them off or does not signal etc. Or for that matter a cage does not stop at a Compulsary Stop. A stop sign says what it means. STOP. It's one of the biggest sign out on the road. So whats wrong with giving your legs a stretch for a second or two. There is just no excuse of not stopping, period.

Skyryder

True S.R. - but THEIR time is FAR more important than anybody elses - so why should THEY stop???

[T-Thunder13]

maybe they (learner drivers) should learn how to read befor they get behind the wheel of a car. (especially in the waikato haha)
and it should be compulsory for drivers to sit a defensive driving course before there allowed to do thier written learners, then they would have some idea of how to be alert on roads, i know it helped me drive more safely.
no driving course no licence.
they dont need to drop the age. they need to raise the iq of the fucken spoons driving.
and the 22 year old, sounds like a slut. was probably going to ruin his life anyway.