Permanent weight loss...advice from ladies!

[sunhuntin]

have made a decision to try and get fitter and loose some of the fat. tonights a bad night...going through a minor bad patch thanks to my father who seems to think im useless, and will forget to pay my credit card tomorrow.. having never missed a bill in my life, nor a layby payment and only been late to work once. [misjudged head winds returning from palmy nth]

hired a strider on monday...for 3 months. currently up to 15 mins non stop. the following is parts ive cut and pasted from an msn chat.

im just wonderin if it will all be worth it, or should i quit now and accept what is. cant see as my life will change any other than smaller clothing size. wont make me much happier, wont get me a permanent partner...

feel like painting the mirror in the bathroom just so i cant see in it. hate mirrors.

gonna be hard, but im determined to do this. i want a rowing machine to go with the strider, but no room now.

my diet apparently is starting next week.

i remember being stoked at the loss of fat when i last succeeded, but honestly, couldnt see it in myself. strange. the mirror looked no different. even though i knew it should. my old jeans fit, but it didnt seem that amazing. now, it seems amazing they used to fit!

it seems i get slimmer, but dont lose the fat. my legs are very powerful, but they stay flabby. same with my arms. i dont know why and dont know how to shift it. my gut and backside are the worst [remember that pic of kirstie ally in the garden? my ass is like that!]

are there any formerly or still big ladies who have lost weight, and what did you do to get rid of the flab, and keep it at bay?

[Deviant Esq]

As I said on MSN, I know you can do it, and it's definitely worth it. A photo will definitely pick the difference... because even if clothing hides most of it, the difference is in the face.

cant see as my life will change any other than smaller clothing size. wont make me much happier, wont get me a permanent partner...

It's a bit of an intangible, but your outlook on life will change quite a lot. Emotional change is quite difficult, I've been through it myself and it's not easy. But one thing that makes it possible is believing in yourself, and physical change. If you stick with it, grit it out and succeed, you'll gain so much confidence in yourself... your whole outlook on life will change for the better, so that a permanent partner really won't matter. A happy life comes from inside you... and good things happen to a happy and confident person. Or is it just that you're able to see the good things when they happen?

I won't post dieting tips here even though I've got loads... I'll leave that to the ladies of KB, but as you know, you're welcome to ask about anything I've used. Never used any diet plans as such, just simple stuff, but it has worked well for me

You can do it C, and I'll try to support you as best I can to help make it possible.

[soundbeltfarm]

dont call it a diet it is a change of diet.
when i was a bit younger i had a share in a gym and in that time seen all the fads come and go.
high carbs no fat to no carbs all protein and so on.
if you starve yourself your body goes survival mode and will try to store fat.
you may get slim but it is muscle mass that you will lose before fat.
you need protein to keep your muscle
the eating habits i seen that work best is eat 6 smaller meals a day.
limit the fat that you eat but not the protein, or carbs.
lift some weights as the more muscle mass you have the higer your metabolisim gets and the more fat you burn.
i dont mean go and lift weights to tuen into a bodybuilder .
dont weigh yourself because as you lose fat you'l gain muscle and since its heavier than fat you may wiegh more and get demoralised.
But you will be getting a toned body.
use fat calipersif you want to keep an eye on your progress.
dont make your eating habits a chore, prepare your meals in advance and leave them in a container so when you get home from work on somedays and cant be bothered cooking you've got a meal already, just nuke it.
your mind is your most powerful tool for losing fat.
keep commited and you will do it and once you are happy with your progress you wont fall back into shit eating routines as you'll enjoy eating good nutritious foods.
on one program ive seen and i think it is a pretty good idea is that one day a week you can eat shit food if you want so it can help cravings for something you really want eat like burgers and stuff.
dont be hard on yourself if your progress falls behind where you want to be.
just forget it and carry on back on track.
and just love who you are and be happy in the knowledge that you are feeding your body good fuel and getting into shape.
there are as many different ways of losing fat or weight or gaining weight as there are people on this site so not everyone will agree with what ive said but it's what ive found works best and people keep going with it.
its a whole lifestyle change not just "oh shit i'll eat some protein no fats go for a few runs and she'l be sweet mate , i'l look a million bucks "
because it is so easy to fall back into your old habits.

I wish you all the best.
and remember only you can make it happen.
how bad do you want it ?
Focus.

[Ixion]

Sigh. I keep making resolutions. And even buying clothes that are too tight "to give myself an incentive"

I'm sure you will have better will power than I.

I CAN manage to lose a bit in summer . Last summer I lost about 12 kg . Mainly by exercise though, and this summer (what there was of it) I had a few health problems that stopped me getting out and exercisng , and I've put it (almost) all back on.

What vicious bastard made food and drink taste so GOOD.

But , I must say, that your value as a person is totally unrelated to weight size or shape. And try to pcik up good vibes to offset your father's negativity. Why DO people be so negative. I never understand that.

[MyGSXF:Me]

Emotional change is quite difficult, I've been through it myself and it's not easy

I am with DE.. emotional change, will change your life.. it permeates into everything else.. & can't help BUT make everything else better!!

I put this post below in the Depression thread.. have a read sunhuntin.. it's not about 'weight loss'.. but to life in general.. & I hope that it may help you a little..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=362

Jen. for you

[sunhuntin]

thanks soundbelt. much appreciated. i wouldnt mind a calliper thingy. will have to ask around. ill keep reading your thread...very helpful

agreed ixion...its more often mum that im telling off for being negative. dad very rarely does...must be why it hurt. had only just walked in the door, in a good mood, and boom.

[doc]

have made a decision to try and get fitter and loose some of the fat. tonights a bad night...going through a minor bad patch thanks to my father who seems to think im useless, and will forget to pay my credit card tomorrow.. having never missed a bill in my life, nor a layby payment and only been late to work once. [misjudged head winds returning from palmy nth]

hired a strider on monday...for 3 months. currently up to 15 mins non stop. the following is parts ive cut and pasted from an msn chat.

im just wonderin if it will all be worth it, or should i quit now and accept what is. cant see as my life will change any other than smaller clothing size. wont make me much happier, wont get me a permanent partner...

feel like painting the mirror in the bathroom just so i cant see in it. hate mirrors.

gonna be hard, but im determined to do this. i want a rowing machine to go with the strider, but no room now.

my diet apparently is starting next week.

i remember being stoked at the loss of fat when i last succeeded, but honestly, couldnt see it in myself. strange. the mirror looked no different. even though i knew it should. my old jeans fit, but it didnt seem that amazing. now, it seems amazing they used to fit!

it seems i get slimmer, but dont lose the fat. my legs are very powerful, but they stay flabby. same with my arms. i dont know why and dont know how to shift it. my gut and backside are the worst [remember that pic of kirstie ally in the garden? my ass is like that!]

are there any formerly or still big ladies who have lost weight, and what did you do to get rid of the flab, and keep it at bay?

Have you got a picture of your bike ? Thats more important to us fellas. It's not faster than mine is it.

[Deviant Esq]

Sigh. I keep making resolutions. And even buying clothes that are too tight "to give myself an incentive"

I'm sure you will have better will power than I.

I CAN manage to lose a bit in summer . Last summer I lost about 12 kg . Mainly by exercise though, and this summer (what there was of it) I had a few health problems that stopped me getting out and exercisng , and I've put it (almost) all back on.

What vicious bastard made food and drink taste so GOOD.

Mate. If I can do it, you can too.

Exercise: Ever consider swimming? Very good workout, and very low physical impact. It's a cracker, improves your strength and stamina, but no jolts on your joints like running does. You only need 30 mins to an hour a couple of times a week, with something else thrown in another day for a bit of variety, but it works a charm. Reshapes your upper body too

Diet: The trick to remember with a change of your diet is that it never takes a holiday. Once you resolve to change the way you eat, it has to stay changed or you slip back to your old habits. I found this out the hard way. Tried and failed to slim down more than once... but ultimately what did it for me was one evening recently when sitting around after tea with my shirt off (was too hot), I took a look at myself and was truly unhappy with what I saw. I used to be so slim, but was fast turning into a tubby buggar. I refused to accept that, and changed my diet. It's worked, and surprisingly fast too. I feel much better, so the diet change is for good. I used to eat BK and McDs too much... Still allow myself a burger now and then, but much less frequent, and no fries or drink (fries are especially bad).

One of the keys: plenty of fruit and vegetables. Stopping eating or living on just lettuce is not the answer! Please don't do this!! It doesn't work, your body goes into nutriet hoarding mode, metabolism comes to a grinding halt and you don't lose weight, just get malnutrition. There's been a couple of models here in the UK die from malnutrion very recently, living on lettuce and exercising too much to get to unrealistic weight goals. Not good at all! Best thing to do is to decrease meal portion sizes and eat smaller meals a bit more often, like soundbelt said. If you snack, eat fruit. If you drink, use sugar free cordial to improve the taste of water. Not everyone's taste, but it works a treat and it's cheap for you and the kids, if you have them.

I could go on, but there isn't enough room on KB

I've taken an "after (I say after but it's an ongoing thing)" photo of myself and I can see the difference. If there's anything anyone would like to discuss, or if you just want to see the after photo (), just PM me.
Believe in yourself, love your life, be positive. You can do it.

[MyGSXF:Me]

Another idea to add to DE's awesome posts..

Breakfast (or another meal) could be replaced with a shake.. either Complan or Vitaplan (same thing.. just slightly cheaper). mix it in a blender with say, a fresh banana.. & swap the fruit each day, for variety. Comes in powder form, just mix with either water or milk, & can get them from the supermarket. easy peasy

Gives you a heap of nutrients etc, fills you up, & is bloody yummy!

[Fat Tony]

I'm a right skinny sod, always have been, always will be. It doesn't matter what I try I can't gain weight... I've done the gym and heavy weight sets, force fed myself all the right things... no impact whatsoever. Actually that's not entirely true, I did manage to gain about 5 kgs over the course of 5 months... then I got a cold, and lost it all again in the space of a week

I've given up with it, and have come to terms with the fact that I'm always going to be this way. It doesn't bother me that much any more, though to be honest I do sometimes feel slightly inhibited when I'm around 'normal' sized people at the pool etc... but at the end of the day... I'm me.

Fitness and health are the things that you should be thinking about... but at the end of the day be happy in who you are

[sunhuntin]

Have you got a picture of your bike ? Thats more important to us fellas. It's not faster than mine is it.

since yours is listed as healing...ill have to say mine is faster. lol.

mygsxf...great posts. i did try councelling a few years ago, but got nowhere. might have to try complan or something. breakfast is one meal i sometimes miss out on. finishing at 7, having tea between 7 - 8pm, means im often not hungry by the time morning arrives. actually...i might take it to work... have dinner at work. thatd be an idea. cheers!

deviant...as always. so cant wait for november!

tony...i think mr burns has some spare muscle for you?

[doc]

Seriously for a change. WALKING, join a club, no stress on joints support from the other tubbies. That is until you metamophosis into your dreamweight. It's true join those that are doin it. I don't have a weight problem, but because I said that don't write me off. Us skinny people all think its about how much you eat. I believe it's about what you burn and maybe type of food you eat. My girls would rather join a gym than mow the lawns or stack firewood sort of stuff. Join a Tramping Club or something find something thats energetic that you will enjoy. My next consultation will not be free I will expect a percentage of your modelling money.

[Deviant Esq]

Only problem with walking is that unless you're powering up a hill it simply does not raise the heartrate enough to constitute good exercise. It can help keep weight off and help tone a little, but you only lose weight up to a point.

Another trick with slimming down is to use low resistance (on things like striders, exercycles etc) and light weights. Longer motion and higher reps with low resistance / light weights tones, whereas high resistance builds muscle. Just something to think about

[MyGSXF:Me]

mygsxf...great posts. i did try councelling a few years ago, but got nowhere

If at first you don't succeed sweets.. try someone else!!!! There are many out there, each with their own style & flair.. shop around.. you don't have to stick with the first one you try. You'll find one you'll 'mesh with'.. then things will happen!!!! don't give up on yourself hon.. you're worth more than that!!!

breakfast is one meal i sometimes miss out on.

you're probably heard it before.. but breakfast is THE most important meal of the day.. it sets your body & brain up with fuel for the rest of the day.. so feed it!!!



Another thing I though of... have you heard of 'Green Prescription"???

It's part of the 'push play' initiative through SPARC www.sparc.org.nz

you get a 'script' from the nurse at the doctors surgery & it doesn't cost. You get a support person who will talk with you about your needs in terms of diet/exercise etc.. & send you a heap of info & contact details for local organisations, clubs, groups, etc.. that may be useful for you. I've not long shifted back to Nelson & wanted info on clubs.. & wana get some exercise.. so I've hooked into GP myself. You get a discount voucher for 3 months, which can get cheaper rates at gyms/pools etc.. & can get it renewed for another 3 months etc.

Have a look on the web site sweets.. it should give you more info.. or your Doctors surgery should be onto it also!!

Jen

[Fat Tony]

tony...i think mr burns has some spare muscle for you?

I've tried editing my post as I appreciate the humour may have come over as me being insensitive... wrote about my experience, submitted it but it's not appeared. Forum seems to be playing up a bit for me at the moment.

The gist of what I was trying to say though was that I've always been a right skinny sod and have tried all sorts to gain weight... none of which worked for me.

My health and fitness are fine, so I've come to terms with the fact that that's just the way I am, and I should just get on with enjoying being me... not worrying about what people think of my skinny twig legs hanging out of my shorts etc

Obviously I don't know you from Adam (well, Eve ) so I'm not really in a place to comment, but for me it's all about accepting who you are. We're all different... as long as your helath and fitness are good what's the problem?

Good luck with it and keep smiling