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Taz
15th October 2010, 18:43
I think that's where one starts heading into the 'should I get a different bike?' scenario. I know where you are coming from as I find mine bloody good offroad (yeah yeah when i'm not falling off hahaha bloody ha) however those tarseal & gravel road cruises to the knarlier stuff is where the KLR excells.
No easy answers as far as I can see
I know we didn't do anything really knarly when I was down but I really enjoyed your KLR. Did everything great. (Apart from the goldwing screen on it)
Taz
NordieBoy
15th October 2010, 19:32
I know we didn't do anything really knarly when I was down but I really enjoyed your KLR. Did everything great. (Apart from the goldwing screen on it)
Taz
My fillings are still rattling from my blast on it when you were on the mighty DR.
The KLR does feel lean up top though.
Taz
16th October 2010, 05:15
The KLR does feel lean up top though.
Yes a little work on the jetting would pay dividends.
Padmei
17th October 2010, 17:58
My fillings are still rattling from my blast on it when you were on the mighty DR.
The KLR does feel lean up top though.
LOL I was thinking you were talking about weight distribution:facepalm:
Jetting & tuning & stuff like that is a bit over my head so if it goes I leave it there.
Did you really find it vibey Nordie? What have you others that have ridden it think? I didn't think it was any different from any other 650 - (The 640A the obvious exception)
Taz can I blow your cover by repeating your comments after your 1st ride???
It went something like " I wish i'd had a ride on one of these before I got the A...":shit:
I know you were only being pleasant to your host but I'll take any compliments:shutup:
stormtrooper
17th October 2010, 18:32
I have been mulling over stripping off all the fairing crap on the front of my klr.
I have a swish headlight off a late model wr450 and a wr450 speedo (or could get a vapour or similar).
For this to work I think the side plastics would have to be replaced by earlier versions and possibly the tank as well. I believe the radiator is different between the pre 08 and post 08 types and this may cause complications.
Is anyone aware of any links to info on people who have done this on their 08+'s or have any constructive comments?
Anyone got any early model bits that might work?
whatever I try would need to be reversible as I may well decide I don't like the change and want to go back to stock.
Your klr was going bloody well through odlins before your trip down south and handled some of the tricky stuff with ease, i think with some good aftermarket bodymods to lighten it up you would be surprised at the differents it makes.
Looking at the bike along side mine yours just looks so much heavyer and bulky, maybe its the differnt faring and the crash bars around it?
Anyway theres lots of aftermarket bits you can get off ebay and from US suppilers and there are some custom rides made from 08s out there on the net that look and handle real nice.
NordieBoy
17th October 2010, 18:40
.Did you really find it vibey Nordie? What have you others that have ridden it think? I didn't think it was any different from any other 650 - (The 640A the obvious exception)
Just the turbulence from the screen getting me just in the middle of the helmet and at 100kph it was lethal.
Woodman
24th October 2010, 08:17
Just put a new t63 on last night and noticed that the bearing that is in the rear sprocket carriage was collapsed . This is the same bearing that collapsed on the NIIS ride and chewed up my swingarm etc andthat embarrasingly meant I had to get a ride home on a trailer.
Does anyone else have trouble with this bearing?
My advice is to check it as it is often overlooked when removing the rear wheel etc as it is in the sprocket hub which often just gets put aside and not seriously looked at.
marks
24th October 2010, 08:25
Just put a new t63 on last night and noticed that the bearing that is in the rear sprocket carriage was collapsed . This is the same bearing that collapsed on the NIIS ride and chewed up my swingarm etc andthat embarrasingly meant I had to get a ride home on a trailer.
Does anyone else have trouble with this bearing?
My advice is to check it as it is often overlooked when removing the rear wheel etc as it is in the sprocket hub which often just gets put aside and not seriously looked at.
its got something to do with you being an animal...
I suspect worn cush drive rubbers can increase the loading on the bearing.
I replaced the bearing on mine (and cush drive rubbers) at 25000km just because of what happened to you.
the new sealed bearings sometimes don't have much grease in them so its best to pop the seals and repack before you put the new one in.
I used to think sealed bearings meant that I can ignore them but I have had to many die on me to not try regular regreasing.
warewolf
24th October 2010, 23:30
Is it on the downhill side when the bike is on the sidestand? That side bearing always suffers more.
Get new seals *and* new spacers for them to seal against. Worn, grooved spacers don't seal.
Don't over-pack the bearing with grease, they are designed to run with only 25-30% of the void full of grease. IME they'll just spit the excess out even though they are only running at 10% of their max rated rpms. A little but often is the trick. River crossings are particularly bad for wheel bearings.
Woodman
25th October 2010, 08:06
I never repack bearings as it can IMHO compromise the seal.
Part of the problem I now suspect with this one is that a heap of the hub got worn away when the first one collapsed and now does not have the protection it should have. A stick or something may possibly have got to the seal. It is not hard to change and they are a real common bearing, and I now carry that one in my toolkit.
warewolf
25th October 2010, 08:16
I never repack bearings as it can IMHO compromise the sealGenerally, I agree with you, but for wheel bearings they get compromised much worse by contamination. Use a small pocket knife to get under the seal, and just lever it out. It will pop out without damage even though they flex heaps as they come out. Don't slide the knife as you could cut the seal.
Padmei
25th October 2010, 19:16
I replaced my one at approx 15K. The mechanic picked it up when replacing the chain - Just another consumerable is what I've heard. I wrapped some MTB tube bits around my cush drive & no probs so far - rubber is rubber isn't it???:sunny:
Padmei
14th December 2010, 20:28
I swapped some labour for a few boxes of KLR parts. They're from an old white, green & blue model so if anyone needs any parts sing out cos after having a good look thru I'll start getting rid of most of it on Trademe.
I have alread scored a carb diaphram ($95 US last time I looked) & an unobtainable front sprocket cover so it has already paid for myself.
Unfortunately most of the motor internals aren't there which is a pity as I would have liked to reassemble it to see how it all works.
So no wheels. bars, frame but lots of electrics & plastics speedo etc.
Woodman
14th December 2010, 20:31
I swapped some labour for a few boxes of KLR parts. They're from an old white, green & blue model so if anyone needs any parts sing out cos after having a good look thru I'll start getting rid of most of it on Trademe.
I have alread scored a carb diaphram ($95 US last time I looked) & an unobtainable front sprocket cover so it has already paid for myself.
Unfortunately most of the motor internals aren't there which is a pity as I would have liked to reassemble it to see how it all works.
So no wheels. bars, frame but lots of electrics & plastics speedo etc.
Is this the tengai? If so has it got a low front guard?
Padmei
14th December 2010, 20:48
Is this the tengai? If so has it got a low front guard?
No I don't think it is a tengai now, just the colours of the same era. No front guard but I have some spare forks.
Woodman
14th December 2010, 21:18
No I don't think it is a tengai now, just the colours of the same era. No front guard but I have some spare forks.
May have to come out for a looksee. One more question though, Is it the handlebar fairing mounted model?, or the frame mounted fairing model like mine and if so have you got the fairing cradle thing that has been bent on mine since the 2 trees incident .
marks
14th December 2010, 21:38
I swapped some labour for a few boxes of KLR parts. They're from an old white, green & blue model so if anyone needs any parts sing out cos after having a good look thru I'll start getting rid of most of it on Trademe.
I have alread scored a carb diaphram ($95 US last time I looked) & an unobtainable front sprocket cover so it has already paid for myself.
Unfortunately most of the motor internals aren't there which is a pity as I would have liked to reassemble it to see how it all works.
So no wheels. bars, frame but lots of electrics & plastics speedo etc.
what sort of nick is the tank in and do you have the shrouds that go forward from the front edge of the tank?
stormtrooper
14th December 2010, 22:38
I swapped some labour for a few boxes of KLR parts. They're from an old white, green & blue model so if anyone needs any parts sing out cos after having a good look thru I'll start getting rid of most of it on Trademe.
I have alread scored a carb diaphram ($95 US last time I looked) & an unobtainable front sprocket cover so it has already paid for myself.
Unfortunately most of the motor internals aren't there which is a pity as I would have liked to reassemble it to see how it all works.
So no wheels. bars, frame but lots of electrics & plastics speedo etc.
I could do with a replacement speedo if you have one, any chance of postng a pic?, do you have the seat?
Padmei
15th December 2010, 07:09
May have to come out for a looksee. One more question though, Is it the handlebar fairing mounted model?, or the frame mounted fairing model like mine and if so have you got the fairing cradle thing that has been bent on mine since the 2 trees incident .
I don't know what model it is in fact I realise now how many parts a ren't there...
what sort of nick is the tank in and do you have the shrouds that go forward from the front edge of the tank?
Tank was rooted & rusted threough so went to the tip with the PO
I could do with a replacement speedo if you have one, any chance of postng a pic?, do you have the seat?
Yep the speedo is there reading 86K with spre speedo cable. Seats there but may keep that.
I will take everything out of the boxes in the weekend & take a few pics so you can see whats there & the cond.
It has a very cool rear RHS melted exhaust shroud.:blink:
NordieBoy
15th December 2010, 07:36
Tank was rooted & rusted threough so went to the tip with the PO
You got rid of the previous owner just 'cause the tank was rooted?
Don't mess with sparkies
:ar15:
Padmei
17th December 2010, 17:59
Went into the local suuki shop today & got a set of handlebars that are pretty much the same as the original KLR bars for $40. They are basic black steel ones but most importantly the height is the same. I tried to find some good ones to replace the bent originals with but only the Renthal enduro High bars are close to the same size & there aren't any in the country.
Cheers for the headsup Woodman.
If anyone wants one the distributor is Forbes & Davies.
Woodman
17th December 2010, 19:34
Went into the local suuki shop today & got a set of handlebars that are pretty much the same as the original KLR bars for $40. They are basic black steel ones but most importantly the height is the same. I tried to find some good ones to replace the bent originals with but only the Renthal enduro High bars are close to the same size & there aren't any in the country.
Cheers for the headsup Woodman.
If anyone wants one the distributor is Forbes & Davies.
Install them without the risers and roll them forward a lot like on mine. Very good for standing.
NordieBoy
17th December 2010, 20:14
Went into the local suuki shop today & got a set of handlebars that are pretty much the same as the original KLR bars for $40. They are basic black steel ones but most importantly the height is the same. I tried to find some good ones to replace the bent originals with but only the Renthal enduro High bars are close to the same size & there aren't any in the country.
Renthal Classics are also good.
Running them on the XR. They're a bit wide and I've already trimmed 2-3cm off each side.
Padmei
18th December 2010, 08:08
Are they 120 - 130 high?
I couldn't find any other then the enduro highs that were as high.
marks
18th December 2010, 08:54
Install them without the risers and roll them forward a lot like on mine. Very good for standing.
a big problem with the new style klr is when you set up the bars for standing they hit the fairing on full lock - it gets even worse if you try and fit bark busters etc.
I have cr hi bend bars on risers rotated well forward and they are a big improvement for standing but are slowly demolishing my fairing...
XF650
18th December 2010, 09:57
a big problem with the new style klr is when you set up the bars for standing they hit the fairing on full lock - it gets even worse if you try and fit bark busters etc.
I have cr hi bend bars on risers rotated well forward and they are a big improvement for standing but are slowly demolishing my fairing...
Go naked then
Padmei
18th December 2010, 12:33
Just fitted the new bars - One of those jobs that is a lot more work than it should be. The new bars are 40mm narrower. I'm unsure now if the fairing will handle the jandle with the relocated barkbusters.
I'm enduroised for summer (& to be honest unless it's really really windy the headlite does a better job than the stock screen at smoothing the airflow.)
Woodman
18th December 2010, 19:06
a big problem with the new style klr is when you set up the bars for standing they hit the fairing on full lock - it gets even worse if you try and fit bark busters etc.
I have cr hi bend bars on risers rotated well forward and they are a big improvement for standing but are slowly demolishing my fairing...
Yep same with my model. I have a windshield made up out of bits of the original fairing that got smashed up, with cutaways for the bars etc but now even that is fowling on the bark busters so the screen has come off. Good thing is now its more naked the buffeting on my head has gone so its way more comfy at speed.
Also now I don't need to move the pegs back as its as comfy as standing now, and still fine sitting.
Crim
18th December 2010, 19:59
.........so its way more comfy at speed.......
which is, as we all know, the natural speed of the KLR
marks
18th December 2010, 20:40
Go naked then
nah
I'm a klr rider
my pecker is likely to get caught in the chain
Woodman
18th December 2010, 22:03
wow:facepalm:
http://www.emigracing.com/
Padmei
19th December 2010, 07:53
Double Wow
NordieBoy
19th December 2010, 09:18
nah
I'm a klr rider
my pecker is likely to get caught in the chain
On your knees Rossi style by your bike again?
Padmei
19th December 2010, 12:46
On your knees Rossi style by your bike again?
That was pathetic Nordie. Refresh your coffee & have another go...
DR650gary
19th December 2010, 20:20
On your knees Rossi style by your bike again?
Nah, pushing it. :yes:
It's a KLR :blink:
Padmei
19th December 2010, 20:54
Very good guys now piss off & start up a DR thread thankyou. We don't want this one going to the basement with the rest of the other DR vs KLR threads.
Padmei
19th December 2010, 20:55
wow:facepalm:
http://www.emigracing.com/
Are you really looking for a fork conversion or just browsing?
Woodman
19th December 2010, 21:56
Are you really looking for a fork conversion or just browsing?
Yeah loooking, but only if the price is right etc. with the oil burning at the moment a 685 kit is probly my next spendup.
DR650gary
20th December 2010, 07:36
Very good guys now piss off & start up a DR thread thankyou. .
Testy testy :blink:
Must be the time of year....or maybe not all adventure riders have a long Pecker:innocent:
warewolf
20th December 2010, 09:19
wow:facepalm:
http://www.emigracing.com/Try to keep up youse fellahs...
Bling city that place.
http://www.emigracing.com/640950O.jpg (http://www.emigracing.com/640950O.jpg)
NordieBoy
20th December 2010, 10:08
See the bling on his rock crawler?
marks
4th January 2011, 20:15
I've been riding the klr the last two days on some fairly lumpy tracks in the mungatooks.
Today in particular I took it some places I had only previously been on a trail bike.
It will tractor up anything - just awesome low down grunt.
I can't think of too many bikes that I could really enjoy riding in moderately lumpy conditions and then really enjoy riding long distances on as well. For me the compromise factor is just about perfect
what an awesome bike and what a great couple of days riding.:yes:
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Padmei
4th January 2011, 20:28
Don't go putting up pics like that. I'm talking myself into selling mine & getting a dirt bike.
NordieBoy
4th January 2011, 20:31
Don't go putting up pics like that. I'm talking myself into selling mine & getting a dirt bike.
Keep remembering how Schmiddy went up that firebreak and think how much better he'd go with better ergos and suspension :yes:
Woodman
4th January 2011, 20:34
don't go putting up pics like that. I'm talking myself into selling mine & getting a dirt bike.
a klr is a dirt bike...............
marks
4th January 2011, 20:46
a klr is a dirt bike...............
exactly :woohoo:
with some sensible suspension and engine mods it will do most things a 'proper' trail bike will do except tight singletrack (which is nowhere to be in the middle of summer unless you like heat exhaustion).
NordieBoy
4th January 2011, 20:52
exactly :woohoo:
with some sensible suspension and engine mods it will do most things a 'proper' trail bike will do except tight singletrack (which is nowhere to be in the middle of summer unless you like heat exhaustion).
What about tight singletrack in the shade?
marks
4th January 2011, 21:16
What about tight singletrack in the shade?
just about all the tight stuff in the mungys is in the trees but it still been getting so hot that its an exhausting place to be (or maybe I'm less fit than I was.....)
Woodman
4th January 2011, 21:21
Hey marks, the commentator at the beach races said that my bike was the quietest one there.
Just thought I'd mention it.:innocent:
marks
4th January 2011, 21:26
Hey marks, the commentator at the beach races said that my bike was the quietest one there.
klr's are known for being very quiet bikes :innocent:
cooneyr
4th January 2011, 21:43
Hey marks, the commentator at the beach races said that my bike was the quietest one there. ...
He also said they were BMW's during the first race.
marks
4th January 2011, 22:20
He also said they were BMW's during the first race.
that's a low blow :shit:
klr's don't look effeminate....
warewolf
5th January 2011, 19:47
klr's don't look effeminate....Nah, they look butch.
In a rugged Lesbian she-wears-the-pants kinda way. :sick:
Padmei
5th January 2011, 19:55
Nah, they look butch.
In a rugged Lesbian she-wears-the-pants kinda way. :sick:
And that's the way we like it peewee:apumpin:
dino3310
5th January 2011, 20:27
And that's the way we like it peewee:apumpin:
he ment there riders
pete376403
6th January 2011, 23:20
I've been riding the klr the last two days on some fairly lumpy tracks in the mungatooks.
Today in particular I took it some places I had only previously been on a trail bike.
It will tractor up anything - just awesome low down grunt.
I can't think of too many bikes that I could really enjoy riding in moderately lumpy conditions and then really enjoy riding long distances on as well. For me the compromise factor is just about perfect
what an awesome bike and what a great couple of days riding.:yes:
I agree with you about the low down grunt - although mine is still a 650 (does the 685 add much torque?) up at karipoti the other day I found it was able to get up a pretty shitty, rutted, steep, loose rock track at about 1500 rpm it just chugged on up.
Would be nice to swap some of the weight for better suspension, though.
marks
7th January 2011, 07:46
I agree with you about the low down grunt - although mine is still a 650 (does the 685 add much torque?) up at karipoti the other day I found it was able to get up a pretty shitty, rutted, steep, loose rock track at about 1500 rpm it just chugged on up.
Would be nice to swap some of the weight for better suspension, though.
Hi Pete
I think the smooth heavily flywheeled low end power delivery is the motors best feature. So often on a heavyish bike in rough conditions a loss of traction means going tits up - much more so than on a trail bike.
I don't think the 685 makes much difference. Uncorking the bike does make a massive difference to low end responsiveness. A stock klr is a bit too 'sleepy' for my tastes.
I'm really enjoying trying to take the klr places that I didn't think it would go. Maybe one day I'll grow some balls and try and get it up cnut hill :shutup:
bart
7th January 2011, 08:01
Maybe one day I'll grow some balls and try and get it up cnut hill :shutup:
Now you're talking....I'll bring the camera....you know, just for the sake of recording the moment....not for the carnage. :shutup:
Seriously, I think the KLR would make it. It just depends how many times you're prepared to drop it in the process :woohoo:
stormtrooper
7th January 2011, 08:28
Hi Pete
I think the smooth heavily flywheeled low end power delivery is the motors best feature. So often on a heavyish bike in rough conditions a loss of traction means going tits up - much more so than on a trail bike.
I don't think the 685 makes much difference. Uncorking the bike does make a massive difference to low end responsiveness. A stock klr is a bit too 'sleepy' for my tastes.
I'm really enjoying trying to take the klr places that I didn't think it would go. Maybe one day I'll grow some balls and try and get it up cnut hill :shutup:
Now you're talking....I'll bring the camera....you know, just for the sake of recording the moment....not for the carnage. :shutup:
Seriously, I think the KLR would make it. It just depends how many times you're prepared to drop it in the process :woohoo:
Dont under estimate the klr i reckon these bikes can just about go anywhere with the right tyres and some simple exhaust and carb mods, your set to go, i almost forgot(and a superman fitness progarm in place)
Hey Marks we will have to try a run through the pram track, you know your way around in there we could try and tackle some of the more differcult tracks on the beasts.
STORMTROOPER
Padmei
7th January 2011, 20:44
The problem I find with them is getting them back up after they've droppped on steep hills. Does your bloody back in.
In saying that I went to help Woodman pick up Big Red the other week & he just plucked it off the ground like it was a kids bicycle - I was hanging on to the back & nearly got flung over the other side of the bike.
Those of you that have been following the Nelson beach race thread may have read how my clutch went at the end of race one.
Over the last couple of days I took the clutch case off & had a look. Now to any of yous that have done this allow 2 days - one to take all the bullshit stuff off & the clutch case & the following day to ponder what can go wrong with such a simple setup, take the clutch basket in & out a dozen times checking for fit & refill your fluids etc.
I couldn't find anything wrong - no glazed steel rings, everything slides nicely, but didn't check warping tho.
I'm left thinking that for some reason the clutch just got too hot & stuck the plates together. I didn't think I was riding the clutch that much.
Anyone else have any ideas?
Also Since I'm changing the coolant s it really necessary to use distilled water? Nelson water although filtered is pretty bad to taste but maybe ok for the engine?
Woodman
7th January 2011, 20:58
So is the clutch working now? Shit maybe you could havr got a few more races in after it had cooled down.
There was that time when we were hooning round that mx track when i dropped mine on the same corner every lap when I physically was unable to pick it up anymore. The sad part was that I then dropped JCs 690 on the same corner and nearly cried when I realsied how light it was.
Padmei
7th January 2011, 21:05
So is the clutch working now? Shit maybe you could havr got a few more races in after it had cooled down.
That's what pissesme off. I think when we tittoed with it all it did was take the leverout of alignment. Reckon it would have cooled & the plates shift apart? Had fresh oil & all that.
There was that time when we were hooning round that mx track when i dropped mine on the same corner every lap when I physically was unable to pick it up anymore. The sad part was that I then dropped JCs 690 on the same corner and nearly cried when I realsied how light it was.
I had nearly forgotten that corner... hehehe.
Oh oh just remembered. If you go into Filco, Chae has a primo pic of you at the races - his flatmate got heaps of shots including all of us. They all knew I was racing (not that I told maaaany people:facepalm:
pooos and wees
marks
7th January 2011, 21:13
Now you're talking....I'll bring the camera....you know, just for the sake of recording the moment....not for the carnage. :shutup:
Seriously, I think the KLR would make it. It just depends how many times you're prepared to drop it in the process :woohoo:
maybe I'll head over and have a 'recce' once it cools off a bit - will post something up lateish this month
Dont under estimate the klr i reckon these bikes can just about go anywhere with the right tyres and some simple exhaust and carb mods, your set to go, i almost forgot(and a superman fitness progarm in place)
Hey Marks we will have to try a run through the pram track, you know your way around in there we could try and tackle some of the more differcult tracks on the beasts.
STORMTROOPER
I think we could spend a really fun day riding the knarlier main tracks in the Mungy's - will contact you in a week or two. Rode the start of the back bogs behind orange hut the other day. the klr handled it fine but I had a few serious pucker moments. Remember?
http://webcoda.com/images/bike/IMG_6751.jpg
The problem I find with them is getting them back up after they've droppped on steep hills. Does your bloody back in.
In saying that I went to help Woodman pick up Big Red the other week & he just plucked it off the ground like it was a kids bicycle - I was hanging on to the back & nearly got flung over the other side of the bike.
Those of you that have been following the Nelson beach race thread may have read how my clutch went at the end of race one.
Over the last couple of days I took the clutch case off & had a look. Now to any of yous that have done this allow 2 days - one to take all the bullshit stuff off & the clutch case & the following day to ponder what can go wrong with such a simple setup, take the clutch basket in & out a dozen times checking for fit & refill your fluids etc.
I couldn't find anything wrong - no glazed steel rings, everything slides nicely, but didn't check warping tho.
I'm left thinking that for some reason the clutch just got too hot & stuck the plates together. I didn't think I was riding the clutch that much.
Anyone else have any ideas?
Also Since I'm changing the coolant s it really necessary to use distilled water? Nelson water although filtered is pretty bad to taste but maybe ok for the engine?
picking up a klr is a 2 person job unless there is no other alternative....
does the clutch work ok now?
I overheated the DT clutch on cnut hill and it was like the clutch springs went really soft and the bike wouldn't move (it was boiling as well) but it all was fine once it cooled down and has been ok since
did you clean out the gauze oil filter while you had the side cover off?
stormtrooper
8th January 2011, 07:45
Sounds like a good plan Mark, i look forward to catching up with you
STORMTROOPER
Morcs
9th January 2011, 08:21
Hey guys, Just bought myself a 09 KLR. Will pick it up as soon as i fix my TLR to complete the trade in (damned suzuki's and their budget electrical systems)
bike seems pretty stock, 7k on the clock, has the standard pipe thats been modified to an almost straight through by the looks. Will get the shop to fit a dynojet kit.
I know the KLR has a couple of issues, wont be doing a lot of off road stuff for a while, maybe the odd gravel road. Oil consumption, and a couple of shit bolts (footpegs and subframe) seem to be a concern. Would like a set of givi crash bars (anyone know the NZ price?) anything else that requires immediate attention?
NordieBoy
9th January 2011, 12:07
This one is quite nice...
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Padmei
9th January 2011, 17:10
anything else that requires immediate attention?
Grease all the swingarm bearings, get a couple of spare rear wheel bearings, Grease steering head bearings, loctite subframe bolts ( all bolts actually) Get some safer footpegs if going anywhere with mud on, loctite footpeg bolts. Cut about 10-20mm off side stand if planning oncarrying luggage as it sits near vertical when loaded & very easy to tip over.
Be careful if going off road & having to do 3 point turns when getting used to riding it - they are extremely top heavy when full & if it gets 3 degrees off vertical it'll drop big time.
GO to klr650.net & checkout the 22cent mod. It involved lifting the needle by shimming it , drilling the slide 7/64ths & opening up the airbox - a must do as it transforms the motor. I put a R1 pipe on mine & sounds great & goes pretty well (Wooodmans older one goes faster tho)
Padmei
9th January 2011, 17:12
This one is quite nice...
228403
Is that a bash plate underneath? Some one likes polishing their bike.
Woodman
9th January 2011, 19:35
This one is quite nice...
228403
What engine is in that? versys?
NordieBoy
9th January 2011, 19:47
What engine is in that? versys?
Yep. Versys/Ninja 650 engine.
Woodman
9th January 2011, 19:51
Yep. Versys/Ninja 650 engine.
Is there a build thread?
NordieBoy
9th January 2011, 20:44
Is there a build thread?
Yes there is <a href=http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=640772>:innocent:</a>
Woodman
9th January 2011, 20:49
Yes there is <a href=http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=640772>:innocent:</a>
Where is it?
BTW you will get sick of this game long before I do:facepalm:
NordieBoy
9th January 2011, 21:30
Where is it?
BTW you will get sick of this game long before I do:facepalm:
Well if you clicked on that innocent looking smiley up there...
:facepalm:
Woodman
9th January 2011, 21:39
Well if you clicked on that innocent looking smiley up there...
:facepalm:
And how was I to know that a smiley can be a linky as well. ?
pete376403
9th January 2011, 21:41
Grease all the swingarm bearings, get a couple of spare rear wheel bearings, Grease steering head bearings, loctite subframe bolts ( all bolts actually) Get some safer footpegs if going anywhere with mud on, loctite footpeg bolts. Cut about 10-20mm off side stand if planning oncarrying luggage as it sits near vertical when loaded & very easy to tip over.
Be careful if going off road & having to do 3 point turns when getting used to riding it - they are extremely top heavy when full & if it gets 3 degrees off vertical it'll drop big time.
GO to klr650.net & checkout the 22cent mod. It involved lifting the needle by shimming it , drilling the slide 7/64ths & opening up the airbox - a must do as it transforms the motor. I put a R1 pipe on mine & sounds great & goes pretty well (Wooodmans older one goes faster tho)
Also - some '08s had electrical issues caused by the wiring loom chafing under the tank near the mounting for the radiator overlow tank. Should have been fixed on the later bikes but it's worth a look.
KLR650.net will be full of dire warnings about the doo (doohickey, aka balancer chain tensioner). While the pre '08s did have some breakages, the problem was more or less addressed in '08 and from there on should be ok.
Ventura do a headlight protector. I have heard replacement lights are in the region of $600. Faring plastics are expensive and there do not appear to be any aftermarket replacements.
If you know anyone who does fibreglass mouldings get patterns made from your plastics while they are still in good condition - you could corner the world market (and I'd buy your first set)
Off roadability is enhanced by going down 1 tooth on the front sprocket, but open road cruising suffers a bit. 4000 - 4500 rpm seems to be the engines sweet spot and with standard gearing this is around 110-120.
NordieBoy
10th January 2011, 06:49
And how was I to know that a smiley can be a linky as well. ?
I thought everybody did?
<a href=http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/>:weird:</a>
dino3310
10th January 2011, 08:00
I thought everybody did?
<a href=http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/>:weird:</a>
I Did:innocent:
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if this was a KLR then i would want one
Morcs
10th January 2011, 16:23
Grease all the swingarm bearings, get a couple of spare rear wheel bearings, Grease steering head bearings, loctite subframe bolts ( all bolts actually) Get some safer footpegs if going anywhere with mud on, loctite footpeg bolts. Cut about 10-20mm off side stand if planning oncarrying luggage as it sits near vertical when loaded & very easy to tip over.
Be careful if going off road & having to do 3 point turns when getting used to riding it - they are extremely top heavy when full & if it gets 3 degrees off vertical it'll drop big time.
GO to klr650.net & checkout the 22cent mod. It involved lifting the needle by shimming it , drilling the slide 7/64ths & opening up the airbox - a must do as it transforms the motor. I put a R1 pipe on mine & sounds great & goes pretty well (Wooodmans older one goes faster tho)
Cheers. as for the 22c mod, is that the same equivalent as doing a dynojet kit pretty much? I dont touch jetting myself so its easier to get the shop to just throw the kit in. Its got a gutted stock pipe on it already, but it sounds very average compared to my old motard.
Padmei
10th January 2011, 16:57
Cheers. as for the 22c mod, is that the same equivalent as doing a dynojet kit pretty much? I dont touch jetting myself so its easier to get the shop to just throw the kit in. Its got a gutted stock pipe on it already, but it sounds very average compared to my old motard.
I don't know what a dyno jet kit is but sounds pretty cool & hi techy. Look up klr50net & there are pretty good easy to follow pics. If I was to buy another one I'd def get rid of the stock pipe. They are really heavy & pretty restricted - even gutted ones. I'd get a 2nd hand sportbike stock pipe (heaps around, as they are always replaced with aftermarket pretty cheap compared to a new performance pipe) & get a exhaust shop to modify it to fit. The mods are very easy to do - takes bugger all time & really makes a difference.
I'd also really really recommend getting some crash bars if you're even remotely thinking about going slightly offroad - and you will want to cos as soon as you start going down gravel roads you' start wondering where all those tracks go to:yes: Apparently the Givibars have a cross bar between the outside bars that stops them from bending in & hitting the fairings.
Did I mention loctite?:shutup: Also the headlite cover is a very good call - I forgot to mention that as the replacements are in the $600-700s.
Don't be too disappointed with the performance compared to the motard - they'll go a lot more places
Woodman
10th January 2011, 18:20
Don't worry about 22c mod if doing a dynojet kit.
And don't read too much internet.
DR650 pegs fit good . Mines the older model so check first.
pete376403
10th January 2011, 21:42
If you're planning on doing rides of any reasonable distance, don't be too quick to fit a noisy pipe - what sounds way cool for the first 15 minutes can be very tiring toward the end of a long day (and these bikes are very capable of long days - the seat is pretty good, the ergos are good and the fairing does reduce wind blast)
PS the 22 cent mod is actually the 2 cent mod - thats the cost of a single washer to put under the carb needle clip.
pete376403
10th January 2011, 21:45
This one is quite nice...
228403
that is fucking nice! What the factory should do, could steal a lot of buyers from the BMW 800
Morcs
11th January 2011, 19:06
I don't know what a dyno jet kit is but sounds pretty cool & hi techy. Look up klr50net & there are pretty good easy to follow pics. If I was to buy another one I'd def get rid of the stock pipe. They are really heavy & pretty restricted - even gutted ones. I'd get a 2nd hand sportbike stock pipe (heaps around, as they are always replaced with aftermarket pretty cheap compared to a new performance pipe) & get a exhaust shop to modify it to fit. The mods are very easy to do - takes bugger all time & really makes a difference.
I'd also really really recommend getting some crash bars if you're even remotely thinking about going slightly offroad - and you will want to cos as soon as you start going down gravel roads you' start wondering where all those tracks go to:yes: Apparently the Givibars have a cross bar between the outside bars that stops them from bending in & hitting the fairings.
Did I mention loctite?:shutup: Also the headlite cover is a very good call - I forgot to mention that as the replacements are in the $600-700s.
Don't be too disappointed with the performance compared to the motard - they'll go a lot more places
Got a price on the givi crash bars today, not bad at $300.
Blue loctite and ventura headlight cover are on the list too.
A new pipe will go on the backburner till other stuff is sorted.
Im a bit paranoid about the doo now after reading sooo many threads on KLR650.net...
and what good screens do we have available to us in NZ? I want a taller one, but not one of those really tall - look really stoopid screens. The Zero gravity's are nice but cant remember if anyone imports them.
marks
11th January 2011, 19:36
If you're planning on doing rides of any reasonable distance, don't be too quick to fit a noisy pipe
why not???
the bleeding from the ears stops after the first day or so and not too many car windows shatter as you drive past.....
Got a price on the givi crash bars today, not bad at $300.
Blue loctite and ventura headlight cover are on the list too.
and what good screens do we have available to us in NZ? I want a taller one, but not one of those really tall - look really stoopid screens. The Zero gravity's are nice but cant remember if anyone imports them.
the Givis seem a real sharp price
I paid $450-$480 for the SW Motechs and I've had to rebend/reweld(they crack) them many times
I've tried 3 screen combinations and all they do is shift the buffeting into your face. Seems klr screens either look really gay and tall or don't work
a pipe and uncorking make a huge difference :eek:
NordieBoy
11th January 2011, 19:48
a pipe and uncorking make a huge difference :eek:
And it works wonders with the bike too! :eek:
Padmei
12th January 2011, 06:59
the Givis seem a real sharp price
I paid $450-$480 for the SW Motechs and I've had to rebend/reweld(they crack) them many times
I've tried 3 screen combinations and all they do is shift the buffeting into your face. Seems klr screens either look really gay and tall or don't work
a pipe and uncorking make a huge difference :eek:
Exctly the same sentiments mark.
I have put the big harley looking plastic ghey looking plastic sail on mine & in Winter / cooler riding it is very good (bugger what it looks like - I'm toasty warm). In summer with the enduroised front headlite thing I have to say it works better than the stock screen at redirecting air movement. I think the fault with the stock is it directs all the front air in a nice wall straight at your eyes.
Don't get hung up on the doo man, the new doos are good but the spring is most probably stretched too much or worse case broken. The big problem is the little bits of springs get in places they shouldn't. I replaced mine (dealer did for free) with the 12K service. It's not a biggie to do yourself if you have the rotor puller - I have Woodmans here if you need it- & the manual.
Morcs
12th January 2011, 07:08
why not???
the bleeding from the ears stops after the first day or so and not too many car windows shatter as you drive past.....
I own a TLR...:msn-wink:
Don't get hung up on the doo man, the new doos are good but the spring is most probably stretched too much or worse case broken. The big problem is the little bits of springs get in places they shouldn't. I replaced mine (dealer did for free) with the 12K service. It's not a biggie to do yourself if you have the rotor puller - I have Woodmans here if you need it- & the manual.
My next service will be the 12k, will get a shop to do the doo then. much easier :)
pete376403
12th January 2011, 12:41
If you are going to get the shop to look at the doo, you should get a new spring beforehand.
EagleMike is the source http://eagle-m-e.com/productlist.htm
be aware that the road to farkle heaven is road is long and paved with money traps, and once you start going down that road ...
Woodman
12th January 2011, 19:40
If you are going to get the shop to look at the doo, you should get a new spring beforehand.
EagleMike is the source http://eagle-m-e.com/productlist.htm
be aware that the road to farkle heaven is road is long and paved with money traps, and once you start going down that road ...
If only kawasaki could get into klr farkles they would make a fortune.
here is a list of farkles that I have done to Big Red as padmei calls her.
Not a pissing contest but I need to write them down somewhere or I'll forget.
Starting from the front. (sort of)
Intiminators
Vibranators
Meheir handgaurds
Vapor speedo
Mirror and choke relocation bracket (since broken)
Stubebaker bash gaurd
IMS 26 litre tank
K and N air filter.
22 cent mod
T mod
PCV mod
Drilled airbox
Raising links
WR rear blinkers.
Rear master cylider gaurd.
DR footpegs
Steel unbreakable gear lever.
Possibly more.
Padmei
12th January 2011, 20:10
You suck poser boy
Woodman
12th January 2011, 20:58
You suck poster boy
Fixed.
ftcr
marks
12th January 2011, 21:36
If only kawasaki could get into klr farkles they would make a fortune.
here is a list of farkles that I have done to Big Red as padmei calls her.
Not a pissing contest but I need to write them down somewhere or I'll forget.
Starting from the front. (sort of)
Intiminators
Vibranators
Meheir handgaurds
Vapor speedo
Mirror and choke relocation bracket (since broken)
Stubebaker bash gaurd
IMS 26 litre tank
K and N air filter.
22 cent mod
T mod
PCV mod
Drilled airbox
Raising links
WR rear blinkers.
Rear master cylider gaurd.
DR footpegs
Steel unbreakable gear lever.
Possibly more.
feck you are just getting started wee man
my stream of piss is considerably longer
Crim
13th January 2011, 05:31
Seems to me that for every $1,000 invested in farkles the value of the bike rises approx $000,1 :facepalm:
marks
13th January 2011, 07:36
Seems to me that for every $1,000 invested in farkles the value of the bike rises approx $000,1 :facepalm:
if you are lucky the farkle might add 10% of its cost to the bike resale.
I suspect you'd be way better off returning the bike to as stock as possible to sell and then flogging off the farkles one by one on tard me
Woodman
13th January 2011, 17:53
feck you are just getting started wee man
my stream of piss is considerably longer
Yea i gott admit when written down its not as long as i thought. Dissapointing really, so if Mrs Woodman doesn't get made redundant tomorrow I may order the 685 kit before I bleed the planets oil reserves dry.
GPS MAN
14th January 2011, 18:15
Hey Mark - found that 16 tooth sprocket on klr650.com....you know the drill ...not much in US dollars but, once here :stupid: money!
Lowers the rpm's about 500 at 100 k's....like you said " great for the road, sucks offroad"..:shit:
marks
14th January 2011, 19:21
Hey Mark - found that 16 tooth sprocket on klr650.com....you know the drill ...not much in US dollars but, once here :stupid: money!
Lowers the rpm's about 500 at 100 k's....like you said " great for the road, sucks offroad"..:shit:
Hiya Wade
I found the jump to second as bit much off road with the 16T so I've gone back to the 15t. Its slowed me down a bit on the open road as I tend to ride at the same revs (5k)
bout time for another RRRR?
the klr riders anthem.....
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and the dr650 riders anthem
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Taz
16th January 2011, 07:11
KTM riders anthem.
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GPS MAN
16th January 2011, 10:46
I am ready for another ride .....need to dust the cobwebs off the klr and give it a little tlc:jerry:
Keep me posted should you and the gang venture out.........
bart
16th January 2011, 12:55
KTM riders anthem.
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Yeah, look at the posers, they all look a little.... 'faggy'. :bleh:
Woodman
16th January 2011, 12:58
'faggy'. :bleh:
This coming from a DR650 rider .
bart
16th January 2011, 13:04
This coming from a DR650 rider .
I've technically got no working bike at the moment....hold on....that makes it even worse. :eek:
bart
16th January 2011, 16:22
Actually, there's a Steppenwolf song that sums up DR650's .
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:Offtopic:
marks
16th January 2011, 17:44
KTM riders anthem....
actually - given the average ktm riders over inflated sense of self importance I think this is closer to the mark....
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I've technically got no working bike at the moment....hold on....that makes it even worse. :eek:
yes
your dr definitely jizzed in its pants didnt it....
I am ready for another ride .....need to dust the cobwebs off the klr and give it a little tlc:jerry:
Keep me posted should you and the gang venture out.........
I'm keen to do a backwards RRRR ride towards the end of the month if your interested?
Box'a'bits
16th January 2011, 17:52
Actually Mark, I found it interesting that you KLR riders needed to keep reminding yourselves that you were 'men'. That's usually something I thought would be assumed....Perhaps I was wrong :facepalm:
Given that uncertainty, what kind of man are you? A man's man? A Frank Spencer type of man? Or perhaps you're a man that is good with other men
marks
16th January 2011, 18:21
Actually Mark, I found it interesting that you KLR riders needed to keep reminding yourselves that you were 'men'. That's usually something I thought have throught would be assumed....Perhaps I was wrong :facepalm:
Given that uncertainty, what kind of man are you? A man's man? A Frank Spencer type of man? Or perhaps you're a man that is good with other men
Actually I was thinking of the awesome film that the song is from
the KLR is the real Rock'nRolla
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I was looking for a video to represent BMW riders but the only village people videos I could come up with weren't gay enough
so what about the last weekend in Jan for a RRRR?
a one day or a 2 day?
Box'a'bits
16th January 2011, 20:08
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Yup, last weekend in Jan would work for me. One or two days. If we did 2 days perhaps we could swing out wider & do some new roads....
That looks like fun
18th January 2011, 10:54
I was looking for a video to represent BMW riders but the only village people videos I could come up with weren't gay enough
so what about the last weekend in Jan for a RRRR?
a one day or a 2 day?[/QUOTE]
Oi :Police: I respectfully request we be left out of this bullshit festival :bleh:
Moki
18th January 2011, 16:17
Lowers the rpm's about 500 at 100 k's....like you said " great for the road, sucks offroad"..:shit:
Took Gonzo to the Burt last year after just fitting a new chain and 16 tooth front. Ticks over at about 3800 doing 100kms. Nice
pete376403
18th January 2011, 19:22
I was looking for a video to represent BMW riders but the only village people videos I could come up with weren't gay enough
so what about the last weekend in Jan for a RRRR?
a one day or a 2 day?
Oi :Police: I respectfully request we be left out of this bullshit festival :bleh:[/QUOTE]
Thats easy - stop posting in a thread that is titled "for KLR riders out there"...
Padmei
18th January 2011, 19:34
Just been reading back thru this thread. It used to be quite informative & people were doing things to their bikes. Have we all reached that state of KLR Nirvana where they have attained a higher state & no longer require wokring on.
pete376403
18th January 2011, 19:44
Like Harleys, KLRs are never finished. There is always another farkle.
I'm currently looking for replacement fairing and side covers. Several major offs have left is looking very second hand. Don't appear to be anyone in the owrld making aftermarket plastics for the 08+ models. Tried contacting Hayes (the diesel KLR people) as the bikes they advertise are based on 08+ but do not use the fairing of side covers. Never heard anything back.
I'd have a go at making moulds if i had a set of undamaged items. Could corner the world market
marks
18th January 2011, 19:51
Oi :Police: I respectfully request we be left out of this bullshit festival :bleh:
spoil sport :bleh:
funny how there are several well defined marque stereotypes to poke fun at....
BMW oil head riders - boring prestige seekers
BMW air head riders - fanatic sub species - more interested in the latest bean can mod than riding
KLR riders - tight arse, middle aged and slow
KTM riders - egotistical meat beaters but unfortunately often fast
DR riders - gay and boring (that's a difficult combo to master - but they do it well)
did I miss offending anyone?
marks
18th January 2011, 19:57
Just been reading back thru this thread. It used to be quite informative & people were doing things to their bikes. Have we all reached that state of KLR Nirvana where they have attained a higher state & no longer require wokring on.
says he who is contemplating deserting his roots :weird:
plenty of mods still to do - put on rox risers and bark busters and move sceen/fairing forward 50mm, get seat recovered (torn) and repadded. If money was no object then new forks, 705+port+fcr )
NordieBoy
18th January 2011, 20:06
did I miss offending anyone?
Yamahaha?
Honda?
marks
18th January 2011, 20:43
Yamahaha?
Honda?
there's not really a 'type' of honda or yamaha adventure rider is there?
Padmei
26th January 2011, 06:43
Woodman can you remember the bearing numbers for the rear wheel? I want to get some before I pull the wheel off.
marks
26th January 2011, 07:10
Woodman can you remember the bearing numbers for the rear wheel? I want to get some before I pull the wheel off.
sorry to disappoint you but the klr wheel wont fit the air head
all-balls klr bearing kits with all 3 rear bearings p/n 251056 $20 from Tracktion in chch ph 03 374 3502 email sales_@_tracktion.co.nz
why didn't you take the klr to the db1k?
Box'a'bits
26th January 2011, 08:42
why didn't you take the klr to the db1k?
Self explanatory really. The Airhead is a much better bike for that trip :weird:
(assuming its guts stay on the inside)
marks
26th January 2011, 09:01
Self explanatory really. The Airhead is a much better bike for that trip :weird:
(assuming its guts stay on the inside)
clearly in Padmei case it wasn't
I'm not questioning the relative merits of the bikes - they are very close in many areas - more the relative reliability based on apparent condition - did I put that politely enough?.
shouldn't you be painting the house?
will you be done by the weekend of 5th/6th Feb?
Padmei
26th January 2011, 17:27
sorry to disappoint you but the klr wheel wont fit the air head
all-balls klr bearing kits with all 3 rear bearings p/n 251056 $20 from Tracktion in chch ph 03 374 3502 email sales_@_tracktion.co.nz
why didn't you take the klr to the db1k?
3 bearings????
Where does the 3rd one go?
I want to get some from Nelson tomm or Fri so I can do a ride in the weekend. I'll take the wheel off tonite.
I tossed up taking both bikes & want to make sure the KLR's clutch is ok before taking it away for long rides. Also I hadn't replaced the rear bearings.
I thought I better bite the bullet & take the BMW for a decent ride otherwise it'll sit in the garage looking cool but being unused.
In hindsight although the BMW spewed out it's oil I'm glad I took it otherwise i'd havedone the challenge part which everyone 'said' they enjoyed however Imayhave spat the dummy & rooted my back having to pick it up all the time.
marks
26th January 2011, 18:00
3 bearings????
Where does the 3rd one go?.
two in the wheel and one in the cush drive. The cush drive bearing takes a beating and doesn't last anywhere as long as the 2 wheel bearings.
Ask woody - he's an expert cush drive bearing rooter
Padmei
26th January 2011, 18:58
How do you know when it's rooted? Just took the wheel off & all seem pretty ok. I'll take it to my bike shop & get them to check them all.
JATZ
26th January 2011, 19:24
How do you know when it's rooted? Just took the wheel off & all seem pretty ok. I'll take it to my bike shop & get them to check them all.
Does it feel "notchy" at all when you turn it ? or sound "rumbly". If so then it's roooted :eek:
How many k's have you done ? the bearings don't last forever. While your there.... see if you can get new seals aswell, pays to do the lot if you can, IMHO
Padmei
26th January 2011, 19:54
Does it feel "notchy" at all when you turn it ? or sound "rumbly". If so then it's roooted :eek:
How many k's have you done ? the bearings don't last forever. While your there.... see if you can get new seals aswell, pays to do the lot if you can, IMHO
Thanks jatz. They seem to me to be ok but will get checked out.
It was great to catch up & ride with Crim in the weekend. I took his pre 07 bike for a spin while he tried to get his head around the sideways rumble of the BMW. It runs sweet & reinforced how nice they are to ride. - Over Dansies etc - not the really knarly bits:niceone: Obviously as a KLR rider was a bloody good bloke.
Woodman
26th January 2011, 21:30
Woodman can you remember the bearing numbers for the rear wheel? I want to get some before I pull the wheel off.
Yep 6204,6003 and the sprocket carrier is 6004. Get 2RS (2 rubber seals) suffix bearings as they have both seals already on them. Like Marks says always do the sprocket carrier, in fact check it often. i actually carry one on board.
BTW my oil consumption figure for the db1k was 8 litres. :crybaby: and that was riding easy. Houston we have a problem.
But on the bright side, because i was not revving the bike much to reduce oil consumption, it used bugger all fuel, so offset the cost of oil. In fact it used 9 litres less between Richmond and hamner compared to last year. have I mentioned this before?:sleep:
Padmei
27th January 2011, 06:46
Yep 6204,6003 and the sprocket carrier is 6004. Get 2RS (2 rubber seals) suffix bearings as they have both seals already on them. Like Marks says always do the sprocket carrier, in fact check it often. i actually carry one on board.
BTW my oil consumption figure for the db1k was 8 litres. :crybaby: and that was riding easy. Houston we have a problem.
But on the bright side, because i was not revving the bike much to reduce oil consumption, it used bugger all fuel, so offset the cost of oil. In fact it used 9 litres less between Richmond and hamner compared to last year. have I mentioned this before?:sleep:
Ohh goody - back at home & still have to hear about fuel consumption:wait:
Shoot me now...
marks
27th January 2011, 07:53
BTW my oil consumption figure for the db1k was 8 litres. :crybaby: and that was riding easy. Houston we have a problem.
:yes::yes::yes:
http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/flash_product_image/img_var_trans.asp?prod_id=5049292
drool (http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=5049292)
do the thermobob while you have the bike apart
Woodman
27th January 2011, 19:33
:yes::yes::yes:
http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/flash_product_image/img_var_trans.asp?prod_id=5049292
drool (http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=5049292)
do the thermobob while you have the bike apart
yep 685 kit will be on the way soon, but i still want to experiment around a bit to see if I can stop the overheating. The thermobob as far as I can tell doesn't stop overheating, it just regulates the temp better and is more helpful in cold weather than in hot. Will do some research.
NordieBoy
27th January 2011, 19:49
yep 685 kit will be on the way soon, but i still want to experiment around a bit to see if I can stop the overheating. The thermobob as far as I can tell doesn't stop overheating, it just regulates the temp better and is more helpful in cold weather than in hot. Will do some research.
Did it overheat before the new tank?
Woodman
27th January 2011, 19:58
Did it overheat before the new tank?
interesting point, and yes it did but not as often. the thing is is its getting worse. Actually it doesn't overheat, its just that the fan comes on more oftenerer which generally stops it heating up any more.
I am going to run a tee with a smaller hose between the top hose after the thermostat down to the bottom hose after the waterpump (bypass) to see if that helps regulate it and stop the mad fluctuations. maybe that will stop it getting hot too.
Come to think of it this is what a thermobob does. maybe they do work, but my way will be cheaper.
Padmei
27th January 2011, 20:15
When you guys replaced the bearings did you heat them up in the oven prior to installing?
The mech had a look & saw there was looseness in one of the inner races against the rubber seal. I was expecting them to cost about $30 - 40 each(all for about $30 something) so it's good somethings are cheap. The bearing guy asked what hind of revs they do I told him no more than 150Kph:doh:
marks
27th January 2011, 20:17
yep 685 kit will be on the way soon, but i still want to experiment around a bit to see if I can stop the overheating. The thermobob as far as I can tell doesn't stop overheating, it just regulates the temp better and is more helpful in cold weather than in hot. Will do some research.
that's the 705 kit as the 685 doesn't come with a new liner
the large fluctuations in running temp can cause the 685 kit to make the now much thinner standard cylinder liner warp so the thermobob is highly recommended with the 685.
get the 705 kit
I double dare you
NordieBoy
27th January 2011, 20:25
When you guys replaced the bearings did you heat them up in the oven prior to installing?
Bearings in freezer, not oven. Shrink them not expand them.
Woodman
27th January 2011, 20:34
that's the 705 kit as the 685 doesn't come with a new liner
the large fluctuations in running temp can cause the 685 kit to make the now much thinner standard cylinder liner warp so the thermobob is highly recommended with the 685.
get the 705 kit
I double dare you
The other option is the 705 liner with the 685 piston, thats the strongest option. Boy do I really miss having an engine shop now or what?
I,m not that interesred in more horsepower, the little it has now gets me in enough trouble, and also the 705 kit requires more mods and that could effect fuel economy. Did I tell you about the fuel economy on the dusty butt?
pete376403
28th January 2011, 19:56
Fuel or oil economy?
Anyway the thermobob won't cure overheating - it can't because it doesn't add any more cooling capacity. What it does do is make the more get up to operating temp quickly and once there, maintains that temp more closely.
If you need better cooling maybe you could look at a 08+ radiator - from what I have seen of the pre 08s, their rads are smaller.
What sort of coolant are you using?
Woodman
28th January 2011, 20:14
Fuel or oil economy?
Anyway the thermobob won't cure overheating - it can't because it doesn't add any more cooling capacity. What it does do is make the more get up to operating temp quickly and once there, maintains that temp more closely.
If you need better cooling maybe you could look at a 08+ radiator - from what I have seen of the pre 08s, their rads are smaller.
What sort of coolant are you using?
i will put in a thermobob or similar, mainly to regulate the temp,a few Euro cars have an inline type thermostat with the bypass built in that is the same principle as the thermobob as far as I can see.
Interesting about the 08+ radiator, or add another one to the other side if I could be assed. Using prestone antifreeze at the moment.
pete376403
28th January 2011, 20:43
The KLR600 had twin rads. No idea about sizes tho'.
I too would like the 705 liner with a 685 piston, but a few other things are getting in the way of that plan. Might be able to get the 685 past the financial controller.
marks
29th January 2011, 08:59
The KLR600 had twin rads. No idea about sizes tho'.
I too would like the 705 liner with a 685 piston, but a few other things are getting in the way of that plan. Might be able to get the 685 past the financial controller.
if you do the 685 without liner then if you ever have problems and wear it out you can stick the liner in then. Mines got about 25k km on the 685 piston in the overbored standard barrel and has never needed oil between changes. Of late I have noticed a sight oily discolouration around the muffler end but no apparent drop in oil level on the sight glass.
RedKLR650
29th January 2011, 10:05
that's the 705 kit as the 685 doesn't come with a new liner
the large fluctuations in running temp can cause the 685 kit to make the now much thinner standard cylinder liner warp so the thermobob is highly recommended with the 685.
get the 705 kit
I double dare you
Bugger Marks, :whistle:
I didn't read this properly and thought you meant you were Daring me.......:killingme
I just got off the phone to Schnitz Motorsports earlier this morning :mega:
705 kit ( and a couple of other minor farkles ) shipped today ( still friday afternoon there ) so should be here in a week or so..... :drool: $500USD for kit, $65 freight :banana:
Lucky the kiwi dollar is still good at present........
Purchased a couple more cool farkles from the US before Christmas ( some of which I showed to the Dusty Butt KLR riders so I'm about to have a big Farkling session soon)
:facepalm:
I'll post results of before and after tests on some of the changes ( Hi Flow header pipe, HID lighting etc, etc :tugger: )
Stu
Padmei
29th January 2011, 12:19
Can you get a lightening kit shipped over?
postage should be a refund
RedKLR650
29th January 2011, 12:44
Can you get a lightening kit shipped over?
postage should be a refund
Er that was lighting kit, not lightening kit......:clap:
But I know what you're saying
The 705 piston is apparently approx 88gms lighter than stock, does that count ( Oops, forgot about the extra weight of the heavier cylinder liner :weep:
Apparently the exhaust is the easiest way to loose up to 2-3 kilos....:drool:
Padmei
29th January 2011, 17:19
Apparently the exhaust is the easiest way to loose up to 2-3 kilos....:drool:
Have I got a deal for you...
Morcs
29th January 2011, 18:43
Picked up my 09 KLR today. loving it.
Spent the morning with the heat gun taking the decals off, now its just plain black :D
I have the jetkit going in soon, ZG DB screen has been ordered. A bigger top box and crash bars are next on the list.
Woodman
29th January 2011, 18:47
Picked up my 09 KLR today. loving it.
Spent the morning with the heat gun taking the decals off, now its just plain black :D
I have the jetkit going in soon, ZG DB screen has been ordered. A bigger top box and crash bars are next on the list.
Welcome to the Hotel California.
pete376403
29th January 2011, 19:01
Have I got a deal for you...
Whachu got?
marks
29th January 2011, 19:18
Picked up my 09 KLR today. loving it.
Spent the morning with the heat gun taking the decals off, now its just plain black :D
I have the jetkit going in soon, ZG DB screen has been ordered. A bigger top box and crash bars are next on the list.
welcome to klr corner :yes:
the conversation doesn't always make sense but its fun....
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Morcs
30th January 2011, 19:28
im assuming its not normal for the KLR to get mass front end wobbles at around 140?
Im guessing its tyre related, front tyre is reasonably knobbly, a golden boy trail tyre (whatever that is). noticed the max speed rating is 130. i laughed.
Will change the front tyre soonish. quite like the look of the anakees. Anyone have any recommendations? Ill be doing mostly road (i like to be able to ride reasonably hard) but want something capable if i do decide to venture off track a little bit. will tackle as much gravel as i can find though :)
Padmei
30th January 2011, 19:39
I've ridden Nordie's DR650 & Jatz' DRz 350 with Shinko 705s & have to say they are amazingly good tyres for gravel & road but not wet muddy crap. Depends on how much you want to spend. Peruse the tyre thread at the top as most adv bikes are similar.
As for the head shaking - what was the road surface like. On the Dusty butt there were nearly quite a few tank slappers due to the slippery gravel:shit: Otherwise the bearings could be loose.
Padmei
30th January 2011, 19:42
Gonzo will be up for sale soon as I'm going ghey.
So if you know anyone that wants one set up for adventure riding let me know. I would be interested in trading down to a DRZ 400 road registered.
Cue howling & nashing of teeth:facepalm:
Woodman
30th January 2011, 19:55
Mine (2005) had Anikkes when I got it, they were really good and I rate them on road and gravel. Actually surprisingly grippy off road, but on muddyness just ride slow.
padmei, of you get a drz , what would you take on the DB? Schmidt or the drz?? (pre odd name)
marks
30th January 2011, 21:47
im assuming its not normal for the KLR to get mass front end wobbles at around 140?
mine gets a nasty weeve from about 130 up
different tires didnt seem to change it.
I don't often go that fast so i've never bothered to try and fix it
marks
31st January 2011, 08:38
provided they have enough ground clearance and enough traction....
in this case an E07 doesn't provide enough traction
this is where I looped the DT and bent the subframe....
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Box'a'bits
31st January 2011, 12:38
provided they have enough ground clearance and enough traction....in this case an E07 doesn't provide enough traction
If that was yesterday good job the puncture ended any chance of play. The IRC is balder than a bald thing. :yes:
Still some Padmei miles in it provided I run it exclusively on the sides...
marks
31st January 2011, 16:52
If that was yesterday good job the puncture ended any chance of play.
that bit was the 'bonus track' which we wouldn't have taken you to
this is what you missed out on.
About halfway through the video the track opens out a bit and is just awesome fun
let us know when you want to go for a look.
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Padmei
31st January 2011, 16:57
If that was yesterday good job the puncture ended any chance of play. The IRC is balder than a bald thing. :yes:
Still some Padmei miles in it provided I run it exclusively on the sides...
Maybe that's why my wheel bearings go - riding with the bike leaned over to one side to use up the tread on the sides.
BTW no one is allowed to walk thru the centre of the carpets at my place - just around the edges to save wear & tear:facepalm:
Padmei
31st January 2011, 17:07
padmei, When you get a drz , what would you take on the DB? Schmidt or the drz?? (pre odd name)
Fixed. (My ride on Sat was enough to convince me that to keep myspinesemi vertical I need a liter bike.)
Well funnily enough that's something I've been thinking of since looking at the pics of Day 2:crybaby:
I'm wondering if this years DB was an adv ride or a trail ride with road sections? No negative connotations infered so roll down your shirt sleeves :innocent:
The road sections were great & easy however on most of the trails 'normal' DS adv bikes (ie 650ish) struggled.
Hmmm...
BTW KLRs still rule if you can only have one bike!!!
Woodman
31st January 2011, 19:31
Yup the DB was more technical and traily which is a good thing IMHO.
The day 1 challenge section wasn't necessarily a struggle for the bikes, but more so the riders as it was quite physical and sustained. I think even on a DRZ you would have come down thinking you had been in your first weights session of the year.
You would have got over on Schmidt, look what Shrek, Underground and the GS8hundy boys did.
BTW how much does Schmidt weigh?
justabum
7th February 2011, 16:49
that bit was the 'bonus track' which we wouldn't have taken you to
this is what you missed out on.
About halfway through the video the track opens out a bit and is just awesome fun
let us know when you want to go for a look.
Hi Marks.
That's a lovely track. Where about's in the country are you? If you don't mind be asking.
My bikes in Foxton at the moment.
Cheers
marks
7th February 2011, 17:29
Hi Marks.
That's a lovely track. Where about's in the country are you? If you don't mind be asking.
My bikes in Foxton at the moment.
Cheers
Hi
These videos were taken up above Waikanae in the Taraua Forest Park
the track is called Odlins Rd or Waiotauru Rd
Eddieb
7th February 2011, 17:53
Yup the DB was more technical and traily which is a good thing IMHO.
The day 1 challenge section wasn't necessarily a struggle for the bikes, but more so the riders as it was quite physical and sustained. I think even on a DRZ you would have come down thinking you had been in your first weights session of the year.
You would have got over on Schmidt, look what Shrek, Underground and the GS8hundy boys did.
BTW how much does Schmidt weigh?
But did you talk the Underground or the GS8hundy boy he was with afterwards, both were fucked and the GS8hundy boy (Sorry not sure who you were) said he shouldn't have been up there on that bike.
Eddieb
7th February 2011, 17:54
Yup the DB was more technical and traily which is a good thing IMHO.
The day 1 challenge section wasn't necessarily a struggle for the bikes, but more so the riders as it was quite physical and sustained. I think even on a DRZ you would have come down thinking you had been in your first weights session of the year.
You would have got over on Schmidt, look what Shrek, Underground and the GS8hundy boys did.
BTW how much does Schmidt weigh?
But did you talk to Underground or the GS8hundy boy he was with afterwards, both were fucked and the GS8hundy boy (Sorry not sure who you were) said he shouldn't have been up there on that bike.
Woodman
7th February 2011, 20:46
But did you talk to Underground or the GS8hundy boy he was with afterwards, both were fucked and the GS8hundy boy (Sorry not sure who you were) said he shouldn't have been up there on that bike.
yea but I think they were happy they done it though. In a marathon sort of way.
cooneyr
7th February 2011, 20:54
But did you talk the Underground or the GS8hundy boy he was with afterwards, both were fucked and the GS8hundy boy (Sorry not sure who you were) said he shouldn't have been up there on that bike.
GS8hundy boy = Mountie on KB. It was pretty tiring but if you took your time it shouldn't have been that bad. Riding rocks like that just needs a little bit of momentum (not speed) and good balance. I find standing helps immensely with the balance. I rode the whole of the Lammerlaw standing during the Dusty and most of the Awakino Challenge standing during the pre ride.
Waihou Thumper
8th February 2011, 04:52
Hi
These videos were taken up above Waikanae in the Taraua Forest Park
the track is called Odlins Rd or Waiotauru Rd
Marks, I see you took your mirrors off. Good thinking, it sure is nice and low and overgrown. Is the track an 'out and back'? Or can you get through to another road somewhere further down Akatarawa? I see there are tracks north to Ngatiawa but they look like walking tracks only? Just looking from my Topo maps here.
Nice blat though, I bet it would be a good challenge in the thick of winter...:)
marks
8th February 2011, 07:31
Marks, I see you took your mirrors off. Good thinking, it sure is nice and low and overgrown. Is the track an 'out and back'? Or can you get through to another road somewhere further down Akatarawa? I see there are tracks north to Ngatiawa but they look like walking tracks only? Just looking from my Topo maps here.
Nice blat though, I bet it would be a good challenge in the thick of winter...:)
Odlins Rd is the perfect balance of nasty and fun.
The track is about 20km long and is an in-out job. Gets about halfway to Otaki Forks. The track is fine in winter as its very stony with little clay. The river at the end gets too nasty to cross though.
I nearly always take my mirrors off as I'm paranoid about breaking the clutch or brake perth. and as I dumped the bike twice on that ride it was just as well I did
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RedKLR650
8th February 2011, 09:23
Hi All,
Having a good year work wise and with the Kiwi-US exchange rate being good at present, I'm about to embark on a WHOLE lot of farkling on the trusty KLR:yes:
( Awaiting another 4 parcels to arrive from the states before I post photos of all the 'bits' pre-farkling......... ) :gob:
Anyway, I know and understand what the PCV mod is, the problem is I have no idea where to source one of the actual PCV valves to splice into the tube :facepalm:
I figured that surely one of you that haunts this space and/or ADVrider might know where I can find a source of this elusive valve :blink:
Thanks in advance, Cheers Stu:scooter:
pete376403
8th February 2011, 16:12
I used one from a v6 Commodore - just walked around Pick-a-Part looking at likely candidates. Most PCVs are right-angled and fit into rubber grommets in the rocker/cam cover so not what I had in mind - the Commodore one screws into the inlet manifold and has a hose which goes to the cam cover. I got a bunch of them and after washing them all out with petrol, used the best one (given a blow / suck test)
On reflection, having the valve inserted into the airbox is not goign to be as successful as if it went to the inlet manifold, if only because there isn't going to be any vacuum in the airbox (it's open to the atmosphere). In the car application it's going to have high vacuum on one side.
Also note the breather hole spigot into the airbox is about 25mm dia outside, but the hole itself is more like 6mm diameter. Removing the airbox to open this hole up is quite a mission. Unless there is a better way I had to remove the subframe, with all that that entails.
However I believe that either the valve or opening up the breather hole did help.
Crim
8th February 2011, 19:05
G'day
Been trying to build these myself for ages - but did all the price comparisons and stuff and was cheaper to get them built for me :facepalm: - Engineers over the road from work, told them what I wanted - showed them a few piccies and they wipped these up in a couple of hours - rang me for input before welding :woohoo: - all good!
Will use them as is for a while and then go back for adjustments (if required) - but they're looking good at the moment and hug (5mm off) the plastics so can stay on full time. Only thing so far is that I will have to remove one to get to the air filter (two bolts on the passenger footpeg loosen the third and then twist will do it)
Padmei
8th February 2011, 20:04
Good stuff mate.Now you gotta plan that aussie trip to try them out!!
Woodman
8th February 2011, 22:03
I had one in mine but I took it out as i noticed oil sitting on the top of itTherefore I decided that oil was getting out past it to a point, but could not get back in. Presumably any oil that goes up the breather should get sucked back down as well.
Anyway since I removed it there has been no sign of oil in the breather, and I even put a smaller diameter tee in the breather that vented to atmosphere to check whether any oil actually was going up the breather. Even after the dusty butt and the bike using 8 litres of oil the breather is oil free. (there is obviously another issue)
The other issue with the pcv valve is that the seals can pucker in and out with each cycle because the pressure inside the crankcase is not as equalized than with a free breathing setup.
pete376403
8th February 2011, 22:20
The standard KLR (only familiar with on '08 but doubt if things are too different in other years) is not a "free-breathing setup". The small size of the breather hole into the airbox is probably (should have tested this with an air pressure guage before modifying) going to result in a positive crankcase air pressure at anything above idle.
Old brit singles used to have a big bore (1/2" or bigger) breather hose vented straight to the atmosphere otherwise they would pressurise the crankcase and leak like a sieve. Slightly more modern designs (eg KLR) don't leak becuase of better seals and gaskets so the pressure goes either up past the rings or down the valve guides and takes a bit of oil with it.
Will try and get hold of a sensitive pressure guage and try a few tests.
justabum
9th February 2011, 19:58
Hi
These videos were taken up above Waikanae in the Taraua Forest Park
the track is called Odlins Rd or Waiotauru Rd
Thanks.
I'll have to get my maps out and have an explore.
young1
12th February 2011, 17:27
I thought you would be interested in this site, it has a comparison of the KLR to the F800GS
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/284/9164/Motorcycle-Article/Dr--Fraziers-Globe-Killer-KLR-Part-2.aspx
marks
12th February 2011, 18:28
I thought you would be interested in this site, it has a comparison of the KLR to the F800GS
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/284/9164/Motorcycle-Article/Dr--Fraziers-Globe-Killer-KLR-Part-2.aspx
we'd rather that your sort didn't make a habit of posting in this thread as it lowers the tone of things..:yes:
Interesting comparison - thanks for the link - not many people compare bikes where one costs twice as much as the other
tri boy
12th February 2011, 18:47
we'd rather that your sort didn't make a habit of posting in this thread as it lowers the tone
Yes, I'm free Mr Granger.
mince,mince,mince,trip............., recover, mince, mince,mince
Crim
12th February 2011, 18:49
I thought you would be interested in this site, it has a comparison of the KLR to the F800GS
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/284/9164/Motorcycle-Article/Dr--Fraziers-Globe-Killer-KLR-Part-2.aspx
well that buggers up my Lotto win plan - trade in KLR for f800GS - seems like I would be trading down for five times the price :confused:
marks
12th February 2011, 18:57
Yes, I'm free Mr Granger.
mince,mince,mince,trip............., recover, mince, mince,mince
see what I mean
we let one bit of trash in and a flood of white trash scum follows.....:facepalm:
warewolf
12th February 2011, 19:20
I thought you would be interested in this site, it has a comparison of the KLR to the F800GS
each fell into the category of advanced adventure models.Bwahahahahahahahaaahaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaahhhaaa !
KLR. Advanced. :killingme
marks
12th February 2011, 21:23
KLR. Advanced. :killingme
I'd have to admit that that's just about an oxymoron
its a bit like saying ... ooh I dunno... smooth 640 ?
Padmei
12th February 2011, 21:53
I'd have to admit that that's just about an oxymoron
its a bit like saying ... ooh I dunno... smooth 640 ?
burn......
warewolf
12th February 2011, 22:07
smoothSmooth is relative... like incest.
Padmei
12th February 2011, 22:16
well that buggers up my Lotto win plan - trade in KLR for f800GS - seems like I would be trading down for five times the price :confused:
$3000 worth of extras to begin with? I couldn't believe any thing after reading that... (apart from the seat comparison) I think it was just written to make cause a bit of friction between those that can afford an expensive advbike & those that either can't afford or choose not to spend a lot of money. End of the day both are gonna get you there in style & smoothly.
NordieBoy
12th February 2011, 22:31
According to TopGear, Albanian Rozzers ride 640 Adv's.
:scooter:
young1
12th February 2011, 22:36
Oh Lordie what have I done!! I think it be best if I stay with my "kind" UP in the KTM threads. Ha ha
pete376403
12th February 2011, 23:09
According to TopGear, Albanian Rozzers ride 640 Adv's.
:scooter:
Rarotongan rozzers rider KLRs - Blue ones. Saw them being kitted up with disco lights and shit at Motorad.
GPS MAN
13th February 2011, 07:23
I'll stick with my Slow/Cheap and not so frugal KLR....:scooter:
marks
13th February 2011, 07:42
Oh Lordie what have I done!! I think it be best if I stay with my "kind" UP in the KTM threads. Ha ha
yes there's nothing like a good inter-marque shitstorm to help pass a quiet evening :yes:
feel free to pop back into this thread on a bi annual basis....(which is twice a soften as we invite dr650 riders to post here)
I'll stick with my Slow/Cheap and not so frugal KLR....:scooter:
The New Advanced KLR650 - 25yr old technology, duff rings, crap rubber that turns to dust on exposure to sunlight, plastic protected radiator etc etc - its fat low and slow but what a great adventure bike :woohoo:
bart
13th February 2011, 11:30
(which is twice a soften as we invite dr650 riders to post here)
"cough cough"
Oh bugger :facepalm:.....see you in 2014 :bye:
Padmei
13th February 2011, 15:00
I have sorted thru the boxes of KLR spare parts & you can see them here
http://s710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/bikes/KLR%20parts%20for%20sale/
If you are after anything PM me & I'll sell it to you otherwise they'll go on trademe.
RedKLR650
14th February 2011, 12:43
:scooter:
yep 685 kit will be on the way soon, but i still want to experiment around a bit to see if I can stop the overheating. The thermobob as far as I can tell doesn't stop overheating, it just regulates the temp better and is more helpful in cold weather than in hot. Will do some research.
:woohoo: Parcel #1 arrived from the states by courier today, and it appears to have something about 705cc written on the box :shit: :facepalm: :innocent: :shutup: :bye:
Stu
NordieBoy
14th February 2011, 14:22
:scooter:
:woohoo: Parcel #1 arrived from the states by courier today, and it appears to have something about 705cc written on the box :shit: :facepalm: :innocent: :shutup: :bye:
Bourbon?
:drinkup:
Eddieb
14th February 2011, 15:12
:scooter:
:woohoo: Parcel #1 arrived from the states by courier today, and it appears to have something about 705cc written on the box :shit: :facepalm: :innocent: :shutup: :bye:
Stu
Once done you lot should get together and do some 650, 685, 705 drags and things, that'd get some interest on advrider.
RedKLR650
14th February 2011, 15:16
Once done you lot should get together and do some 650, 685, 705 drags and things, that'd get some interest on advrider.
I'm investigating putting the standard one on the Dyno before I start farkling..........:facepalm:
Would be nice to get some before and after figures :shutup:
Stu :scooter:
Crim
14th February 2011, 16:29
I'm investigating putting the standard one on the Dyno before I start farkling..........:facepalm:
Would be nice to get some before and after figures :shutup:
Stu :scooter:
Mate - I am into my second hundred weight of popcorn waiting for you to start farkling :corn: :corn: :corn: :corn:............................. bring it on!!!!:woohoo:
pete376403
14th February 2011, 21:24
I'm investigating putting the standard one on the Dyno before I start farkling..........:facepalm:
Would be nice to get some before and after figures :shutup:
Stu :scooter:
Would also be good to compare the numbers you get with these from Patman Racing.
http://www.patmanracing.com/klrdyno.htm
Have you or are you getting the cylinder head modified to take advantage of the 705?
RedKLR650
14th February 2011, 21:52
Would also be good to compare the numbers you get with these from Patman Racing.
http://www.patmanracing.com/klrdyno.htm
Have you or are you getting the cylinder head modified to take advantage of the 705?
That ( Patmans test results ) certainly made interesting reading :shit:
Does anyone know why he never did a writeup after the 705 upgrade ? :shutup:
Hadn't even considered doing a head upgrade yet, although there are some hot cams arriving in one of the other parcels due to arrive anyday ::woohoo:
I'll let you lot know when all of the bits turn up as I'm not going to start before everything is here ( I could maybe even scratch up a few of those photo thingies of the farkles before and after too )
Cheers, Stu
warewolf
14th February 2011, 22:54
Put a 625cc kit in it and let us know how it goes :innocent:
marks
15th February 2011, 08:48
Put a 625cc kit in it and let us know how it goes :innocent:
lets see...
1/ 625cc - great mid range and top end and no fillings
or...
2/ 685/705 and nice smoooth usable low end grunt and no top end
I'll take option 2 thank you :yes:
Padmei
15th February 2011, 16:49
I hadn't heard about the 625kit. What's up with that? Why go down in ccs? Better componentsorsomething?
NordieBoy
15th February 2011, 18:02
I hadn't heard about the 625kit. What's up with that? Why go down in ccs? Better componentsorsomething?
It changes your bike to a vibrating orange...
Box'a'bits
15th February 2011, 18:04
I hadn't heard about the 625kit. What's up with that? Why go down in ccs? Better componentsorsomething?
Exactly that....:facepalm:
Padmei
15th February 2011, 19:07
Oh ah I see it was a joke. hahaha excellent.
Hey I know lets go into a KTM circlejerk thread & let them know what we think of their bikes & smirk & stuff - man that would be hilarious
(still don't get the joke tho...)
marks
15th February 2011, 20:36
Oh ah I see it was a joke. hahaha excellent.
Hey I know lets go into a KTM circlejerk thread & let them know what we think of their bikes & smirk & stuff - man that would be hilarious
(still don't get the joke tho...)
Are you slowing down mentally as you become more airheadier and less KLRista?
GPS MAN
19th February 2011, 09:23
As I approach the big 50...I know I am slowing down mentally.....
Now, what was I doing here:wacko:
NordieBoy
19th February 2011, 10:37
As I approach the big 50...I know I am slowing down mentally.....
Now, what was I doing here:wacko:
Take your time. It'll come to you.
GPS MAN
20th February 2011, 08:57
I am on a KLR...I am always taking my time......slow but show:bye:
Padmei
26th February 2011, 16:16
Kia Ora KLRistas out there.
I have loaded some stuff on to trade me if you're interested. Woodman I hav a very nice looking headlite sitting here for youm since your last one couldn't handle a few glow in the dark stickers.
If you know anyone wanting to purchase my KLR for a very cheap price then please pass on my details.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=357618740&ed=true
Woodman
26th February 2011, 18:14
I will pick it up this week some time, unless working in CHCH. Will call or text first.
My beast is back together again so is ready for riding. Will have to persevere with oil burning for the moment.
junkmanjoe
26th February 2011, 18:38
have you added air tanks for deep puddle diving...:scooter:
Padmei
26th February 2011, 19:09
I will pick it up this week some time, unless working in CHCH. Will call or text first.
My beast is back together again so is ready for riding. Will have to persevere with oil burning for the moment.
I have a spare barrel & head we can do some experiments with
Waddayaknow about forging titanium pistons?
I bought another set of R1 pipes today at the swap meet. needless to say they were a lot lot cheaper than the first set I bought:facepalm: I may need to buy some more bikes to have a fleet of R1 noiscycles
NordieBoy
26th February 2011, 19:29
I bought another set of R1 pipes today at the swap meet. needless to say they were a lot lot cheaper than the first set I bought:facepalm: I may need to buy some more bikes to have a fleet of R1 noiscycles
Hmmm...
Wonder how they'd go on the TT?
Woodman
26th February 2011, 20:12
have you added air tanks for deep puddle diving...:scooter:
No but possibly need oxygen tanks for my brain sometimes:facepalm:
Nordie? what have you got in the emporium of many bike parts in the way of headlight assemblies etc??
NordieBoy
26th February 2011, 21:39
Nordie? what have you got in the emporium of many bike parts in the way of headlight assemblies etc??
Bugger all really.
Padmei got my spare UFO one.
There's a DR headlight but no mounts or plastics as they're on the DR and in the bin.
You could go retro cool and do a single 6" round one.
Woodman
26th February 2011, 21:58
Bugger all really.
Padmei got my spare UFO one.
There's a DR headlight but no mounts or plastics as they're on the DR and in the bin.
You could go retro cool and do a single 6" round one.
was thinking along those lines
NordieBoy
26th February 2011, 22:08
was thinking along those lines
You could get one from Repco probably.
Woodman
27th February 2011, 07:00
You could get one from Repco probably.
Have been looking through the catalogues and there is a retro fit 7 inch polycarb insert and the backing bit that would work. can also get the round frames like the baja designs ones that look nice too (black or chrome). Not made for bikes but if I used the frame mounts and made a bracket then it should work ok, although it may stick out a bit more than a handle bar mounted light.
Morcs
1st March 2011, 21:27
anyone know where i can get a 16t sprocket for me KLR?
thought id put some posts of mine up.
Mods so far
Uni two stage filter, desnorkeled airbox
gutted pipe
acerbis supermoto front fender
headlight guard
givi crash bars
zero gravity tinted screen
tinted indicator lenses (loves tamiya model paint)
bigger (43l) top box
got the preload cranked to 5, and dropped the forks 8mm and i can throw it around almost like a motard on twisty roads now :)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4958/dscf1974k.jpg
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1466/dscf1995b.jpg
http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/6310/dscf1998.jpg
Eddieb
2nd March 2011, 18:15
Spare parts.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-358580653.htm
pete376403
2nd March 2011, 20:08
Looks like the infamous doohickey (old style) has broken - balancer chain is hanging loose, so bits of the doo have possibly been caught up in the cam chain and the rest, as they say, is history.
marks
2nd March 2011, 20:31
thought id put some posts of mine up.
that is one sexy looking beast :yes:
Spare parts.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-358580653.htm
hmmm
I might pop up and have a look at that.
A dead klr has to be worth the same as a running dr
On a completely different note I've just done 1500km with some of the new mk3 pivot pegs fitted to the klr. They are a really worthwhile improvement. Make standing much more comfortable and you feel much more connected to the bike. like fitting spd's to a mountain bike.
Eddieb
2nd March 2011, 20:37
On a completely different note I've just done 1500km with some of the new mk3 pivot pegs fitted to the klr. They are a really worthwhile improvement. Make standing much more comfortable and you feel much more connected to the bike. like fitting spd's to a mountain bike.
Pivot Pegz rock, some will be going onto the DR at some stage.
On that note, whats the difference between the mark 2's and 3's? I have seen some places online actively selling both at different price points. I had mark 2's on the PD.
marks
2nd March 2011, 21:17
Pivot Pegz rock, some will be going onto the DR at some stage.
On that note, whats the difference between the mark 2's and 3's? I have seen some places online actively selling both at different price points. I had mark 2's on the PD.
60mm wide is, I think, the only difference. When the peso store has been recharged some will be going onto the trailbike as well
Woodman
2nd March 2011, 21:25
Spare parts.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-358580653.htm
yea it would be handy to have, but most of the things I have broken have been replaced with better stuff, and some of the stuff isn't even broken yet.
Wheels would be nice though.
justabum
7th March 2011, 11:09
anyone know where i can get a 16t sprocket for me KLR?
thought id put some posts of mine up.
Mods so far
Uni two stage filter, desnorkeled airbox
gutted pipe
acerbis supermoto front fender
headlight guard
givi crash bars
zero gravity tinted screen
tinted indicator lenses (loves tamiya model paint)
bigger (43l) top box
got the preload cranked to 5, and dropped the forks 8mm and i can throw it around almost like a motard on twisty roads now :)
Nice looking bike. The new front guard changes the look completely.
Is that a new end cap on a standard exhaust with the guts taken out?
Woodman
7th March 2011, 21:24
233876233877
Got sick of my wonky fairing so nakered it a bit. \
This is the first rough draft. has potential, but some tidying would be better.
The light is mounted to the frame not the forks.
Crappy pics, but you get the general idea.
Crim
7th March 2011, 21:29
be interested on some feedback on wind with the new look
:corn:
Woodman
7th March 2011, 21:34
be interested on some feedback on wind with the new look
:corn:
The brief ride i went on the wind noise and buffeting was a lot less. The old fairing directed wind at my head which was annoying.
Also wouldn't wheelstand up the drive
Fatigue on long trips may be an issue though, but will keep you posted.
BTW Crim, have you ever tried riding with the screen removed? way quieter , less buffeting etc. Give it a go.
marks
7th March 2011, 21:50
Got sick of my wonky fairing so nakered it a bit. \
I like it
rat bike meets mad max meets ural
get a supermoto front fender
get some decent bars and different mirrors
if money was no object I'd be getting a headlight like bmwnuts's 8' baja designs unit
Crim
7th March 2011, 21:59
BTW Crim, have you ever tried riding with the screen removed? way quieter , less buffeting etc. Give it a go.
Will do, my man - seems a bit of a design fault :scratch: having to take the device that is supposed to lessen buffeting and noise off to lessen buffeting and noise :blink:
Howie
7th March 2011, 22:00
if money was no object I'd be getting a headlight like bmwnuts's 8' baja designs unit
You Mean one that actually lights the road up at night :facepalm:
Woodman
7th March 2011, 22:29
I like it
rat bike meets mad max meets ural
get a supermoto front fender
get some decent bars and different mirrors
if money was no object I'd be getting a headlight like bmwnuts's 8' baja designs unit
I will keep you posted on a lowcost version that i have been investigating through my work channels. Baja thingy
BTW, just ordered the 685 kit. yay
marks
13th March 2011, 17:56
Thought I'd better check out the klr to make sure its running right for next weekends RRRRR
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Woodman
13th March 2011, 19:34
In case your interested
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Dont ask me why the pics are all over the show.
Pulled my engine apart this arvo, bloody hell klrs are easy to work on, nothing awkward at all, it just about fell apart. Anyway the only things i saw that were symptomatic of oil burning was that there was a pool of oil on top of the piston, and that the piston has been dusted. Not sure if the dusting has caused the oil burning or it was when I had to ride it with no filter for a while after drowning it up serpentine, then only washing it in water at Allex and not oiling it for the rest of the trip to fairlie. Its a K&N and maybe they aren't as good in dust as some suggest.
The bore looks good although I will get it measured to see if it has gone out of round because of the temperature fluctuations I get. I have also ordered a thermobob and will try and get a radiator too as i reckon mine is only working at about 80% efficiency because of the hourglass shape it is after several offs prior to fitting the ims tank.
The head is well coked up, but I haven't got a valve compressor so can't check them out yet. valve stem seals are coming with the 685 kit so will replace them as well, hopefully the valve guides are ok.
Padmei
13th March 2011, 19:51
In case your interested
234367234368
Dont ask me why the pics are all over the show.
Pulled my engine apart this arvo, bloody hell klrs are easy to work on, nothing awkward at all, it just about fell apart. Anyway the only things i saw that were symptomatic of oil burning was that there was a pool of oil on top of the piston, and that the piston has been dusted. Not sure if the dusting has caused the oil burning or it was when I had to ride it with no filter for a while after drowning it up serpentine, then only washing it in water at Allex and not oiling it for the rest of the trip to fairlie. Its a K&N and maybe they aren't as good in dust as some suggest.
AHEM they have had a bad rep from all the KLR sites as I informed youat the time of purchase. God I love being able to sayI told you so - makes me feel muchmore smarter than usual
The bore looks good although I will get it measured to see if it has gone out of round because of the temperature fluctuations I get. I have also ordered a thermobob and will try and get a radiator too as i reckon mine is only working at about 80% efficiency because of the hourglass shape it is after several offs prior to fitting the ims tank.
The head is well coked up, but I haven't got a valve compressor so can't check them out yet. valve stem seals are coming with the 685 kit so will replace them as well, hopefully the valve guides are ok.
Do you need any extra engine bits? I've still got the bucket of crap here.
BTW I'm after another kickstand for GONZO if anyone has one lying around.
Woodman
13th March 2011, 19:56
Do you need any extra engine bits? I've still got the bucket of crap here.
BTW I'm after another kickstand for GONZO if anyone has one lying around.
All looks pretty good really, but you never know. You may be right about the k and n, not sure whether to get a pre filter now or just put the foamy one back in.
Also if anyone has a good radiator pref post 08 i would be interested.
GPS MAN
14th March 2011, 15:57
Hey Mark....by the looks of your ride vid..you should be ready for the RRRR:drool:
By the way, got the Ricor parts in my forks....made a huge difference:clap:
Thanks
gav24
14th March 2011, 19:18
Thought I'd better check out the klr to make sure its running right for next weekends RRRRR
Man we're lucky living so close to that playground aye Mark!
Wonder what will change when the logging starts soon...?
marks
14th March 2011, 20:45
Man we're lucky living so close to that playground aye Mark!
Wonder what will change when the logging starts soon...?
the logging starts today in the area at the end of the valley.
The road we ride along in the first 2 minutes of the video is where they will bring the logs out and the hillclimb in the last 8 minutes is where they will be logging
we went there yesterday to say goodbye to an area we have have an immense amount of fun in :(
and yes he hill is steeper tan it looks..
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andy mac
15th March 2011, 11:47
:not: Congrats Marks on getting the KLR up number 1 hill. Are you satisfied now or is number 2 or Cnut hill next?
marks
15th March 2011, 19:15
:not: Congrats Marks on getting the KLR up number 1 hill. Are you satisfied now or is number 2 or Cnut hill next?
thanks - was happy to get up with no drops (saved those for later in the day...)
I'll have a go at number 2 if it stays dry enough but it will probably result in me doing numbers 2's :baby:
gav24
15th March 2011, 20:16
That track is (was:() Mungy-tastic!:clap:
I especially like the end - you can see my house from there!
I'm hoping that after the logging there will be some new trails cut....
Hoping for a silver lining...
Taz
17th March 2011, 19:18
thanks - was happy to get up with no drops (saved those for later in the day...)
I'll have a go at number 2 if it stays dry enough but it will probably result in me doing numbers 2's :baby:
What camera are you using?
marks
17th March 2011, 20:10
What camera are you using?
contour HD 1080P
which was full of dust when then these videos were taken
it also seems to make what felt lumpy at the time look totally smooth....:baby:
ADVGD
17th March 2011, 20:40
and yes he hill is steeper tan it looks..
Nice job boys, good vid :niceone:
wee pirate
27th March 2011, 20:18
Hey KLR riders, has anyone made a custom storage compartment in the rear left faring? I love to see some pictures or get some ideas
Padmei
27th March 2011, 20:37
Hey KLR riders, has anyone made a custom storage compartment in the rear left faring? I love to see some pictures or get some ideas
I used it once to house a chainoiler bottle. Everything gets covered with crap under there. On 650.net they seem to put tool tubes under there. Try something & post some pics.
Woodman
30th March 2011, 21:56
Don't tell Mrs Woodman but my 685 kit is starting to cost a bit.
Got a letter from the lovely folk at customs today saying that my parcel from Schnitz racing will be held there until I send them $103 in gst. Well i suppose we gotta pay for the earthquake somehow.
Should be here by the weekend.
NordieBoy
31st March 2011, 06:29
Don't tell Mrs Woodman but my 685 kit is starting to cost a bit.
Got a letter from the lovely folk at customs today saying that my parcel from Schnitz racing will be held there until I send them $103 in gst. Well i suppose we gotta pay for the earthquake somehow.
Should be here by the weekend.
Exempt from duty but not gst...
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