Street Stock 250cc 4-stroke twins

[mossy1200]

pro light twins (http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Street_Stock_250cc_4_Stroke_Twins.pdf) still the same just wordier, sweet as

Is your pipe ally

Modifications Allowed
All front fork internals must remain as originally supplied by the machines
manufacturer. Quality and quantity of the oil in forks is free to change.
The height and position of the front fork in relation to the top yoke (fork crown) is
free.
a. Slip on muffler Alloy or Stainless steel only, original headers must be retained.

[ajturbo]

The new "finalised "rules for this class is now up on www.mnz.co.nz
cool... just in time for the vic LAST round next week....

[SS90]

Is your pipe ally

Modifications Allowed
All front fork internals must remain as originally supplied by the machines
manufacturer. Quality and quantity of the oil in forks is free to change.
The height and position of the front fork in relation to the top yoke (fork crown) is
free.
a. Slip on muffler Alloy or Stainless steel only, original headers must be retained.

Hmmm, that is a good point!

Chaos, it would be a shame to have your points taken off you later in the series (you are of course currently second overall, and that is pretty damned good actually), it is unlikely to happen, but it may well be worth swapping that muffler.

All things being equal, it would take a true ASSHOLE to protest that, but you never know aye....... some rich dad might front up with his spoilt brat kid and be out for all the points they can get (it's been done before.....)

[chaos rider]

Hmmm, that is a good point!

Chaos, it would be a shame to have your points taken off you later in the series (you are of course currently second overall, and that is pretty damned good actually), it is unlikely to happen, but it may well be worth swapping that muffler.

All things being equal, it would take a true ASSHOLE to protest that, but you never know aye....... some rich dad might front up with his spoilt brat kid and be out for all the points they can get (it's been done before.....)

ive already asked and it is alowed. the bike is totaly koshar to the rules. now they said nothing about rims right? thinking of saving up for bst rims (carbbon fiber)

[White trash]

now they said nothing about rims right? thinking of saving up for bst rims (carbbon fiber)


You're right, it did say nothing about wheels. Which means....


All items not mentioned in the following articles must remain as originally produced by the
manufacturers remain fitted and operational for that homologated model. The parts and service
manuals for the homologated models will be used as reference to confirm standard specifications.

Sooooo, no. Spending 4K on heels wouldn't really be in the spirit of the class anyway now would it.

[chaos rider]

You're right, it did say nothing about wheels. Which means....



Sooooo, no. Spending 4K on heels wouldn't really be in the spirit of the class anyway now would it.

bugger cuz if could nock off 10kgs from each tire with carbon rims, if you use the rule of 8 for sprung parts its like removing 80kgs a tyre.
blackstone tek (http://www.blackstonetek.com/Inertia.php)

[puddytat]

You got to remember that the whole reasoning behind this class is to keep cost down & to attract young riders who may have the goods to go further.
I think the rules are good....they'll keep the costs down so that "Dad Average"
can maybe get his Kid going & if he cuts the custard then sponsors & Clubs can identify them early on & the put thier wieght behind them...
Being 45 doesnt help my chances, but I firmly believe that ITS NEVER TO LATE TO HAVE A HAPPY CHILDHOOD:yes:

[chaos rider]

You got to remember that the whole reasoning behind this class is to keep cost down & to attract young riders who may have the goods to go further.
I think the rules are good....they'll keep the costs down so that "Dad Average"
can maybe get his Kid going & if he cuts the custard then sponsors & Clubs can identify them early on & the put thier wieght behind them...
Being 45 doesnt help my chances, but I firmly believe that ITS NEVER TO LATE TO HAVE A HAPPY CHILDHOOD:yes:

well im a late starter too but i dont have dad at all for custard. so im hasling hyosung nz, fingers crossed the factry signs me. my chances are very high aparantly. but dont count your revs before the lights.

i have to work fast to get good lol

[Str8 Jacket]

my chances are very high aparantly.

And so am I.... apparently.

[gatch]

And so am I.... apparently.

Me 3 man, I love fridays :D

[sil3nt]

Is the GPX allowed under the rules or not? I read somewhere that the front wheel size makes it ineligible but im too lazy to going searching around again.

[White trash]

I'm thinking I might give this class a nudge actually. Should be some humour.

[puddytat]

I'm thinking I might give this class a nudge actually. Should be some humour.

& wont require selling your offspring....

[White trash]

& wont require selling your offspring....
Be happy if I could get twenny bucks for them to be honest.......

[mossy1200]

Be happy if I could get twenny bucks for them to be honest.......
Dollar reserve auction is the best way to go with that.

[ajturbo]

You got to remember that the whole reasoning behind this class is to keep cost down & to attract young riders who may have the goods to go further.
I think the rules are good....they'll keep the costs down so that "Dad Average"
can maybe get his Kid going & if he cuts the custard then sponsors & Clubs can identify them early on & the put thier wieght behind them...
Being 45 doesnt help my chances, but I firmly believe that ITS NEVER TO LATE TO HAVE A HAPPY CHILDHOOD:yes:
i started road racing at 44.....

[ajturbo]

Be happy if I could get twenny bucks for them to be honest.......
so thats $300.....then

[puddytat]

Is the GPX allowed under the rules or not? I read somewhere that the front wheel size makes it ineligible but im too lazy to going searching around again.

Is it 21" or something?

[RDjase]

i started road racing at 44.....


I did at 36, cant be bothered with road riding much now


Bummer about the rain at your 1st meeting chaos, my 1st meeting was wet as well, there was 3 red flags in my 1st race(lots of start practice tho lol) and the meeting got cancelled the race after. Had heaps of dry ones now mate.:niceone:

Whan are you get them shinkos off and getting your nice dunlops on?

And your thread has made over 1000 post's:banana:

[sil3nt]

Is it 21" or something?Can't even find the thread where it was mentioned but there was something making 16" wheels ineligible. Or maybe im just making shit up again :rolleyes:

I think this would be a great way for me to get into racing :yes:

[puddytat]

Yeah I cant remember where I saw it either, maybe it was in the "proposed" rules for the class on MNZ.....didnt see nuffing about it in the finalised ones.
I do remember in the proposed rules that it seemed to only mention 17"...

I have just sent in my entry for the Greymouth street races....will be running in F3. Nice....will be racing with the likes of Codgeyracer (Glen Williams) who apart from the start I hopefully wont see again till the flag...thats my goal, try not to get lapped by him, he's insanely quick.

[chaos rider]

I did at 36, cant be bothered with road riding much now


Bummer about the rain at your 1st meeting chaos, my 1st meeting was wet as well, there was 3 red flags in my 1st race(lots of start practice tho lol) and the meeting got cancelled the race after. Had heaps of dry ones now mate.:niceone:

Whan are you get them shinkos off and getting your nice dunlops on?

And your thread has made over 1000 post's:banana:

well im all good for starts sat next to ken all the way through jenian, and jumped past 3 rows on the grid off the start, they kaned us first chance they had but im confedent with my starts, starts and late braking are my strong points so far.

as for the shinkos im giving them a send-off on 25th, its my bd on the 23 and im having a party on the 25th so ill be doing a bd burnout. then put the dunlops on for the 15th of nov for my next a.r.t day:clap:

[chaos rider]

hey hey check it out


hyosung nz pics (http://www.hyosung.co.nz/photo.php?id=anytime4aca474eaf141)
my bike on hyoasung nz (http://www.hyosung.co.nz/news.php?id=anytime4aca545d6378a)

[DELLORTO]

hey hey check it out


hyosung nz pics (http://www.hyosung.co.nz/photo.php?id=anytime4aca474eaf141)
my bike on hyoasung nz (http://www.hyosung.co.nz/news.php?id=anytime4aca545d6378a)


cool, its good hyosung are doing that. Im very tempted to join that class, it aint going ot happen as long as ive got my cbr125r though...

in a couple of years when ive battled f4 i might do 250 streetstock.

[RDjase]

hey hey check it out


hyosung nz pics (http://www.hyosung.co.nz/photo.php?id=anytime4aca474eaf141)
my bike on hyoasung nz (http://www.hyosung.co.nz/news.php?id=anytime4aca545d6378a)

Cool chaos:msn-wink:

I like the shot of ken racing in the snow

[meowmix]

Not sure how many times these rules have been posted, I can't really be bothered searching through 69 pages...
Street Stock250cc 4 Stroke Twins.pdf (http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Street_Stock_250cc_4_Stroke_Twins.pdf)
No mention of wheels?

[DELLORTO]

Not sure how many times these rules have been posted, I can't really be bothered searching through 69 pages...
Street Stock250cc 4 Stroke Twins.pdf (http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Street_Stock_250cc_4_Stroke_Twins.pdf)
No mention of wheels?

its very likely being a "street STOCK" class that the wheels will have to be stock, are you thinking of joining this series??

abit of a bummer living in whangerei tho......long way from any tracks.

-max

[sil3nt]

Not sure how many times these rules have been posted, I can't really be bothered searching through 69 pages...
Street Stock250cc 4 Stroke Twins.pdf (http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Street_Stock_250cc_4_Stroke_Twins.pdf)
No mention of wheels?Wheels where mentioned under the proposed rules they appear to have removed the restriction from the final rules so pretty much any 4 stroke twin is the go :niceone:

[SS90]

bugger cuz if could nock off 10kgs from each tire with carbon rims, if you use the rule of 8 for sprung parts its like removing 80kgs a tyre.
blackstone tek (http://www.blackstonetek.com/Inertia.php)

Pardon?

Chaos, have you actually WEIGHED your wheels?

a saving of 10KG each?

I don't think so mate.:eek5:

[Hiflyer]

Pardon?

Chaos, have you actually WEIGHED your wheels?

a saving of 10KG each?

I don't think so mate.:eek5:

By Carbon he means re-enforced Feathers...

[Hiflyer]

Not sure how many times these rules have been posted, I can't really be bothered searching through 69 pages...
Street Stock250cc 4 Stroke Twins.pdf (http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Street_Stock_250cc_4_Stroke_Twins.pdf)
No mention of wheels?

Ur COmets fast man, if you get round to getting that custom exhaust put on itd b quick, you re-jetted it urself ay?

[chaos rider]

Pardon?

Chaos, have you actually WEIGHED your wheels?

a saving of 10KG each?

I don't think so mate.:eek5:

yeah i did rear is 13kg and front is 11, 10 kgs was a gues lol their still heavy though. carbon wheels from bst weigh on 5-6kg


By Carbon he means re-enforced Feathers...

oh yeah

[Hiflyer]

yeah i did rear is 13kg and front is 11, 10 kgs was a gues lol their still heavy though. carbon wheels from bst weigh on 5-6kg


Serious question time, would having lighter wheels greatly affect the handlling of the bike? Rotaional intertia and all that??

[chaos rider]

Serious question time, would having lighter wheels greatly affect the handlling of the bike? Rotaional intertia and all that??

here you go (http://www.blackstonetek.com/technical_info.php)

[gatch]

You realise alot of the weight in the wheel is the rubber..

[ducatilover]

Serious question time, would having lighter wheels greatly affect the handlling of the bike? Rotaional intertia and all that??
It can do, but throwing that kind of money for a small gain [unless you happen to be Rossi] is very pointless, they can help the bike accelerate, stop and turn in quicker but on a hyoslurp you may be lucky to knock 1s off at Puke. I wouldn't recommend doing that because all the suspension components on the bike are made to have the individual wheel weights affecting the bound and rebound of the shock absorber, loosing a dramatic amount of weight in that area will more than likely unbalance the bike and it may loose what bump control it has. :2thumbsup

You realise alot of the weight in the wheel is the rubber..

Same story with his.....:Pokey: :lol::lol:

[meowmix]

Ur COmets fast man, if you get round to getting that custom exhaust put on itd b quick, you re-jetted it urself ay?

Yep Ive spent a fairly long expensive and painful time rejetting. Had to read the plugs cos I've got no dyno...

I'd frikkin love to track it, wonder how it compares to everyone elses hyos. Theres no mention of intake mods in the rules, might have to establish that first.

Where is it held? Puke? What days? (Got a weekend job :mad:)

I'm liking the carbon wheels haha, and I'm loving the notion that Hyosung actually took spring rates and damping/rebound etc into account! Hell no they didn't. The rear shock is something thats meant to last 20,000 kms and the front forks are only there so you can point it in the right direction.

[kunoichi]

Next art day is on 15th of Nov i think. ART days would b a good chance to see how the mods effect ur bike. Would b a long ride down tho. Looking forward to seeing ya there! :)

[ducatilover]

I'm liking the carbon wheels haha, and I'm loving the notion that Hyosung actually took spring rates and damping/rebound etc into account! Hell no they didn't. The rear shock is something thats meant to last 20,000 kms and the front forks are only there so you can point it in the right direction.
If that is the case, sort the suspension then. Wheels won't do fuck all if it has uber poo suspension, valve emulators and springs. :headbang:

[gatch]

If that is the case, sort the suspension then. Wheels won't do fuck all if it has uber poo suspension, valve emulators and springs. Once you got a new bike that is.:headbang:

Fixed mate.

[ducatilover]

Fixed mate.

I don't see how I forgot to add that! It's kinda like throwing drag pipes on a Harldy davidson or going to a massive fireworks show with one sparkler. Having a Hyosung is worse than Chlamydia [I've had that twice and it's not too bad apart from the swab up the urethra] :2thumbsup:lol:

[meowmix]

I don't see how I forgot to add that! It's kinda like throwing drag pipes on a Harldy davidson or going to a massive fireworks show with one sparkler. Having a Hyosung is worse than Chlamydia [I've had that twice and it's not too bad apart from the swab up the urethra] :2thumbsup:lol:

Haha thats really excellent stuff to read about. Gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling.. Oh wait..

Hyos are fine, just slightly heavy, underpowered and they tend to turn crank bearings into bite sized pieces... Hey, a stock 250 Hyo will reach 100 faster then, and has more top speed then, a Harley 883 Sportster proven by Dyno (Massive deal I know).
Not to mention a 650 Hyo has more power then a 696 Ducati.. God I'd love a 696...

I'll see if I can get that Sunday 15th off, in Puke? Whats the cost?

[chaos rider]

Haha thats really excellent stuff to read about. Gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling.. Oh wait..

Hyos are fine, just slightly heavy, underpowered and they tend to turn crank bearings into bite sized pieces... Hey, a stock 250 Hyo will reach 100 faster then, and has more top speed then, a Harley 883 Sportster proven by Dyno (Massive deal I know).
Not to mention a 650 Hyo has more power then a 696 Ducati.. God I'd love a 696...

I'll see if I can get that Sunday 15th off, in Puke? Whats the cost?

ill do you one better heres the entry form (http://www.amcc.co.nz/entry_forms/ARTNov2009Entry.pdf)

[ducatilover]

Haha thats really excellent stuff to read about. Gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling.. Oh wait..

Hyos are fine, just slightly heavy, underpowered and they tend to turn crank bearings into bite sized pieces... Hey, a stock 250 Hyo will reach 100 faster then, and has more top speed then, a Harley 883 Sportster proven by Dyno (Massive deal I know).
Not to mention a 650 Hyo has more power then a 696 Ducati.. God I'd love a 696...

I'll see if I can get that Sunday 15th off, in Puke? Whats the cost?

I'd like to see a Hyo and a Harley race. Both are over weight and severely underpowered, except the hyo does so to meet power restriction regulations. How did the dyno prove that? The 650 Hyo are a reasonable bike though, the Duc 696 is underpowered, my bros650 would have eaten one [untill I got a tank slapper.....] :lol:

[Hiflyer]

[untill I got a tank slapper.....] :lol:

Don't those give you infections?? :Pokey:

[meowmix]

I'd like to see a Hyo and a Harley race. Both are over weight and severely underpowered, except the hyo does so to meet power restriction regulations. How did the dyno prove that? The 650 Hyo are a reasonable bike though, the Duc 696 is underpowered, my bros650 would have eaten one [untill I got a tank slapper.....] :lol:

Its nice that you bring up the BROS while talking about severly underpowered haha. Whats that, 57hp from 650ccs?:Pokey:
I can't find any sheets but basically due to the gearing, the Harley couldn't pull any real top speed. The acceleration doesn't need explanation.
I was actually looking at a BROS for the next step up, Honda powerplant and that 'conservative' state of tune lest them last forever. Or take a hell of alot of modding? Too bad they're hellishly overpriced considering average age/mileage :rolleyes:

Cheers for the entry form chaos rider, I guess you'll be there on the 15th?

[Fluffy Cat]

Will we be able to attach a four poster bed to said bikes. Will not make the very slow bike go any faster as a bonus you could get a good sleep whilst waiting no sorry racing. I think the trick would be to race the 4snoore stroke 250s on a go cart track or better still a slot car track.
Racing is meant to be exciting, i don't think anyone would want to watch these kind of bikes thats why they are learners.
Sorry but my opinion only but a dead end.

[puddytat]

Will we be able to attach a four poster bed to said bikes. Will not make the very slow bike go any faster as a bonus you could get a good sleep whilst waiting no sorry racing. I think the trick would be to race the 4snoore stroke 250s on a go cart track or better still a slot car track.
Racing is meant to be exciting, i don't think anyone would want to watch these kind of bikes thats why they are learners.
Sorry but my opinion only but a dead end.

Time will tell.....

[chaos rider]

Will we be able to attach a four poster bed to said bikes. Will not make the very slow bike go any faster as a bonus you could get a good sleep whilst waiting no sorry racing. I think the trick would be to race the 4snoore stroke 250s on a go cart track or better still a slot car track.
Racing is meant to be exciting, i don't think anyone would want to watch these kind of bikes thats why they are learners.
Sorry but my opinion only but a dead end.

unfortunatly with the costs of other bikes and parts this i think wil be the new big thing in racing

when more people get into it it wont be so boring then will it.

till then ill take my trophy and smile

[meowmix]

Will we be able to attach a four poster bed to said bikes. Will not make the very slow bike go any faster as a bonus you could get a good sleep whilst waiting no sorry racing. I think the trick would be to race the 4snoore stroke 250s on a go cart track or better still a slot car track.
Racing is meant to be exciting, i don't think anyone would want to watch these kind of bikes thats why they are learners.
Sorry but my opinion only but a dead end.

It may be the case that 4/ 250s are pretty sleepy, but as chaos says, it is majorly about the ease of entry into the class via both low costs and manageable power. If it doesn't appeal to you, no-ones forcing you to watch or enter.

[DELLORTO]

250 twins would be boring to watch!......there an old saying "only boring people get bored"......in my opinion they'll be funner than 150cc 2t's.

[ducatilover]

Don't those give you infections?? :Pokey:
Bad ones!

Its nice that you bring up the BROS while talking about severly underpowered haha. Whats that, 57hp from 650ccs?:Pokey:
I can't find any sheets but basically due to the gearing, the Harley couldn't pull any real top speed. The acceleration doesn't need explanation.
I was actually looking at a BROS for the next step up, Honda powerplant and that 'conservative' state of tune lest them last forever. Or take a hell of alot of modding? Too bad they're hellishly overpriced considering average age/mileage :rolleyes:

Yeah the first if them were 57hp, but with a few carefully selected mods they poked happily upwards of 70hp, for a low revving 6v twin that isn't too bad, the close ratio box on some of them were rather nice too and helped the wee party along to the imminent doom of the rider basically. :2thumbsup Very reliable bikes as you say. Don't look at a bros unless you want to spend money on a decent front end, CBR1000RR front end [previous model, not current] will fit straight on. I paid $2000 for mine in 05 with around 29k on the clock, that was a fair price. :rolleyes:

[Fluffy Cat]

It may be the case that 4/ 250s are pretty sleepy, but as chaos says, it is majorly about the ease of entry into the class via both low costs and manageable power. If it doesn't appeal to you, no-ones forcing you to watch or enter.
Dude it was just my view, no i dont like watch but i have been known to enter.
Could work on a short track, no big straights.
Yes lots sort of have them and there are a fair few on trade me but as a racer they are soooo slow.
I guess I am stuck in the 90's with the 400's and the 250's 2stroke that is. These bikes were i guess just a tad more exciting.
The twins look a bit better and are not very powerful but again as stock not very exciting and super stock is the way to go.
The 600's are exciting as are the 1000's but the champs aint packed out like a drift meet or championship.
On the other hand the street races are packed out.
I think i would focus on the twins and 600's. A superstock twin would make a great learner race bike...low power, there are a few around but prob not enough.
Just my opinion, still love my NSR20 and RS250 race bikes but no track near me, so count yourselves lucky.

[ducatilover]

Nah the twins don't look better than an nc30/35 or an rs250, or later tzr or nsr IMO :headbang: Those were sexy and legendary bikes. The only reason I like the twins is it is relatively cheap and an easy entry point for aspiring racers :2thumbsup I would have to agree that they aren't very exciting unless you happen to be the pilot of one. :baby:

[DELLORTO]

Nah the twins don't look better than an nc30/35 or an rs250, or later tzr or nsr IMO :headbang: Those were sexy and legendary bikes. The only reason I like the twins is it is relatively cheap and an easy entry point for aspiring racers :2thumbsup I would have to agree that they aren't very exciting unless you happen to be the pilot of one. :baby:

if its just hyosungs it will be shit boring to watch, all though if their doing 180km/h like chaos said {:lol:} it will be funny to watch their frames buckel when they brake into a corner.....

[gatch]

I guess I am stuck in the 90's with the 400's and the 250's 2stroke that is. These bikes were i guess just a tad more exciting.



Nah the twins don't look better than an nc30/35 or an rs250, or later tzr or nsr IMO :headbang: Those were sexy and legendary bikes. The only reason I like the twins is it is relatively cheap and an easy entry point for aspiring racers :2thumbsup I would have to agree that they aren't very exciting unless you happen to be the pilot of one. :baby:

You boys are right, nc30 is the shit, thankyou :D

[ducatilover]

if its just hyosungs it will be shit boring to watch, all though if their doing 180km/h like chaos said {:lol:} it will be funny to watch their frames buckel when they brake into a corner.....

:lol::lol::lol: Could be quite amusing.....

[ducatilover]

You boys are right, nc30 is the shit, thankyou :D

Can I ride it yet?

Were you at manfeild yesterday? I watched some of the bikes. Sadly I had some parts to sell at the classics and vintage swap meet, got rid of some 350 chev heads, XU-1 gtr torana parts the boss sold a shitty mk2 zephyr :clap:

[Fluffy Cat]

Sorry ducatilover i meant the twins looked better than the 4/snore stroke 250's. Then again i only meant the SV650 in full F3 trim. Mahnn i be getting some bad rep from this thread. Cool.

[gatch]

Can I ride it yet?

Lol keep trying mate :p

Yeah I shot out to manfield but quit late though, I just got sam the celtic leathers man to sew a zip on my jacket, then got soaked on the way home straight after..

[ducatilover]

Sorry ducatilover i meant the twins looked better than the 4/snore stroke 250's. Then again i only meant the SV650 in full F3 trim. Mahnn i be getting some bad rep from this thread. Cool.

Ah well, we are both correct. :2thumbsup

[ducatilover]

Lol keep trying mate :p

Yeah I shot out to manfield but quit late though, I just got sam the celtic leathers man to sew a zip on my jacket, then got soaked on the way home straight after..

:clap::clap: Hahaha Good shit dude

[RDjase]

Lol keep trying mate :p

Yeah I shot out to manfield but quit late though, I just got sam the celtic leathers man to sew a zip on my jacket, then got soaked on the way home straight after..

Sam is putting some armour in my old jacket (bought 22 years ago, $600 of apprentice money then, 4 weeks wages lol)

Have you had a race on that classic(norton?) we were talking about at rd3?

[Ragingrob]

So has anyone/Chaos actually raced yet?

[RDjase]

So has anyone/Chaos actually raced yet?


His (amcc) meeting got rained out a few weeks ago, I pretty sure he got some track time in before it got cancelled(its back a few pages) , note sure if it was practice or the 1st race.

Taupo in 2 weeks ,Bike rider magazine Summer Series (PMCC) 1st round , entry forms and info at

www.pacclub.co.nz

[chaos rider]

So has anyone/Chaos actually raced yet?

yes got 2nd

[sil3nt]

yes got 2ndOut of how many :whistle:

[SS90]

Does it matter?

Of all the "big no all experienced advise/critisism" posters in this thread, as far as I can tell, not one single "know all" has even turned up to one of these events.

Big respect to Chaosrider for competing.

He got second place of all the people who had the balls/skill to compete.

[RDjase]

Does it matter?

Of all the "big no all experienced advise/critisism" posters in this thread, as far as I can tell, not one single "know all" has even turned up to one of these events.

Big respect to Chaosrider for competing.

He got second place of all the people who had the balls/skill to compete.

+1 ss90
Chaos has come a long way from his smarts arse know it all posts of old. He takes advice on board now and DID go and enter as wet race meet on shinko tyres . Good on you Chaos:clap:

[gatch]

Sam is putting some armour in my old jacket (bought 22 years ago, $600 of apprentice money then, 4 weeks wages lol)

Have you had a race on that classic(norton?) we were talking about at rd3?

Not yet chief, November 1st at manfield is the day of days, thats if I don't have a heart attack before then, I cant wait man !!!


yes got 2nd

Chur, good man, keep that up.

[ducatilover]

Does it matter?

Of all the "big no all experienced advise/critisism" posters in this thread, as far as I can tell, not one single "know all" has even turned up to one of these events.

Big respect to Chaosrider for competing.

He got second place of all the people who had the balls/skill to compete.
:2thumbsup Couldn't agree more.

He has been listening, no more "flywheel" debates [I miss them] But it's bloody good to see that he is taking this seriously, this pro-twins could be a significant steeping stone for Chaos :headbang: So keep it up dude.

Fuck riding a wet track on Shinko rubber.....:clap:

[meowmix]

Fuck riding a wet track on Shinko rubber.....:clap:
Holy crap yes. chaos apparently has balls. Good going!

[chaos rider]

Holy crap yes. chaos apparently has balls. Good going!

better then slicks or new tyres, they crashed.:weep:moment of scilence for the mangled f3's

[meowmix]

better then slicks or new tyres, they crashed.:weep:moment of scilence for the mangled f3's
Haha I imagine in the wet even Shinkos will be better than slicks. I replaced mine with BT-45's, Harley tyres? Cos the shop was desperate to part with em. They stay warm much better, but are still a mileage tyre. But Shinko's would be brilliant for a supermotard, mine tended to drift well enough :pinch:

I won't be able to make the next meet, no time off left. If you're in contact with those in power, reckon you could ask about airbox/intake rule clarification?
Win it for Hyo! (Lord knows we need it)

[chaos rider]

Haha I imagine in the wet even Shinkos will be better than slicks. I replaced mine with BT-45's, Harley tyres? Cos the shop was desperate to part with em. They stay warm much better, but are still a mileage tyre. But Shinko's would be brilliant for a supermotard, mine tended to drift well enough :pinch:

I won't be able to make the next meet, no time off left. If you're in contact with those in power, reckon you could ask about airbox/intake rule clarification?
Win it for Hyo! (Lord knows we need it)

airbox must ramain as standerd but filter can be modified

[Hiflyer]

If you're in contact with those in power, reckon you could ask about airbox/intake rule clarification?
Win it for Hyo! (Lord knows we need it)


airbox must ramain as standerd but filter can be modified

Guts for your pods then.

[meowmix]

Guts for your pods then.

Suck but ohwell. Might grab a stocker and butcher it. Would you go to one of these meets Jordan? I'm looking for a fulltime job/no fulltime study so I'll have weekends free in the next coupla months. Could make a trip out of it. Badass.

[Hiflyer]

Suck but ohwell. Might grab a stocker and butcher it. Would you go to one of these meets Jordan? I'm looking for a fulltime job/no fulltime study so I'll have weekends free in the next coupla months. Could make a trip out of it. Badass.

Fuck yea. stay at the flat and It'll be badass. Get Danny to go too.


Hampton downs is finished now too :banana:

[puddytat]

So has anyone/Chaos actually raced yet?

Im racing this weekend at Greymouth......:whistle:......in F3.
Looking fwd to trying not to come last,but the tracks fairly short straights with 90 deg.corners & a tight hairpin so it'll suit me ,& the bike is awesome underbrakes.....

[mossy1200]

Does it matter?

Of all the "big no all experienced advise/critisism" posters in this thread, as far as I can tell, not one single "know all" has even turned up to one of these events.

Big respect to Chaosrider for competing.

He got second place of all the people who had the balls/skill to compete.

I go for a ride on occasions.Got a few seconds this year.

[SS90]

I go for a ride on occasions.Got a few seconds this year.

good for you.

was it on a streetstock 250?

[chaos rider]

good for you.

was it on a streetstock 250?

i got second by defualt. geting second in a full grid will be a big thing, ken, the other rider, used to race the isle mann tt, and scotty our test rider used to be a test rider for perilly i think.

put it this way my best lap in the wet on the day was 1.49, kens best lap on the day was 1.36, best f3... 1.29. it was easilly +20 second weather

[chaos rider]

free bear and half price food anyone?look here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110643&highlight=ducks)

[ducatilover]

Hey Chaos, don't worry about the air box unless you use the formula I provided you with in another thread, it's too easy to go wrong with an air box and you will have to re jet the bike and possibly change the needle heights etc etc You get the idea, putting pods on it won't help unless you re tune it. :2thumbsup

[ducatilover]

free bear and half price food anyone?look here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110643&highlight=ducks)

Haven't had a good bear in quite some time, grizzly is too stringy anyway. :dodge:

[chaos rider]

:banana:hey hey its my birthday, another year older and still as dumb as a boot to bet

[RDjase]

:banana:hey hey its my birthday, another year older and still as dumb as a boot to bet

happy Birthday chaos:banana:, Drink lots of bear lol:lol:
Take some pics if you burn out your shinko . Dont break the bike tho

[mossy1200]

good for you.

was it on a streetstock 250?

No it was just postclassic.three :second: and ten :first: but no :third: :banana:

[RDjase]

No it was just postclassic.three :second: and ten :first: but no :third: :banana:

Yoy FZR sure does go well, It will be a bad arse weapon with the new freash engine and your new carbs sorted out,:2thumbsup

How are you getting on with the Bucket, Im getting another 1 this weekend , Want it ready for nov 7th for roys hill , You want too come and try yours out if its ready?

[mossy1200]

Yoy FZR sure does go well, It will be a bad arse weapon with the new freash engine and your new carbs sorted out,:2thumbsup

How are you getting on with the Bucket, Im getting another 1 this weekend , Want it ready for nov 7th for roys hill , You want too come and try yours out if its ready?

Buckets got to wait in line.Just ordered another 4hundry of fzr bits(cam chain,valve guide seals and pod filter intake stacks).Took van in for warrent and the manifolds cracked and hard to get to so estimate 3 to 4hundry for that so this year on bucket is iffy unless a cheep engine drifts my direction.Maybe when regos hike to hell there will be an abundance of engines around.Engine work on fzr is north of 4grand and to top it off my tools got stolen again aweek ago and im down thousands on that.

[fizzafulla]

possibly off topic but any advice for someone who has done one trackday on what type of racing to get into. Buckets or streetstocks I guess are the starting options. Not a great mechanic, and currently bikeless so want to get the right machine.
cheers.

[ducatilover]

possibly off topic but any advice for someone who has done one trackday on what type of racing to get into. Buckets or streetstocks I guess are the starting options. Not a great mechanic, and currently bikeless so want to get the right machine.
cheers.

What kind of money do you want to spend? How much road experience have you got mate?

If Minimal in both, the 250 twin 4t class is goo, but the streetstock may also be worth considering. :scooter:

[fizzafulla]

Yea money is why I don't have a bike at the mo. But planning for next year. I've had an fzr 250 which destroyed 250 hyosungs, and a vfr 400 and took my gf round south Island on dad's beema, so got road experience, but bugga all race or bike setup experience.

[ducatilover]

Yea money is why I don't have a bike at the mo. But planning for next year. I've had an fzr 250 which destroyed 250 hyosungs, and a vfr 400 and took my gf round south Island on dad's beema, so got road experience, but bugga all race or bike setup experience. I would say go for the 250 vee twins if it gets up and running happily, it would be cheap to get a hyobag, gpx, vtr250f2 or spada and go out to race. I'm happy to give any advice on the engine tuning side of things and anywhere I am able to help. The street stock may be quite competitive, but, to be honest I am not too sure

[fizzafulla]

I would say go for the 250 vee twins if it gets up and running happily, it would be cheap to get a hyobag, gpx, vtr250f2 or spada and go out to race. I'm happy to give any advice on the engine tuning side of things and anywhere I am able to help. The street stock may be quite competitive, but, to be honest I am not too sure

Thanks mate, yea I don't have much experience with 2 strokes and sort of see them as slowly going out of fashion, even though they are cool, so yea that does sound a really cheap option as long as I wasn't up against 4cyl 250s and 150 2strokes which I think MIGHT deal to a 2 cyl 4 stroke. Lots for me to think about thanks again.

[ajturbo]

possibly off topic but any advice for someone who has done one trackday on what type of racing to get into. Buckets or streetstocks I guess are the starting options. Not a great mechanic, and currently bikeless so want to get the right machine.
cheers.
go for the buckets... you have to learn how to fall off...

learn close racing..

learn how to fall off

learn what happens when someone suddenly decides that they want to be where you are.... without telling you

you have to learn THE RULES...

you have to KNOW what the flags mean..

you have to learn how much things will cost when you fall off...

you have to learn how to have fun.. while racing

AND

for less than $500 you can get a bike and go racing..!!!

[fizzafulla]

You make some good points. Rather fall off a bucket than other bikes.

[ajturbo]

You make some good points. Rather fall off a bucket than other bikes.
yeah... apart from a few brake and clutch leavers.... there is not much else that can brake..(apart from your pride..)..as long as you don't put a fairing on..lol

[chaos rider]

shinkos are gone

took it out and got my first knee down at around 30km/h

so much better:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[DELLORTO]

I got to take out kens gt250r out yesterday!! and man does it go hard! theres nothing like doing 125km/h and draging your knee!!!

im waiting until they bring out the new fuel injected one {about 2 weeks} and then im getting into this class. Cant wait, i might do paeroa on it:yes:

[ducatilover]

shinkos are gone

took it out and got my first knee down at around 30km/h

so much better:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:rockon: Good to hear mate, nothing like the first knee down!

[Hiflyer]

shinkos are gone

took it out and got my first knee down at around 30km/h

so much better:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Whatd you replace them with??

[ducatilover]

Whatd you replace them with??

Round rubber hoops is my guess :sweatdrop

[mossy1200]

possibly off topic but any advice for someone who has done one trackday on what type of racing to get into. Buckets or streetstocks I guess are the starting options. Not a great mechanic, and currently bikeless so want to get the right machine.
cheers.

I started with a FZR1000.Im having midlife crisis though and im only 14g over budget

[puddytat]

possibly off topic but any advice for someone who has done one trackday on what type of racing to get into. Buckets or streetstocks I guess are the starting options. Not a great mechanic, and currently bikeless so want to get the right machine.
cheers.

Streetstock,buckets & the 250 twins would be the way to go I reckon,teach you all about corner speed & how sticky tyres are without the worry of trashin your bike & your budget.:whistle:
You can get a feel for it & take it from there....plus they're relatively simple to work on.


Had a cracker day at Greymouth ,the only 250 twin there & got dealt to in F3:D

[gatch]

I got a ride on a mates 57 dominator in the classic racing register. On the fastest bike in the 500 modified group I came 3rd to last ha..

I concur that a streetstock is a good idea, I'm looking into it myself..

[chaos rider]

art day trsck report.

first big round off aplouse:clap::clap::clap: for konoichi, first track day ever, did very well, instructer even asked if she would be racing at the next amcc round2... ill make shure she does. get the kwaka running a bit faster for her.:first:

i did ok. then asked to move up a class. and did better. my best lap time of the day was 1.28 avrage 1.29-1.30, still got some more work to do in the hairpin and increase my corner speed allround, as the hyo and tyres have plenty more go.

new tyres are fucken mint. huge improvement on the shinkos. ill give ken a run for his money next race and hyosung will sine me for sure. i hope:third:

also big turnout of female riders:niceone: 8 girls in difrent classes including konoichi:second:

and im not to happy with the instructer that asked me to follow him in group2, you were going much slower then the speed i was already happy doing. i might have had only a third of the power then any of the other bikes in the group, but i was faster in all the courners then you estamated.:nono: but i obliged you all the same. note for next time, dont be suprised when overtake you if your going slower then the pase im happy doing.

thanks greg for the advice on the hairpin apex line ill try it next time im out on the track

[ducatilover]

Good to hear Chaos.
Whilst following the instructor did you take note of his lines? His position on the bike? His turn in and exit points and where he finds his apex? How smooth he was riding? His head positioning and where he was looking whilst going into a corner, through the corner and exiting the corner? His body positioning; torso positioning/angle etc.
I hope you observed an experience rider and maybe could have improved upon some of your riding traits.
Keep the updates coming and enjoy yourself mate :msn-wink:

[chaos rider]

art day trsck report.

first big round off aplouse:clap::clap::clap: for konoichi, first track day ever, did very well, instructer even asked if she would be racing at the next amcc round2... ill make shure she does. get the kwaka running a bit faster for her.:first:

i did ok. then asked to move up a class. and did better. my best lap time of the day was 1.28 avrage 1.29-1.30, still got some more work to do in the hairpin and increase my corner speed allround, as the hyo and tyres have plenty more go.

new tyres are fucken mint. huge improvement on the shinkos. ill give ken a run for his money next race and hyosung will sine me for sure. i hope:third:

also big turnout of female riders:niceone: 8 girls in difrent classes including konoichi:second:

and im not to happy with the instructer that asked me to follow him in group2, you were going much slower then the speed i was already happy doing. i might have had only a third of the power then any of the other bikes in the group, but i was faster in all the courners then you estamated.:nono: but i obliged you all the same. note for next time, dont be suprised when overtake you if your going slower then the pase im happy doing.

thanks greg for the advice on the hairpin apex line ill try it next time im out on the track

[woodyracer]

well im a late starter too but i dont have dad at all for custard. so im hasling hyosung nz, fingers crossed the factry signs me. my chances are very high aparantly. but dont count your revs before the lights.

i have to work fast to get good lol

too late mr.chaos.......i bet you to it, see you at puke on the 13/14 december if the 2010 bike is ready by then.

[sil3nt]

too late mr.chaos.......i bet you to it, see you at puke on the 13/14 december if the 2010 bike is ready by then.:jerry:
:laugh:

[woodyracer]

:jerry:
:laugh:

whtas the laughing about?

[Hiflyer]

whtas the laughing about?

He's saying that your probably going to start a bit of an interweb fight with your shot talking.

And whos to say they cant sign more than one person??




:jerry::jerry::jerry::jerry: :laugh:

[Mudfart]

I live about 10mins from Hapton downs, so Ill watch the calender for the noob day invites, then Im gonna give the EX250 a blast round it. Although im completely NOOB tho! My first bike and its only done 200kms sofar. Can you race on the track with learners?

[woodyracer]

no you cant, but you can rent a day licence, to be honest using a road bike to race isnt a great idea, because if you crash it your stuffed.

Turn the ex into a race bike!

[woodyracer]

He's saying that your probably going to start a bit of an interweb fight with your shot talking.

And whos to say they cant sign more than one person??




:jerry::jerry::jerry::jerry: :laugh:

well, chaos is learning, i got the impression ken wants someone who is faster than himself and someone who is going to get hyosungs on the podium in streetstock 150 ect,. Im sure hyosung will help him anyway considering their sponsoring the ammc protecta series.

Ive been talkign to a few people at buckets and their keen to get a bike for ss250 so the class should take off next year!

until then ive book to race in the taupo road race spectacular which is a big event so ill be up against 150 2t's cant wait!

[sil3nt]

So did you have to buy the bike or is it loaned to you for use during the series?

[woodyracer]

at the moment ken is setting the bike up for racing, as they are finding the best mods and things to put on the bike. Im not too sure at the moment about other things like money ect, as he's still sorting the bike out.

all in good time.

[Hiflyer]

at the moment ken is setting the bike up for racing, as they are finding the best mods and things to put on the bike. Im not too sure at the moment about other things like money ect, as he's still sorting the bike out.

all in good time.

Your a bit cocky aren't you?

[meowmix]

Ahaha, great way to fuel the fire.:jerry:

I'll tune it! Give me a dyno, a jigsaw and a stack of jets. That'd be fun.

[FROSTY]

Um er yasee theres this Kwakka 250 sitting in the workshop. HMM. bugger might hafta do a lapor two on it.
Kaos -If you were well inside your comfort zone then the instructor was doing EXACTLY what he's soposed to.
At that pace you can focuson turn in points .brakingpoints etc

[Hiflyer]

Ahaha, great way to fuel the fire.:jerry:

I'll tune it! Give me a dyno, a jigsaw and a stack of jets. That'd be fun.

Whats the Jigsaw for? Taking off excess weight? haha

[meowmix]

Whats the Jigsaw for? Taking off excess weight? haha
A jigsaw is a standard motorcycle tuning tool, you'd know that if you were a trained professional like myself.

You dont use a jigsaw?...

[ducatilover]

A jigsaw is a standard motorcycle tuning tool, you'd know that if you were a trained professional like myself.

You dont use a jigsaw?...

Yeah....to cut parts off....37.87kg to be exact by seat of pants sniffing the exhaust measuring :bleh: :msn-wink:

[woodyracer]

is there goign to be a good crowd for 20 twin fella's for amcc in december??

im not a fan of puke but its nice and close.

[Hiflyer]

is there goign to be a good crowd for 20 twin fella's for amcc in december??

No :laugh:

why is your name woodyracer?

[sil3nt]

No :laugh:

why is your name woodyracer?These twins do vibrate a lot you know :blip:

[woodyracer]

No :laugh:

why is your name woodyracer?

because my second name is woodruffe.......

wats with your attitude?


and before you ask.....i dont have any wood on my bike...

[Hiflyer]

because my second name is woodruffe.......

wats with your attitude?


and before you ask.....i dont have any wood on my bike...

Haha just kidding round its the internet,,, I have respect for you if you are racing, youve got more talent/balls than me, I wouldve loved to race my hyo, but bloody thieves fucked that plan up didnt they haha,

[woodyracer]

Haha just kidding round its the internet,,, I have respect for you if you are racing, youve got more talent/balls than me, I wouldve loved to race my hyo, but bloody thieves fucked that plan up didnt they haha,

that sucks about your bike!! even my little cbr has a disc lock and an inch thick cable around its back wheel.......

Did you have insurance?

[Hiflyer]

that sucks about your bike!! even my little cbr has a disc lock and an inch thick cable around its back wheel.......

Did you have insurance?

Yup got insurance, 30 day recovery period though :S, I'll definatly be amping up the security, disc lock at least.

Where I had parked it when it got stolen, I couldnt chain it to anything unless I had a portable ground anchor haha.

Looks like theyve picked it up and put it on a trailer cos 3 of the houses around where I parked heard the bike turn up and none heard it leave...

[meowmix]

I throw a bike chain through the rear wheel and the rear footpeg when theres no post or anything, and with that they cant get more then 1m in any direction. Unless they are armed with bolt cutters or a $2 allen key set.
Ducatilover, I see you are well versed in tuning. I'm an expert myself, but have a niggling problem, my pistons keep melting. I'm adding more air and less fuel to cool it down to no avail... :bleh:

[ducatilover]

I've never had problem in Eketahuna, Pahiatua or woodville with stealing. The general population know not to fuck [excuse my language] with me or the Family :msn-wink: [even though we aren't from here. word travels] Why doesn't everybody come down here? No problems here with me :bleh:

[Hiflyer]

I've never had problem in Eketahuna, Pahiatua or woodville with stealing. The general population know not to fuck [excuse my language] with me or the Family :msn-wink: [even though we aren't from here. word travels] Why doesn't everybody come down here? No problems here with me :bleh:

Is that cos you and your family IS the general population in Eketahuna? haha JOKING!!!

[chaos rider]

Um er yasee theres this Kwakka 250 sitting in the workshop. HMM. bugger might hafta do a lapor two on it.
Kaos -If you were well inside your comfort zone then the instructor was doing EXACTLY what he's soposed to.
At that pace you can focuson turn in points .brakingpoints etc

no its not that he was just checking to see if i could keep the group 2 pace and he underestimated my corner speed, messed me up. they did the same with my dad he did a 1.24 then the instructer asked him to wollow and he was doing a 1.33.

i understand they are tring to teach you good habbits, but when they are on a whole difrent bike with more then double the cc its just stupid to teach someone like that. at any point i could have hapaly passed him and pissed off.

i moved from group 1 to 2 so i could hit the corners harder and not have to slow down for other riders. the instructer defeated that point. next time i will pass him if hes slowing me down. and as for the turn in points ect they are all over when i go slow. if i go faster my turns are smoother and better.

only thing i learnt from what he did was to follow realy close to anouther bike. so next time if hes to slow ill pass him and if he still wants me to follow hell nee to up his pace.

my 3 rules. ride your OWN ride and if your not having fun slow down. and if in doubt give it gas


and woody.. i believe i have the fastest hyo in new zealand. ill put money on it. pluss if they have signed you watch out, your in my spot and i want it!:crazy:

[gatch]

1. the instructer defeated that point. next time i will pass him if hes slowing me down.

2. my 3 rules. ride your OWN ride and if your not having fun slow down. and if in doubt give it gas


3. and woody.. i believe i have the fastest hyo in new zealand.

1. Instructors usually get jobs instructing because they know a bit more about what they are doing than their students..

2. Your rules are retarded, if in doubt give it gas ? Here's a scenario, "I'm unsure of how to ride in the wet, on shit road surfaces, carrying passengers, when I'm tired, not entirely comfortable on my bike yet, I am in doubt.. Oh yeah the rule, GIVE IT GAS !!!

3. No, its not, its a "stock" bike, I'm sure there are dudes who have done stuff to actually make theirs go faster.. Then there are the 650s..

[chaos rider]

1. Instructors usually get jobs instructing because they know a bit more about what they are doing than their students..

2. Your rules are retarded, if in doubt give it gas ? Here's a scenario, "I'm unsure of how to ride in the wet, on shit road surfaces, carrying passengers, when I'm tired, not entirely comfortable on my bike yet, I am in doubt.. Oh yeah the rule, GIVE IT GAS !!!

3. No, its not, its a "stock" bike, I'm sure there are dudes who have done stuff to actually make theirs go faster.. Then there are the 650s..

1. i know that, and i asked him after why and he was just checking to see if i could keep up. remember i said i was the only 250 in the class. and i told him i wasnt happy and the pace he chose was to slow. and he said it was fine.

2. my rules are for the track and most importantly for me. plus if you have doubts for those situations, you need some help. knowing what to do is very important. the bike is always more stable under power then when braking. most of the good puki riders will tell you this, very impotant throgh jenian.

3. let me make it clear. my HYOSUNG GT250R 2008 STOCK RACE BIKE. is most probably the current fastest in new zealand. if you can put one on a track with mine that is faster. ill pay up. so far i have had no other 250 4stroke beet me for top speed down the backstraight at puki. 3 ninjas, cbr 250, and a nsr250 2stroke (not sure if he was going for it, but he was slower on the straight. after i talked to him it turned out the bike was a bit sick.... but still)


pluss i only have 2 track days and one rained out race under my belt. so i have heaps more improvement to come. but where i am now is already quite fast so watch this space.

[woodyracer]

ok chaos, just because you can beat alot of other 250's down the back straight dosnt mean your bike is faster.....it just means your more comfortable with high speeds.......

ive lapped gsx1400's at taupo on my old fxr, this was because they wernt confident....its all down to the rider.

Its good your enthusiastic about the hyosung race serires.....but id be happy to offer up a friendly $50 donation to you if you beat me at round 2/3 of the protecta series :cool:

And chaos try come to manfeild in janurary......you'll be suprised with how nice a "PROPER" race circuit is.

[meowmix]

Chaos, I'd like to give you a drag/speed race some time, your claim to the fastest 250 s/s compliant Hyo intrigues me.

[Hiflyer]

Chaos, I'd like to give you a drag/speed race some time, your claim to the fastest 250 s/s compliant Hyo intrigues me.

:jerry::jerry::jerry:

This will be fun!

[woodyracer]

it will be fun......how does he plan to beat everyone if he's only done one race and 2 track days? all at puke {its a big oval remember}

Looking forward to 13/14...every weekend in december i have racing so bring on december!! :Punk:

[SS90]

ok chaos, just because you can beat alot of other 250's down the back straight dosnt mean your bike is faster.....it just means your more comfortable with high speeds.......

ive lapped gsx1400's at taupo on my old fxr, this was because they wernt confident....its all down to the rider.

Its good your enthusiastic about the hyosung race serires.....but id be happy to offer up a friendly $50 donation to you if you beat me at round 2/3 of the protecta series :cool:

And chaos try come to manfeild in janurary......you'll be suprised with how nice a "PROPER" race circuit is.




Manfield is a dump!

We'll hold you to the fiddy bucks as well "mr big racer, faster than Chaos Rider, FXR lapping etc......"

RED REP!

Go CHAOS!!!!!!

[woodyracer]

i havnt said im a big racer.....i just said im more expirienced.....

il delete my post to please you aye.....

[Ragingrob]

no its not that he was just checking to see if i could keep the group 2 pace and he underestimated my corner speed, messed me up. they did the same with my dad he did a 1.24 then the instructer asked him to wollow and he was doing a 1.33.

i understand they are tring to teach you good habbits, but when they are on a whole difrent bike with more then double the cc its just stupid to teach someone like that. at any point i could have hapaly passed him and pissed off.

i moved from group 1 to 2 so i could hit the corners harder and not have to slow down for other riders. the instructer defeated that point. next time i will pass him if hes slowing me down. and as for the turn in points ect they are all over when i go slow. if i go faster my turns are smoother and better.

only thing i learnt from what he did was to follow realy close to anouther bike. so next time if hes to slow ill pass him and if he still wants me to follow hell nee to up his pace.

my 3 rules. ride your OWN ride and if your not having fun slow down. and if in doubt give it gas


and woody.. i believe i have the fastest hyo in new zealand. ill put money on it. pluss if they have signed you watch out, your in my spot and i want it!:crazy:

No shit Sherlock, of course you're gonna be going slower following the instructor, that's what they do, they aren't there to make you push your limits. You're not meant to be racing the instructor. Why do a training day if you don't wanna be trained?

You're an idiot.

[Schrgd]

Sounds like chaos and dellorto(woodyracer) would get on real well!!

Same sort of attitude. lol

With there powers combined.....Watch out Rossi

Was gonna put a fiddy on chaos until i had a good read the rest of his posts.

Woody, how long should I be racing before I start winning?? and can you tell the Couger! He's only been doing it for 4 months and he's won last last 6 of 7 races he's been in?? Maybe he needs to read your rule book.


:jerry::jerry::jerry::jerry:

[Schrgd]

Wagers on

I'll start small $10 on chaos

:jerry:

[gatch]

1. i told him i wasnt happy and the pace he chose was to slow. and he said it was fine.

2. very impotent through jenian.

3. let me make it clear. my HYOSUNG GT250R 2008 STOCK RACE BIKE. is most probably the current fastest in new zealand. if you can put one on a track with mine that is faster. ill pay up. so far i have had no other 250 4stroke beet me for top speed down the backstraight at puki. 3 ninjas, cbr 250, and a nsr250 2stroke (not sure if he was going for it, but he was slower on the straight. after i talked to him it turned out the bike was a bit sick.... but still)

pluss i only have 2 track days and one rained out race under my belt. so i have heaps more improvement to come. but where i am now is already quite fast so watch this space.

1. instructor [ɪnˈstrʌktə]
n
1. someone who instructs; teacher
2. (Social Science / Education) US and Canadian a university teacher ranking below assistant professor
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2. Not finding jenian too hard then... lol

3. despite your claims, I would be more than willing to bet you $50 dollars (anyone here can hold me to this) that a cbr/nsr/ninja (4 cyl) at full noise would be much faster than your hyo in a straight line, fuck it, make it $100 !

[koba]

Manfield is a dump!


IT's actually really quite good these days, it was shit a few years ago but they have upped their game, I would say its much better than the last time I was on Taupo.

[puddytat]

I reckon he'll get his arse kicked .....& then blame the bike:whistle:

[Kickaha]

Manfield is a dump!

There's been a bit of resurfacing since you were last there, so it isn't quite as bad as it used to be and the pit facilities are now considerably better

Puke however is still a shithole

[Mully]

3. HYOSUNG GT250R 2008 STOCK RACE BIKE

It's a GT250P actually. Read the other thread.

I can't imagine an instructor would be too keen on being overtaking by someone he's trying to assist.

In fact, I can't imagine the people running the day would be too keen on people passing the instructors either.

[brendonjw]

ok chaos, just because you can beat alot of other 250's down the back straight dosnt mean your bike is faster.....it just means your more comfortable with high speeds.......



Either that or he is probably getting faster exit speeds out of the corner....

[ducatilover]

and woody.. i believe i have the fastest hyo in new zealand. ill put money on it. pluss if they have signed you watch out, your in my spot and i want it!:crazy: Why? Because it will be too lean from the new exhaust? Get it Jetted Chaos.


1. Instructors usually get jobs instructing because they know a bit more about what they are doing than their students..

2. Your rules are retarded, if in doubt give it gas ? Here's a scenario, "I'm unsure of how to ride in the wet, on shit road surfaces, carrying passengers, when I'm tired, not entirely comfortable on my bike yet, I am in doubt.. Oh yeah the rule, GIVE IT GAS !!!

3. No, its not, its a "stock" bike, I'm sure there are dudes who have done stuff to actually make theirs go faster.. Then there are the 650s.. :lol::lol: Amusing isn't it? :banana:


2. my rules are for the track and most importantly for me. plus if you have doubts for those situations, you need some help. knowing what to do is very important. the bike is always more stable under power then when braking. most of the good puki riders will tell you this, very impotant throgh jenian.

3. let me make it clear. my HYOSUNG GT250R 2008 STOCK RACE BIKE. is most probably the current fastest in new zealand. if you can put one on a track with mine that is faster. ill pay up. so far i have had no other 250 4stroke beet me for top speed down the backstraight at puki. 3 ninjas, cbr 250, and a nsr250 2stroke (not sure if he was going for it, but he was slower on the straight. after i talked to him it turned out the bike was a bit sick.... but still)


pluss i only have 2 track days and one rained out race under my belt. so i have heaps more improvement to come. but where i am now is already quite fast so watch this space.
Re point 2, this, coming from the one who didn't dee the gravel and laid his Hyo down then proceeded to blame everybody else? What a joke.

How does a 33hp at the crank Hyo [Running too lean with the "retard" wire removed] beat a cbr250rr? It doesn't, unless the rider is taking it easy.
Were the three ninjas the new superbly gutless [like a hyo] model? A zxr will eat the arse off a hyo anywhere anytime, more power, torque and less weight. The NSR250 was probably a bucket with some stickers.
Don't exagerate so much, nobody wants to hear it! Stick to the good stuff mate.

I'll give you a go with my toy :whistle: :2thumbsup
I won't bet on either, I want to see somebody push too hard under pressure and then have a wee learning experience

[SS90]

Is that thing fitted to your Beemer Doug?

[chaos rider]

none of you where there so i hold your comments as moot.

if your all so good why are you never at the track to "teach me" what you know.

[Ragingrob]

none of you where there so i hold your comments as moot.

if your all so good why are you never at the track to "teach me" what you know.

You're so pro that you can't be taught, I mean, shit, you can go faster than the instructor teaching you, faaark!!!

[McWild]

Fuck me is this thread still going.

Anybody care to sum up the last couple of months for me?

[sil3nt]

Chaos has pretty much been sucking his own cock. He did enter an extremely wet race (good on him!) where he pootled around and got some track time. He then did an ART day where he thought the instructors were too slow. He actually believes he has the fastest Hyo despite the fact hes almost 100kgs (which would nullify any weight savings made on the bike). He thinks that passing bigger bikes down the backstraight at puke makes his bike fast. The fact that the other bikes were not going full throttle makes little difference.

[sil3nt]

Oh and apparently Chaos has lost out on his factory Hyo seat to someone, possibly more arrogant that he is, who goes by the name of woodyracer (i bet he is good mates with dean :shifty:)

Dont take anything i have said too seriously :whistle:

[gatch]

He's been practicing his stand up comedy routine..

[RDjase]

none of you where there so i hold your comments as moot.

if your all so good why are you never at the track to "teach me" what you know.

Are you doing TRRS chaos? Its a really good meeting , you will get heaps of track time, 220 entrys last year

[McWild]

Right then see you all in another couple of months!

[TZ350]

Oh and apparently Chaos has lost out on his factory Hyo seat to someone, who goes by the name of woodyracer

I have seen Woodyracer ride his F4 at Mt Wellington, he is pretty good and can race well in the rain too.

.

[sil3nt]

I have seen Woodyracer ride his F4 at Mt Wellington, he is pretty good and can race well in the rain too.

.Bet he can't tune his bike by smelling the exhaust.

[puddytat]

Maybe its about time to start a new thread about the 250 twin class that isnt just about Chaos:oi-grr::yawn:
We all want to be fast, but sometimes it pays to just shut the fuck up & listen....:yes:

[chaos rider]

Are you doing TRRS chaos? Its a really good meeting , you will get heaps of track time, 220 entrys last year

might be going with hyosung nz if there going otherwise its not looking good broke as hell.


Maybe its about time to start a new thread about the 250 twin class that isnt just about Chaos:oi-grr::yawn:
We all want to be fast, but sometimes it pays to just shut the fuck up & listen....:yes:

and whos guna do the talking?? YOU? yeah i thought so.

and you guys still cant read. i said the istructer was going to slow for me. as in he underestimated my pace. and this shit i hear about getting better lines when you go slower is just wrong. speed effects your lines. so doing a nice line at a slower speed is fine but whos to say that line would be good at a faster pace.

all the he did was check if i was fast enough to be in group 2. it was in the first couple of laps in that group. i had moved up a group because it was not safe for me to ride with the slower riders in group one. 30 second difrence in pace i think it was. (and i was still well within my comfurt zone. i was learning the track for the next race!!!)

i never said i was shit hot. all i did was present my opinion on what the instructer did. 3 other instructers agreed with me when i told them after the sesion.

[RDjase]

might be going with hyosung nz if there going otherwise its not looking good broke as hell.


I was talking to Ken and Fergus from Hyosung at BRM rd 1 at Taupo. There doing all the PMCC BRM rounds and i think there doing the AMCC as well. I assume they will be at TRSS. I hope they are as i didnt have long to yak as i blew my engine and was a tad busy lol

[puddytat]

and whos guna do the talking?? YOU? yeah i thought so.


i never said i was shit hot. all i did was present my opinion on what the instructer did. 3 other instructers agreed with me when i told them after the sesion.

I'll do the talking to people whom I think will listen...
Its just unfortunate that you come across as an arrogant prick, but of course thats not your fault eh?:whistle:
Because of that is why people react like they do to your posts ,so young fella if you want folk to take you seriously take a humble pill....
With the right attitude you'll get people wanting to help you...with the wrong one youre just going to get shit.:bash::wait:

[gatch]

Maybe its about time to start a new thread about the 250 twin class that isnt just about Chaos:oi-grr::yawn:
We all want to be fast, but sometimes it pays to just shut the fuck up & listen....:yes:

Yours is the spada yes ?

I know how to fall off those things.. haa

[ducatilover]

Oh goodness the high horse is a bit sick Chaos :whistle:

[ducatilover]

Yours is the spada yes ?

I know how to fall off those things.. haa


:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[puddytat]

Yours is the spada yes ?

I know how to fall off those things.. haa

Im still learning....:msn-wink:
Yup , Im on the Spada.....Had a great time at KOR rnd 2, got the learn from the kids on the 150's though......Rnd 3 is on the 5th of Dec., will try to get under the magic 2:00 mark:whistle:

[gatch]

:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

Yeah you know it.


Im still learning....:msn-wink:
Yup , Im on the Spada.....Had a great time at KOR rnd 2, got the learn from the kids on the 150's though......Rnd 3 is on the 5th of Dec., will try to get under the magic 2:00 mark:whistle:

Maaaate you'll be doing well to keep up with the 150s, almost the same hp and 30kg ? lighter..

Not to be a prick, but if you get beaten by a fuckin hyoslag, I'll roast you good, don't bring the shame to the mighty spartan lol.

[ducatilover]

Yeah you know it.



Maaaate you'll be doing well to keep up with the 150s, almost the same hp and 30kg ? lighter..

Not to be a prick, but if you get beaten by a fuckin hyoslag, I'll roast you good, don't bring the shame to the mighty spartan lol.

We can both bash him if a heavy turd slag beats him. :girlfight:

[RDjase]

Yours is the spada yes ?

I know how to fall off those things.. haa

Your not trying hard enough till you fall off :2thumbsup

[gatch]

I can't remember how many times I'd tipped mine over..

TRying to go too fast, trying to go slow, not looking where I'm going, doing donuts, manuevoring in the shed, hell once I took the wheel off to get a new donut, came home and the thing is one its side leaking gas.. That particular spill even snapped the tacho needle ( which was replaced with a toothpick ha ).

[puddytat]

If I get beaten by a Hyo well I guess a slappings in order eh, but none have turned up yet down here, though I hear there is one in"the pipeline"...:sweatdrop:
Had Oyster come over for a chat ( he's "the man" in charge of streetstock at MCC) & he was very happy to see how the 1st twin had performed against the 2smokers as it was a bit of an experiment for the club. They were wanting a more (cough) modern bike to replace the aging RG's that had similar performance which it turned out the Spada atleast,seems to. A few of them I was definitely quicker down the straights, but the fast fellas I could only gain on by drafting(they were way fasterer out of the corners).Or I'd only gain at the end of the main straight due to the awesome top speed of the Spade. I admit they've got bigger nads than I do, & were carrying more speed at the apex's & sooner on the gas out of them.But thats why Im out there, to learn just that.
Fark, it was a hoot!!:woohoo:
Will be different next time though as I have added:shifty: high spec handle bar grips which will enable me to be more confident under the severe strain of acceleration known to be associated with the Spada.:shit::yes:
:rockon::headbang:

[gatch]

Fark, it was a hoot!!:woohoo:
Will be different next time though as I have added:shifty: high spec handle bar grips which will enable me to be more confident under the severe strain of acceleration known to be associated with the Spada.:shit::yes:
:rockon::headbang:

Good man ! Might want to keep a little bag of nuts handy when you're going at it, the blobs on the bottom of the footpegs wear off pretty quick if your suspension is less than average..

[puddytat]

Yeah your right there man, definitely looking pretty sad the ones that are on it....
Gave me a hell of a fright the first time she ground out hard,spat my foot of the peg musta been thinkin' I was still on the R6 or summin'....modified my riding stance a tad & are shifting me arse of the seat way more & trying to keep the bike as upright as possible,shift lever's also looking a tad worn as well & have moved it up a notch or 2. Think I'll have to get sum aluminium plate & rangi up a set of rearsets for it:yes:
Couple of pics showing my stink style....:oi-grr:

[gatch]

Chur bro haha !!

I just used to have my toes on the pegs and take the weight off the inside one when it touchs terra forma.. Just got to make sure you are in the right gear before you hit the turn :pinch:

Good photers too man ! Sparta represent !

[chaos rider]

152607we didnt take any pics of our own so i had to swindle one lol

[oyster]

Cool photos Puddytat

No78 is Angela, Dennis Charletts wife. The second photo has No18 Leroy on an Rg150, Cam No 17 on an FXR then Glen No88 on a KRR. It doesn't matter what times you're doing, there's always plenty of similar company around in our Streetstock class!

By the way, are any North Islanders going to come down in Jan for the Nationals on their 250 twins?

[puddytat]

They should do...Im not eligible:crybaby:
Easy points for someone if the do:whistle:
Thanks go to Sportzfotoz.co.nz for the pics, plus the support they give to the youngsters in the Sportzfoto cup series:2thumbsup

[RDjase]

I can't remember how many times I'd tipped mine over..

TRying to go too fast, trying to go slow, not looking where I'm going, doing donuts, manuevoring in the shed, hell once I took the wheel off to get a new donut, came home and the thing is one its side leaking gas.. That particular spill even snapped the tacho needle ( which was replaced with a toothpick ha ).

I was nervous about falling off when I started racing(3 yrs ago), then on a practice lap I run over someones broken clutch lever and lost the front at turn 7 at Taupo, It's good when you have got the 1st one out of the way, I think you ride faster and harder once thats been done and you realise how much the gear protects you

[puddytat]

Isnt good gear aweome!! Ive just had the one "off" so far,in the dipper at Ruapuna last year in clubmans:whistle:
Was a slow speed one, but enough to know that Id've been sore without it.:yes:
And as you say, you feel a lot more confident to go hard out ,if youre confident in your gear.

Ive just found out that this coming friday arvo MCC will be having a free training session at Ruapuna which is great as Rnd 3 of King of Ruapuna is on the next day....Us Streetstock rider will have the pleasure of getting the learn from none other than Dominic Jones who last year raced a superbike in the AMA series in the States.:yes:
Also hear that a certain Ginga midget will be there as well who has won the IOM

[woodyracer]

dont worry chaos, the hyosung sponsorship is still up for grabs, ive given it some more thought {not normal for me....:whistle:} and im not going to ride one anymore for various reasons but mainy because its alot of money for a bike that ill only be riding for a year or so. I found a good krr150 in christchurch for 1/3 of the price.

Sorry i came off intruding before. Hope to see you at the taupo road race spectacular. Good luck -Max

[ducatilover]

Oh tradgety :yawn:

[woodyracer]

Oh tradgety :yawn:

indeed, its a compete tradgety

[ducatilover]

indeed, its a compete tradgety

Good choice with a krr though :rockon:

[puddytat]

Toetally..

[ducatilover]

Toetally..

My daily hyundai is about as cool as my level of giving a shit about a hyo race team.....

Cool class though the 250 twins [keeping it on topic] :sweatdrop

[puddytat]

Yeah I think so ...just hope it takes off.The old rg's etc wont last foreva & as most folk start on a 250 bike you'd think it'll only grow with time. (waiting for the 2stroke crew to chime in here:Oi:) Might, with time ,get the bucket fraternity to step up too.
The twins look way cooler:blip::blip::p

[ducatilover]

Yeah I think so ...just hope it takes off.The old rg's etc wont last foreva & as most folk start on a 250 bike you'd think it'll only grow with time. (waiting for the 2stroke crew to chime in here:Oi:) Might, with time ,get the bucket fraternity to step up too.
The twins look way cooler:blip::blip::p

The twins can potentially sound cool too.

[puddytat]

Still cant even hear mine with screamin' smokers everywhere,though my exhaust mod ( several 12mm holes drilled in the end of it) has made it sound a tad cooler....shouldve got that Yoshi pipe that was on tardme for $150....
My mates have said it sounds "electric" flat out down the straight amongst the 2 strokes:o:rofl:

[ducatilover]

Still cant even hear mine with screamin' smokers everywhere,though my exhaust mod ( several 12mm holes drilled in the end of it) has made it sound a tad cooler....shouldve got that Yoshi pipe that was on tardme for $150....
My mates have said it sounds "electric" flat out down the straight amongst the 2 strokes:o:rofl:

The only way to free it up on the exhaust side is getting rid of the whole lot and building some equal length pipes. Or a semi cheating way, make a "Y" section to replace the balance chamber, rip the standard can open and remove all the restrictor plates and baffles and then tune the prick, the rear cylinder will want to be a tiny bit leaner if not equal length. Taking the jets out 5 thou of an inch is ideal [on mine it was, anymore and it gets tricky to tune] :scooter: On the way to 34rwhp!

[gatch]

I just got bored and took a cold chisel to the end cap on the silencer.. Sounded ok, better than the sewing machine it used to be..

Edit - get out of this thread rach, you bully.

[puddytat]

The only way to free it up on the exhaust side is getting rid of the whole lot and building some equal length pipes. Or a semi cheating way, make a "Y" section to replace the balance chamber, rip the standard can open and remove all the restrictor plates and baffles and then tune the prick, the rear cylinder will want to be a tiny bit leaner if not equal length. Taking the jets out 5 thou of an inch is ideal [on mine it was, anymore and it gets tricky to tune] :scooter: On the way to 34rwhp!

Wll look at doing something along those lines this winter DL,but it'll have a bit to do wtih MCC being O.K with my jap import....:whistle::sweatdrop
I may have to look at getting a Ninja Ex or "cough, cough" a Hyosung, though Im not bi-ass'd towards either at the mo....advantage of the Hyo being all the tuning tips etc that Chaos will be able to give me , eh Chaos bro !!;)

Im looking fwd to when the Ninja I hear is being prepared, finally turns up....will be interesting to compare the two. One of the main comments that has come up has been the lack of fairings on the Spada....& the lack of repairs because of that= less cost.Another reason that when & if I get something else, a nekkid bike may be the way to go with just a bikini fairing i.e, a modern VT or the nekkid Hyo.

[woodyracer]

Yeah I think so ...just hope it takes off.The old rg's etc wont last foreva & as most folk start on a 250 bike you'd think it'll only grow with time. (waiting for the 2stroke crew to chime in here:Oi:) Might, with time ,get the bucket fraternity to step up too.
The twins look way cooler:blip::blip::p

my bikes a 2003 model, so thats not too old......it should be around for a few years to come. But even rg's are still going fine.....

id say 150 2 smokers will last abit longer.....

[Hiflyer]

my bikes a 2003 model, so thats not too old......it should be around for a few years to come. But even rg's are still going fine.....

id say 150 2 smokers will last abit longer.....

What kind of bike is it?

cbf'd reading through the posts to find out

[woodyracer]

What kind of bike is it?

cbf'd reading through the posts to find out

kawasaki ninja 150 or known as a krr150,

[Mully]

Did I miss something?

I thought Woodyracer had a free ride on a "factory" Hyo that he took and Chaos wanted??

Woody, were you expected to pay for the bike?

[woodyracer]

Did I miss something?

I thought Woodyracer had a free ride on a "factory" Hyo that he took and Chaos wanted??

Woody, were you expected to pay for the bike?

i was, but at a reduced rate......but even at that reduced rate its still alot more expensive than my krr150......

I'll be reay for protwins soon'ish so i dont want to go and buy an expensive bike, i might get a hyosung when it comes to pro-twin time, but ill have to see how jay laurence does, to see if there up there with the SV'S.

I liked the hyosung when i rode it, but it didnt challenge me enough that i thought i could ride one for a couple of years and not get bored of it.

if i can have the same fun on a $3000 krr than im happy with that.

-Max

[Mully]

Oh.

Alright then, thanks for the clarification.

Not sure what Chaos was so excited about now. A pay-your-own-way "Factory" ride.

I can understand in NZ having to meet your own expenses, but I would have thought the bike was gratis at least.

[puddytat]

if i can have the same fun on a $3000 krr than im happy with that.

-Max

Cant fault that logic.

[woodyracer]

Oh.

Alright then, thanks for the clarification.

Not sure what Chaos was so excited about now. A pay-your-own-way "Factory" ride.

I can understand in NZ having to meet your own expenses, but I would have thought the bike was gratis at least.

according to Ken id have to get some promising results before my bike started being payed off by hyosung.

[Ragingrob]

according to Ken id have to get some promising results before my bike started being payed off by hyosung.

Really??? Who woulda thought huh :gob:

[ducatilover]

Oh well, Krr should be a giggle!

[woodyracer]

Oh well, Krr should be a giggle!

how do you mean a giggle?

[ducatilover]

how do you mean a giggle?

A laugh, fun, tingle sensations in the pubic bone, fart etc :whistle:

[chaos rider]

according to Ken id have to get some promising results before my bike started being payed off by hyosung.

i already have a hyosung. so my free ride would be free race entry and free parts if god forbid i drop it

i dont need another hyosung that ill then have to spend time and energy setting up for myself.

hey max have you got kens number ive lost it. could you pm me his number if you have it. thanks

[woodyracer]

i already have a hyosung. so my free ride would be free race entry and free parts if god forbid i drop it

i dont need another hyosung that ill then have to spend time and energy setting up for myself.

hey max have you got kens number ive lost it. could you pm me his number if you have it. thanks

i just talked to him from 0800 hyosung

[rachprice]

I just got bored and took a cold chisel to the end cap on the silencer.. Sounded ok, better than the sewing machine it used to be..

Edit - get out of this thread rach, you bully.

Aye? Im not a bully!

[chaos rider]

i just talked to him from 0800 hyosung

thanks, i had his direct line number but i cleaaned my room and it did a Harry Houdini and i havent seen it since.

[gatch]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Houdini%20or%20Hudini

If you did this to your better half, I would have new found respect for you young man.

[puddytat]

thanks, i had his direct line number but i cleaaned my room and it did a Harry Houdini and i havent seen it since.

I thought your Mum cleaned your room bro:yeah:

[woodyracer]

lets get back on topic aye...:laugh: anyway, chaos you better enter the road race spectacular .....because entries close soon....

[RDjase]

lets get back on topic aye...:laugh: anyway, chaos you better enter the road race spectacular .....because entries close soon....

Topic? Did this thread have a topic:lol:
TRRS is a cool meeting chaos, Get your entry in ! Ive entered in pre 82 (RD) and pre 89 (TZR or RGV) which ever one is back together in time
Back to my shed now, There is a hill climb on tomorro that th Rd will be "run in " at , and the engine is sitting on my bench still

[woodyracer]

god luck with the RD have you found a reason for the random engine problems?

i think at one stage we were talking about how choas is setting his bike up, {thats was about 70 pages ago...lol}

[chaos rider]

god luck with the RD have you found a reason for the random engine problems?

i think at one stage we were talking about how choas is setting his bike up, {thats was about 70 pages ago...lol}

well after many many many laps and changes to the suspension im confident i can hit jenian corner in 5th pinned if not half pinned. should give me an extra second off my time there. plus ill gain some more ground in castrol.

so im aiming for a 1.22-1.25 this weekend at the race.

trrs looks like a no go. need to save up for new transport (STILL:angry2:)

[ducatilover]

well after many many many laps and changes to the suspension im confident i can hit jenian corner in 5th pinned if not half pinned. should give me an extra second off my time there. plus ill gain some more ground in castrol.

so im aiming for a 1.22-1.25 this weekend at the race.

trrs looks like a no go. need to save up for new transport (STILL:angry2:)

Sounds fun dude! How much adjustments has your bike got in terms of suspension? That's one thing I never really looked at on Hyosungs. I just assumed it was rear pre-load only.

[meowmix]

As far as the rear goes, it is just preload. Then on the front you can add shims etc and change the oil. Thats about as far as it goes. Can slap a gixxer shock in without too much hassle though, that'd be nice.

[puddytat]

Only thing your allowed to change in the forks are wieght of oil & quantity..."all other fork internals must remain as originally supplied by the machines manufacturer"

[gatch]

Adding shims for preload is counted as modified internals ?

[puddytat]

Id've thought.....
I talked with a young fella at the races over the weekend, he was going to get in touuch with MNZ to "clarify"....
Guess who got first in King of Ruapuna Streetstock Senior :whistle:
helped a tad by being the only one in the class
Still it looks nice on the shelf;)

[chaos rider]

As far as the rear goes, it is just preload. Then on the front you can add shims etc and change the oil. Thats about as far as it goes. Can slap a gixxer shock in without too much hassle though, that'd be nice.

for this class you can only use stock shocks but the rear spring can be changed and you can put shims in the front shocks


edit: i did ask the class oficials at amcc

[gatch]

Id've thought.....
I talked with a young fella at the races over the weekend, he was going to get in touuch with MNZ to "clarify"....
Guess who got first in King of Ruapuna Streetstock Senior :whistle:
helped a tad by being the only one in the class
Still it looks nice on the shelf;)

Lol !!!

A win is a win aye :D

[puddytat]

for this class you can only use stock shocks but the rear spring can be changed and you can put shims in the front shocks


edit: i did ask the class oficials at amcc

Cool....Im going to start fiddling. Now where is that pvc tubing....

Im going to race the bitch in F3 at Nelson Port races:scooter:

[RDjase]

god luck with the RD have you found a reason for the random engine problems?

i think at one stage we were talking about how choas is setting his bike up, {thats was about 70 pages ago...lol}

Yep. found the problem, The crank centre pin twisted and the 2 cranks halves got out of phase . One piston at BDC and the other one 8mm still down the bore. Checked the timing and left 1.5mm BTDC and right 9.5mm No wonder the piston from the 2nd blow up looks like it had been gas cut lol. The 1st seize on the saturday I think the crank may have moved slighty and let go all together on sunday(after getting my PB too:woohoo:)
I spose it does put a bit of strain on a crank with a top gear sieze at 9500rpm, new tyre too only done 15 laps and a big flat spot

[gatch]

Cool....Im going to start fiddling. Now where is that pvc tubing....

Im going to race the bitch in F3 at Nelson Port races:scooter:

Mint, I used to cane around the port on my spada, not race conditions of course but still.. That would be bad as fuck..


Yep. found the problem, The crank centre pin twisted and the 2 cranks halves got out of phase . One piston at BDC and the other one 8mm still down the bore. Checked the timing and left 1.5mm BTDC and right 9.5mm No wonder the piston from the 2nd blow up looks like it had been gas cut lol. The 1st seize on the saturday I think the crank may have moved slighty and let go all together on sunday(after getting my PB too:woohoo:)
I spose it does put a bit of strain on a crank with a top gear sieze at 9500rpm, new tyre too only done 15 laps and a big flat spot

Oh dear.. A fella I know who races a hotrod h2, holed the middle piston at the last round of the classics register, turns out he had swapped tank breathers over when he had the tank painted, the breather was completely gummed up, with the bike running on methanol it was drinking gas and obviously couldn't suck enough in.. Lucky it didn't nuke the whole motor, at one point it did a massive back fire and blew an air filter to pieces..

[puddytat]

[QUOTE=gatch;1129559433]Mint, I used to cane around the port on my spada, not race conditions of course but still.. That would be bad as fuck..QUOTE]

Its one of those things on my "to do" list.....sat on the sideline for years thinking "thats got to be a major buzz":doobey:
Feeling a lot more relaxed about this than when Greymouth was looming...:blink::shit:
.Not nearly as many power poles, seats,concrete rubbish bins as Greymouth either, though as soon as we got going I promptly forgot that anyway...:brick::cool:

[ducatilover]

So you can shim the front springs? Cool, make them bind. I dare you.

[puddytat]

Cut the tight winds off & make right length spacer maybee....?
Do you think Bindage could be a problem?
Be alot simpler to put the right spring innit eh.:scratch:

[sil3nt]

So was he racing this weekend?

[gatch]

Cut the tight winds off & make right length spacer maybee....?
Do you think Bindage could be a problem?
Be alot simpler to put the right spring innit eh.:scratch:

this was suggested to me even by robert taylor.. only cut a wee bit off at a time though..

[chaos rider]

So was he racing this weekend?

yup

learnt a few things about bike setup and changing gears mid courner

and im now on the hyosung pro light race team. (not sponcerd just on the team.) their marketing budget is tied up with jay on the 650.

154583yay team shirt. i worked hard to earn it. shaved 5 seconds off my time over the weekend.

[woodyracer]

good stuff chaos.....ken's a great guy so hopefully you fella's do well.

did any other 250's turn up?

[chaos rider]

good stuff chaos.....ken's a great guy so hopefully you fella's do well.

did any other 250's turn up?

yeah we had lots of fun. there was one other 240 twin in the group, a 2002 gpx250 with an aparent 37bhp at the wheel ( we soon made it useless)

me and ken had the jump on the line. ken raced off with all his awsomeness and i did my best to block the kwaka and give ken biggest gap possible so the kwaka couldnt see kens lines. i was soon passed on the straight though but regained my place through the hairpin and the following corners however it was not enough for the front straight where the kwaka got passed me and all i could do was sit on his arse for the remaining 4 laps.

3rd every race with a best time of 1.30 ken managed to brake the 1.25 mark with a 1.24

all the kwaka could manage was 1.28 lol avrage of 1.29

[woodyracer]

its show' that it does come down to rider if ken was able to beat the gpx, the class is starting to take off aye.....
Is ken going to do the road race spectactualr?

[chaos rider]

its show' that it does come down to rider if ken was able to beat the gpx, the class is starting to take off aye.....
Is ken going to do the road race spectactualr?

doesnt look like it

[RDjase]

its show' that it does come down to rider if ken was able to beat the gpx, the class is starting to take off aye.....
Is ken going to do the road race spectactualr?

the entry list is on TRRS website,

Cheers for letting Tyler ride your CBR at RoysHill Max:niceone: he hasn't stopped talking about it, Shopping time for me now lol.

We got to the track at 4pm, all locked up then. Had a good ride , Central HB roads are great. 12 bikes or more. 300 kms riden and only 5km on main roads, 1 km of shingle

[woodyracer]

the entry list is on TRRS website,

Cheers for letting Tyler ride your CBR at RoysHill Max:niceone: he hasn't stopped talking about it, Shopping time for me now lol.

We got to the track at 4pm, all locked up then. Had a good ride , Central HB roads are great. 12 bikes or more. 300 kms riden and only 5km on main roads, 1 km of shingle

thats good to hear tyler enjoyed it, he sounded like he was ready for a big bike, he was very confident which is a good sign.

see you at the TRRS. -Max

[SS90]

yeah we had lots of fun. there was one other 240 twin in the group, a 2002 gpx250 with an aparent 37bhp at the wheel ( we soon made it useless)

i was soon passed on the straight though but regained my place through the hairpin and the following corners however it was not enough for the front straight where the kwaka got passed me and all i could do was sit on his arse for the remaining 4 laps.

3rd every race with a best time of 1.30 ken managed to brake the 1.25 mark with a 1.24

all the kwaka could manage was 1.28 lol avrage of 1.29

So, I guess that you are now starting to see that as lovely looking as the Hyosungs are, they are a bit down on power compared to the Japanese stuff aye.... not to worry, having someone who runs at a slightly faster pace than you is a great way to improve your skill set...... keep it up!:clap:

[chaos rider]

So, I guess that you are now starting to see that as lovely looking as the Hyosungs are, they are a bit down on power compared to the Japanese stuff aye.... not to worry, having someone who runs at a slightly faster pace than you is a great way to improve your skill set...... keep it up!:clap:

no his extra power ment nothing to us off the line i beat the kwaka and ken of the lights and jumped 2 rows of the grid till the f3 flew past down the straights and ken passed me round the hairpin

i just got to learn to hold my corner speed and balls it a bit more but im not confident in my setup, getting some things changed in the next few weeks.

at puki and taupo its the torque in corners that make the difrence. and the hyo's have more torque then the gpx. proved this by taking the gpx on the outside on any of the corners. the gpxx only has like 5k/hr on us in acceleration down the straight but we have higher top speed. hence ken's lap time of 1.24 and the gpx's of 1.28

all i got to do is get faster in the corners. and shaving 2.5 seconds off every 3 races isnt bad. after 6 races over 2 days i went from a best time of 1.36 to 1.30. ken went from 1.28 to 1.24 he said hes not happy with the tires he has got and there is at least another second if not two to be gained with better tires

[woodyracer]

at puki and taupo



but you havnt been to taupo......there's a big big long straight there on track1 layout....

[RDjase]

at puki and taupo



but you havnt been to taupo......there's a big big long straight there on track1 layout....


The track 2 layout is great, That looong straight to much for my posty bike, I'm hard out halfway down it and if I go taller gearing it's to boggy in the tight stuff

[woodyracer]

The track 2 layout is great, That looong straight to much for my posty bike, I'm hard out halfway down it and if I go taller gearing it's to boggy in the tight stuff

yup track 2 is awsome for smaller bikes.....although track 5 is even funner

[chaos rider]

yup track 2 is awsome for smaller bikes.....although track 5 is even funner

the 250 lights run the one with the kink down the back straghit. and even if they kept the straight open hed lose us in the corners so fast. he doesnt have the torque to power out like we do.

[woodyracer]

the 250 lights run the one with the kink down the back straghit. and even if they kept the straight open hed lose us in the corners so fast. he doesnt have the torque to power out like we do.

what raicgn series are oyu talking aobut mr.chaos?? the TRRS is running the short track {so no full back straight}, and the PMCC is goign to run full track {entire back-straight}

Chaos are oyu going to run the rest of the PMCC series with Ken?

Im going to do the rest of the protecta series next year on my krr150 in F3 for abit of fun so you'll have another similar bike to race up against.

[SS90]

no his extra power ment nothing to us off the line i beat the kwaka and ken of the lights and jumped 2 rows of the grid till the f3 flew past down the straights and ken passed me round the hairpin

i just got to learn to hold my corner speed and balls it a bit more but im not confident in my setup, getting some things changed in the next few weeks.

at puki and taupo its the torque in corners that make the difrence. and the hyo's have more torque then the gpx. proved this by taking the gpx on the outside on any of the corners. the gpxx only has like 5k/hr on us in acceleration down the straight but we have higher top speed. hence ken's lap time of 1.24 and the gpx's of 1.28

all i got to do is get faster in the corners. and shaving 2.5 seconds off every 3 races isnt bad. after 6 races over 2 days i went from a best time of 1.36 to 1.30. ken went from 1.28 to 1.24 he said hes not happy with the tires he has got and there is at least another second if not two to be gained with better tires


Now Chaosrider,

You know I encourage your racing endeavours, but in the interests of improving your knowledge and skill set, it would be wise (and timely) to realise that what you have just written in the above post is utter bollocks.

Power is nothing of the start line?
A Hyosung has more torque than a Japper 250 twin?
Torque makes you fast around the corners?
The GPX has 5 Kph in acceleration over you but the Hysungs have a higher top speed?

This was all proved by the fact that ken did 1.24 compared to 1.28...........

NO NO NO NO Chaos.

Ken did a 1.24 because he was faster in the corners.

Think of it this way.
How can a 42 horsepower 125cc GP bike lap faster than a 80 horsepower 450cc inline 4 4 stroke.

It's not difficult mate.

[woodyracer]

im with you on that one SS90, chaos is talking rubbish, chaos why are you mocking the guy on the gpx250 when he beat you fair & square???
im sure he wouldnt be mocking you.

Dont go talking about taupo until you've ridden there yourself. Torque wise the gpx is up there and is isnt down on the hyosungs, remember i have ridden ken's race bike, and to be honest the torque isnt amazing, but the handling is awsome. Top end speed gpx would be better, but again the hyosung handles realy well and the gpx is an older bike.