Operation Mataki - SH75 to Akaroa

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...wot?...a tired cunt like me...maybe....

[dangerous]

...wot?...a tired cunt like me...maybe....well... c@#t anyway :bleh:

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...thanks... good to be kept straight...

[dangerous]

6:30 sunday morning... and I see rastuscat on line, man you must be biting at the bit to get to work LOL, massive frost out this way... me Im up thanks to 2 sprogs *sigh*

[jimichelle]

A mate of mine is a train driver. Bet your ass he was not speeding. If you think the penalties for speeding on a bike are draconian, try losing your livelihood for getting pinged. And if you have any sort of incident. Anything at all, the first thing they do is piss test you.

The amount of people who dont see trains is staggering. sometimes they die.and sometimes its the train driver who dies after truck didnt see train rip dad

[HenryDorsetCase]

and sometimes its the train driver who dies after truck didnt see train rip dad

thats unlucky. Did the truck hit the train so hard it derailed?

[merv]

and sometimes its the train driver who dies after truck didnt see train rip dad

Was that the Queensland crash a few years ago?

[rastuscat]

Used up the months issue of warnings today.

Stopped and spoke to 5 riders who were, ahem, riding at speeds that the highway patrol would have written them tickets for. Once I had warned the first guy, I found it impossible to write anyone else tickets. Some days it happens like that.

When I was heading out that way I was overtaken by an ambulance. Hope it wasn't one of us.

I need to HTFU. As nice as it was to ride out there today, I was a bit frustrated at the number of folk I had to talk to about minor alterations to their F***ING SPEED. Also out there today was a Highways marked car, and a plain speed camera van. I have no idea on how that went, but I imagine some riders have lighter wallets than they had this morning.

Also chatted to a bloke who had fitted new tyres, and was weaving madly across the roadway at low speed. Scrubbing the tyres in, I'm advised. Anyway, Mr Rossi was sent on his way with advice to scrub them in without riding LIKE A KNOB.

Wrote a ticket for a cage driver though. Grrrrrr.

Lots more bikes heading out that way as the weather improves. Next time it's my turn I'll come out with my game face on.

See yaz.

[Berries]

Stopped and spoke to 5 riders who were, ahem, riding at speeds that the highway patrol would have written them tickets for.
105 or 135?

[Subike]

Saw the Highway Patrol car reducing the value of a triumph owners wallet just south of TaiTapu.

He was heading towards chch

Thought to myself, silly place to get a ticket, must have been going over the limit when going though TaiTapu .

[Kickaha]

Also chatted to a bloke who had fitted new tyres, and was weaving madly across the roadway at low speed. Scrubbing the tyres in, I'm advised.
What a cock

Saw the Highway Patrol car reducing the value of a triumph owners wallet just south of TaiTapu..
Friday /Saturday they obviously couldn't be arsed going out hunting so they had the Northen Motorway staked out, cause it's an obvious accident blackspot :whistle:

[rastuscat]

105 or 135?

111 kmh Firestorm

113 kmh R80GS

119 kmh overtaking Fireblade

109 kmh friendly reminder only

122 undisclosed, coz I don't want anyone guessing who the lucky bastard was.

Trouble is, in disclosing this, I could get in the shit for not having taken enforcement action.

So sod off.

[Glowerss]

111 kmh Firestorm

113 kmh R80GS

119 kmh overtaking Fireblade

109 kmh friendly reminder only

122 undisclosed, coz I don't want anyone guessing who the lucky bastard was.

Trouble is, in disclosing this, I could get in the shit for not having taken enforcement action.

So sod off.

I've only been in the country a few years so some of the finer points of the road rules here continue to elude me, but isn't there some goofy officially endorsed buffer or tolerance or some such? Always see it on Holiday weekends that the official tolerance goes from 110 to 105 or some such, no? The whole concept amuses me to no end, but I digress.

I fully support the work you do. Not to blow smoke up your ass, but you seem to be the model of what a coppa should be, rather then what some of them are. However, surely 109 is within the "tolerance"? And there isn't a whole lot in it between 110 and 113. I suppose speeding is speeding, but doesn't it get a bit hazey when there's a publicly acknowledged "tolerance" over the limit?

Good on you for nabbing people doing 119+ ect. But iunno, doesn't seem to be a lot in it at 109 or whatever. Particularly if they're on machines capable of doing twice that or more. If they're riding like knobs though, good on you!

But fuck I wasn't there so I dont know :) Just an observation imo. I nana ride so I have no stake in this.

[dangerous]

111 kmh Firestorm

113 kmh R80GS

119 kmh overtaking Fireblade

109 kmh friendly reminder only

122 undisclosed, coz I don't want anyone guessing who the lucky bastard was.

Trouble is, in disclosing this, I could get in the shit for not having taken enforcement action.

So sod off.

good cunt is what comes to mind, IMHO such warnings do more good than tickets...

[Jantar]

... but isn't there some goofy officially endorsed buffer or tolerance or some such? Always see it on Holiday weekends that the official tolerance goes from 110 to 105 or some such, no? The whole concept amuses me to no end, but I digress.....

As I understand it, it isn't so much a 10 kmh tolerance, as a discretionary area. Within the 100 - 110 kmh the cop has discretion as to whether or not to give a ticket. Above 110 he is supposed to give a ticket.

Fortunately, there are some members of our police force who can think for themselves rather than be told exactly what to do.

[Drew]

good cunt is what comes to mind, IMHO such warnings do more good than tickets...Ya reckon? I've always thought pricks like me are always gonna speed, and some folk will from time to time. The time to time ones will get a ticket or a warning and stop doing it, I'll just consider it bad luck, and carry on relying on my ability to choose where I can safely push the speed up a bit.

[Subike]

good cunt is what comes to mind, IMHO such warnings do more good than tickets...



Plus 1 for ya Dan, agree that warnings like this can do more good. Reminders at the beginning of the season are far better than walking

[dangerous]

Ya reckon? I've always thought pricks like me are always gonna speed, and some folk will from time to time. The time to time ones will get a ticket or a warning and stop doing it, I'll just consider it bad luck, and carry on relying on my ability to choose where I can safely push the speed up a bit.hey Im hearing ya man... Im the same BUT today I figgered I'd resepct the thread starters heads up and go straight, no rego etc so borrowed a bike only 3800k on it never exceded the speed limit did everything right, added to rasta's stats... go figger :mad:

[Oakie]

good cunt is what comes to mind, IMHO such warnings do more good than tickets...

And I wonder how much impact this thread has had on bikers speeds on Sh75 (well KBers speeds anyway) given that we all know Mr Rastuscat and colleagues will be lurking each weekend? Not much probably but I guess there'll be a few carrying donuts under the seat just in case.

[dangerous]

And I wonder how much impact this thread has had on bikers speeds on Sh75 (well KBers speeds anyway) given that we all know Mr Rastuscat and colleagues will be lurking each weekend? Not much probably but I guess there'll be a few carrying donuts under the seat just in case.thats not the point tho aye, sure Rasta's could be a publicity stunt he may not give a rats arse about us and I proved the point today that being all goodie to shoes can end ya up on ya arse the same way 'speed' is ment to, yes once the op Mataki is over Ill be back to my old ways, never caused harm in the past, but alas RC has a job to do, cant hassle him for that.

[onearmedbandit]

And I wonder how much impact this thread has had on bikers speeds on Sh75 (well KBers speeds anyway) given that we all know Mr Rastuscat and colleagues will be lurking each weekend? Not much probably but I guess there'll be a few carrying donuts under the seat just in case.

Oh a few I know well won't ride it now.

[cruza]

hey Im hearing ya man... Im the same BUT today I figgered I'd resepct the thread starters heads up and go straight, no rego etc so borrowed a bike only 3800k on it never exceded the speed limit did everything right, added to rasta's stats... go figger :mad:

Ya probably need too do one of those acc rider training courses D , heard they a great help to those useless over 40 returning riders like yourself that haven't done much riding the last few years......
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[SVboy]

Ya probably need too do one of those acc rider training courses D , heard they a great help to those useless over 40 returning riders like yourself that haven't done much riding the last few years......
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Oh you gunna get it now boy!

[dangerous]

If I wasnt in so much pain Id LOUGH with ya's... or bash ya silly, now fuck off its old man bed time, some wounds to lick first :niceone:

[cruza]

Oh you gunna get it now boy!

Not the only one , got a scorpio at home with bent bars, forks after a 'girls arvo round the bays'

[rastuscat]

I've only been in the country a few years so some of the finer points of the road rules here continue to elude me, but isn't there some goofy officially endorsed buffer or tolerance or some such? Always see it on Holiday weekends that the official tolerance goes from 110 to 105 or some such, no? The whole concept amuses me to no end, but I digress.

I fully support the work you do. Not to blow smoke up your ass, but you seem to be the model of what a coppa should be, rather then what some of them are. However, surely 109 is within the "tolerance"? And there isn't a whole lot in it between 110 and 113. I suppose speeding is speeding, but doesn't it get a bit hazey when there's a publicly acknowledged "tolerance" over the limit?

Smirk.

Here's a chance to outlay the history of speed enforcement since I started in 1989.

I started in Orkers, and we used to have a 20 kmh tolerance. Go 20 or more over, you'd get a ticket. Go 19 or less over, we wouldn't even stop you.

In Invercargill the Traffic Nazis enforced a 6 kmnh tolerance. If you drove down Dee Street at 57 or more the locals all thought you were Evel Kneivel, coz they knew Cockrofts Cowboys would nail you to the wall.

So, we had a situation where the tolerance was set by the Popos who were working in that area. The public just accepted it, bitched about revenue collecting, but at least everyone knew where they stood. Traffic cops were areseholes, and the public were happy to at least know where they stood.

In 1992 along came the Police. They took over the traffic dept, and the grey areas started to get even greyer. You didn't know whether the cop who stopped you was a real policeman, or one of those bloodt traffic bastards. If the ticket book came out, your answer was there.

The orange and blue cars were for the real Policemen, the yellow and blue ones were for traffic cops. It took a few years for that scheme to develop. It took those years for each Police district to work out how it was going to manage the new workload i.e. the traffic enforcement it now had to do. See, the Police were then contracted to do the work that had previously been done by the black and whites. Eventually, each district settled on setting up Strategic Traffic Units (STUs), the core traffic groups.

A couple of senior Popos went to Parliament, summonsed by George Hawkins. They presented a well researched proposal to establish a road policing strategy, with all the analysis, cost benefits etc. It had taken months of work to develop. George didn't like it, so gave them 20 minutes to come up with a new idea. And thus was born the Highway Patrol.

While all this circus was going on, in 1993 the Speed Camera operation started. The tolerance for cameras was set at that spurious engineering measure known as the 85th percentile. Problem was, it was very easy to manipulate the 85th percentile, as it was measured by cameras themselves, during surveys. If you wanted a lower tolerance, you would do the survey in a more overt way, causing the traffic to slow down, and this lowering the 85th percentile, and the tolerance. The saving grace was that the cameras would not trigger below 11 over a given limit, except outside schools.

So you had a situation where the cops in Auckland were allowing 20 kmh, the cops in Invergiggle were allowing 6, cameras were mostly set to 11 over. How anyone knew what was acceptable was a mystery.

So, someone in management drew a line in the metaphorical sand, and set it at 10 over a given limit. Except outside schools, or for trucks, or for towing a trailer, or in road works. I think it was the late Steve Fitz, now there was a future thinker. Genuinely decent and clever man, that man. We told the country that it was okay to do up to 10 over any given limit, as we'd let you go thta fast and not bust you.

But hold on, THAT wasn't actually what we said. The full policy was that anyone exceeding the speed limit even by 1 kmh was to be stopped. 1-10 kmh over was to get a warning, 11 or more was to get a ticket. Exceopt there were so many just driving at 10 over that we couldn't do it. Also, even the Nazi cops felt naff stopping someone and warning them for 2 or 3 ks over. So we generally don't.

And look whats happened. I stopped a woman on the Orkers north motorway in the early days at 113. She inssisted that she was entitled to get a ticket for only 3 kmh over, as we had said that it was okay to do 110, and she was only 3 km over that. FECK ME.

Even now, the tolerance is contentious. Outside schools it's 4 kmh, we write at 5. Within 250 metres of a school boundary. From 0800-1600 Mon to Fri, or at any other time there are lots of kids there i.e. Saturday sport. It's 4 kmh if you are driving a truck, or in a light vehicle towing a trailer. It's 4 kmh in road works.

Now, all this is about the official tolerance. How many times have you driven past a Popo car, knowing that you'd just been caught, when the Popo car just drove on, making it to the Donut shop and leaving you to unpucker.

Then there's the cops who stop you and send you on your way, nil ticket in hand, even though you may have been over the tolerance. It's called discretion, and every constabulary member is empowered to exercise discretion. It's fair to say that some exercise more discretion than others. It's a very subjective judgement. A word of caution; what you think might be reasonable might not be what the Popo thinks is reasonable. If you exceed the tolerance, you empower the Popo to make the decision as to whether you get the ticket or not. Don't exceed the tolerance, then expect the Popo to exercise discretion. That's the road to disappointment.

In hindsight, what I did toady flies in the face of what I actually believe; that folk are entitled to know that we write tickets at 11 over. What I have done is encourage 5 riders to believe that what they did was actually okay.
My bad, in hindsight. Yeah, it feels nice to have the riders say thankyou and speak to you like they think you're a decent bastard, but haven't I actually muddied the waters a little?

I also, conflictingly, think that some of the roadside discussions I had might just do some good. They all went fairly well, and I got to preach the road safety gospel a bit. Not bad. I didn't miss that opportunity. I guess there's value in that. Beyond making myself feel like a decent bloke.

[Berries]

In hindsight, what I did toady flies in the face of what I actually believe; that folk are entitled to know that we write tickets at 11 over. What I have done is encourage 5 riders to believe that what they did was actually okay.
My bad, in hindsight. Yeah, it feels nice to have the riders say thankyou and speak to you like they think you're a decent bastard, but haven't I actually muddied the waters a little?
It goes without saying that we would all prefer a warning than a ticket. But a warning lasts for what? Until the next bend when they are out of sight? Until the day after? Demerits last for two years and if you are siting on 80 of them you must be thinking a bit more about your speed than if you got a finger wagging a few weeks earlier. Unluckily for you you are in a no win situation.

I guess the question is, although those five guys think you are a good bastard, did their speeds change after having a chat? I doubt it, in fact they probably now think that the tolerance has increased to whatever speed you got them at.

[rastuscat]

It goes without saying that we would all prefer a warning than a ticket. But a warning lasts for what? Until the next bend when they are out of sight? Until the day after? Demerits last for two years and if you are siting on 80 of them you must be thinking a bit more about your speed than if you got a finger wagging a few weeks earlier. Unluckily for you you are in a no win situation.

I guess the question is, although those five guys think you are a good bastard, did their speeds change after having a chat? I doubt it, in fact they probably now think that the tolerance has increased to whatever speed you got them at.

Zackery. That's why I'm conflicted.

[Subike]

It goes without saying that we would all prefer a warning than a ticket. But a warning lasts for what? Until the next bend when they are out of sight? Until the day after? Demerits last for two years and if you are siting on 80 of them you must be thinking a bit more about your speed than if you got a finger wagging a few weeks earlier. Unluckily for you you are in a no win situation.

I guess the question is, although those five guys think you are a good bastard, did their speeds change after having a chat? I doubt it, in fact they probably now think that the tolerance has increased to whatever speed you got them at.

I agree with Berries on this. Next week when you stop them for doing the same, they will cry wolf about today, arguing that your not being consistent and are just a cunt.
Fear of loosing their license unfortunately is the better option,
IMO, if it had been a single rider, discretion might work, when its a group, egos take over and we become arrogant bastards.

[rastuscat]

I agree with Berries on this. Next week when you stop them for doing the same, they will cry wolf about today, arguing that your not being consistent and are just a cunt.
Fear of loosing their license unfortunately is the better option,
IMO, if it had been a single rider, discretion might work, when its a group, egos take over and we become arrogant bastards.

My thoughts too.

A reality is that if you warn the first guy you come across, its harder to write the second guy a ticket. Our general rule of having a good donut day it to write the first thing you see when you exit the Snake Pit, and the day will flow. Warn or ignore the first offence, and it's a slippery slope to doing bugger all.

Its a sign of maturity in an enforcement Popo though to accept that sometimes, slow days happen. No stress, better days are just a day away.

[mossy1200]

My thoughts too.

A reality is that if you warn the first guy you come across, its harder to write the second guy a ticket. Our general rule of having a good donut day it to write the first thing you see when you exit the Snake Pit, and the day will flow. Warn or ignore the first offence, and it's a slippery slope to doing bugger all.

Its a sign of maturity in an enforcement Popo though to accept that sometimes, slow days happen. No stress, better days are just a day away.

Idd rather the penalty points were by discretion based on attitude and situation and the fine was automatic on being pulled over.

[Scuba_Steve]

It goes without saying that we would all prefer a warning than a ticket. But a warning lasts for what? Until the next bend when they are out of sight? Until the day after? Demerits last for two years and if you are siting on 80 of them you must be thinking a bit more about your speed than if you got a finger wagging a few weeks earlier. Unluckily for you you are in a no win situation.

I guess the question is, although those five guys think you are a good bastard, did their speeds change after having a chat? I doubt it, in fact they probably now think that the tolerance has increased to whatever speed you got them at.

Ticket lasts for how long? I've been dead since before I was born & I'll be dead until I die (or so the propaganda tells me). For awhile there I was getting quite a nice collection of toilet paper going (they could make that stuff a bit softer tho, it's like the old public toilet wax paper) has it slowed me down??? Not 1 fucking bit, will it ever??? yea, about the same time that scam & it's toilet paper starts magically saving lives... Which I expect to be around the same time I'm handed NZ

[Rhys]

It goes without saying that we would all prefer a warning than a ticket. But a warning lasts for what? Until the next bend when they are out of sight? Until the day after? Demerits last for two years and if you are siting on 80 of them you must be thinking a bit more about your speed than if you got a finger wagging a few weeks earlier. Unluckily for you you are in a no win situation.

I guess the question is, although those five guys think you are a good bastard, did their speeds change after having a chat? I doubt it, in fact they probably now think that the tolerance has increased to whatever speed you got them at.


what about a 'suspended' ticket, its kept on record for 90 days, if there is no other offense its wiped, if your court again you're a clown and you pay the first and second offense

[onearmedbandit]

I agree with Berries on this. Next week when you stop them for doing the same, they will cry wolf about today, arguing that your not being consistent and are just a cunt.
Fear of loosing their license unfortunately is the better option,
IMO, if it had been a single rider, discretion might work, when its a group, egos take over and we become arrogant bastards.

Most riders I know wouldn't cry that. First time was a warning, everyone knows they could've been done. Be stupid enough to be caught doing exactly the same thing next week, or even next year and most people would accept they were now due a ticket. Or maybe that's just me. And I've been stupid enough before. 3 times in two weeks when I was a lot younger, and two of those I received 6mth bans for. Yeah don't ask how that works. I was young and dumb.

[dangerous]

I dont get it... reading above posters including RC now say whats going on ie the warnings and this thread itself is a wast of time, back to screwing alls arse to the wall for 111kph when passing or gliding down a perfectly harmless straight (ie no other traffic) no farking complaining about it then ok?

[Drew]

back to screwing alls arse to the wall for 111kph when passing or gliding down a perfectly harmless straight (ie no other traffic) no farking complaining about it then ok?You're speed is allowed to creep up on those straights you talk about. It's allowed to creep up to 109kph, and it would only creep that far if you were cruising at 100.

So, what did you drop yesterday? Nothing too expensive I hope.

[rastuscat]

You're speed is allowed to creep up on those straights you talk about. It's allowed to creep up to 109kph, and it would only creep that far if you were cruising at 100.

So, what did you drop yesterday? Nothing too expensive I hope.

I'll be bringing a mate out with me next time.

Senior Constable Pierre Hard Bastard.

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Hey, Dangerous, wot happened? PM me if it hurts too much to admit.

[oneofsix]

I'll be bringing a mate out with me next time.

Senior Constable Pierre Hard Bastard.

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Like his uniform but leave him at home.
I don't agree with Berries. You probably did more good with the chat than the ticket, especially a speed scamera one anyhow. The stop is the oh shit moment and then there is thinking over what was said. A ticket can be excused as just a scam. But if the poppo has been more than reasonable sooner or later, maybe over a beer or coffee a few days later when retelling the story, you have to analysis what was said and can't write the popo off a just a bunch of tax collects. This in turn may mean one of the bikers or their mates steps up to assist the cop in the bar fight or at least doesn't show disrespect.

[willytheekid]

Oh a few I know well won't ride it now.

+1

...Theres a pack of shifty buggers over that way that just keep stopping ya to look for there donuts?
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All the Donuts is theres...apparently

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...i wish you would all stay off my driveway...

[Glowerss]

Thanks for the history lesson Rastus. It was a genuine inquiry, as I've heard the tolerance limit being thrown around, but never really understood the hell was the point. There are no speed cameras back home, so there was never any official tolerance. There was a held belief that you were OK so long as you were going no more then 4 mph over the speed limit. Old habits die hard, and so I tend to stick to 5 kph over the speed limit or less.

It's good to know that you can be pulled over for as much as 1kph over. I always figured that the officially endorsed "tolerance" meant that so long as you stuck to within the tolerance you were sweet. Very good to know.

Cheers for that.

[dangerous]

I'll be bringing a mate out with me next time.
Senior Constable Pierre Hard Bastard.
Hey, Dangerous, wot happened? PM me if it hurts too much to admit.less the side arm I hope? and I fucked up, somehow got me buggered really but hey its near 20yrs since I did that shit less a wee situation on the track be more than happy if its another 20years, and Drew, Itialian with 3,000k on it you do the math
The irionic thing about it is op Mataki is about getting the crash rate down, I was doing everything legal yet it still happens so Im not sure Mataki will achieve much, its the nature of the beast in them there hills.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'll be bringing a mate out with me next time.

Senior Constable Pierre Hard Bastard.

Hey, Dangerous, wot happened? PM me if it hurts too much to admit.

He's bad. He's nationwide.

[HenryDorsetCase]

...i wish you would all stay off my driveway...

and your lawn?

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...that's usually later on in the day...

[Kickaha]

I was doing everything legal yet it still happens so Im not sure Mataki will achieve much, its the nature of the beast in them there hills.

Whether you were doing everything legal isn't really relevant

Nature of the beast my arse, it's a bunch fucking dickheads with more balls than brains and always has been on that road

[Oakie]

The ironic thing about it is op Mataki is about getting the crash rate down, I was doing everything legal yet it still happens so Im not sure Mataki will achieve much, its the nature of the beast in them there hills.
Not a loss of concentration because you'd dialled it back a tad perhaps?
I've made a big effort over the last three weeks to leave home earlier so I'm not constantly 3 or 4 minutes late for work (because I had to growl at someone for being constantly 10 minutes late). Anyhow I noticed really quickly that because I no longer needed to push the envelope I had more time to relax, look around and enjoy the trip ... and I nearly came to grief about three times that first week because I wasn't concentrating on the ride at the normal level. I've made the necessary attitude adjustment now so the last week was fine ... but I did find it interesting that lowering my speed and 'creativity' had a negative effect initially.

[dangerous]

Whether you were doing everything legal isn't really relevant

Nature of the beast my arse, it's a bunch fucking dickheads with more balls than brains and always has been on that roadhang on Warwick... ya not putting me in there are ya, you know my skills, how many riders cold have done what we did at Teratonga in that weather, that was farking good riding/racing, Id never bash your skills, as for me yesterday, I duno but hey Im 1st to say I fucked up, just dont know how, maybe it was getting out of bed? my point was sometimes it aint the dickheads that turn turtle. If you did the milage I do each year, how would that increase you chance of arse sliding LOL, mind you Ive seen you do that too :msn-wink:


Not a loss of concentration because you'd dialled it back a tad perhaps?
I've made a big effort over the last three weeks to leave home earlier so I'm not constantly 3 or 4 minutes late for work (because I had to growl at someone for being constantly 10 minutes late). Anyhow I noticed really quickly that because I no longer needed to push the envelope I had more time to relax, look around and enjoy the trip ... and I nearly came to grief about three times that first week because I wasn't concentrating on the ride at the normal level. I've made the necessary attitude adjustment now so the last week was fine ... but I did find it interesting that lowering my speed and 'creativity' had a negative effect initially.Ya know what, I did think of that, in fact just before reading your post I sent a PM away saying maybe I wasnt as tuned in as I might normally be, cos I was more laid back... hey look I dont like looking for excuses, only one at fult here is me, like above quote to Kickaha, but all I can come up with is a at least 5yr old tyre sudenly woken up worn in but stickeless, that and the owner put 36psi in it, 2psi more than I would have considering the days temp, either way i trashed the very last V2 Tuono to come off the production line :tugger: <--- thats me

[onearmedbandit]

that and the owner put 36psi in it, 2psi more than I would have considering the days temp, either way i trashed the very last V2 Tuono to come off the production line :tugger: <--- thats me

Yup, 2psi is all it takes these days...

[dangerous]

Yup, 2psi is all it takes these days...your taking the piss yeah? I wouldnt a thought 2psi cold would make sfa differance, then again at the track were we run 27 on skinny slicks 29 can be a BIG differance...

[onearmedbandit]

your taking the piss yeah? I wouldnt a thought 2psi cold would make sfa differance, then again at the track were we run 27 on skinny slicks 29 can be a BIG differance...

Yup taking the piss. Now on a race track, at race pace I can understand 2psi making some difference. But on the road, especially at a moderate pace, nah. Sure there wasn't some grit on the corner...

[dangerous]

Yup taking the piss. Now on a race track, at race pace I can understand 2psi making some difference. But on the road, especially at a moderate pace, nah. Sure there wasn't some grit on the corner...cleaner than a clean thing F

[onearmedbandit]

cleaner than a clean thing F

Was taking the piss about the grit lol. Come on D, suggesting a road crash at moderate speed on the difference between 34 and 36psi is a bit far fetched. Fuck I've ridden fast'ish rides with up to 6-8psi less than my normal and made it back home safe'n'sound.

[Berries]

I don't agree with Berries.
WHAT?


A ticket can be excused as just a scam. But if the poppo has been more than reasonable sooner or later, maybe over a beer or coffee a few days later when retelling the story, you have to analysis what was said and can't write the popo off a just a bunch of tax collects. This in turn may mean one of the bikers or their mates steps up to assist the cop in the bar fight or at least doesn't show disrespect.
I think we need to separate out traffic enforcement from 'real' policing. It will be a bad day when people don't go to their aid because someone got pinged for breaking a law they knew all about. Possibly not the thing to say on KB but what the hell. Not dealing with your burglary or assault case might be a different matter, but traffic?

[Ocean1]

Not a loss of concentration because you'd dialled it back a tad perhaps?


Y'know, quite a few people think the same thing...

http://www.investigatemagazine.com/july00speed.htm

[zique]

You have hit the rationale exactly. The self reporting philosophy encourages people to investigate their own actions. And because there is little to fear from making a correct analysis they have no reason to cover up any of their actions, weaknesses or faillings. As a result of the reporting, police may make a recommendation that the driver receive further instruction in some action of their driving/riding and such instruction to place within a certain time frame. Much like a scheme you instituded yourself in Chrischurch.

In aviation there is another aspect that pilots get examined on: Human factors. Pilots are required to learn how to recognise when they are not in a fit state to fly and to ground themselves, or to recognise when they may not be at pek performance and how to get their mind back on the job etc. A failure in human factors is also a failure to get a licence. This is a big incentive to pass this part of their training. Human factors is also the part where pilots learn not to fear the self reporting scheme.

Bringing a self reporting / no fear mentality into motoring would require a massive shift in philosophy from both the motoring public and the enforcement agnecy (currently police). It couldn't be instituted overnight as too many people already in the system are inbred to mistrust rather than to trust, but over a period of 5 years or so it should be possible.


I seem to remember an investigative article a few years ago,shockingly,that most pilots do not report near misses!So somehow they are trained and drilled to do self-reporting etc,many still don't do it.I wonder why!

[merv]

Dangerous, was this a reportable injury accident you had or what?

[Drew]

Not a loss of concentration because you'd dialled it back a tad perhaps?



Y'know, quite a few people think the same thing...

http://www.investigatemagazine.com/july00speed.htm

I can site two times that I've had a brain fart, for not going fast enough. What most people think is that it's an excuse though. It isn't, I screwed up both times, inattension kills.

[dangerous]

Dangerous, was this a reportable injury accident you had or what?NO... do you need to report when ya bike falls of the side stand? Im fine, no one round for miles, private closed road bla de bla.
I fully know posting such will just get me shit here, but I did cos not all crashs happen due to non leagle bikes, speeding and what ever else RC is targeting in order to keep the toll down on 75, I however am not against what he is doing.




Was taking the piss about the grit lol. Come on D, suggesting a road crash at moderate speed on the difference between 34 and 36psi is a bit far fetched. Fuck I've ridden fast'ish rides with up to 6-8psi less than my normal and made it back home safe'n'sound.
mate... like in my post explaining the situation, Im fucked if I know what went wrong, everything was correct, me the road the weather alll mint, act off god I dont fucking know and you taking the piss dont help you know me better than that, I fucked up I got out of bed that day. As for tyre pressure... inconjunction with a 5yr old tyre well worn... you still dont think its relervant?

This from a police man we all know well round here "Fark, if YOU can arse up while riding 'normally' then what hope do I have!!

[Drew]

NO... do you need to report when ya bike falls of the side stand? Im fine, no one round for miles, private closed road bla de bla.
I fully know posting such will just get me shit here, but I did cos not all crashs happen due to non leagle bikes, speeding and what ever else RC is targeting in order to keep the toll down on 75, I however am not against what he is doing.




mate... like in my post explaining the situation, Im fucked if I know what went wrong, everything was correct, me the road the weather alll mint, act off god I dont fucking know and you taking the piss dont help you know me better than that, I fucked up I got out of bed that day.

This from a police man we all know well round here "Fark, if YOU can arse up while riding 'normally' then what hope do I have!!You're getting a bit defensive here man, do ya need a hug?

[thepom]

Passed three cop cars and I assume was rastuscat on way to the hilltop sunday and my valentine never picked up any radar........maybe its broke....

[Jantar]

I seem to remember an investigative article a few years ago,shockingly,that most pilots do not report near misses!So somehow they are trained and drilled to do self-reporting etc,many still don't do it.I wonder why!

I am not aware of any such report since the self reporting system came in. However if there is a near miss and one of the pilots is aware of it and doesn't report it then it is likely he would be investigated and prosecuted.

Near miss, in aviation, is a very subjective term. 40 gliders thermalling in a gaggle with wings crossing over each other and pilot's heads swivelling so fast it,s like they are on a turntable is a potentially dangerous situation, yet as long as the pilots follw the rules mid air collisions are very rare and this isn't a near miss. A light aircraft entering a circuit in a standard overhead rejoin may pass 500 feet above another aircraft already in the circuit. As long as the pilot doesn't descend to circuit height before being in the correct position then this also isn't a near miss. Any small aircraft being sighted by a airline pilot within 5 NM is a near miss to the airline pilot, but not to the pilot of the light aircraft.

I once reported a near miss with a skyhawk in 1988. I was instructing a student in the circuit of a back country airstrip (not a licenced airfield) at an altitude of 500' agl when a skyhawk passed underneath us. I didn't see him until he was almost directly below us, he hasn't seen us yet, so of course didn't self report. Being a wood and fabric glider we didn't show up on his radar.

[phill-k]

178! Fucked if I'd have stopped!

Can't believe you stepped out in front of him, I have a good mind to report you to the department of labour. Your safety is the most important part of your job, how do you get away with stepping in front of certain death, when you get a warning for going in public without your stab proof vest.

Ya silly bugger he was wearing a high vis safety vest, nothing could possibly happen to him

[dangerous]

You're getting a bit defensive here man, do ya need a hug?
bring it on.. hey you know how it is, thread going the KB way, if I was worried bout that I would kept my mouth shut, piss's me all the same just did the exact math and 27yrs since I last sat on my arse, maybe Im getting to bloody old... you will learn one that one day :lol:

[rastuscat]

Ya silly bugger he was wearing a high vis safety vest, nothing could possibly happen to him

I've got the video he took. I havent worked out a way to post it without identifying him. Soon as I do you'll see that I took no risks.

Anyone got a 12 year old I can borrow to show me how to edit a video?

[Drew]

Anyone got a 12 year old I can borrowand you thought you could get in trouble for saying what ya didn't hand out tickets for!

[rastuscat]

and you thought you could get in trouble for saying what ya didn't hand out tickets for!

Doh !! :doh::doh::doh::doh:

Ah well, it's fun to take the mickey out of myself.

[dangerous]

Anyone got a 12 year old I can borrow to show me how to edit a video?I have a 12yr old Glenfidick, not keen to borrow out but happy to shear if that helps?

[onearmedbandit]

, you taking the piss dont help

Well you started it. :bleh:

[Katman]

but I did cos not all crashs happen due to non leagle bikes, speeding and what ever else RC is targeting in order to keep the toll down on 75.


Yeah, sometimes it's simply due to incompetence.

[rastuscat]

Yeah, sometimes it's simply due to incompetence.

Harsh.

I put it down to a lapse in concentration. Whatever the cause, a tad more caution might have avoided it.

I'm not a fan of blaming the 2 psi difference. I find people talking about how the 2 psi like the computer geeks who marvel over the difference between an Intel Xeon E5-2690 @ 2.90GHz and a Dual Core AMD Opteron 280. Bragging rights, chest thumpers. sad really.

Now, if you're talking donuts, THATS a different story. A Cruller or a French Cruller, just can't decide. :nono:

[Drew]

Yeah, sometimes it's simply due to incompetence.Oh no you d-int!


Harsh.

I put it down to a lapse in concentration. Whatever the cause, a tad more caution might have avoided it.

I'm not a fan of blaming the 2 psi difference. I find people talking about how the 2 psi like the computer geeks who marvel over the difference between an Intel Xeon E5-2690 @ 2.90GHz and a Dual Core AMD Opteron 280. Bragging rights, chest thumpers. sad really.

Now, if you're talking donuts, THATS a different story. A Cruller or a French Cruller, just can't decide. :nono:2 PSI will be the differnce on track, between a good time and lots of sliding/wobbling. On the road, 5-10 psi has the same effect. For me anyway, but I don't really ride like everyone else so it could just be me.

To make a liar of myself though, when I raced the RF, I did a race on a front tyre at beeding up pressure, 45-50 psi, instead of where I ran the Pilot race normally, around 28-32 depending on track temp. Was all good, but I'm glad I remembered before the flag dropped or it coulda gone well differently.

[dangerous]

I'm not a fan of blaming the 2 psi difference. fuck sake, I never blamed that, all I said the only thing that I would have done different is lesser pressure that and a old tyre is all I can come up with as a maybe issue MAYBE, Im happy with everything else.

[Subike]

It was just a "shit happens" incident ,
Like dropping the front wheel into a hole covered with freshly mowed grass , on the verge of a road.
Like hitting that one marble sized stone mid way around a corner.
like stepping off the bike at a service station, and ending up on your ass because of 100sq mm oil..
Shit happens,

[dangerous]

It was just a "shit happens" incident ,
Like dropping the front wheel into a hole covered with freshly mowed grass , on the verge of a road.
Like hitting that one marble sized stone mid way around a corner.
like stepping off the bike at a service station, and ending up on your ass because of 100sq mm oil..
Shit happens,YIP, sure does... wonder if Thunder will acept that :(

[Katman]

It was just a "shit happens" incident ,
Like dropping the front wheel into a hole covered with freshly mowed grass , on the verge of a road.
Like hitting that one marble sized stone mid way around a corner.
like stepping off the bike at a service station, and ending up on your ass because of 100sq mm oil..
Shit happens,

Yeah right. Of course it's got nothing to do with the manner of riding at the time.

[Drew]

Put some bloody passion into it ya pack of soft cocks!

Steve, you aren't even trying! And Darryl, stop ignoring his half arsed critique!

By the way, there are a million reasons that might have caused the crash. But 999,999 are avoidable, and the one that wasn't is because you had a heart attack or some such.

[Subike]

Yeah right. Of course it's got nothing to do with the manner of riding at the time.

you are 100% correct there Katman, nothing to do with how you are riding at all, Just a shit happens incident

[BEAMER89]

Like dropping the front wheel into a hole covered with freshly mowed grass , on the verge of a road.

Ha funny you should say that Sub, l remember helping someone pick up there 11 hundey up just down from Little river pub a wee while ago. :first:

[Subike]

Ha funny you should say that Sub, l remember helping someone pick up there 11 hundey up just down from Little river pub a wee while ago. :first:

Yup that was me, Now I wounder how Katman will explain, in detatil, how I could have avoided that, by riding the correct way?

[Katman]

Put some bloody passion into it ya pack of soft cocks!

Steve, you aren't even trying! And Darryl, stop ignoring his half arsed critique!



Gimme a break Drew.

I'm still trying to come to terms with someone who clearly thinks so highly of their own riding - but still can't manage to stay upright.

[Katman]

Yup that was me, Now I wounder how Katman will explain, in detatil, how I could have avoided that, by riding the correct way?

You could always try opening your eyes.

[Subike]

You could always try opening your eyes.

weak.....your answer that is

[Katman]

weak.....your answer that is

No, weak.....your example that is.

I don't remember ever taking someone to task for simply dropping their bike on the grass verge because they were too weak to hold it upright.

But that's not what happened in Dangerous' case, is it?

[Drew]

I'm still trying to come to terms with someone who clearly thinks so highly of their own riding - but still can't manage to stay upright.

Settle down, 27 years upright is not something I can comprehend arsehole. Pick holes in him, not me!

[Subike]

Yeah, fair nuff Katman, put my wooden spoon away now.

I did find myself the roads although dry were greasy where D was riding.
I was not riding outside safe limits, and have reasonably new tyres on the XS11, and the front end & brakes, just serviced, (forkseals)
Yet I fount a lot of the road had a "slippery" feel to it. I had my back wheel on the edge of that loose feel twice around corners I have taken at quite a lot higher speed than i was traveling on Sunday, The conditions were very misleading, and thats well may, have caught several riders out over the weekend. As i believe D was not the only one to have a wee lie down.
Which I mention, in here as that road can often look as if it could be fast, yet can be very greasy , even on a hot day when you would expect it to be dry. Especially the section between birdlings flat and little river, where the sun gets to late in the morning.

[onearmedbandit]

Not noticed that myself, mustn't be trying hard enough.

[Drew]

Not noticed that myself, mustn't be trying hard enough.You do ride like a girl I'm told!

[merv]

Haha, but was D trying to say his bike just fell off the stand?

Why don't you fellahs just tell us exactly what happened then we might all learn from his mistake?

Or at least be able to have a better laugh over it.

[Subike]

Not noticed that myself, mustn't be trying hard enough.

you probably would not, seeing as your riding on a far Superior chassis than I am, dont really think it has anything to do with how hard anyone was trying . You probably have a higher quality tires too, and D did say that he was riding on old tires, which may not have helped him.My tires are what i can afford, so also would not be as grippy as yours.
Could that be another problem thats not being addressed enough by summer riders, tires that are several years old, with plenty of tread , pass a WOF, but are hard as retreads, no flex, no grip, I can understand that bikes that are only ridden on weekends, and sunny days could have this problem, rider being totally unaware of the danger he has unintentionally put himself in.

[Drew]

Or at least be able to have a better laugh over it.Ooohhhh I doubt that.

[Drew]

Could that be another problem thats not being addressed enough by summer riders, tires that are several years old, with plenty of tread , pass a WOF, but are hard as retreads, no flex, no grip, I can understand that bikes that are only ridden on weekends, and sunny days could have this problem, rider being totally unaware of the danger he has unintentionally put himself in.Inside the first twenty minutes maybe, but even old as fuck tyres come up to temp and stick alright eventually. Besides, that still puts the blame square on the shoulders of the rider.

Katman's a dick.

Just because I'm on a roll with getting everyone pissed off lately.

[merv]

Ooohhhh I doubt that.

Yeah I reckon, you've hardly started have you - yet?

[dangerous]

wana bet Drew... LMFAO, you lot really are a bunch a numb nuts, as if Id ever arse up and If i was to Id never post it here... look back through all this shit and you may now relise I was staging the acco as to use it as an example to bash the cop with, I dont agree with all of his philosphy on how to reduce the toll on 75 :weird:





me arse up LMFAO, keep up boys

[Drew]

Yeah I reckon, you've hardly started have you - yet?I'm merely a heckling spectator here.

[Drew]

wana bet Drew... LMFAO, you lot really are a bunch a numb nuts, as if Id ever arse up and If i was to Id never post it here... look back through all this shit and you may now relise I was staging the acco as to use it as an example to bash the cop with, I dont agree with all of his philosphy on how to reduce the toll on 75 :weird:

Sooooo, Chris has said he'll take care of the damage, and keep it on the down low?

[dangerous]

Sooooo, Chris has said he'll take care of the damage, and keep it on the down low?who the fark is Chris, ya boy friend :banana:
Ya know what is it 2012 think I been here since 04 maybe, anyways people come and people go but every time a farking coconut... threads still end up with the same ending :rolleyes:

[Kickaha]

wana bet Drew... LMFAO, you lot really are a bunch a numb nuts, as if Id ever arse up and If i was to Id never post it here...

So basically you're just an attention whore

[onearmedbandit]

Sooooo, Chris has said he'll take care of the damage, and keep it on the down low?

Not Chris, Glenn.

[onearmedbandit]

Love this thread, and I was the guy that Rastus first pulled over at around 9.30 am on my black 'Busa on Sunday last heading to L River, 106 on the radar gun and , good to go ..after a 10 min Chat ......:rolleyes:

106? Where were you?

[Drew]

who the fark is Chris, ya boy friend :banana:
I thought that was the dude's name, with all the expensive wog bikes. Him with the carbon edit' Tamborini MV.


Not Chris, Glenn.Or is this the guy?

Bloody good job I haven't run into him. I swear I remember being introduced to him as Chris. Could swear I've called him that too.

[dangerous]

So basically you're just an attention whore
yeah fark yeah and a top gun rider whore too, and dont forget fulla shit whore... just dont call me Drew's whore


I thought that was the dude's name, with all the expensive wog bikes. Him with the carbon edit' Tamborini MV.
yeah, thats chris aka MVnut... good guy, and love that Tambie... dont even think about scratching that bike.

[Drew]

yeah fark yeah and a top gun rider whore too, and dont forget fulla shit whore... just dont call me Drew's whoreYou renounciong me as your pimp, BITCH?

Fuckin slap dat 'ho' when I sees 'im.

[rastuscat]

106? Where were you?

In the 100 km area.

[HenryDorsetCase]

did anybody see that road pleece show from Straya on the telly (maybe last nigtht?) Guy on a black Speed Trip gets pulled over, 134 in a 100. He didnt have to walk home but he got a 3 month DQ, and big fine ($600?) Plus he had to undo some mods to it: It had a Yoshi pipe and some other things and the popo gave hime a defect notice.

Not cool. Plus those popo carry guns: here, all they'll do is beat you with an empty donut box. There they'll shoot you in the FACE.

[cruza]

106? Where were you?

pulled for 106km ?, wasted 10min and no ticket . Thats what I'd be thinking if it was my day off and out for a ride .

[rastuscat]

pulled for 106km ?, wasted 10min and no ticket . Thats what I'd be thinking if it was my day off and out for a ride .

So you'd rather I wrote the $30 ticket, pissed him off and spent even more of his time?

[onearmedbandit]

Was the 106 dangerous for the conditions?

[Drew]

Was the 106 dangerous for the conditions?Not relevant, unless you want the dude to get a ticket for dangerous or careless driving too?

[onearmedbandit]

Not relevant, unless you want the dude to get a ticket for dangerous or careless driving too?

Fuck you've lost me there bro.

[rastuscat]

Fuck you've lost me there bro.

Not that I'm one to agree with Drew, he's highlighted the stark difference between the offenses in question.

If I had written the ticket for 106, the charge would have been Exceeding 100 kmh. $30 and some demerits, 10 I think.

If the 106 had been dangerous, the charge would have been Dangerous Driving. Court appearance, mandatory disqualification, yada yada yada.

The charge of speeding simplicitous is a charge of simply driving at a speed in excess of an arbitrarily set limit.

Please let's not drag this into a speeding thread. I dragged 50 pages out of my last one of those. Yawn.:no:

[kiwi cowboy]

did anybody see that road pleece show from Straya on the telly (maybe last nigtht?) Guy on a black Speed Trip gets pulled over, 134 in a 100. He didnt have to walk home but he got a 3 month DQ, and big fine ($600?) Plus he had to undo some mods to it: It had a Yoshi pipe and some other things and the popo gave hime a defect notice.

Not cool. Plus those popo carry guns: here, all they'll do is beat you with an empty donut box. There they'll shoot you in the FACE.

What got me on that program was the po po riding the bikes were to look at wearing normal longs and short sleve shirts doing what speeds?.

The guy on the triumph at least was wearing full gear (not that im saying anything about ATGATT or it was ok to speed).

Do the mc police wear anything more protective tha the aussies rustacat??.

[Drew]

Fuck you've lost me there bro.


Not that I'm one to agree with Drew, he's highlighted the stark difference between the offenses in question.

If I had written the ticket for 106, the charge would have been Exceeding 100 kmh. $30 and some demerits, 10 I think.

If the 106 had been dangerous, the charge would have been Dangerous Driving. Court appearance, mandatory disqualification, yada yada yada.

The charge of speeding simplicitous is a charge of simply driving at a speed in excess of an arbitrarily set limit.

Please let's not drag this into a speeding thread. I dragged 50 pages out of my last one of those. Yawn.:no:Yeah, the snake got it.

[onearmedbandit]

Not that I'm one to agree with Drew, he's highlighted the stark difference between the offenses in question.

If I had written the ticket for 106, the charge would have been Exceeding 100 kmh. $30 and some demerits, 10 I think.

If the 106 had been dangerous, the charge would have been Dangerous Driving. Court appearance, mandatory disqualification, yada yada yada.

The charge of speeding simplicitous is a charge of simply driving at a speed in excess of an arbitrarily set limit.

Please let's not drag this into a speeding thread. I dragged 50 pages out of my last one of those. Yawn.:no:

Fair enough. I was just curious to the pull for 6km/h over the limit. Yes I know no ticket was given. That to me is irrelevant.

[rastuscat]

Fair enough. I was just curious to the pull for 6km/h over the limit. Yes I know no ticket was given. That to me is irrelevant.

Lucky he was carrying donut vouchers.........:msn-wink:

[Stylo]

Lucky he was carrying donut vouchers.........:msn-wink:

Donut vouchers ?

[Oakie]

Donut vouchers ?

For the bribery of popo.

[scumdog]

What got me on that program was the po po riding the bikes were to look at wearing normal longs and short sleve shirts doing what speeds?.

The guy on the triumph at least was wearing full gear (not that im saying anything about ATGATT or it was ok to speed).

Do the mc police wear anything more protective tha the aussies rustacat??.

Yank m.c. cops wear the same 'protective' gear in the hotter states as those Aussie ones.

civvy riders wear even less...

[Berries]

Please let's not drag this into a speeding thread. I dragged 50 pages out of my last one of those. Yawn.:no:
According to the first post it is a speeding thread. And you do know that Mataki translates in Japanese as 'irreagle verocity'?

[cruza]

Lucky he was carrying donut vouchers.........:msn-wink:

Not really answering the question ......

[nosebleed]

... Guy on a black Speed Trip gets pulled over, ...Plus he had to undo some mods to it: It had a Yoshi pipe and some other things and the popo gave hime a defect notice...

I should think so too. Yoshi pipe on a Speed Triple, for shame.

That howling noise wasn't a triple on the tap, it was anguish.

[jim.cox]

For the bribery of popo.

Donuts is NOT bribery

Its "Thanking them for their care and concern"

Tui anyone ?

[FJRider]

Fair enough. I was just curious to the pull for 6km/h over the limit. Yes I know no ticket was given. That to me is irrelevant.

I guess those discretionary powers the police have ... worked in the guys favour in this case. Perhaps (more importantly) he passed the attitude test too ...

Those that rely on a 4/10 km tolerance to keep themselves ticket free (on this particular road anyway) ... may be in for a surprise.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not that I'm one to agree with Drew, he's highlighted the stark difference between the offenses in question.

If I had written the ticket for 106, the charge would have been Exceeding 100 kmh. $30 and some demerits, 10 I think.

If the 106 had been dangerous, the charge would have been Dangerous Driving. Court appearance, mandatory disqualification, yada yada yada.

The charge of speeding simplicitous is a charge of simply driving at a speed in excess of an arbitrarily set limit.

Please let's not drag this into a speeding thread. I dragged 50 pages out of my last one of those. Yawn.:no:

a decent lawyer (I am an indecent lawyer) might be more successful in arguing in front of a Judge that 106 in a 100 is is not (in all the circumstances of the alleged offence) dangerous: cost: lawyer time, time off for court case, (for the defendant and the popo): worst case scenario: you go down for what you said: best case scenario: walk away clean. Whereas a punter will just pay the velocity tax for a speeding infringement.

[FJRider]

a decent lawyer (I am an indecent lawyer) might be more successful in arguing in front of a Judge that 106 in a 100 is is not (in all the circumstances of the alleged offence) dangerous: cost: lawyer time, time off for court case, (for the defendant and the popo): worst case scenario: you go down for what you said: best case scenario: walk away clean. Whereas a punter will just pay the velocity tax for a speeding infringement.

You can be charged for dangerous at 90 km's ... in which case, speed is not the issue in a dangerous charge.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You can be charged for dangerous at 90 km's ... in which case, speed is not the issue in a dangerous charge.

I agree: but I think (all things being equal) it would be easier to run as a deeeefence. Look at Ewen McDonald and David Bain: all I have to do is establish a "reasonable" doubt that the conduct complained of was dangerous. the original exammple was 106 in a 100 and no mention of mitigating factors that might make it dangerous: not doing it in the middle of the gay pride parade, no schoolbuses, no road hazards. Like I say, I'd run that (actually I would get the guy who works for me who does this stuff to run it for me, but you get my drift)

[FJRider]

I agree: but I think (all things being equal) it would be easier to run as a deeeefence. Look at Ewen McDonald and David Bain: all I have to do is establish a "reasonable" doubt that the conduct complained of was dangerous. the original exammple was 106 in a 100 and no mention of mitigating factors that might make it dangerous: not doing it in the middle of the gay pride parade, no schoolbuses, no road hazards. Like I say, I'd run that (actually I would get the guy who works for me who does this stuff to run it for me, but you get my drift)

If a dangerous charge was given ... you would think RC would have a valid reason for that charge. We have no idea what may have occurred that day previous to him being stopped. (a reported *555 call maybe)
But the speed limit is 100 on the open road ... so even a plain old "exceeding the posted speed limit" ticket would stand in court. Should it get that far ... would it not ... ????

[ellipsis]

...if a bloke kept tripping over his foreskin and it was never witnessed, he could argue that his wang was a monster, but others could argue his legs were too short...:rolleyes:

[brp]

Have started this as a new one so I can post some notes regarding how our weekend SH75 operations are going.

I'll update when there is something worth saying.

Today was my first real day at it, with interesting results.

I set up the laser at quite a few different sites, and got bugger all. Awesome, happy with that. Lots of folk went past my parked Popo troll bike, and saw me pointing the death ray down the road. Lots of propaganda value in that, without costing anyone anything.

Catches were a chap doing 122 on a bike. A distant past acquaintance of mine, as it happens. I said "122, what do I do with that?" He said "Write the ticket", which is what I was hoping for coz I was gonna write it anyway.

Another bloke I found overtaking. He was coming down the outside of a line of cars travelling in the opposite direction. He saw me heading toward him and had nowhere to go, so he just hung tight where he was. We passed with him on my side of the centreline. He happily accepted the ticket. Even he could see that what he had done was shiters.

Lasered my last bloke at 178. Yup, 178. Hope the weather is nice in the next few weeks, he's got a 28 day walk. Then he has a court case to sort out.

The vast majority of bikers rode at good speeds and very sensibly. Nice bikes, many of them too.

Week ones report. Just FYI.

:woohoo:

Those bloody huge veggie signs down marshlands road at one particulars vendors pad that cause customers to have to pull out towards the road to see if anything is coming are by far more of a danger than a motorbike doing 73 mph - that were pointed out to you six months ago and nudda - start with the basics that are in the constant danger basket !

[rastuscat]

Those bloody huge veggie signs down marshlands road at one particulars vendors pad that cause customers to have to pull out towards the road to see if anything is coming are by far more of a danger than a motorbike doing 73 mph - that were pointed out to you six months ago and nudda - start with the basics that are in the constant danger basket !

Yup, disagree with the signs being so big and brash.

Tell ya what. I'll resign from the job I love, and go work for the council in a job I don't want, just so I can go and sort out the signs on Marshland Road.

Yeah right.

[rastuscat]

According to the first post it is a speeding thread. And you do know that Mataki translates in Japanese as 'irreagle verocity'?

Didn't know that. In Maori it's "waiting quietly and watching".

I started this to draw attention to the issues on SH75. It appears that I have achieved that. I'll keep posting stuff as things arise.

It's also good to get feedback from those who use the road as to the nature of the issues.

[Drew]

job I loveno more complaining about fucktard drivers, from you then aye?

[brp]

No use your powers as a police officer representing the citizens of New Zealand - nothing to do with the council - a veggie mans tackie blackboards

Your smart ass reply speaks volumes .....

[george formby]

Those bloody huge veggie signs down marshlands road at one particulars vendors pad that cause customers to have to pull out towards the road to see if anything is coming are by far more of a danger than a motorbike doing 73 mph - that were pointed out to you six months ago and nudda - start with the basics that are in the constant danger basket !

Not to derail but.... We have muckle great hedges at junctions as well as bloody great signs which force you to poke your nose out into traffic, cyclits etc. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[brp]

The reason I raised the point as well as another in here is through experience, I just about collected a car coming out of the veggie place in question, its not much bigger than the width of a footpath between the gate and the road, and on the right is two stonking big blackboards causing a huge blind spot to see if there's on coming traffic.

[Drew]

No use your powers as a police officer representing the citizens of New Zealand - nothing to do with the council - a veggie mans tackie blackboards

Your smart ass reply speaks volumes .....hehehe, awesome.

Ring...the...council!!! The signs should have resource consent, and the council give those out.

A cop (particularly a filthy highway snake), can't just go knocking on doors telling people to do stuff, unless they are breaking a law.

[brp]

They could raise the issue with them to speed the process up .....

[Downunder_Team]

What got me on that program was the po po riding the bikes were to look at wearing normal longs and short sleve shirts doing what speeds?.

The guy on the triumph at least was wearing full gear (not that im saying anything about ATGATT or it was ok to speed).

Do the mc police wear anything more protective tha the aussies rustacat??.

When my better half an I toured around Australia on Bikes in 2010, most of the Police riders were in full kit as they are here. Interestingly enough when we were riding the Great Oceen road, we met a Road Traffic guy completey in black levers, helmet etc as well as the bike, (Kawasaki 1400 Concours) he told us that there are a number of "unmarked" bike police on that peice of Hiway, so you just never know who is catching you up. They had hand held lazers and bike mounted radar.

[willytheekid]

:jerry:...friggin love this thread!

Hay Rastuscat...was that you the other week sitting on Blighs Rd, grinning from ear to ear and waving back like a special kid on a school trip :laugh:...you looked VERY happy...it was nice to see a happy smiling face after the day I had at work :facepalm:

Keep smiling mate...its always good to see happy bikers :niceone:




...you may all continue to entertain me now :laugh:

[onearmedbandit]

I guess those discretionary powers the police have ... worked in the guys favour in this case. Perhaps (more importantly) he passed the attitude test too ...

Those that rely on a 4/10 km tolerance to keep themselves ticket free (on this particular road anyway) ... may be in for a surprise.

Just as well my bike tops out at 96km/h then.

[oneofsix]

Just as well my bike tops out at 96km/h then.

You might want to get that speedo fixed :laugh:

Hey Rustuscat have they equipped you with the dayglow yellow lids yet? :nya: Saw one of the Welly guys in one yesterday. :blink:

[HenryDorsetCase]

No use your powers as a police officer representing the citizens of New Zealand - nothing to do with the council - a veggie mans tackie blackboards

Your smart ass reply speaks volumes .....

idiot. YOU need to get off YOUR arse: complain to the people whose shops they are: they will tell you to get fucked. Complain to the statutory body that is in charge of this shit: YOUR local council.

Be a pain in the arse in a positive way, don't insult the guy whose job it emphatically ISN'T to do something, numbnuts.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just as well my bike tops out at 96km/h then.

in 1st......... actually not I would have thought yours would go 160+ in first? (it would be screaming....)

On a closed course, with a professional rider, in ideal conditions, a Triumph Street Triple R is geared for over 160 in second...... all the wee shift lights come on and do a wee dance though. Oh yes.

[brp]

Was good little boy 2 months ago and rung up the council to report the below as thought crikey imagine a mum with a pram or someone at night walking along - hard to tell in pics but the hole is very deep - 2 months later still in same state - no surprises (Gayhurst Rd bridge)

Rastuscat - I have informed you of a traffic hazard - you are a traffic cop - has it not occurred to you the position you have put yourself in if there is an accident there ?

Safer Communities Together - "Yeah Right"

[brp]

idiot. YOU need to get off YOUR arse: complain to the people whose shops they are: they will tell you to get fucked. Complain to the statutory body that is in charge of this shit: YOUR local council.

Be a pain in the arse in a positive way, don't insult the guy whose job it emphatically ISN'T to do something, numbnuts.

You the Dickhead assuming I have not already done so with the veggie, the above post shows why you waste your breath with the Ch-Ch City Council !

[brp]

in 1st......... actually not I would have thought yours would go 160+ in first? (it would be screaming....)

On a closed course, with a professional rider, in ideal conditions, a Triumph Street Triple R is geared for over 160 in second...... all the wee shift lights come on and do a wee dance though. Oh yes.

What a cock you truly are - don't need to be a professional rider to twist the throttle

[HenryDorsetCase]

What a cock you truly are - don't need to be a professional rider to twist the throttle

is there a point in there somewhere?

your duty as a citizen is not exhausted by posting pictures of holes on the internets. talk to YOUR council. Keep talking to them Presently, it is the leaky wheel that gets the oil.

I feel kind of bad for calling you numbnuts above. It was ad hominem and uncalled for. I can think it, I just shouldnt type it.

[Drew]

What a cock you truly are - don't need to be a professional rider to twist the throttle


Numbnuts... I can think it, I just shouldnt type it.It's ok, lots of people think alike it would seem.

[brp]

I feel kind of bad for calling you numbnuts above. It was ad hominem and uncalled for. I can think it, I just shouldnt type it.

"Not your fault you are a cop-licker"



It's ok, lots of people think alike it would seem.

Glad you said seem - if some retard is going to have a pull under his blanket why trying to insult me he's pulling himself in more ways than one ! Yah might want to watch your step offline henry - yah wouldn't get a chance for a greasy apologiee ! Those that draw the first sword die by it !

[onearmedbandit]

"Not your fault you are a cop-licker"




Glad you said seem - if some retard is going to have a pull under his blanket why trying to insult me he's pulling himself in more ways than one ! Yah might want to watch your step offline henry - yah wouldn't get a chance for a greasy apologiee ! Those that draw the first sword die by it !

WTF??????? Really? Levelling threats offline?

[Drew]

Glad you said seem - if some retard is going to have a pull under his blanket why trying to insult me he's pulling himself in more ways than one ! Yah might want to watch your step offline henry - yah wouldn't get a chance for a greasy apologiee ! Those that draw the first sword die by it !

I said people seem to think alike, not HDC. I get kinda lost since your sentence doesn't make sense thereafter. Or the one after that...I don't own a sword.

I will watch my step too though, got a bad ankle an knee on the right hand side, wouldn't wanna agrevate those.

[Drew]

WTF??????? Really? Levelling threats offline?Oi, leave him alone. He's clearly a little 'touched', and I wanna see how far he's gonna go.

[onearmedbandit]

Oi, leave him alone. He's clearly a little 'touched', and I wanna see how far he's gonna go.

I think he's referring to HDC, not yourself.

[Drew]

I think he's referring to HDC, not yourself.Yeah, but he quoted him, instead of me. So I figure I deserve some of the hatred.

[brp]

WTF??????? Really? Levelling threats offline?

In a general sense what happens offline - ya carnt go round calling people idiots - numbnuts offline and get away with it so why
try doing it hiding behind ya keyboard ? Reason is cause you are a weak gutted bully and the only way to fix a bullie is bullie them back !


I'm not meaning you drew

[brp]

negative reap for sticking up for yourself - cheers dude :(

[Drew]

In a general sense what happens offline - ya carnt go round calling people idiots - numbnuts offline and get away with it so why
try doing it hiding behind ya keyboard ? Reason is cause you are a weak gutted bully and the only way to fix a bullie is bullie them back !


I'm not meaning you drewYou're not bullying him, you're making threats on the internet. It's as pointless as the female orgasm.

[rastuscat]

Rastuscat - I have informed you of a traffic hazard - you are a traffic cop - has it not occurred to you the position you have put yourself in if there is an accident there

Sadly there are so many hazards out there at the moment, it's simply not possible for me to go and take a look at all of them, and deal with every one. I'm not your personal Popo, sorry.

The one thing that could change overnight and for nil cost, nada, (not months from now and at massive cost $$$$$$$$) is for people to allow for the hazards that exist when they are operating vehicles.

My suggestions for a happy life. If theres a sign blocking your view, don't ride like there is no sign blocking your view. If there is a broken road, don't ride like the road is a perfect carpet. If the road is being driven by a million homocidal maniacs, ride like the road is being driven by a million homocidal maniacs.

Simple answers, always the best.

BTW, your duel with OAB and Drew is tedious. Pick on someone elses thread.

[Drew]

Sadly there are so many hazards out there at the moment, it's simply not possible for me to go and take a look at all of them, and deal with every one. I'm not your personal Popo, sorry.

The one thing that could change overnight and for nil cost, nada, (not months from now and at massive cost $$$$$$$$) is for people to allow for the hazards that exist when they are operating vehicles.

My suggestions for a happy life. If theres a sign blocking your view, don't ride like there is no sign blocking your view. If there is a broken road, don't ride like the road is a perfect carpet. If the road is being driven by a million homocidal maniacs, ride like the road is being driven by a million homocidal maniacs.

Simple answers, always the best.

BTW, your duel with OAB and Drew is tedious. Pick on someone elses thread.Wash your mouth out, you post on here so you're our best bud.

Also, if people rode or drove as you suggest, what could they whinge about.

Lastly, I can't get him to duel with me, I don't appear to be worthy.:not:

[oneofsix]

Rastuscat - I have informed you of a traffic hazard


See right there is your problem, you have posted a post in a public forum and addressed yourself to a poster called Rastuscat, you have not informed the police.

There has been a dead possum in the middle of the lane the last couple of mornings on my ride in, does that mean I can now expect some poppo to pick it up for me - yeah right, and if they did there would probably be another one around the next bend the next day. Ride to the conditions and what the reasonably might be, it is not a race track.

Why don't you *555 the signs if they are such a concern.

[Berg]

See right there is your problem, you have posted a post in a public forum and addressed yourself to a poster called Rastuscat, you have not informed the police.

There has been a dead possum in the middle of the lane the last couple of mornings on my ride in, does that mean I can now expect some poppo to pick it up for me - yeah right, and if they did there would probably be another one around the next bend the next day. Ride to the conditions and what the reasonably might be, it is not a race track.

Why don't you *555 the signs if they are such a concern.
:Oi:Leave my roadkill alone:nono: I left it there for a reason but I can't remember what it was:confused:
I did pick up the alternator, the chain, the fuel filler cap and the rachet end of a strop. Any more crap on the Raumati streight and I'm gunna need a truck

[Jantar]

I would also like to complain of a traffic hazard that no-one is doing anything about. The first km from our house is full of potholes and corregations. The gravel is so worn that it is almost just a mud track. Bugger all grip and a very narrow carriage way.

Now if I understand BRP correctly, it is Rastuscat's responsibility to fix it now that he knows about it. Hey I like this system, and RC when you finish fixing up the traffic hazzards and park up the tractor I'll even get in a box of donuts. :whistle:

[Berries]

Who the fuck eats veggies anyway?

[Berg]

I would also like to complain of a traffic hazard that no-one is doing anything about. The first km from our house is full of potholes and corregations. The gravel is so worn that it is almost just a mud track. Bugger all grip and a very narrow carriage way.

Now if I understand BRP correctly, it is Rastuscat's responsibility to fix it now that he knows about it. Hey I like this system, and RC when you finish fixing up the traffic hazzards and park up the tractor I'll even get in a box of donuts. :whistle:
And I bet that bits your driveway:laugh:

[FJRider]

I would also like to complain of a traffic hazard that no-one is doing anything about. The first km from our house is full of potholes and corregations. The gravel is so worn that it is almost just a mud track. Bugger all grip and a very narrow carriage way.



That was why you bought an adventure bike wasn't it ... ??? It must be an adventure on the 1250 ... :laugh:

I wouldn't say potholes and corrugations ... more like caves and gullys ..... :devil2:

[kiwi cowboy]

Yank m.c. cops wear the same 'protective' gear in the hotter states as those Aussie ones.

civvy riders wear even less...

Yer probably get pretty hot sitting in a donut shop on a hot day in full gear :devil2::msn-wink:

[kiwi cowboy]

caves and gullys ..... :devil2:

:cool:mmmmmmm caves and gullys ooooh opps wrong thread sorry as you were:devil2::Offtopic:

[ellipsis]

...if everyone just rode a Sportster, like me, they wouldn't really know if it was a possum, pothole or perfect pavement that they were traveling over...:weird:

[FJRider]

...if everyone just rode a Sportster, like me, they wouldn't really know if it was a possum, pothole or perfect pavement that they were traveling over...:weird:

The possum would know .... <_<

[FJRider]

caves and gullys ..... :devil2:

:cool:mmmmmmm caves and gullys ooooh opps wrong thread sorry as you were:devil2::Offtopic:

There ... fixed it for you ... :rolleyes:

[Kickaha]

Now if I understand BRP correctly, it is Rastuscat's responsibility to fix it now that he knows about it. Hey I like this system, and RC when you finish fixing up the traffic hazzards and park up the tractor

I got a fence that needs fixing once he's finished your stuff

[HenryDorsetCase]

"Not your fault you are a cop-licker"




Glad you said seem - if some retard is going to have a pull under his blanket why trying to insult me he's pulling himself in more ways than one ! Yah might want to watch your step offline henry - yah wouldn't get a chance for a greasy apologiee ! Those that draw the first sword die by it !

the fuck? its the internets dude, get used to it.

[dangerous]

HEY... remember me? the ace rider thats so pro that I aint binned in 27yrs, but did then didnt... wasnt this thread about me :bleh: or was it about Drew and how he likes it side ways... ohh no that was Kickaha's fence, not the fence taking it sideways, Drew taking the fence sideways... or was it that old southern know it all cunt FJ, fucked if I know any more.. actually I never knew did I, dont answer that, well the pig can, but then again pigs cant talk can they? and since when did they eat donuts? theres a pig in Clutha that hates donuts but loves whisky... WHISKY yeah now we are talking, lets change this thread into to a whisky thread... beats wanking on bout speeding and or fucked Tuono's ...


PS: ... yeah you, nuff out a you ...

[FJRider]

HEY... remember me? the ace rider thats so pro that I aint binned in 27yrs, but did then didnt... wasnt this thread about me :bleh: or was it about ....


Maybe it's not all about you. If you featured in it ... lucky you ...

[dangerous]

Maybe it's not all about you. If you featured in it ... lucky you ...Who the hell pulled your chain... :msn-wink:

[imdying]

To be fair, not only is the Gayhurst road bridge fucked, but the entire neighbourhood with it. If I was the council, I wouldn't waste money and/or resources fixing it when there's a list as long as their arm in places that aren't condemned.

RastusCat... if I lick you, what would you taste like? :confused: Powdered sugar and candy sprinkles? :scratch:

[Oakie]

RastusCat... if I lick you, what would you taste like? :confused: Powdered sugar and candy sprinkles? :scratch:

Stale donuts of course! (or were you refering to the donut topping anyway).

[Kickaha]

I was going to come on here and slag the revenue raising donut munchers off after seeing them on the Northern motorway for the 2nd weekend in a row with the laser gun out

Two lanes in each direction, good visibilty, light traffic flow,must be just about the money as no cunt ever crashes there

Well expect for some dick I notice on the way home with his Station wagon backed through the fence outside Hellers with Ambo, Fire and Donuts munchers in attendance:facepalm:

[Oakie]

Two lanes in each direction, good visibilty, light traffic flow,must be just about the money as no cunt ever crashes there

Well expect for some dick I notice on the way home with his Station wagon backed through the fence outside Hellers with Ambo, Fire and Donuts munchers in attendance:facepalm:

A guy was killed just down from there three or four years ago too after losing control.

[Muppet]

I was going to come on here and slag the revenue raising donut munchers off after seeing them on the Northern motorway for the 2nd weekend in a row with the laser gun out

Two lanes in each direction, good visibilty, light traffic flow,must be just about the money as no cunt ever crashes there

Well expect for some dick I notice on the way home with his Station wagon backed through the fence outside Hellers with Ambo, Fire and Donuts munchers in attendance:facepalm:

Don't you need an "eating my words" or "foot in my mouth" emoticon here? I attended a crash where a boy racer, sorry 'car enthusiast',crashed into the back of a huge truck then spun out of control into the hedgerow not far from Waimak' Bridge. He was speeding and driving like an idiot.

[AllanB]

Shit-the-bed. This thread went to crap!

Still on SH75? Thinking of heading that way tomorrow ........ I plan to visit the site of the untimely incident relating to the late model Aprilia - I may need to place a bunch of flowers there in it's memory.......

[rastuscat]

Expect to see 56YQC and it's Popo pilot out there at some stage. With his Death Ray.

In fact, expect to see one every weekend until maybe next March.

Usual rule applies. No speeding, no speeding tickets. Stay on your own side of the road, no fail to keep left tickets. Easy.

Wave. Any less than 5 fingers will be regarded as impolite. :Police:

[Gremlin]

Usual rule applies. No speeding, no speeding tickets. Stay on your own side of the road, no fail to keep left tickets. Easy.
Sounds complicated... can you make it easier to understand? :blink:

[jim.cox]

Wave. Any less than 5 fingers will be regarded as impolite. :Police:

There you go again

Demanding respect

When are you going to learn?

Its earned, Mate. You can't demand it of the population.

And quite frankly you and your blue mates have got a bit of earning to do

You get on - you do your job- and you do it well I'm sure

Just dont expect us to like you....

[rastuscat]

Sounds complicated... can you make it easier to understand? :blink:

Allow me to rephrase. Don't break the rules and you'll avoid the penalties for breaking the rules.

:facepalm:

[rastuscat]

Hey, let's face it, anyone can do anything they want on the roads.

Most times, no issues. Sometimes, there might just be consequences.

Fines, demerits. Maybe even an off.

Just don't bitch when the consequences happen, as playing by the rules is an option open to everyone.

And in the real world, even if you play by the arbitrarily set speed rules, there is no such thing as a guarantee.

[Subike]

Dont shoot the messenger, he is only delivering and enforcing the message
If you dont want to listen to the message, thats your choice,
It not his choice if you get caught, its yours for deciding not to listen.
And agree, even obeying all the rules dose not garrentee your safety, someones else's choice might be the cause of your dilemma

[Berries]

And agree, even obeying all the rules dose not garrentee your safety, someones else's choice might be the cause of your delemia
Isn't that what Princess Di had?

[ellipsis]

...get your fucking jumbo jet out of my fucking garden...

[onearmedbandit]

Just don't bitch when the consequences happen, as playing by the rules is an option open to everyone.
.

100% agreed.

[orangeback]

100% agreed.
that's why you go over mid week , :innocent::yes:
sure you where doing 100 km when you passed me ,

[onearmedbandit]

that's why you go over mid week , :innocent::yes:
sure you where doing 100 km when you passed me ,

Thank you OB. Finally someone who understands why I ride during the week; so my 100km/h journeys don't make me feel slow compared to all the weekend speedsters.

[dangerous]

I plan to visit the site of the untimely incident relating to the late model Aprilia - I may need to place a bunch of flowers there in it's memory.......yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... thanks for that :facepalm:

[cruza]

that's why you go over mid week , :innocent::yes:
sure you where doing 100 km when you passed me ,

mid week best time , road over populated at weekends

[GrayWolf]

fuck sake, I never blamed that, all I said the only thing that I would have done different is lesser pressure that and a old tyre is all I can come up with as a maybe issue MAYBE, Im happy with everything else.

I am not going to bag ya.. bloody hell I just had that 25kph 'off' a few weeks back and almost the same thing, just that instant of inattention.... ya feel SUCH a prat, when you're sitting in the middle of the road, eh? :bye:

[Drew]

There you go again

Demanding respect

When are you going to learn?

Its earned, Mate. You can't demand it of the population.

And quite frankly you and your blue mates have got a bit of earning to do

You get on - you do your job- and you do it well I'm sure

Just dont expect us to like you....
Respect is a given, not fucking earned! Everyone deserves respect, untill such time as they do something, to have their character questioned.

If I meet someone, they have my respect and I show it by being polite and amicable. If they piss me off or are a member of kiwibiker, I stop doing that.

[FJRider]

Respect is a given, not fucking earned! Everyone deserves respect, untill such time as they do something, to have their character questioned.

For what it's worth ... I agree.


If they piss me off or are a member of kiwibiker, I stop doing that.

At least you have standards ... I've always wondered on that ... :shifty:

[Kickaha]

At least you have standards ...

Standards? Drew? :nya:

[FJRider]

Standards? Drew? :nya:

I did not say high standards ... :confused:

[Drew]

For what it's worth ... I agree.I don't think this is the first time. You feeling ok man?

[FJRider]

I don't think this is the first time. You feeling ok man?

I was just having a moment ... as you say ... not my first :blink:

Will see the Doc first thing ... :cry:

[Muppet]

There you go again

Demanding respect

When are you going to learn?

Its earned, Mate. You can't demand it of the population.

And quite frankly you and your blue mates have got a bit of earning to do

You get on - you do your job- and you do it well I'm sure

Just dont expect us to like you....

Respct Rastuscat's:Police:authoritah!:laugh:

[Kickaha]

Respct Rastuscat's:Police:authoritah!:laugh:

Was it him I saw chasing schoolgirls round the yard at Papanui today?

[Drew]

Was it him I saw chasing schoolgirls round the yard at Papanui today?AND he gets to do it legally! RESPET!

[kiwi cowboy]

Expect to see 56YQC and it's Popo pilot out there at some stage. With his Death Ray.

In fact, expect to see one every weekend until maybe next March.

Usual rule applies. No speeding, no speeding tickets. Stay on your own side of the road, no fail to keep left tickets. Easy.

Wave. Any less than 5 fingers will be regarded as impolite. :Police:

HI:finger::finger:::finger::finger::finger:::finge r: gotta be polite A?.

[FJRider]

HI:finger::finger:::finger::finger::finger:::finge r: gotta be polite A?.

That's OK RC ... it's his way of saying he's putting the jug on ... (it's a local rarely used dialect) :facepalm:

[kiwi cowboy]

That's OK RC ... it's his way of saying he's putting the jug on ... (it's a local rarely used dialect) :facepalm:

You adder stand our dialec ha you musk av a bit oh illbilly in ya too:laugh:

[FJRider]

You adder stand our dialec ha you musk av a bit oh illbilly in ya too:laugh:

.........................................

:finger::finger::finger::finger::finger:





:laugh:

[rossirep]

Thank you OB. Finally someone who understands why I ride during the week; so my 100km/h journeys don't make me feel slow compared to all the weekend speedsters.

what ever fella, iv seen you working weekends, that why you do the weekday flying mission to LR.,LOL

and anyway i was out that way yesterday for a nice slow ride and didnt see not a single piggy anywhere, none parked up in lil river lots of bikes, but no cops,
so got me thinking this whole Akaroa gp blitz thing could be all hyped up to get people talking,... cause come on primo day like yesterday and the start of daylight savings you'd think they would be out doing their job.. but no ..

[onearmedbandit]

what ever fella, iv seen you working weekends, that why you do the weekday flying mission to LR.,LOL

and anyway i was out that way yesterday for a nice slow ride and didnt see not a single piggy anywhere, none parked up in lil river lots of bikes, but no cops,
so got me thinking this whole Akaroa gp blitz thing could be all hyped up to get people talking,... cause come on primo day like yesterday and the start of daylight savings you'd think they would be out doing their job.. but no ..

I was out there yesterday as well, albeit in the car with the family, and saw no police either. Mind you, doesn't mean there weren't any out there lol. And yup rr, working weekends does have one advantage.

[Drew]

working weekends does have one advantage.Yip, means it's not usually you cooped up with the kids in the car for Sunday drives.

[onearmedbandit]

Yip, means it's not usually you cooped up with the kids in the car for Sunday drives.

Yeah, like I was yesterday. Once a month I have to take a Sunday off.

[rastuscat]

I was out there yesterday as well, albeit in the car with the family, and saw no police either. Mind you, doesn't mean there weren't any out there lol. And yup rr, working weekends does have one advantage.

The weekend Popo spent several hours on 75 on Saturday, fecking near got blown off the road. Several interactions, nil tickets.

He called in crook on Sunday. So no Popo. It was a Popo free zone, my team anyway. Can't speak for the Highway guys.

This weekend there's another Popo who usually rides 75 on his own bike, so he knows the tricks out there.

A propaganda war........hey, it started a discussion.......but we love getting paid to ride nice bikes out there so expect to keep seeing us.

Ka kite.

[onearmedbandit]

This weekend there's another Popo who usually rides 75 on his own bike, so he knows the tricks out there.


Ka kite.

I've heard stories about off duty cops on their own bikes out there. All baseless rumours I'm sure though.

[rastuscat]

I've found someone who may be able to disguise Mr 178 from my first post. I have the video, if we can blank the dudes face out, I'll post it up later this week.:Police:

[Downunder_Team]

Did my usual Sunday morning ride over to Akaroa this Sunday, must have been the worst trip in about 4 years, cars not moving over on the passing lanes causing others to try to pass up the inside, and I mean cars here not bikes, seemed to be Akaroa's national drive stupid day.
I do not think I will be going over there for Sunday breakfast in the near future.
Team Down Under


what ever fella, iv seen you working weekends, that why you do the weekday flying mission to LR.,LOL

and anyway i was out that way yesterday for a nice slow ride and didnt see not a single piggy anywhere, none parked up in lil river lots of bikes, but no cops,
so got me thinking this whole Akaroa gp blitz thing could be all hyped up to get people talking,... cause come on primo day like yesterday and the start of daylight savings you'd think they would be out doing their job.. but no ..


The weekend Popo spent several hours on 75 on Saturday, fecking near got blown off the road. Several interactions, nil tickets.

He called in crook on Sunday. So no Popo. It was a Popo free zone, my team anyway. Can't speak for the Highway guys.

This weekend there's another Popo who usually rides 75 on his own bike, so he knows the tricks out there.

A propaganda war........hey, it started a discussion.......but we love getting paid to ride nice bikes out there so expect to keep seeing us.

Ka kite.

[HondaLad]

How have the stats been the last couple of weekends RC? Has there been any discernible changes to the behaviour of those using SH75 following the tickets/warnings/discussions that have taken place?

[Drew]

The warning approach and my take on it...

I'm not great at keeping my vehicles legit. Usually prefer to take the risk as it works out cheaper...Until just the other day. I got warnings for two instances in different diesel cars.

Long story short, I don't have to pay the equivalent of a brand new gixxer six, and my cars are all legal.

Bike...Well, I'm working on it.

[rossirep]

well yet again its been a nice kick arse sunday for a ride, went to akaroa and back thru the bays and didnt see a single copper..
not that im complaining or anything but the last few times iv headed over that way i thought id see at least one.. but im happy to say not.!!

so fingers crossed they find better things to do than hang out in the good riding spots tryin to wreck bikers days by dishing out tickets.

[Katman]

Don't listen, it's a trap.

Rossirep is one of them.

[FJRider]

Don't listen, it's a trap.

Rossirep is one of them.

Nup ... long week ends will be ... highway one and/or checkpoint duty ...

I doubt if any cop will have the weekend off.

[duckonin]

Cops do not work statutory days .. 8am to 5pm most other five days of the week. Then that is debatable.:yes:

[Subike]

Cops do not work statutory days .. 8am to 5pm most other five days of the week. Then that is debatable.:yes:


your right! , its only the cunts in uniforms that work after hours, All the good cops are sitting at home downing a few beers and turning the steak on the barby

[rossirep]

All the good cops are sitting at home downing a few beers and turning the steak on the barby


sorry Subike there are no good cops..
most of them are fuckwits and the so called "good" ones are just a lil less fuckwitty than the rest.

even thou you think your all bum chummy on the interweb chattin to them, doesnt make them your friends.!!

[Subike]

sorry Subike there are no good cops..
most of them are fuckwits and the so called "good" ones are just a lil less fuckwitty than the rest.

even thou you think your all bum chummy on the interweb chattin to them, doesnt make them your friends.!!

lol, you dont know the real me very well do you

[rossirep]

lol, you dont know the real me very well do you


there are only a handful of people on this site i do really know, and nope your not one of them,
so for all i know you could be a pigger, or a hard core crim, but iv seen your old man santa beard so im thinking ya not a pigger.. lol,
so..... where are all ya buds at.??

[FJRider]

Cops do not work statutory days .. 8am to 5pm most other five days of the week. Then that is debatable.:yes:

Who's driving all the police cars in the evenings and weekends then ... ???

[FJRider]

most of them are fuckwits and the so called "good" ones are just a lil less fuckwitty than the rest.

If your only contact with them is during a roadside stop ... you would be likely to have a low opinion of them. Your problem ... and really easy to sort. Behave yourself. Then most of them would be more friendly towards you.


even thou you think your all bum chummy on the interweb chattin to them, doesnt make them your friends.!!

Looking at your profile page ... Two friends ... and you had to come online to get them.

[rossirep]

If your only contact with them is during a roadside stop ... you would be likely to have a low opinion of them. Your problem ... and really easy to sort. Behave yourself. Then most of them would be more friendly towards you.



Looking at your profile page ... Two friends ... and you had to come online to get them.




blah blah blah.. yeah tell me something i dont know, but cops are cops and if your not one then they aint ya friend.

and just cause i have 2 friends on this site doesnt mean thats the only friends i have lol,.. more kiwibiker friends on your profile doesnt make you a better rider or cooler person.

but what does make you a better rider and cooler person is the amount of shit you give people on here. ;-)

[rastuscat]

Thanks for missing me. Feeling the lerve.:niceone:

I'm on leave just now, renovating our new house. New bike arriving for me on Tuesday, life is good.

Not sure if the guys have been out there while I'm away. Dont worry, its not forgotten.

Remember that weekend when I caught the lad who did 178 on the R6? I'll be posting the video, now that I have a version of it with his ID hidden.

Watch this space.

[FJRider]

blah blah blah.. yeah tell me something i dont know, but cops are cops and if your not one then they aint ya friend.



If you judge people by their occupations ... you must get out more ... :shifty:

[rossirep]

If you judge people by their occupations ... you must get out more ... :shifty:


as a person i bet they are fine, but once they put on there uniform it all changes .
police are just another form of a gang at the end of the day.. but hey each to their own and when ya get busted doing something stupid on ya bike, see how far ya name dropping gets ya when your all like. "oh im ..... from kiwibiker, we have chatted online heaps and your on my friends list".. lol,

[FJRider]

as a person i bet they are fine, but once they put on there uniform it all changes .
police are just another form of a gang at the end of the day.. but hey each to their own and when ya get busted doing something stupid on ya bike, see how far ya name dropping gets ya when your all like. "oh im ..... from kiwibiker, we have chatted online heaps and your on my friends list".. lol,

Perhaps ... when you get past puberty, and enter the real world ... you may find a lot of things different from what you have previously believed.

[dangerous]

sorry Subike there are no good cops..
most of them are fuckwits and the so called "good" ones are just a lil less fuckwitty than the rest.

even thou you think your all bum chummy on the interweb chattin to them, doesnt make them your friends.!!Its a pitty you have such an out look on life, unfortunatly it wont take you far in this world, maybe when one of these fuckwits pulls a big son of a bitch off your girlfriend catchs the cunt that trashed your house and stoll ya bike you will change your opion of the majority of them, as far as bum chummy on the net well I for one have even been on patrol with KB cops and can tell you they are just as friendly at work as the net.

[rastuscat]

as a person i bet they are fine, but once they put on there uniform it all changes .
police are just another form of a gang at the end of the day.. but hey each to their own and when ya get busted doing something stupid on ya bike, see how far ya name dropping gets ya when your all like. "oh im ..... from kiwibiker, we have chatted online heaps and your on my friends list".. lol,

Need a hug?

When I'm on SH75 and I fund someone doing 122, what am I supposed to do?

When I'm there and I find someone overtaking in a fucktard place, should I just give him/her a friendly wave etc?

Ah well, some folk think we are there to be popular. Not so.

[rossirep]

Its a pitty you have such an out look on life, unfortunatly it wont take you far in this world, maybe when one of these fuckwits pulls a big son of a bitch off your girlfriend catchs the cunt that trashed your house and stoll ya bike you will change your opion of the majority of them, as far as bum chummy on the net well I for one have even been on patrol with KB cops and can tell you they are just as friendly at work as the net.

sure i know there is 2 worlds ya can live in, 1 with cops an 1 without. an id take the one with cops anyday cause ya just need to watch the news to see what happens when they aint there.

i just find it funny reading threw the comments on here how all you guys are acting like mr bike cop is ya best friend on the net,
he aint ya mate. sure chances are he is a nice guy, but.... when he is on that bike he is out to fuck over anyone he can and then he comes on this website to brag about it, and you guys suck it all up. just seems alil weird if you ask me, and now hes talking about posting a video of some guy he busted doing 178.?? yeah cause thats a normal thing for a cop to do aye

[Scuba_Steve]

Need a hug?

When I'm on SH75 and I fund someone doing 122, what am I supposed to do?

When I'm there and I find someone overtaking in a fucktard place, should I just give him/her a friendly wave etc?

Ah well, some folk think we are there to be popular. Not so.

you fund people doing 122??? Think I need to ride SH75 & hit that magical number, I could use the cash... How much you pay???

[rastuscat]

you fund people doing 122??

No. I don't fund other riders.

[FJRider]

you fund people doing 122??? Think I need to ride SH75 & hit that magical number, I could use the cash... How much you pay???

He doesn't need to fund them ... the one's over 104 km's are on a "pay as you go" plan. Bonus payments made after 140 km's ..

Judging by the number of complaints on the subject ... the plan is well subscribed ...


The minister of finance thanks all for their kind contributions ..

[scumdog]

sure i know there is 2 worlds ya can live in, 1 with cops an 1 without. an id take the one with cops anyday cause ya just need to watch the news to see what happens when they aint there.

i just find it funny reading threw the comments on here how all you guys are acting like mr bike cop is ya best friend on the net,
he aint ya mate. sure chances are he is a nice guy, but.... when he is on that bike he is out to fuck over anyone he can and then he comes on this website to brag about it, and you guys suck it all up. just seems alil weird if you ask me, and now hes talking about posting a video of some guy he busted doing 178.?? yeah cause thats a normal thing for a cop to do aye

This cop sez you're making me yawn, ya need a hanky??....:rolleyes:

[Akzle]

Its a pitty you have such an out look on life, unfortunatly it wont take you far in this world, maybe when one of these fuckwits pulls a big son of a bitch off your girlfriend catchs the cunt that trashed your house and stoll ya bike you will change your opion of the majority of them, ...
nah. i've had plenty to do with em, and they aint done shit that's benefitted me. several break ins/burglaries (with witnesses), stolen cars (never recovered), lost n found (not found), stolen bike (not found)
that said, i've dealt with cops who aren't complete arseholes, but if they weren't in uniform with guns and shit, i wouldn't have given them the time of day.
so no. cops are not good. not there for your benefit. the majority ARE dicks, the minority (<10 %)might actually do some good now and then.


...

When I'm on SH75 and I fund someone doing 122, what am I supposed to do?

When I'm there and I find someone overtaking in a fucktard place, should I just give him/her a friendly wave etc?

Ah well, some folk think we are there to be popular.
nonono. you're not there to be popular, you're there to enforce policy. unfortunately the "discretion" you apply is often to the wrong shit. someone doing 122 isn't a hazard in itself. that's the cop in you. someone overtaking like a fucktard - this really comes down to your vs their opinion of fucktard, innit. pretty subjective. they might think you write tickets like a fucktard, eh? where is their recourse?
(i do accept that there is some shit which is outright dumb and you are right in trying to minimise this)

your existence in uniform has not reduced crime, has not reduced road fatalities, has not improved the quality of anyone's life. has not reduced drink driving incidence, has not reduced serious harm, has not reduced family violence, has not reduced organised crime (in fact, your job IS organised crime)/ unsanctioned gang activity, has not reduced youth suicide, has not reduced teen pregnancy (illegal), has not reduced vandalism, has not reduced alcohol abuse..
so, just how is it you claim to make my community safer, together (implying you somehow work WITH me, rather than being a public servant working FOR me?, or rather, as it is, forcibly claiming authority to tell me how to work FOR you)

...hrm?


sure i know there is 2 worlds ya can live in, 1 with cops an 1 without. an id take the one with cops anyday cause ya just need to watch the news to see what happens when they aint there.
:killingme :lol: :rofl:

you have SEEN the news eh..?? and we're living in the world WITH cops....

[Kickaha]

sorry Subike there are no good cops..
There's actually quite a lot of good cops

there are only a handful of people on this site i do really know
Probably a handful is all the people that want to know you

. when he is on that bike he is out to fuck over anyone he can
It's actually fairly easy to avoid being "fucked over" some people are just a lot slower learners about it than others


your existence in uniform has not reduced crime, has not reduced road fatalities, has not improved the quality of anyone's life. has not reduced drink driving incidence, has not reduced serious harm, has not reduced family violence, has not reduced organised crime (in fact, your job IS organised crime)/ unsanctioned gang activity, has not reduced youth suicide, has not reduced teen pregnancy (illegal), has not reduced vandalism, has not reduced alcohol abuse..
Can you please post up some links that provide proof for everything you've just quoted

[scumdog]

your existence in uniform has not reduced crime, has not reduced road fatalities, has not improved the quality of anyone's life. has not reduced drink driving incidence, has not reduced serious harm, has not reduced family violence, has not reduced organised crime (in fact, your job IS organised crime)/ unsanctioned gang activity, has not reduced youth suicide, has not reduced teen pregnancy (illegal), has not reduced vandalism, has not reduced alcohol abuse..
so, just how is it you claim to make my community safer, together (implying you somehow work WITH me, rather than being a public servant working FOR me?, or rather, as it is, forcibly claiming authority to tell me how to work FOR you)


[/COLOR]

Mwahaha....:bleh::rofl::killingme

And your figures to prove that the level of crimes of all the types you mentioned have not got worse because there are no police there?? (Like in a similar society to NZ but where there are NO cops)

[rastuscat]

Nice one Akzle.

Even I would ride faster everywhere if I knew for sure that there were no Popos about. The perception of apprehension is a basic fundamental tenet of deterrent theory.

Course, I should just shut up. You know everything. Just like my 14 year old son.

[Magnum Noel]

nonono. you're not there to be popular, you're there to enforce policy. unfortunately the "discretion" you apply is often to the wrong shit. someone doing 122 isn't a hazard in itself. that's the cop in you. someone overtaking like a fucktard - this really comes down to your vs their opinion of fucktard, innit. pretty subjective. they might think you write tickets like a fucktard, eh? where is their recourse?
(i do accept that there is some shit which is outright dumb and you are right in trying to minimise this)

your existence in uniform has not reduced crime, has not reduced road fatalities, has not improved the quality of anyone's life. has not reduced drink driving incidence, has not reduced serious harm, has not reduced family violence, has not reduced organised crime (in fact, your job IS organised crime)/ unsanctioned gang activity, has not reduced youth suicide, has not reduced teen pregnancy (illegal), has not reduced vandalism, has not reduced alcohol abuse..
so, just how is it you claim to make my community safer, together (implying you somehow work WITH me, rather than being a public servant working FOR me?, or rather, as it is, forcibly claiming authority to tell me how to work FOR you)
What load of tripe! How in hell can you ever substantiate wild claims such as these. What a dreamer you have become in your own littlle world whilst trying to give some sort credence to your beliefs.

[Akzle]

There's actually quite a lot of good cops...
statistically it's possible, i maintain that the MAJORITY are not "nice cops" (are, infact, dicks)

Can you please post up some links that provide proof for everything you've just quoted



And your figures to prove that the level of crimes of all the types you mentioned have not got worse because there are no police there?? (Like in a similar society to NZ but where there are NO cops)
just it, innit. there is no control to compare it to. what i CAN compare it to, is say, 1000 years ago, when there was some kind of over-bearing-dictate-and-enforce kind of arrangement, crime? check. now, today. crime? check.
so. must be working eh?
or you can take a shorter view on it. say the last 100 years, or even the last week.
what's fucken changed? people still saying "i want cops because i FEAR CRIME" chicken and egg shit or no? cops exist, have for (nearly) time immemorial, crime exists, has since the time of eve, innit?
people know that cops exist, people know that legislation exists that says they shouldn't drink-drive, hit kids, "speed" etc, but all this shit carrys on.
so. wtf the point in the cops?
can you provide links that show cops have improved anything, ever?


Nice one Akzle.

Even I would ride faster everywhere if I knew for sure that there were no Popos about. The perception of apprehension is a basic fundamental tenet of deterrent theory.

Course, I should just shut up. You know everything. Just like my 14 year old son.

so you conceed that speed is not dangerous, that you feel safe and competent to travel faster. yet you monetarily and forcibly penalise people who travel faster than your boss dictates. :niceone: i see how that makes the community safer.

really, your 14 year old son has his eyes open to the BS that is your job? there is hope yet. probably his generation that will see your one hung. he might string you up first, just to prove the point....:drinknsin

[Akzle]

What load of tripe! How in hell can you ever substantiate wild claims such as these. What a dreamer you have become in your own littlle world whilst trying to give some sort credence to your beliefs.((HTML failure.))

Nice one Akzle....
Course, I should just shut up...

easier just to dismiss it than try justifying your own position eh?

[scumdog]

just it, innit. there is no control to compare it to. what i CAN compare it to, is say, 1000 years ago, when there was some kind of over-bearing-dictate-and-enforce kind of arrangement, crime? check. now, today. crime? check.
so. must be working eh?
or you can take a shorter view on it. say the last 100 years, or even the last week.
what's fucken changed? people still saying "i want cops because i FEAR CRIME" chicken and egg shit or no? cops exist, have for (nearly) time immemorial, crime exists, has since the time of eve, innit?
people know that cops exist, people know that legislation exists that says they shouldn't drink-drive, hit kids, "speed" etc, but all this shit carrys on.
so. wtf the point in the cops?
can you provide links that show cops have improved anything, ever?


[/COLOR]

Waffle-waffle-wa-wa-wa-ad infinitum, ad neasuseum...

I saw that on coming miles away - you're so predictable!:rolleyes:

Oh, and no second prizes sonny, no second prizes... :bleh:

[rastuscat]

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easier just to dismiss it than try justifying your own position eh?

I feel as if I've outlined my views on enforcement often enough. So have you. Nothing says we have to agree, and I like that.

I've given up arguing with my 14 year old too.

[dangerous]

I rode 75 yesterday, was a nice we jount, even rode a brand new 1050R that replaced the priller I hiffed away, enjoyed a beer in the sun... fuck me SD n RC, green is envy some how I think some one is envious of us kiwi's... as for today, very wet just like several of the more recent posts... non ite