Operation Mataki - SH75 to Akaroa

[scumdog]

Wow, what a bunch of tree huggin hippy lovey dovey crap this has turned into.

Now it's just gonna turn in to a debate as to weather Oakie was taught the right stuff.

I must go and do one of these advance rider training things. See where the experts reckon I'm going wrong.

Why bother?
Ya know it all - dontcha?<_<

[Drew]

Why bother?
Ya know it all - dontcha?<_<Really, that's the attitude you wanna display? I think you're being quite the hypocrite there old boy.

[Scuba_Steve]

See where the experts reckon I'm going wrong.

Think the expert you need usually come in white coats :p

[Drew]

Think the expert you need usually come in white coats :p

Don't get me started on how wrong those cunts are doing it!

[Oakie]

basic shit really, things that a old bugger like you should know ;)

True, which is why I did the course. I was aware that there probably was a gap in learning as I taught myself to ride only from reading a couple of old 'how to ride' books from the library 34 years ago. I've never had anyone to show me the right way to do things and I've only ever done the one group ride so I haven't had the opportunity to be mentored. Hopefully I can prove that you can teach an old dog new tricks!

[rastuscat]

Hi All

Recovering well from having my second rectum installed. Well, the wound near Number 1 is healing well, so I'll be out on 75 sooner than I thought.

Did you find your lost seat OAB? I'll have the lads keep an eye out if not.

See yaz out there.

[Dave-]

Wow, what a bunch of tree huggin hippy lovey dovey crap this has turned into.

Now it's just gonna turn in to a debate as to weather Oakie was taught the right stuff.

I must go and do one of these advance rider training things. See where the experts reckon I'm going wrong.

I don't think it will.

See what I did there?

I'm gonna get Dan to show my girlfriend some tricks too.

Did that come out wrong? :D

[onearmedbandit]

Did you find your lost seat OAB? I'll have the lads keep an eye out if not.



No I didn't unfortunately. Thanks for that. It's black with two strips of (suspect) velcro on the back of it.

[Drew]

No I didn't unfortunately. Thanks for that. It's black with two strips of (suspect) velcro on the back of it.Looks better with the 'yump' anyway!

[GrayWolf]

Don't get me started on how wrong those cunts are doing it!

So tell me Drew, how long have you had this persecution complex? :innocent::corn:

[Drew]

So tell me Drew, how long have you had this persecution complex? :innocent::corn:Even if I told you, you wouldn't understand!

[Bison]

Have started this as a new one so I can post some notes regarding how our weekend SH75 operations are going.

I'll update when there is something worth saying.

Today was my first real day at it, with interesting results.

I set up the laser at quite a few different sites, and got bugger all. Awesome, happy with that. Lots of folk went past my parked Popo troll bike, and saw me pointing the death ray down the road. Lots of propaganda value in that, without costing anyone anything.

Catches were a chap doing 122 on a bike. A distant past acquaintance of mine, as it happens. I said "122, what do I do with that?" He said "Write the ticket", which is what I was hoping for coz I was gonna write it anyway.

Another bloke I found overtaking. He was coming down the outside of a line of cars travelling in the opposite direction. He saw me heading toward him and had nowhere to go, so he just hung tight where he was. We passed with him on my side of the centreline. He happily accepted the ticket. Even he could see that what he had done was shiters.

Lasered my last bloke at 178. Yup, 178. Hope the weather is nice in the next few weeks, he's got a 28 day walk. Then he has a court case to sort out.

The vast majority of bikers rode at good speeds and very sensibly. Nice bikes, many of them too.

Week ones report. Just FYI.

:woohoo:

So are you using A LTI 20-20 or Stalker instrument ? Found the early LTI's required the bikes to be closer than the newer Stalker units and quality control filters would hold back on the readings.

[rastuscat]

So are you using A LTI 20-20 or Stalker instrument ? Found the early LTI's required the bikes to be closer than the newer Stalker units and quality control filters would hold back on the readings.

Two Stalkers, actually. One for checking speed, the other is me, stalking donut deals.......

[dangerous]

Two Stalkers, actually. One for checking speed, the other is me, stalking donut deals.......Not sure what version it was I used of Felix's at the track a year or two ago, but ya needed to focus for a good 5sec's and it wasnt easy on a bike, they a bit faster and easier these days?

[Bison]

Two Stalkers, actually. One for checking speed, the other is me, stalking donut deals.......

PM me? Like to chat off line..don't worry, I'm harmless and animal-free tested. :)

[Oakie]

PM me? Like to chat off line..don't worry, I'm harmless and animal-free tested. :)

Careful RC. I think he may have heard of your extra rectum. Just don't agree to meet him. And don't send funny pictures of yourself if he asks

[Bison]

Careful RC. I think he may have heard of your extra rectum. Just don't agree to meet him. And don't send funny pictures of yourself if he asks


"I'm a lumberjack and I'm Ok, I sleep all night and I work all day"....rest of the song stuff doesn't apply....at least, not that womens' clothing thing.....anymore.:weep: I think my question about the Laser should be a hint.

[Oakie]

Yeah. Thought that. There aren't that many other professions that require a good knowledge of law enforcement laser tools. Good on you for taking my wanton suggestive comments on the chin too. Thought after I hurredly typed and sent that that perhaps I'd been a little offensive. But hey ... it is KB.

[Bison]

Yeah. Thought that. There aren't that many other professions that require a good knowledge of law enforcement laser tools. Good on you for taking my wanton suggestive comments on the chin too. Thought after I hurredly typed and sent that that perhaps I'd been a little offensive. But hey ... it is KB.

That's OK with me. I'm also a moderator on a couple of forums here too. Thick skin goes with both the paid and voluntary positions.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Wow, what a bunch of tree huggin hippy lovey dovey crap this has turned into.

Now it's just gonna turn in to a debate as to weather Oakie was taught the right stuff.

I must go and do one of these advance rider training things. See where the experts reckon I'm going wrong.

indeed you should, my son, indeed you should.

[Berries]

Not sure what version it was I used of Felix's at the track a year or two ago, but ya needed to focus for a good 5sec's and it wasnt easy on a bike, they a bit faster and easier these days?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[rastuscat]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I'm faster and easier these days too. Just don't tell Mrs Cat.

Seriously tho, think you used a ProLaser 2 at the track. They have been pensioned off, we have only Stalkers now. Some like em, some don't. We do, coz they are easy to fit in a slim line enforcement pannier.

[Mully Clown]

57 over the limit... in a 50. From a camera. On an unfamiliar bike. What's likely to happen?

[Berries]

Unfamiliar in what way? A sticking throttle or just really really quiet?

[Dave-]

57 over the limit... in a 50. From a camera. On an unfamiliar bike. What's likely to happen?

Miles per hour?

I think you'll find the argument goes something along the lines of: "part of learning to ride a motorcycle safely is knowing that each bike behaves differently and when on a different bike it is prudent to be extra careful - all road registered bikes have a speedo so you have no excuse"

Also regardless of whether you're riding a goldwing or a fireblade, if you can't tell the difference between 50km/h and 107km/h on an unfamiliar bike then you wont be able to slow it down any faster, regardless of the technological advancements that may or may not separate the familiar from the unfamiliar.

You'll get a ticket in the mail for $400 (I'm pretty sure) and no demerits, but you'll also get a wee flag on your driving record that tells any future queries that you're due for some karma.

[Oakie]

57 over the limit... in a 50. From a camera. On an unfamiliar bike. What's likely to happen?

Now before we get too excited ... were you heading towards the camera or away from it?

[Mully Clown]

Away from the camera. And it's not just a simple fine in the mail.


Further notification regarding the time and date of court proceedings may follow.

[Oakie]

Away from the camera. And it's not just a simple fine in the mail.

Mobile or fixed camera? My understanding is that there are more fixed camera sites than there are camerasto go in them so there is not necessarily a camera at home all the time.

[Berries]

Methinks there was a camera in this one.



It's got to be attempted murder hasn't it? :Police:

[FJRider]

Now before we get too excited ... were you heading towards the camera or away from it?

If he gets the notification that he (or more precise ... his plate) was "in the frame" ...

You don't get the 28 day walk with cameras .... but "Infringement limit" is 50 km's over any posted limit.

Expect to get a summons for you to appear ...

[Drew]

Away from the camera. And it's not just a simple fine in the mail.Depends if the guy who's decision it is to prosecute, can be bothered listening to bulshit excuses about proving who was on the bike and such.

Best you hope his missus doesn't slap his hand the night before.

[gloplg]

57 over the limit... in a 50. From a camera. On an unfamiliar bike. What's likely to happen?

Good luck with this MC!!!!!!!!!!

[rastuscat]

Depends if the guy who's decision it is to prosecute, can be bothered listening to bulshit excuses about proving who was on the bike and such.

Best you hope his missus doesn't slap his hand the night before.

107 in a 50 creates an enquiry file. It gets sent to the District the bike is registered to, and is dealt with under Section 118 of the Land Transport Act. The outcome is bad, at least 50% of the time. You might get lucky, or not.

Best solution. Invent a time machine, wind it back to just before you got flashed, and ride past the camera at a speed so as not to set it off.

Simple ideas, always the best.

BTW, out on SH75 again in a few days. See yaz out there.

[mulletman]

In a few days ? How about a few hours ago.....

[onearmedbandit]

Or, a better solution might be to register the bike to a far away district, a busy one might be best. They see the offence was at the other end of the country and shelve it. :msn-wink:

[FJRider]

Or, a better solution might be to register the bike to a far away district, a busy one might be best. They see the offence was at the other end of the country and shelve it. :msn-wink:

Considering the system is usually automatic ... the ticket will be mailed to the registered owner. Wherever that portion of civilization in NZ is ... they reside. Or how civilized that portion actually is.

[onearmedbandit]

Considering the system is usually automatic ... the ticket will be mailed to the registered owner. Wherever that portion of civilization in NZ is ... they reside. Or how civilized that portion actually is.

You think I'm serious... ???:killingme

[FJRider]

Depends if the guy who's decision it is to prosecute, can be bothered listening to bulshit excuses about proving who was on the bike and such.

Best you hope his missus doesn't slap his hand the night before.

As I recall ... in such cases the summons is sent to the registered owner. If they dispute the charge on the grounds they were not the person riding at the time the offence occurred. They have to supply information on who actually was. Subject to a $10,000 fine if they refuse to.

Then it gets messy ...

The onus is on the registered owner to prove it wasn't them (not ... :innocent: until proven guilty). And to prove other persons have the ability to use the vehicle without their knowledge.

In the case of minor infringements ... the powers that be often don't persue the matter if it is disputed. (At their discretion of course)

For serious offence's .. that may not be the case. (in the pursuit of justice of course)

[rastuscat]

Considering the system is usually automatic ... the ticket will be mailed to the registered owner. Wherever that portion of civilization in NZ is ... they reside. Or how civilized that portion actually is.

Infringements count up to 50 over. Beyond that, they have to be dealt with by way of Traffic Offence Notice, or TON.

Section 118 of the LTA requires the registered person (RP) to supply the riders details, or information that could lead to the riders identification. It's not enough to just say sorry Popo, I don't know his name.

Tickets can be posted to the RP for speed camera offences up to 50 over, and red light offences. Parking offences too, and reg and WoF type offences, but those are called Stationary Vehicle Infringement Notices, or SVIONs.

The processes are very specific, but people often confuse the systems. If I had a donut for every time someone makes a complaint to me and just wants me to post out an ION, I'd be a lardy arse Popo who wouldn't fit on a bike. Matters not able to be dealt with by SVIONs and approved vehicle surveillance equipment (speed cams, red light cams, and in some towns bus lane cams), have to be dealt with by Section 118. It's a pain in the arse, and often they just get ignored due to the low chance of finding the offender.

In the real world, it can also depend on how busy the Popos are. Hit and miss at times.

[rastuscat]

As I recall ... in such cases the summons is sent to the registered owner. If they dispute the charge on the grounds they were not the person riding at the time the offence occurred. They have to supply information on who actually was. Subject to a $10,000 fine if they refuse to.

Then it gets messy ...

The onus is on the registered owner to prove it wasn't them (not ... :innocent: until proven guilty). And to prove other persons have the ability to use the vehicle without their knowledge.


Our boy racer team deals with them a lot. The courts got sick of the little toads turning up in court and saying that they leave the keys in the car in the driveway, and that anyone could have been driving it.

Funny. The courts down here are taking Section 118 offences fairly seriously. For example, a car does a burnout, and the Popos find a group of toe rags gathered, with nobody admitting who was driving. The registered person gets a 118 request, says sorry, don't know who was driving. The reg pers gets charged with a S118 offence, and turns up in court protesting how unfair it all is. In Chur Chur the courts levy nasty fines and Section 80 disqualifications, just to wipe the smile from the face.

My original suggestion stands as the best. Invent a time machine, wind back to the minute before the camera flashed, and ride past at a speed that won't trigger it. Simple ideas always the best.

[rastuscat]

In a few days ? How about a few hours ago.....

Not me, must've been one of my troops.

[FJRider]

In the real world, it can also depend on how busy the Popos are. Hit and miss at times.

I am familiar with the "Failing to provide information" ... first hand I might add. Thanks to a "mate" that took my bike for a ride without my knowledge or permission. I wasn't actually even in the country at the time. And was easy to prove that. (Passport stamps don't lie) But it was still a long drawn out shit-fight in court.

It took a "visit" to the guilty person at 3 am ... with a few other mates ... to "persuade" him to own up.

[FJRider]

My original suggestion stands as the best. Invent a time machine, wind back to the minute before the camera flashed, and ride past at a speed that won't trigger it. Simple ideas always the best.

Doing the crime is never the issue ... getting caught doing the crime is.

Yes simple works ... don't do it or don't get caught doing it ...

[scumdog]

Funny. The courts down here are taking Section 118 offences fairly seriously. For example, a car does a burnout, and the Popos find a group of toe rags gathered, with nobody admitting who was driving. The registered person gets a 118 request, says sorry, don't know who was driving. The reg pers gets charged with a S118 offence, and turns up in court protesting how unfair it all is. In Chur Chur the courts levy nasty fines and Section 80 disqualifications, just to wipe the smile from the face.

t.

Saw a bunch summonsed to Court similar circumstances to above, all smirking, nudging each other, chock full of urban myth law etc.

After the first fine of $1,500 + disqualification was handed out the others couldn't wait to 'suddenly remember' who was driving, smirks went away too etc, sucks to be them...


Sometimes going to Court sucks.

Especially when I've got to share the same air as some who are there not by choice.

[gloplg]

Sometimes going to Court sucks.

Especially when I've got to share the same air as some who are there not by choice.

I was under the impression that Po Pos also had very little choice about appearing?????

[FJRider]

I was under the impression that Po Pos also had very little choice about appearing?????

He has a choice to be there or not.

The result of his non-appearance would be better for him ... than it would be for the offender to not appear in court ....

[dangerous]

Hit a section of 75 today... how the fuck some of them homo racer cars are on the road is beyond me :mad:

[onearmedbandit]

Hit a section of 75 today...

Again?? Whose bike this time?

[FJRider]

Hit a section of 75 today... how the fuck some of them homo racer cars are on the road is beyond me :mad:

You're Dangerous ... oh wait ... :nya:

[rastuscat]

Anyone on SH75 Friday afternoon this week? Stop for a chat.

Be careful though, I'll have a laser with me.

See yaz.

[Subike]

You may not get many donuts today, not with the showers predicted.
Most of the weekend warriors, MOST, will see rain and hide behind the TV.

[onearmedbandit]

Anyone on SH75 Friday afternoon this week? Stop for a chat.

Be careful though, I'll have a laser with me.

See yaz.

Damn, I'll be at work sorry.

[onearmedbandit]

Saw a couple of your guys out there today Rastuscat. Went past the two of them like they were standing still, they didn't even bother attempting to keep up.






























I hope they enjoyed their coffee and croissant at the cafe they were stopped at.

[FJRider]

I hope they enjoyed their coffee and croissant at the cafe they were stopped at.

Are you sure ... :msn-wink: it might have been donuts ... :rolleyes:

[rastuscat]

Saw a couple of your guys out there today Rastuscat. Went past the two of them like they were standing still, they didn't even bother attempting to keep up.


I hope they enjoyed their coffee and croissant at the cafe they were stopped at.

I just spoke to one of them. He has whip lash from having watched you go past so fast.

Your ticket for Donut Avoidance is in the post.

[Mully Clown]

For those that were asking (it's semi on-topic as the incident happened on a feeder to SH75)...



I [constable from Wellington] allege that you the abovenamed [that's me] did on the [date] at Christchurch commit an offence against...

S.40 & 133 Land Transport Act 1998 & regs 3 & 4 Offences & Penalties Regs 1999 & 5.1 Road User Rule 2004.

The maximum penalty for this offence is $1000.00
The minimum penalty expressly provided for the offence is____
Other consequences of conviction for the offence is___

[Mully Clown]

Best solution. Invent a time machine, wind it back to just before you got flashed, and ride past the camera at a speed so as not to set it off.


This is the truth and the approach I try to take at all times. Of course with a time machine you can turn up anywhere 15 minutes before you left. Run that through the distance over time calculation and you could be in for a surprise.

[Dave-]

This is the truth and the approach I try to take at all times. Of course with a time machine you can turn up anywhere 15 minutes before you left. Run that through the distance over time calculation and you could be in for a surprise.

No surprise?

If you tried getting there at the same time as you left, THEN calculating distance over time you might get a hairy number.

out of interest, rastus, have you ever pinged anyone for breaking the speed limit in reverse?

[rastuscat]

Couple of hours on Op Mataki yesterday.

Stopped a car for going too slow, turned out to be in breach of her Licence conditions. Imagine that.

Next stop was a bloke riding a classic Trumpy wearing shorts and t-shirt. I know, I know, perfectly legal, but always worth a chat. Turned out to have no motorcycle Licence. Bike reg on hold since 2007.

Next, stopped a bike with no headlight on. His mate stopped too, just down the road a bit, and walked back. Suspicious, we had a look at his bike. It was of less concern than the fact that he had no Licence. Mr No Headlight had no Licence either.

We packed our bags and went home, as it appeared that we were unlikely to find anyone actually legal.

Interesting part was that we had an observer. A journo who writes for bike mags. He was of the opinion that he is totally legal, so he'd be cheesed off if he was stopped for a random Licence check. He was gob smacked at the lack of bike licences. We now look forward to seeing what appears in the bike mags.

Anyway, to anyone who has followed this thread, we will be back out each weekend, see ya there.

Rastuscat

[rastuscat]

No surprise?

If you tried getting there at the same time as you left, THEN calculating distance over time you might get a hairy number.

out of interest, rastus, have you ever pinged anyone for breaking the speed limit in reverse?

No, odd question, but no.

[scumdog]

No, odd question, but no.

You can get 120kph out of a Commodore in reverse..apparently...:crazy:

[dangerous]

You can get 120kph out of a Commodore in reverse..apparently...:crazy:yeah but at 110 the lights fall off...

[onearmedbandit]

Couple of hours on Op Mataki yesterday.



Rastuscat

Brilliant, some of that made for funny reading. Much action out there today? Or did you give yourself the day off after yesterdays haul?

[FJRider]

Next, stopped a bike with no headlight on. His mate stopped too, just down the road a bit, and walked back. Suspicious, we had a look at his bike. It was of less concern than the fact that he had no Licence. Mr No Headlight had no Licence either.

Rastuscat

Is it true ... ALL motorcycles are required to have their headlights on ... or is it just the ones produced after the first of January, 1980 .. ???

[Rashika]

Are you sure ... :msn-wink: it might have been donuts ... :rolleyes:

Yeap definately donuts, musta had a 2nd helping cos they still there when i went past too.;)

[Rashika]

We packed our bags and went home, as it appeared that we were unlikely to find anyone actually legal.



Anyway, to anyone who has followed this thread, we will be back out each weekend, see ya there.

Rastuscat

Hmmm well thats the last time i get all spruced up and poodle around waiting for mr policeman to pull me up... They had all gone home. I was tempted to stop at taitap to say hi but had only just got on the bike again, maybe next time... As long as its only for a bike/licence check and not that SPEED check, ok?
So which one are you? I dont wanna call your mate rastus, he might get a bit agro about that :whistle:

[FJRider]

So which one are you? I dont wanna call your mate rastus, he might get a bit agro about that :whistle:

I'm sure he'll see it as a compliment ... and give you a Donut ... :killingme

[scumdog]

Hmmm well thats the last time i get all spruced up and poodle around waiting for mr policeman to pull me up...:whistle:


Bloody tart - ya never play 'keen to see ya' when I'm around!;):whistle:

[Rashika]

Bloody tart - ya never play 'keen to see ya' when I'm around!;):whistle:

Awww scummy, you not jealous now are you sweet?? Didnt i give you a big smooch last time i saw ya?

[dangerous]

Bloody tart - ya never play 'keen to see ya' when I'm around!;):whistle:
HEY... ya get more out a her than I do man :pinch:



Turned out to have no motorcycle Licence
the fact that he had no Licence
Mr No Headlight had no Licence either.
So, I know I have asked this before cos it aint the first time you have grabed several licenceless riders, what is the main reason
A, lost due to excess of demerits
B, a one time only exceeding 40k over
C, drink driving
D, never had a licence
E, other reason

[scumdog]

D, never had a licence



The most common one down here...

[Jantar]

HEY... ya get more out a her than I do man :pinch:


So, I know I have asked this before cos it aint the first time you have grabed several licenceless riders, what is the main reason
A, lost due to excess of demerits
B, a one time only exceeding 40k over
C, drink driving
D, never had a licence
E, other reason

F, Had a motorcycle licence in the early 1980s, was out of the country for 3 years when the new licencing system came into force. When he/she came back his/her Australian car licence didn't have motorcycle on it, so his/her current NZ licence doesn't have motorcycle either. Yes it Does apply to one rider I know.

[Ocean1]

F, Had a motorcycle licence in the early 1980s, was out of the country for 3 years when the new licencing system came into force. When he/she came back his/her Australian car licence didn't have motorcycle on it, so his/her current NZ licence doesn't have motorcycle either. Yes it Does apply to one rider I know.

I lost 4 different classes of licence that way.

[rastuscat]

Brilliant, some of that made for funny reading. Much action out there today? Or did you give yourself the day off after yesterdays haul?

Nah, nobody working Op Mataki this weekend. It was my duty weekend, but I'm the boss, so I gave myself the weekend off.

Next weekend we're committed to working the Elite Cycling Nationals, so no Op Mataki then either. Still, there's every chance the Highways guys get out there.

Out of interest, I have a letter S on the rear of my work helmet. My lads have numbers, that's how to tell if it's me.

[Gremlin]

Out of interest, I have a letter S on the rear of my work helmet. My lads have numbers, that's how to tell if it's me.
For Sir?

I'm thinking, when they pull you over and you try to run around behind them... it may not go so well ;)

[schrodingers cat]

Hmmm well thats the last time i get all spruced up and poodle around waiting for mr policeman to pull me up... They had all gone home. I was tempted to stop at taitap to say hi but had only just got on the bike again, maybe next time... As long as its only for a bike/licence check and not that SPEED check, ok?
So which one are you? I dont wanna call your mate rastus, he might get a bit agro about that :whistle:


Likewise. Had a ride Friday arvo, enjoyed it so much so went out again yesterday. Never saw popo!
However having read the previous posts I now realise that having Rego/WOF/License and more or less keeping to the speed limit makes Police invisible.
Who knew?

Or could it be because I usually come through Gebbes and pop out on after Millers Road?

[rastuscat]

For Sir?

I'm thinking, when they pull you over and you try to run around behind them... it may not go so well ;)

It's the last letter of our callsigns. It helps us to ID each other from behind. It arose from motorcade work, where we work in front of the lead Popo car. They had trouble telling one bike from the other, so we put the last number (mines a letter, S for sergeant) of our callsign on the back.

Being in the Popo, we watch our backs out of habit. Be careful :Police: :2thumbsup

[Subike]

Likewise. Had a ride Friday arvo, enjoyed it so much so went out again yesterday. Never saw popo!
However having read the previous posts I now realise that having Rego/WOF/License and more or less keeping to the speed limit makes Police invisible.
Who knew?

Or could it be because I usually come through Gebbes and pop out on after Millers Road?

Ahh, so thats the reason I have not even been looked at in the past 9 mths, Reg/WOF/Licance all legit. Dang. Makes me invisible to the police too? Or could it be that my riding habits have changed since becoming legit, and have stops riding like an idiot, (over the speed limit)

Nice work on the pulls of the unlicensed riders, pity you were not doing the bays yesterday, saw some terrible riding between lyttelton and the wheatsheif, Overtaking on blind corners and speeds that were not safe. And I am not a slow rider around the hills myself.

[Berries]

It helps us to ID each other from behind.
Ello, ello ello.

[Racing Dave]

Anyway, to anyone who has followed this thread, we will be back out each weekend, see ya there.

Rastuscat

Keep an eye out for this!

[rastuscat]

Oi! :mad:

This is a thread about ME !!!!!!!!

Leave Gremlin alone.

It's MY thread. MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE.

:angry:

[ellipsis]

...but it's my driveway...

[willytheekid]

Oi! :mad:

This is a thread about ME !!!!!!!!

Leave Gremlin alone.

It's MY thread. MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE.

:angry:
:yes:
275788
...its mine!...I MEAN YOURS!!:pinch: :sweatdrop

[Subike]

Oi! :mad:

This is a thread about ME !!!!!!!!

Leave Gremlin alone.

It's MY thread. MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE.

:angry:

Yeah :2thumbsup , a pointless post from you rasta, looks like your melting into the humor of the site, not taking things too seriously. Theres hope for you yet......Oh sorry, you thread, yes sir!! :motu:

[rastuscat]

Yeah :2thumbsup , a pointless post from you rasta, looks like your melting into the humor of the site, not taking things too seriously. Theres hope for you yet......Oh sorry, you thread, yes sir!! :motu:

Groan, have I passed to the Dark Side?

[Paul in NZ]

Groan, have I passed to the Dark Side?

Yes but dont worry - it only hurts for about a week....

[Bald Eagle]

Groan, have I passed to the Dark Side?

This is kb, there is only darkness here.
Btw and off topic did welly orks and return last week. only saw 1 revenue collector and 1 laser operator in 1400k's - your northern colleagues all on holiday.

[FJRider]

Btw and off topic did welly orks and return last week. only saw 1 revenue collector and 1 laser operator in 1400k's - your northern colleagues all on holiday.

Both the cops here in Paradise ... were were working over the holidays ... :yes:

[rastuscat]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder..................

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[rastuscat]

Helmet ID for me and my troops

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The dude in Pic 1 was discussing his safety gear................yeah right.

[dangerous]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder..................

that its great he has a white hat and all as we all know they are the best lids to be seen in... HOWEVER, he realy needs a visor on it as it will help him see where he is going?

[FJRider]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder..................



A caption contest pic for sure ... ???

[scumdog]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder..................



Cotton wool for brains???

[rastuscat]

Just read this on Stuff............

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8150995/Motorcyclist-seriously-injured-in-crash

Hope it wasn't too bad.

It's why we do SH75, trying to help prevent things like that.

[rastuscat]

A caption contest pic for sure ... ???

Yeah mate, real donuts are THIS big.........

[Subike]

Caption?
""sir your penis does not need to be this big to stay under 100kph""

[onearmedbandit]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder..................



"No no no, it's a hop to the left, then a step to the rii ii ii iiight".

[FJRider]

Sir ... you have come this close to not getting an infringement notice ... Please try again tomorrow ...

[Canis G.]

Just read this on Stuff............

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8150995/Motorcyclist-seriously-injured-in-crash

Hope it wasn't too bad.

It's why we do SH75, trying to help prevent things like that.

Was my mate I was riding with, broken ribs, punctured lung, concussion, short term amnesia and a bit of grazing. Will be a few days in the hospital (then his wife will kill him). I was in front and didn't see what happened but it seems he lost mantrol going around a corner.

[rossirep]

Was my mate I was riding with, broken ribs, punctured lung, concussion, short term amnesia and a bit of grazing. Will be a few days in the hospital (then his wife will kill him). I was in front and didn't see what happened but it seems he lost mantrol going around a corner.

what sort of bike was he on ?? there was a few bikes over that way today as a few of us went for a ride and we were parked up at lil river havin a drink when the fire trucks pulled up and asked if we needed help..??? then they drove of towards chch and then a min later drove back the other way heading back to Akaroa.. mint day for a ride thou, pity about the out come for ya mate.

[rastuscat]

?......... but it seems he lost mantrol going around a corner.

Classic SH75 outcome.

Mon to Fri most bike crashes happen in crossing and turning crashes in the built up areas. Weekends they are loss of control crashes on open roads.

Holidays distort the pattern, coz more folk have days off during the week.

Think on this. If I had spoken to you unfortunate friend before his bin and asked him if he was a safe rider, and if he was going to crash, I'd get the same answer I'd get from virtually everybody. Yet crashes still happen.

Ride with caution dudes. I know biking is about freedom, but it's also about getting home unbroken.

Hope your man survives the encounter with his wife.

[dangerous]

Classic SH75 outcome. and pulling speeders on the straights, non licenced and no wof/reg bikes will bring a different outcome?


Think on this. If I had spoken to you unfortunate friend before his bin and asked him if he was a safe rider, and if he was going to crash, I'd get the same answer I'd get from virtually everybody. Yet crashes still happen.sorry man, but ya doing it all wrong IMHO... what you are doing will and does make SFA if any differance... if it does its cos illagle riders are staying off 75, hence numbers are down.
Where do most acco's happen? on the straights or sweepers where you patrol and pull... I wouldnt think so I'd think and of course I could well be wrong that most are in the hills where I dont think you patrol... like how can you its bloody hard to exceed 100k there, you might be able to bust out the dangerous or cearless... but then whos to say what that is.

Its still my belief you guys are out there more so for the locals benifit, of course I know saftey for all and bikers is a passion too.
Thing is using Mr last week end land on his arse as a example is not fair... you and me dont know him... yeah he may have been a acco waiting to happen, or he could be like me... with an excess of 300,000k under my belt plus many racing hours a lot on street circuts and after 27 years I arsed up on 75 (except 1 incdent on the track and thats a story on its own LOL) I cant find a reason as to why I went down, was doing everything "right" what ever that is... want to make a differance? talk to the experanced, my opion... well kiwi's always think they know it all are bullet proff and have to prove shit to others.. I know Im one... other thing is a MASSIVE lack of training, so many I follow, its just time...

[Buyasta]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder..................



How the hell do you guys survive wearing all that gear while just standing around waiting for your next customer?.. It''s not an issue while moving, but I find the couple of minutes in my garage getting everything on and the bike warmed up bad enough, not to mention every set of lights or intersection. I think if I had to stand by the side of the road for more than 5 minutes I'd wind up drowning.

[caspernz]

well kiwi's always think they know it all are bullet proff and have to prove shit to others.. I know Im one... other thing is a MASSIVE lack of training, so many I follow, its just time...

Yep, the ole I'm a (have a) bigger dick than the next guy and my over inflated ego can't let the other guy get away from me...ending with a spell dining on hospital food...seen it often enough. Bit like some holiday swimmers :brick:

[scumdog]

and pulling speeders on the straights,

Speeder speed on corners too - and people tend to overcook corners - a lot more than they overcook straights...but they're easier to stop on straights.;)

[rastuscat]

How the hell do you guys survive wearing all that gear while just standing around waiting for your next customer?.. It''s not an issue while moving, but I find the couple of minutes in my garage getting everything on and the bike warmed up bad enough, not to mention every set of lights or intersection. I think if I had to stand by the side of the road for more than 5 minutes I'd wind up drowning.

Try wearing a kevlar covert stab vest too. We have to.

[rastuscat]

and pulling speeders on the straights, non licenced and no wof/reg bikes will bring a different outcome?

sorry man, but ya doing it all wrong IMHO... what you are doing will and does make SFA if any differance... if it does its cos illagle riders are staying off 75, hence numbers are down.
Where do most acco's happen? on the straights or sweepers where you patrol and pull... I wouldnt think so I'd think and of course I could well be wrong that most are in the hills where I dont think you patrol... like how can you its bloody hard to exceed 100k there, you might be able to bust out the dangerous or cearless... but then whos to say what that is.

Its still my belief you guys are out there more so for the locals benifit, of course I know saftey for all and bikers is a passion too.
Thing is using Mr last week end land on his arse as a example is not fair... you and me dont know him... yeah he may have been a acco waiting to happen, or he could be like me... with an excess of 300,000k under my belt plus many racing hours a lot on street circuts and after 27 years I arsed up on 75 (except 1 incdent on the track and thats a story on its own LOL) I cant find a reason as to why I went down, was doing everything "right" what ever that is... want to make a differance? talk to the experanced, my opion... well kiwi's always think they know it all are bullet proff and have to prove shit to others.. I know Im one... other thing is a MASSIVE lack of training, so many I follow, its just time...

Dude, sorry that we don't see eye to eye. Seriously.

What would you rather we do? What will make a difference? Remember not to suggest shit beyond my ability to do, like change laws etc. I'm not going to set up a motorcycle training school either, there are some good ones of those already.

Go on, what can a Sergeant and two Senior Constables to to make motorcyclists safer?

Happy to listen to positive suggestions.

[Subike]

Dude, sorry that we don't see eye to eye. Seriously.

What would you rather we do? What will make a difference? Remember not to suggest shit beyond my ability to do, like change laws etc. I'm not going to set up a motorcycle training school either, there are some good ones of those already.

Go on, what can a Sergeant and two Senior Constables to to make motorcyclists safer?

Happy to listen to positive suggestions.


Being out there on the road, making yourselves visabile at peck accident times, catching the stupid buggers who obviously have more balls than brains............wait, your doing that already!

High visability I think will be a help, maybe a cardboard cut out of a popo bike at the end of a corner, just at a point it can be seen for a couple of secs....a rider might think twice at attempting 150+ past that line of cars he had had to endure for the last 5 k's

[dangerous]

Dude, sorry that we don't see eye to eye. Seriously.

What would you rather we do? What will make a difference? Remember not to suggest shit beyond my ability to do, like change laws etc. I'm not going to set up a motorcycle training school either, there are some good ones of those already.

Go on, what can a Sergeant and two Senior Constables to to make motorcyclists safer?

Happy to listen to positive suggestions.

Unfortunatly... nothing, ya doing all ya can and resepct to that. Dont think for a second Im knocking you or your men.
Honest Id rather you did nothing different... what Im saying in my dangerese way is dont expect 'much' change in the acco stats on 75, I aployd your style.



Speeder speed on corners too - and people tend to overcook corners - a lot more than they overcook straights...but they're easier to stop on straights.;)Who pulled you fucking chain copper?


last time we rode 75 I was on you Hardley Dangerous with ya missus on the back going around the out side of ya on the Suzuki turbie :nya: damn that cut deep...

[Dave-]

No D, you're doing it all wrong, you're going about this all wrong, you're wrong and I have no good reasons why, except one, and that is because you're wrong.

Also most accidents happen on corners, this is a fact.

[dangerous]

No D, you're doing it all wrong, you're going about this all wrong, you're wrong and I have no good reasons why, except one, and that is because you're wrong.
Its cos Im a ginger aye Dave, racest prick :sweatdrop

[Subike]

No D, you're doing it all wrong, you're going about this all wrong, you're wrong and I have no good reasons why, except one, and that is because you're wrong.

Also most accidents happen on corners, this is a fact.


says he that only has race track corners to fall off on these days.........seen some fucking dumb assed riding on straight roads over the years Dave, mostly concerned with speed and overtaking to keep up with the faster riders by young fellas on stressed out sprot scooters..
The... " of course I can "" boys.....

[Gremlin]

Also most accidents happen on corners, this is a fact.
My last one happened on a straight... a little embarrasing, but I've always maintained I hate straights...

[Canis G.]

what sort of bike was he on ?? there was a few bikes over that way today as a few of us went for a ride and we were parked up at lil river havin a drink when the fire trucks pulled up and asked if we needed help..??? then they drove of towards chch and then a min later drove back the other way heading back to Akaroa.. mint day for a ride thou, pity about the out come for ya mate.

1450 (I think) Harley with running boards forward controls etc., your classic Harley cruiser I guess. Yeah outcome was a shitter (he's broken his collarbone as well) we had a great day with some really nice riding and good company. Bugger.

[FJRider]

My last one happened on a straight... a little embarrasing, but I've always maintained I hate straights...

If you that's embarrassing ... Mine always happen under 10 km/hr ... :pinch:

[Jantar]

If you that's embarrassing ... Mine always happen under 10 km/hr ... :pinch:
My most serious crash ever happened on a straight piece of road at 50 km/h. No other vehicles involved either.

[Canis G.]

Classic SH75 outcome.


Think on this. If I had spoken to you unfortunate friend before his bin and asked him if he was a safe rider, and if he was going to crash, I'd get the same answer I'd get from virtually everybody. Yet crashes still happen.

Ride with caution dudes. I know biking is about freedom, but it's also about getting home unbroken.

Hope your man survives the encounter with his wife.

Funny thing is we were talking about exactly that before we set off and the guy is a real safe cruiser on the road. I am guessing he made a bad call on the corner - I didn't see and he can't remember a thing about the 3 hours before or during.

[Gremlin]

If you that's embarrassing ... Mine always happen under 10 km/hr ... :pinch:
Barely an adventure ride goes by without dropping it at least once... <10kph doesn't count to me I reckon, as uh, I meant to do it!

[Ocean1]

Barely an adventure ride goes by without dropping it at least once... <10kph doesn't count to me I reckon, as uh, I meant to do it!

Meh. Dirt. If you're not having a wee rest at least once a ride you're not really trying.

[Dave-]

says he that only has race track corners to fall off on these days.........seen some fucking dumb assed riding on straight roads over the years Dave, mostly concerned with speed and overtaking to keep up with the faster riders by young fellas on stressed out sprot scooters..
The... " of course I can "" boys.....


My last one happened on a straight... a little embarrasing, but I've always maintained I hate straights...

I've crashed over 10 times, twice on a straight when a car pulled out infront of me, every other time on a corner.

[Subike]

I've crashed over 10 times, twice on a straight when a car pulled out infront of me, every other time on a corner.

lol, with that being so, leave the bike alone and stick to four wheels Dave :gob:

[Gremlin]

Meh. Dirt. If you're not having a wee rest at least once a ride you're not really trying.
Good point, agree completely. After all, why else does it have so much protection (well, mine does)...

Odds are, something else gets damaged (including me) before the bike suffers any more than a scratch.

[gloplg]

Anyway there I was in the Little River Pub quietly having a kip:zzzz::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:, when this mostly white with a bit of red streek goes roaring past at about 20:15ish and wakes me up.

Poor thing sounded like it was doing about 19,000 rpm:devil2::devil2::devil2::devil2:.

[onearmedbandit]

Anyway there I was in the Little River Pub quietly having a kip:zzzz::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:, when this mostly white with a bit of red streek goes roaring past at about 20:15ish and wakes me up.

Poor thing sounded like it was doing about 19,000 rpm:devil2::devil2::devil2::devil2:.

19,000rpm?? Must've been a 250.

[gloplg]

19,000rpm?? Must've been a 250.

Or perhaps a 125?????

[mulletman]

Im guesin the bike popo will be doing escorting work for the national elite cycle racing this weekend?
SH75 may be clear this weekend of rastus...

[Dave-]

Im guesin the bike popo will be doing escorting work for the national elite cycle racing this weekend?
SH75 may be clear this weekend of rastus...

That's what he wants you to think, so he can actually do SH75, but he know's you think that so he will actually do the cycle thing, but secretly he will actually do SH75 cause he know's you've tried tricking him....ad infinitum...best bet is to just stick to the speed limit to be honest.

[Gremlin]

That's what he wants you to think, so he can actually do SH75, but he know's you think that so he will actually do the cycle thing, but secretly he will actually do SH75 cause he know's you've tried tricking him....ad infinitum...best bet is to just stick to the speed limit to be honest.
Wait, so he's doing the cycle race and SH75 is clear, or

He wants you to think he's doing the cycle race, but he's actually doing SH75 and going to snare the whole lot of unsuspecting people, or

He wants you to think he's tricking you into thinking he's going to snare the whole lot of you, so you'll behave and he can do the cycle race with peace and calm on SH75, or

uh... :wacko:

[gloplg]

Wait, so he's doing the cycle race and SH75 is clear, or

He wants you to think he's doing the cycle race, but he's actually doing SH75 and going to snare the whole lot of unsuspecting people, or

He wants you to think he's tricking you into thinking he's going to snare the whole lot of you, so you'll behave and he can do the cycle race with peace and calm on SH75, or

uh... :wacko:

Yes it's a worry isn't it. :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

He will probably organise the car's to be hiding at the end of every straight!!!!!!!

[rastuscat]

Actually we've been learning to camouflage the RTs. We have been hiding in the bushes every day since the early 1900s. On the days you've seen us, we've been there. On the days you haven't seen us, we've been there, but you didn't see us coz we hid dem boikes real real good, Cletus.

Get a grip. Whether we're there or not, don't ride like a dick. Likely you won't have an issue.

I don't control the car Popos, so can't say whether they will be there or not. We're working the cycling nationals, see yaz next weekend.

:cool:

[GrayWolf]

Out on SH75 at the weekend. I can't even remember what I was discussing with the chap.

Makes me wonder................. CAPTION THIS.

No Sir, I'm afraid that it's the other way round. If your PENIS really is THAT large, you are restricted to riding a 125cc, not a Hayubusa.

[GrayWolf]

and pulling speeders on the straights, non licenced and no wof/reg bikes will bring a different outcome?


Where do most acco's happen? on the straights or sweepers where you patrol and pull... I wouldnt think so I'd think and of course I could well be wrong that most are in the hills where I dont think you patrol... like how can you its bloody hard to exceed 100k there, you might be able to bust out the dangerous or cearless... but then whos to say what that is.

Thing is using Mr last week end land on his arse as a example is not fair... you and me dont know him... yeah he may have been a acco waiting to happen, or he could be like me... with an excess of 300,000k under my belt plus many racing hours a lot on street circuts and after 27 years I arsed up on 75 (except 1 incdent on the track and thats a story on its own LOL) I cant find a reason as to why I went down, was doing everything "right" what ever that is... want to make a differance? talk to the experanced, my opion... well kiwi's always think they know it all are bullet proff and have to prove shit to others.. I know Im one... other thing is a MASSIVE lack of training, so many I follow, its just time...

C'mon Dangerous,
Thats just bull mate... if after 300,000km of riding over 27 yrs + racing you couldnt work out why you went down? if it wasnt your riding technique, then it had to be a road condition issue, which you'd have felt?? Or a problem with the bike, which you'd have also felt while riding, unless an explosive blow out,,, which youd have felt.
And mate, I've done 38yrs and between 20-30k a year, so likely close to a Mill k's.. certainly doesnt make me an expert, and I had a wee off for the first time in over 25yrs last year, on a 25kph bend! Absolutely 100% my fault,, even if the reason I 'lost it' was due to water that had run down a mud bank being on the surface.. I arsed up my entry angle.
Rastus is doing a good job from what I read on here, I'd rather see or be 'tugged' by a Popo who is a Motorcyclist at heart, than one just doing it for a job. if you get tugged? They have a reason... if they find 'extra's' on top of that reason? Silly you...
As for anyone being an accident waiting to happen? Yes there are some/many who fit that category (usually on this years crotchwank 1000cc Hypersprot) but the again, how many here could hand on heart say they have never taken a risky manouvre??

[dangerous]

so likely close to a Mill k's.. certainly doesnt make me an expert, me nither... the day you stop learning is the day you die.




C'mon Dangerous,
Thats just bull mate... if after 300,000km of riding over 27 yrs + racing you couldnt work out why you went down? if it wasnt your riding technique, then it had to be a road condition issue, which you'd have felt?? Or a problem with the bike, which you'd have also felt while riding, unless an explosive blow out,,, which youd have felt.ya right... and ya must of missed earler posts... I believe it was a 5yr old sport tyre with 3800km on it on a cold day that was slightly over inflated that caused me to land on my arse.
riding technique... aceptable, a Tuono is hard to get wrong
road condition... cold but clean and in good nick
problem with the bike... na it was near new
explosive blow out... na



Rastus is doing a good job from what I read on here, I'd rather see or be 'tugged' by a Popo who is a Motorcyclist at heart, than one just doing it for a job. if you get tugged? They have a reason... if they find 'extra's' on top of that reason? Silly you...
As for anyone being an accident waiting to happen? Yes there are some/many who fit that category (usually on this years crotchwank 1000cc Hypersprot) but the again, how many here could hand on heart say they have never taken a risky manouvre??
agreed

[Dave-]

D'you know what actually worked? that no cruising thing, I mean I was all for stopping the wee fucks with their piece of shit cars, but I honestly thought it'd be a giant fail cause they'd work out they just had to drive down a different road for 10 minutes, turns out I was wrong, the wee fucks never worked it out and after it came in it was much quieter on the aves, plus I think the general number of boy racers in chch has actually reduced.

What you should do rastus is put a "no speeding" bylaw sign up.

[98tls]

me nither... the day you stop learning is the day you die.



ya right... and ya must of missed earler posts... I believe it was a 5yr old sport tyre with 3800km on it on a cold day that was slightly over inflated that caused me to land on my arse.
riding technique... aceptable, a Tuono is hard to get wrong
road condition... cold but clean and in good nick
problem with the bike... na it was near new
explosive blow out... na


agreed

:brick:Fella fact is you were riding a motorcycle without safety cylinders (surely thats why Guzzi mount there motors the wrong way).Bit like a kid on his 1st outing without training wheels.;)

[98tls]

Have to say i agree with Graywolf,Rastuscats made an interesting thread (just read it start to so far)and if indeed i had the misfortune to meet him then parting with some $ would be somewhat tempered by A it was no doubt deserved,B seems a genuine bloke to me.Good on ya fella all seems as it should be.

[dangerous]

:brick:Fella fact is you were riding a motorcycle without safety cylinders (surely thats why Guzzi mount there motors the wrong way).Bit like a kid on his 1st outing without training wheels.;)OHhhhhh... you will farking keep :oi-grr:

[98tls]

OHhhhhh... you will farking keep :oi-grr:

:lol:Indeed,Another ride possibly,last time i tucked in behind you (up the lakes yonks ago) was after watching you leave the Waitaki dam carpark on one wheel and thought "heres a go" only to find though you were doing a good rate of knots any more speed was impossible due to the "safety cylinders" proximity to the ground,distinctly remember the old (very very old)TLS having a :killingmemoment,i told it to shuddup and reminded it the Guzzi has Ohlins forks and it should show some respect.

[dangerous]

:lol:Indeed,Another ride possibly,last time i tucked in behind you (up the lakes yonks ago) was after watching you leave the Waitaki dam carpark on one wheel and thought "heres a go" only to find though you were doing a good rate of knots any more speed was impossible due to the "safety cylinders" proximity to the ground,distinctly remember the old (very very old)TLS having a :killingmemoment,i told it to shuddup and reminded it the Guzzi has Ohlins forks and it should show some respect.
LOL... I dont think theres a single person on this forum that will believe you, and just as well considering the thread belongs to a copper :brick:

[98tls]

LOL... I dont think theres a single person on this forum that will believe you, and just as well considering the thread belongs to a copper :brick:

;)Fear not D hes busy on 75 (wherever the fuck that is).

[98tls]

LOL... I dont think theres a single person on this forum that will believe you, and just as well considering the thread belongs to a copper :brick:

Actually mate the most vivid memory i have of that ride is your Mrs right up my arse on the Buell:crazy:And i couldnt lose her...

[98tls]

Mind you, you were holding me up....:lol:

[scumdog]

:lol:Indeed,Another ride possibly,last time i tucked in behind you (up the lakes yonks ago) was after watching you leave the Waitaki dam carpark on one wheel and thought "heres a go" only to find though you were doing a good rate of knots any more speed was impossible due to the "safety cylinders" proximity to the ground,distinctly remember the old (very very old)TLS having a :killingmemoment,i told it to shuddup and reminded it the Guzzi has Ohlins forks and it should show some respect.

Yep, remember it well - I suspect it wasn't the only time that weekend that bike was on one wheel...:crazy:

I had to goose the T-Sport when D. was 100 metres behind be so it didn't look TOO bad as he caught up with me...

[98tls]

Yep, remember it well - I suspect it wasn't the only time that weekend that bike was on one wheel...:crazy:

I had to goose the T-Sport when D. was 100 metres behind be so it didn't look TOO bad as he caught up with me...

:clap:Few memories of that trip come to think of it,one of them being "if i had a white T-sport or anything else " i wouldnt have it being covered in bloody cherries:nono:;)

[Rashika]

Actually mate the most vivid memory i have of that ride is your Mrs right up my arse on the Buell:crazy:And i couldnt lose her...

Maybe u were holding me up sunshine :lol:
Yup was a great weekend that one

[scumdog]

:clap:Few memories of that trip come to think of it,one of them being "if i had a white T-sport or anything else " i wouldnt have it being covered in bloody cherries:nono:;)

Yeah Mike, a cherry-purple would have been a better choice of colour for that particular weekend...:crazy:

[98tls]

Maybe u were holding me up sunshine :lol:
Yup was a great weekend that one

Going back a bit,jeez time flys eh.Was up that way the other day on the TLS,sitting in the Otematata pub with a couple of mates and we got talking bikes (as you do) and i told em about "the chick on a Buell",laughed my head off when my mate,good bugger but has women issues shook his head and said "fuck that " i looked at him and "what" he says "the fucking world revolves around anything with a cunt,they used to spend all day in the kitchen these days they can cook/washup/lux make the bed after a shag and still go for a ride in the afternoon":killingmethen said "that poor bastard has to spend all afternoon worried about his one going past him on a motorcycle":lol:Sorry about the language R but its better related pretty much as it was.

[GrayWolf]

me nither... the day you stop learning is the day you die.



ya right... and ya must of missed earler posts... I believe it was a 5yr old sport tyre with 3800km on it on a cold day that was slightly over inflated that caused me to land on my arse.
riding technique... aceptable, a Tuono is hard to get wrong
road condition... cold but clean and in good nick
problem with the bike... na it was near new
explosive blow out... na


agreed

Nope The post I quoted specifically said, you had no idea WHY you binned.....

QUOTE " with an excess of 300,000k under my belt plus many racing hours a lot on street circuts and after 27 years I arsed up on 75 (except 1 incdent on the track and thats a story on its own LOL) I cant find a reason as to why I went down, was doing everything "right" what ever that is..

[Rashika]

Going back a bit,jeez time flys eh.Was up that way the other day on the TLS,sitting in the Otematata pub with a couple of mates and we got talking bikes (as you do) and i told em about "the chick on a Buell",laughed my head off when my mate,good bugger but has women issues shook his head and said "fuck that " i looked at him and "what" he says "the fucking world revolves around anything with a cunt,they used to spend all day in the kitchen these days they can cook/washup/lux make the bed after a shag and still go for a ride in the afternoon":killingmethen said "that poor bastard has to spend all afternoon worried about his one going past him on a motorcycle":lol:Sorry about the language R but its better related pretty much as it was.

:laugh: fat chance of that ever happening! On the road at least...
Though i did actually do it once... At the track, on the bucket, battle of the buckets, with a very very tiny Victorious on board ( i was later to find out)

[dangerous]

Nope The post I quoted specifically said, you had no idea WHY you binned.....

QUOTE " with an excess of 300,000k under my belt plus many racing hours a lot on street circuts and after 27 years I arsed up on 75 (except 1 incdent on the track and thats a story on its own LOL) I cant find a reason as to why I went down, was doing everything "right" what ever that is..
fuck you are a picky nit, I am awear of what I typed... some say my thoughts are just an excuse for fucking up, may be they are right, but topic related nothing the fuzz are doing could have prevented it.

[GrayWolf]

fuck you are a picky nit, I am awear of what I typed... some say my thoughts are just an excuse for fucking up, may be they are right, but topic related nothing the fuzz are doing could have prevented it.

Wrong, if they took ya licence? that 'legally' would prevent it happening :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[dangerous]

Rastas, still dont think you have answered me as below? if you dont want to or cant say so, Im just interested to know having lost mine in the past and still driven (cut down to the nessary) eg: if it was C Id nail there arse to the wall but if D and there were no other issues Id give a warning and a grilling about insurance etc... but Im not you.


Turned out to have no motorcycle Licence
the fact that he had no Licence
Mr No Headlight had no Licence either.




So, I know I have asked this before cos it aint the first time you have grabed several licenceless riders, what is the main reason
A, lost due to excess of demerits
B, a one time only exceeding 40k over
C, drink driving
D, never had a licence
E, other reason

[rossirep]

had a primo ride over to Akaroa today awesome weather and sticky roads and not to many douche bags on the road and only
seen 1 bike cop and luckily i was being a good boy and taking it easy heading towards lil river.. gotta love days like today.. ;-)

[onearmedbandit]

Day off today. Going for a ride. But not near SH75. No sense poking the bear.

[rastuscat]

Rastas, still dont think you have answered me as below? if you dont want to or cant say so, Im just interested to know having lost mine in the past and still driven (cut down to the nessary) eg: if it was C Id nail there arse to the wall but if D and there were no other issues Id give a warning and a grilling about insurance etc... but Im not you.

So, I know I have asked this before cos it aint the first time you have grabed several licenceless riders, what is the main reason
A, lost due to excess of demerits
B, a one time only exceeding 40k over
C, drink driving
D, never had a licence
E, other reason

Sorry dude.

Most folk who ride bikes without a bike licence do so coz they haven't taken the time to get one. We write the ticket, and give them time to get the licence. If they do, we cancel the fine.

Nothing exciting about that. They just plain old can't be arsed. It's an excellent example of the problem with making it hard to get a licence. If it's perceived as too much trouble, people just won't bother.

Missed the question, sorry about the delay.

[Cammey]

Sorry dude.

Most folk who ride bikes without a bike licence do so coz they haven't taken the time to get one. We write the ticket, and give them time to get the licence. If they do, we cancel the fine..

Thats seems very very sensible. Safe drivers, safe roads, safe vehicles. Its always seemed silly to me to catch someone without a licence and then burden them with fines and demerits and disqualifications so they can't get one. Sort of seems counter productive to me. Good policing I think.

[Coldrider]

Thats seems very very sensible. Safe drivers, safe roads, safe vehicles. Its always seemed silly to me to catch someone without a licence and then burden them with fines and demerits and disqualifications so they can't get one. Sort of seems counter productive to me. Good policing I think.It also de-values those law abiding citizens who have taken the effort and time to get a valid licence.
Maybe it is a ploy to allow these citizens to commit greater crimes so the DNA database size can be increased.

[dangerous]

Sorry dude.

Most folk who ride bikes without a bike licence do so coz they haven't taken the time to get one. We write the ticket, and give them time to get the licence. If they do, we cancel the fine.

Nothing exciting about that. They just plain old can't be arsed. It's an excellent example of the problem with making it hard to get a licence. If it's perceived as too much trouble, people just won't bother.

Missed the question, sorry about the delay.

interesting... I would not have thought that the case even tho I know a few that have riden there intire life with no licence.
knowing 75 I would have thought it would have been suspended licence riders you poted, this the info I was after. :Police:

[rastuscat]

It also de-values those law abiding citizens who have taken the effort and time to get a valid licence.
Maybe it is a ploy to allow these citizens to commit greater crimes so the DNA database size can be increased.

Yeah, that's the problem with a compliance policy. If it becomes widely known, people won't bother to comply until they get caught.

On the other hand, if we didn't comply it, we'd be revenue collecting bastards.

Can't win.

[Subike]

Wished you had been on the Birdlings flat straight at about 3pm, A Nissan something, traveling so slow that even the vintage cars were all overtaking it, Talk about a road hazard! Behind the wheel was Steptoe, and in the passengers seat I swore I saw, Maggy Thatcher.

[dangerous]

Wished you had been on the Birdlings flat straight at about 3pm, A Nissan something, traveling so slow that even the vintage cars were all overtaking it, Talk about a road hazard! Behind the wheel was Steptoe, and in the passengers seat I swore I saw, Maggy Thatcher.well had you put your wee 250 ching chang ding dang into top ya might have left them behind and they would not a held up the rest :shifty:

[mulletman]

Wished you had been on the Birdlings flat straight at about 3pm, A Nissan something, traveling so slow that even the vintage cars were all overtaking it, Talk about a road hazard! Behind the wheel was Steptoe, and in the passengers seat I swore I saw, Maggy Thatcher.

Those vintage Bentleys (?) were pretty cool chugging away up the hill, saw us behind and pulled over enough to let us pass :niceone:.
Saw em again on the way back - nice .

Mental note tho, when a cruise ship is in the harbour there WILL be lots of buses to-ing and fro-ing
between Ch Ch and Akkas.

[Kickaha]

Those vintage Bentleys (?) were pretty cool chugging away up the hill, saw us behind and pulled over enough to let us pass :niceone:.
Saw em again on the way back - nice .

Saw a heap of them parked at the motel near the airport this morning, I thought Bentleys as soon as I saw them

[Oakie]

From the Press website today

A 67-year-old man is in a "comfortable" condition after a serious crash last night.

The motorcyclist was airlifted to Christchurch Hospital after crashing on the Christchurch-Akaroa Rd.

A police spokesman said the man came off the road and hit a fence near Duvauchelle just before 7.30pm.

He was conscious at the scene but was taken to hospital by the Westpac rescue helicopter.

A Christchurch Hospital spokeswoman confirmed this morning the man was now in a "comfortable condition"

Not one of ours I hope.

[merv]

Wished you had been on the Birdlings flat straight at about 3pm, A Nissan something, traveling so slow that even the vintage cars were all overtaking it, Talk about a road hazard! Behind the wheel was Steptoe, and in the passengers seat I swore I saw, Maggy Thatcher.

Wasn't Robert Taylor driving was it, Maggie is his girlfriend isn't she?

[rastuscat]

It's my duty weekend this weekend. I'll be out on 75 on Sat and Sun, and possibly Friday evening too.

Stop for a chat, unless I stop you for a chat. I will not be bringing my sympathy with me, so get ready to be fined if I catch youse doing unlawful stuff.

Donut vouchers always help........they won't get you off a ticket, but they always help. :Police:

[dangerous]

well.. ya wont be chatting to me, but a counter part might he did last time I rode to the Woodstock rally... thought he was so cool standing next to his cage with his remote in hand... mutter mutter :msn-wink:

[gloplg]

Donut vouchers always help........they won't get you off a ticket, but they always help. :Police:

Hey RC if you eat too many donuts you could wind up looking like Jellywrestler's avatar.

[rastuscat]

Op Mataki failed to live up to its' promise this weekend.

Both days I was out there, and the most exciting thing I came across was a small brown dog called Simon.

Wrote a few tickets, all for car drivers, but that's only coz they were the only ones I caught doing naughtiness.

Big ups to those who managed to enjoy the ride without going nuts.

A number of other events saw most riders in other places so numbers were down a little, but most of the riding I saw was within the rules, and largely safe as houses. I wasn't everywhere though, but on balance, I was stoked to have come away with not much paperwork.

See yaz out there on my next duty weekend. Next weekend and the one after are my troops weekends.

Raz

[dangerous]

hey so RC, who are the coppers that measure up shit after a serious acco? like I had one go a bit mental at me yesterday (jumping up n down waving his hands etc, I just thought the boys where some what friendly on the coast)
Ya come out of a 70k zone into a 100k and being on the coastthe fog line is the bush, I saw the hiddenish 100k sign, thankyou for visiting type sign but was focused on a work ute cutting a wee bit of the next leftie I compleatly missed a 30k sign (was told later there was one there down at ground level) straight after I saw the marked ute I saw a dayglo on the side of the road next to a trypod *enter the jumping up n down copper* thought it was just a surveyor happy to see me, round the corner was a marked police wagon 2 bikes and a bunch a people on the other side of the road...

I figgered it was a speed laser and I was traveling a bit fast for him to get me, but was informed a biker died there the day before and the people where painting a big white cross on the rock wall... opps, whell honestly his 30k sign should have been way better displayed and not under a 100k sign amoungest the bush and other signs, I was tuned on the bend... spose I proved to the copper who now I relise was a surveyor working for the goverment that the corner can be taken at the speed limit with out issues :facepalm:

[Rashika]

So after having done a few kms this weekend to woodstock rally via lewis, westport and coast i was actually impressed with the cops... But especially this morning, when they lined up and breath tested everyone leaving the rally site. You were able to go up to the gate before you even had your gears on and have your test and got a tick if all clear. Those that failed could go back and sleep it off without any issues, and the rest of us could leave knowing we were all fine. WHY dont the cops do a bit more of this proactive stuff? Maybe they do and i havent seen it yet?

[Dave-]

So after having done a few kms this weekend to woodstock rally via lewis, westport and coast i was actually impressed with the cops... But especially this morning, when they lined up and breath tested everyone leaving the rally site. You were able to go up to the gate before you even had your gears on and have your test and got a tick if all clear. Those that failed could go back and sleep it off without any issues, and the rest of us could leave knowing we were all fine. WHY dont the cops do a bit more of this proactive stuff? Maybe they do and i havent seen it yet?

Heard of it before.

we were once waiting outside Riwaka hotel after a Shapeshifter concert and the cops were walking around breath testing folk who asked for it.

Believe it or not but the cops don't actually want to ticket you for drink driving.

[dangerous]

Heard of it before.

we were once waiting outside Riwaka hotel after a Shapeshifter concert and the cops were walking around breath testing folk who asked for it.

Believe it or not but the cops don't actually want to ticket you for drink driving.dont know so much about that, usually at a rally they are just up the road, by then ya on the bike and screwed, however this time just up the road was a speed trap... more money to be made from that I spose.

[Rashika]

dont know so much about that, usually at a rally they are just up the road, by then ya on the bike and screwed, however this time just up the road was a speed trap... more money to be made from that I spose.

yes this is more like it... its not often they will test you prior to being in/on a vehicle, but its a much better use of everyones resources, and I am all for it (so was everyone I spoke to about it).

[Scuba_Steve]

dont know so much about that, usually at a rally they are just up the road, by then ya on the bike and screwed, however this time just up the road was a speed trap... more money to be made from that I spose.


yes this is more like it... its not often they will test you prior to being in/on a vehicle, but its a much better use of everyones resources, and I am all for it (so was everyone I spoke to about it).

yep up the road is the usual approach. We've even been rejected for a test before when we walked up the road to get a pre-test, They just outright blatantly refused to test until we were in control of a vehicle.
It's that sorta thing that can take a perfectly acceptable & reasonable law & turn it into a scam.
Allowing people to test themselves before controlling a vehicle is always the better, safer way to do things & it's the way things should be done.

[Dave-]

yep up the road is the usual approach. We've even been rejected for a test before when we walked up the road to get a pre-test, They just outright blatantly refused to test until we were in control of a vehicle.
It's that sorta thing that can take a perfectly acceptable & reasonable law & turn it into a scam.
Allowing people to test themselves before controlling a vehicle is always the better, safer way to do things & it's the way things should be done.

So the cops wanted you to drink drive? which contradicts all their advertising? sounds like a terrible business model to me.

Smells like bovine faecal matter.

[oneofsix]

So the cops wanted you to drink drive? which contradicts all their advertising? sounds like a terrible business model to me.

Smells like bovine faecal matter.

As a business model, remembering that business is about making money and not giving away service for free, it makes sense. However you are correct in that general preferred perception is that they are meant to be trying to save lives and prevent drink driving. The idea that they will only check if they can then arrest on failure runs against what the public would like to think they have empowered them to do.

[rastuscat]

hey so RC, who are the coppers that measure up shit after a serious acco? like I had one go a bit mental at me yesterday (jumping up n down waving his hands etc, I just thought the boys where some what friendly on the coast)
Ya come out of a 70k zone into a 100k and being on the coastthe fog line is the bush, I saw the hiddenish 100k sign, thankyou for visiting type sign but was focused on a work ute cutting a wee bit of the next leftie I compleatly missed a 30k sign (was told later there was one there down at ground level) straight after I saw the marked ute I saw a dayglo on the side of the road next to a trypod *enter the jumping up n down copper* thought it was just a surveyor happy to see me, round the corner was a marked police wagon 2 bikes and a bunch a people on the other side of the road...

I figgered it was a speed laser and I was traveling a bit fast for him to get me, but was informed a biker died there the day before and the people where painting a big white cross on the rock wall... opps, whell honestly his 30k sign should have been way better displayed and not under a 100k sign amoungest the bush and other signs, I was tuned on the bend... spose I proved to the copper who now I relise was a surveyor working for the goverment that the corner can be taken at the speed limit with out issues :facepalm:

Serious Crash Unit.

[willytheekid]

As a business model, remembering that business is about making money and not giving away service for free, it makes sense. However you are correct in that general preferred perception is that they are meant to be trying to save lives and prevent drink driving. The idea that they will only check if they can then arrest on failure runs against what the public would like to think they have empowered them to do.

Yup! :yes:...when your 200 million in the shit* due to the Govn't crushing your funding and recruitment (why the F..K??)...the business in question DOES tend to focus on the bottom line!
Hence when they pull in extra staff etc to monitor bike rally's, they do tend to make an effort to justify the extra expendature...and rightly so (besides, If you don't want to "donate"...don't break any laws...its that simple really)

But if they are refusing to breath test "worried" riders before they actually ride (those who have drunk the night before and are concerned about there safety and legality the next morning)...well thats just wrong!...and to a degree, its a form of entrapment! (but once again, there is a process for voicing your concerns if you see this happening...use it!...cos if there doing that sort of shit...thats just pure bullshit!, and it needs to be stopped)

*http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/118426/police-union-president-warns-of-budget-freeze-risk

[GrayWolf]

yep up the road is the usual approach. We've even been rejected for a test before when we walked up the road to get a pre-test, They just outright blatantly refused to test until we were in control of a vehicle.
It's that sorta thing that can take a perfectly acceptable & reasonable law & turn it into a scam.
Allowing people to test themselves before controlling a vehicle is always the better, safer way to do things & it's the way things should be done.

here's an Amazing thought, Personal responsibility.....
Yes you too can do this, it only takes a small amount of forethought, and what's more ANYONE can do this absolutely amazing thing.....

1) dont drink and drive

2) if you do drink? Make sure you ARE well below the amounts that 'might' put you above a test..... there is plenty of literature and information out there as to time it takes to digest/absorb/excrete alcohol from the system. As well as the amount of standard units that can be safely consumed over an evening/day.

3) yes you too can purchase a PERSONAL breath tester... either a one use balloon, or an electronic one.......

But wait, there's more..........

There is an AMAZING Govt organisation that will do this for you, just 'Drink, dont think... and when they meet you, they will inform you as to whether you 'got it right' or didnt.... But of course there is a small downside to this AMAZING system... a 'user pays' fee is deemed appropriate!

[brp]

Its a form of entrapment! [/url]

Its not an automatic duty of tax payers to have to foot the bill for police time to do
pre-checks - buy your own breathalyzer or sleep it off

[oneofsix]

Its not an automatic duty of tax payers to have to foot the bill for police time to do
pre-checks - buy your own breathalyzer or sleep it off

Hold up. Tax payers are footing the bill for police time to make the roads safer, pre-checks of people volunteering is a better and more efficient way to achieve this and more co-operative.

[willytheekid]

Its not an automatic duty of tax payers to have to foot the bill for police time to do
pre-checks - buy your own breathalyzer or sleep it off


AHHHH....The Popo are there already (and there budgets been done!), and they are there with the intent of testing everyone leaving anyway...the focus is "mean't" to be on road safety!...so why would they then "refuse" to test concerned riders, who are making an effort to ensure they are not over the limit the next morning/afternoon.

Yes...You can sleep it off...and then HOPE your actually under...you can also buy a breathalyzer of varying accuracy($$$ NOT cheap for a good one), and once again HOPE your under...OR!...you could just walk up to the friendly popo and make a sensible request to ensure your safe to ride and under the limit set by there testing standards...now thats certainly not going to break the budget!, and its actually going to ensure safe & legal riding, and its also helping to ensure the safety of other road users.(not to mention give the popo a chance to talk to people at the rally)



ps: for the record...I don't really drink anymore...and I gave up on rallys many many years ago due to the rediculas amounts of accidents and idiots necessitating the need for heavy popo attention...nowdays a rally, to me, just equates to a ride that is constantly interupted by check points, repeat scrutiny and learner riders trying to kill you with there "enthusiasm" for the ride (Showing off!)...but I do still understand the allure :yes:

[brp]

Yeah obviously valid points !

I'm for user pays and self responsibility - yah know yah going to be riding your bike the next day so have some self control
or find an alternative so you can get plastered at the rally as you watch some bee stings in a wet t shirt or throw
a possum

But yes if the alternative has to be folk lining up like a bunch of primary school kids for a blow - bring it on - many will already be riding down the
road cause they know they are well under the limit cause they can remember how much they drunk last night.

Bike rally organisers could provide a decent breathalyser with the $ taken in year after year ....

Yeah police time already paid for but could be put to far better use down the road on the road

[oneofsix]

Yeah obviously valid points !

I'm for user pays and self responsibility - yah know yah going to be riding your bike the next day so have some self control
or find an alternative so you can get plastered at the rally as you watch some bee stings in a wet t shirt or throw
a possum

But yes if the alternative has to be folk lining up like a bunch of primary school kids for a blow - bring it on - many will already be riding down the
road cause they know they are well under the limit cause they can remember how much they drunk last night.

Bike rally organisers could provide a decent breathalyser with the $ taken in year after year ....

Yeah police time already paid for but could be put to far better use down the road on the road

Who's the user? The drunk would argue that they were the victim, it is the other "innocent" road users that are the users of the police testing and if it keeps the drunk off the road in the first place, prevention rather than cure, then all the better.

[GrayWolf]

AHHHH....The Popo are there already (and there budgets been done!), and they are there with the intent of testing everyone leaving anyway...the focus is "mean't" to be on road safety!...so why would they then "refuse" to test concerned riders, who are making an effort to ensure they are not over the limit the next morning/afternoon.

Yes...You can sleep it off...and then HOPE your actually under...you can also buy a breathalyzer of varying accuracy($$$ NOT cheap for a good one), and once again HOPE your under...OR!...you could just walk up to the friendly popo and make a sensible request to ensure your safe to ride and under the limit set by there testing standards...now thats certainly not going to break the budget!, and its actually going to ensure safe & legal riding, and its also helping to ensure the safety of other road users.(not to mention give the popo a chance to talk to people at the rally)



ps: for the record...I don't really drink anymore...and I gave up on rallys many many years ago due to the rediculas amounts of accidents and idiots necessitating the need for heavy popo attention...nowdays a rally, to me, just equates to a ride that is constantly interupted by check points, repeat scrutiny and learner riders trying to kill you with there "enthusiasm" for the ride (Showing off!)...but I do still understand the allure :yes:


The above is also EXACTLY why I cant be bothered with Rallies any more... And I did them in the UK, Kent Custom, Magna Carta,(MAG), Rockers Re-union runs etc....
The average 'rally' I tried here was just an excuse to get pissed up, and ride 'enthusiastically' to and from.... :angry:

Nuff said Willy!!! :drinknsin

[dangerous]

ps: I gave up on rallys many many years ago due to the rediculas amounts of accidents and idiots necessitating the need for heavy popo attention...nowdays a rally, to me, just equates to a ride that is constantly interupted by check points, repeat scrutiny and learner riders trying to kill you with there "enthusiasm" for the ride (Showing off!)...but I do still understand the allure :yes: ohhh come on man... fuck after an excess of 100 rally's I have no idea where you get this notion from???
accos... far n few
popo's only in the last couple a years and only the bigest like the brass, hare etc
6-800k last weekend and no check points
cant say any rider least a learner has ever tried to kill me (was a harley that tried to keep me once, he gave up as did the CBR last weekend, out ride em or let em past, up to you)

ps, meet horis on ya old guzzi


The above is also EXACTLY why I cant be bothered with Rallies any more... And I did them in the UK, Kent Custom, Magna Carta,(MAG), Rockers Re-union runs etc....
The average 'rally' I tried here was just an excuse to get pissed up, and ride 'enthusiastically' to and from.... :angry:

Nuff said Willy!!! :drinknsinever been to a southern rally?
Me thinks you keep the wrong company... as above and whats wrong with a beer, chat, catch up, bike talk, tits... you to tence man and lifes to fucking short

[mulletman]

Gotta agree with with 'D' , your riding in the wrong Island....:doh:

[Dave-]

hey so RC, who are the coppers that measure up shit after a serious acco? like I had one go a bit mental at me yesterday (jumping up n down waving his hands etc, I just thought the boys where some what friendly on the coast)
Ya come out of a 70k zone into a 100k and being on the coastthe fog line is the bush, I saw the hiddenish 100k sign, thankyou for visiting type sign but was focused on a work ute cutting a wee bit of the next leftie I compleatly missed a 30k sign (was told later there was one there down at ground level) straight after I saw the marked ute I saw a dayglo on the side of the road next to a trypod *enter the jumping up n down copper* thought it was just a surveyor happy to see me, round the corner was a marked police wagon 2 bikes and a bunch a people on the other side of the road...

I figgered it was a speed laser and I was traveling a bit fast for him to get me, but was informed a biker died there the day before and the people where painting a big white cross on the rock wall... opps, whell honestly his 30k sign should have been way better displayed and not under a 100k sign amoungest the bush and other signs, I was tuned on the bend... spose I proved to the copper who now I relise was a surveyor working for the goverment that the corner can be taken at the speed limit with out issues :facepalm:

If you read their literature you'll find posting straight to a 30 in a 100 is illegal.

This is a common one people don't know about and happens from time to time, I'll see what I can dig up for you D :)

[Dave-]

If you read their literature you'll find posting straight to a 30 in a 100 is illegal.

This is a common one people don't know about and happens from time to time, I'll see what I can dig up for you D :)

"These limits can only be set if the calculated speed limit for the road is 50 km/h and appropriate and safe traffic engineering techniques are applied to ensure that the mean operating speed of motorised traffic is kept to within 5 km/h of the speed limit."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/speed-limits/speed-limits-nz/speed-limits-nz.html

Need to know more about the calculated speed limit.

Sounds like the calculated speed limit you were in was 100km/h D?

[Dave-]

"These limits can only be set if the calculated speed limit for the road is 50 km/h and appropriate and safe traffic engineering techniques are applied to ensure that the mean operating speed of motorised traffic is kept to within 5 km/h of the speed limit."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/speed-limits/speed-limits-nz/speed-limits-nz.html

Need to know more about the calculated speed limit.

Sounds like the calculated speed limit you were in was 100km/h D?

Nailed it

Speed limits less than 50 km/h

3.2(6) A road controlling authority may propose to set a speed limit of less than 50 km/h but, unless section 4 applies, may only set the proposed speed limit if:

(a) the calculated speed limit for the relevant road is 50 km/h; and
(b) the proposed speed limit would be likely to increase the safety of pedestrians, cyclists or other road users; and
(c) safe and appropriate traffic engineering measures are installed so that the measured mean operating speed is within 5 km/h of the proposed speed limit.

source: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/setting-speed-limits-2003.html#32

From what I can tell there have been many amendments to this, but none pertaining to the setting of speed limits less than 50kph.

If he ticketed you D, you should send him a letter asking him to please review the above.

This should also be a lesson to anyone else here if they get snapped, know your law!

[Berries]

Nailed it.
Erm, not quite. The post would suggest that the 30km/h speed limit was temporary while they painted a cross on the road. Have a read of COPTTM and I am sure you will find that most temporary 30km/h speed limits are not set out in accordance with the legislation, but you are barking up the wrong tree with your calculated speed limit bit, that is for permanent speed limits. Having said that, most permanent 30km/h speed limits that I have seen are bullshit when it comes to the Rule that you quoted.

[Dave-]

Erm, not quite. The post would suggest that the 30km/h speed limit was temporary while they painted a cross on the road. Have a read of COPTTM and I am sure you will find that most temporary 30km/h speed limits are not set out in accordance with the legislation, but you are barking up the wrong tree with your calculated speed limit bit, that is for permanent speed limits. Having said that, most permanent 30km/h speed limits that I have seen are bullshit when it comes to the Rule that you quoted.

ohh yep, I thought that was too easy.

It's buried in the law somewhere...

setting a 30 in a 100 is stupid and dangerous either way.

[GrayWolf]

Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
The above is also EXACTLY why I cant be bothered with Rallies any more... And I did them in the UK, Kent Custom, Magna Carta,(MAG), Rockers Re-union runs etc....
The average 'rally' I tried here was just an excuse to get pissed up, and ride 'enthusiastically' to and from....

Nuff said Willy!!!





ever been to a southern rally?
Me thinks you keep the wrong company... as above and whats wrong with a beer, chat, catch up, bike talk, tits... you to tence man and lifes to fucking short

I used to live down South thanks... experience? 'Club' monthly ride.... 'gumboot... stop at pub Riverton, stop at pub tuatapere, stop at pub Te Anau, etc etc.....

My preference?? up 8am Sunday, ride to Te Anau, fill up, coffee at Milford, out across central, then home via SH1 or the back route(s) I did 3 rallies down South, all of then were patronised in the main, by heavy drinking, then ride home next day!! And that was 15-20 yrs ago.
I aint 'too tense man'..... if I want to drink I'll do it at the right time. Youi're right life is too short to waste it drinking, when I can be out riding!
Here's a thought for Ya, instead of waiting for rallies to have a destination...load up the pannier(s) and bugger off for the weekend with no real destination in mind.

[dangerous]

I used to live down South thanks... experience? 'Club' monthly ride.... 'gumboot... stop at pub Riverton, stop at pub tuatapere, stop at pub Te Anau, etc etc.....

My preference?? up 8am Sunday, ride to Te Anau, fill up, coffee at Milford, out across central, then home via SH1 or the back route(s) I did 3 rallies down South, all of then were patronised in the main, by heavy drinking, then ride home next day!! And that was 15-20 yrs ago.
I aint 'too tense man'..... if I want to drink I'll do it at the right time. Youi're right life is too short to waste it drinking, when I can be out riding!
Here's a thought for Ya, instead of waiting for rallies to have a destination...load up the pannier(s) and bugger off for the weekend with no real destination in mind.Good post... like any event theres allways one dick head or two, sometimes people need to get pissed to help with day to day life, I didnt have in the past tho, and I cant just bolt for the weekend with two under 4yr olds... pre them tho sure did, I partly live for the bike rallys, a chance to meet mates ya havent seen for a long while, chance for a mint ride, a chance to relax and chill to a cold drink, live music and hopfully sun shine... and Im sure you will find 99% are the same, the other 1% I dont let bother me, not for all and thats just fine by me.

[scumdog]

I partly live for the bike rallys, a chance to meet mates ya havent seen for a long while, chance for a mint ride, a chance to relax and chill to a cold drink, live music and hopfully sun shine... and Im sure you will find 99% are the same, the other 1% I dont let bother me, not for all and thats just fine by me.

Like D I 'live' for rallies -we have so many to choose from down here - and heaps of mates to meet up with at each one.:2thumbsup.

And then there's the one or half-day rides with mrs S.D :love:to Central Otago, down the Catlins Scenic Route etc - or even a short burst down to Kaka Point for a coffee (or a handle beer on a hot day) if we haven't much time.

[Subike]

Rallys for me are the chance tpo expand the group of friends I have made since changing direction in my life.
The rides too and from are sometime a challenge, depending upon the rally location.
But that does not stop me just getting on my scooter and heading out in any direction, just for the enjoyment of the ride.
The old days of the heavy drinking tosser type rally that I remember has mellowed significantly over the years, and each year they are better.
Cant remember a rally in the past 7 years where there has been fight, or an arrest....bugger, that a whole heap of dangerous foot loose careless people gathered in one place....

[Rashika]

Erm, not quite. The post would suggest that the 30km/h speed limit was temporary while they painted a cross on the road. Have a read of COPTTM and I am sure you will find that most temporary 30km/h speed limits are not set out in accordance with the legislation, but you are barking up the wrong tree with your calculated speed limit bit, that is for permanent speed limits. Having said that, most permanent 30km/h speed limits that I have seen are bullshit when it comes to the Rule that you quoted.

it wasn't a temp 30kmh sign... I think thats why I looked a couple of times before it made sense, and naturally slowed cos I dont like uncertainty on the road. the cop could easily have covered the open road sign (which was about 10 metres in front of the 30) and put the 30kmh sign just before it then it would have been a 70 to 30 change, much more logical especially as the sign was on a corner and you couldnt see around it.

as for the "rallys are just piss drink times", yeap for some that is the case, just like the normal population going to a party... it is a party for feks sake! Corse people are gonna drink and playup, but it is contained and usually safe and no-one has to drive/ride home until the next day. I feel a damn sight safer at a bike rally than I would do at a non biker party of the same size.
And for those of us who have NEVER been breathalised it is good to get a guide of what are safe limits to drink and then be ok to drive/ride the next day. Sure you can drink nothing, but as far as I am concerned life is too short to say no to everything all the time.

[GrayWolf]

Rallys for me are the chance tpo expand the group of friends I have made since changing direction in my life.
The rides too and from are sometime a challenge, depending upon the rally location.
But that does not stop me just getting on my scooter and heading out in any direction, just for the enjoyment of the ride.
The old days of the heavy drinking tosser type rally that I remember has mellowed significantly over the years, and each year they are better.
Cant remember a rally in the past 7 years where there has been fight, or an arrest....bugger, that a whole heap of dangerous foot loose careless people gathered in one place....

Fair comment and point fully conceded, as I said my rally experience was 15+ yrs ago. So maybe I was still in the 'death throes' of the beer swilling ones. recent partner? HA!! Go to a rally or a weekend jaunt? Only if there's a Hotel or at minimum a Motel booked, camping 'not an option' for her!

[Rashika]

Fair comment and point fully conceded, as I said my rally experience was 15+ yrs ago. So maybe I was still in the 'death throes' of the beer swilling ones. recent partner? HA!! Go to a rally or a weekend jaunt? Only if there's a Hotel or at minimum a Motel booked, camping 'not an option' for her!

she just does not know what she is missing out on :laugh:

[scumdog]

she just does not know what she is missing out on :laugh:

Damn tootin' right girl!:Punk:

On my way to ANOTHER rally tomorrow - who knows who I'll meet - but I bet I'll be drinking with them and socialising with a bunch of like-minded mates from all over the country that I've met a dozens of other rallies.

A few drinks, some gas-bagging - and all the worlds problems are solved!

[SMOKEU]

A few drinks, some gas-bagging - and all the worlds problems are solved!

Isn't that exactly the thing that starts many problems?

[scumdog]

Isn't that exactly the thing that starts many problems?

"Alcamohol - the cause of - and the answer to all of lifes problems."

Homer J. Simpson, 2008.

But not at a motorbike rally - have you been to any/many?

[wasiler]

Isn't that exactly the thing that starts many problems?

http://youtu.be/hUVwR0rw5fk

[SMOKEU]

But not at a motorbike rally - have you been to any/many?

I've never had the chance to go to one, as it's always too far to ride my push bike over there.

[Coolz]

I hate you South Islanders. You've got the best roads. Your cops are all reasonable and understanding. Now I'm hearing about all these great rallies....Bastards!

[Subike]

I hate you South Islanders. You've got the best roads. Your cops are all reasonable and understanding. Now I'm hearing about all these great rallies....Bastards!

Hey there is no locked gate at the wellington warff for you northern bikers,
Get on ya bloody scooter, toss a tent and a bag on the back, fill the tank and come and join us...

[Scuba_Steve]

Hey there is no locked gate at the wellington warff for you northern bikers,
Get on ya bloody scooter, toss a tent and a bag on the back, fill the tank and come and join us...

Haven't been up here in awhile ay??? there's a locked gate it's got a boat behind it sometimes, they charge money to open it :innocent:

[dangerous]

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Hey there is no locked gate at the wellington warff for you northern bikers,
Get on ya bloody scooter, toss a tent and a bag on the back, fill the tank and come and join us...SHUT UP you oll bugger... we do not need our roads cluttered with imports from another island...


there's a locked gate it's got a boat behind it sometimes, they charge money to open it :innocent:LOL, I know that gate, and if that sometimes boat aint there and the gates open one does not want to be riding on through, would make a good birdman ramp tho...

At this point in the thread Id just like to say sorry to RC for taking the thread off topic, I never intended this to happen with one rally comment LOL (love KB) so... as it is once again the 'weekend' its back to SH75 not that Ill be there (well I might on another bike) and Scum Dog, no Vincent County for me this weekend, bike has a wee Iti electrical issue...

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[Bison]

I hate you South Islanders. You've got the best roads. Your cops are all reasonable and understanding. Now I'm hearing about all these great rallies....Bastards!



Yah..they have to have something to compensate for the bad weather and gravel beaches. :)

[Akzle]

Yah..they have to have something to compensate for the bad weather and gravel beaches. :)

there is no bad weather

[russd7]

Yah..they have to have something to compensate for the bad weather and gravel beaches. :)

what bad weather, its beautiful and sunny outside at moment:Punk:

[Ocean1]

there is no bad weather

... just inappropriate clothing. (anon)

[jim.cox]

... just inappropriate clothing. (anon)

not anon, but Billy Connolly aka "the Big Yin"

[rastuscat]

what bad weather, its beautiful and sunny outside at moment:Punk:

Bollocks. You live in Thornbury, don't lie to us.

Donuts

[russd7]

Bollocks. You live in Thornbury, don't lie to us.

Donuts

you just keep believing that, the less people down here the less traffic on the roads :cool:
don't need none o them radar guns down here:nono:

[scumdog]

there is no bad weather

Damn straight!

Just home form the Ghost to Gold run, nary a drop of rain, warm temps, geat scenery and empty roads!!!:Punk:

[scumdog]

[ as it is once again the 'weekend' its back to SH75 not that Ill be there (well I might on another bike) and Scum Dog, no Vincent County for me this weekend, bike has a wee Iti electrical issue...

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An Eye-talyan bike with 'lectric issues? Get out of here, ya gotta be kidding!:whistle:

[dangerous]

An Eye-talyan bike with 'lectric issues? Get out of here, ya gotta be kidding!:whistle:well my starter motor has more horse power than you motor... what ya gota say bout that then :2thumbsup

[scumdog]

well my starter motor has more horse power than you motor... what ya gota say bout that then :2thumbsup
Well! MY motor got my bike to cover 350km+ since yesterday morning, :bleh:fine weather, beaut scenery and a good bunch to ride with!:scooter:
My first ride since the $6,000.000 knees - and they made the riding a lot less painful! :niceone:

[Kickaha]

My first ride since the $6,000.000 knees - and they made the riding a lot less painful! :niceone:
Oh fuck they're making him Bionic

[dangerous]

Well! MY motor got my bike to cover 350km+ since yesterday morningyeah... 300 of them k's on the back of a ute :Punk:

[scumdog]

yeah... 300 of them k's on the back of a ute :Punk:


Aw c'mon ya ding-a-ling, Italy is one place that DOESN'T make Harleys!:bleh: (well not since them Aermachi 2-smokers of the 70's - and they conked out easy...)

[rastuscat]

you just keep believing that, the less people down here the less traffic on the roads :cool:
don't need none o them radar guns down here:nono:

I fished near the Thornbury bridge when I was a munchkin.

I'll be riding my R1200RT through Thornbury while escorting the cycle Tour of Southland in a couple of weeks time. Not my work one, my personal one. I'll keep an eye out for ya.

Da Cat.

[russd7]

I fished near the Thornbury bridge when I was a munchkin.

I'll be riding my R1200RT through Thornbury while escorting the cycle Tour of Southland in a couple of weeks time. Not my work one, my personal one. I'll keep an eye out for ya.

Da Cat.

yup, what day they doin the southern coast, i work in riverton, might have to go out and set road block on the bridge :laugh:

[Bison]

I fished near the Thornbury bridge when I was a munchkin.

I'll be riding my R1200RT through Thornbury while escorting the cycle Tour of Southland in a couple of weeks time. Not my work one, my personal one. I'll keep an eye out for ya.

Da Cat.


Be safe as you do a great thing for a worthy cause. I spent 12 years escorting an annual 1000 km 14 day cycle tour here as they raised money for childrens cancer research and a summer camp. Watch out for the drivers who are not paying attention. I had several close calls every tour. They may not deliberatetly be out to get you, but it hurts just the same.

[rastuscat]

http://www.tourofsouthland.com/index.php?pageLoad=67

I'm on a silver 1200RT wearing a neon yellow helmet. Throw donuts, not eggs.

[Coldrider]

When the cat's away......

[caseye]

Splod'ing dougies alright there Rastus?

[Hawk]

When the cat's away......

problem, there's more than one cat in that pride

[Stylo]

Any update on the accident on SH75 near Kaituna on Sunday 10th in the early afternoon ?

The Newspaper only gave an outline of what occurred, 3 people and 2 bikes and serious injuries to everyone involved.

[pouakai]

Shit! That's bad news.
Seems we missed it by minutes...
Was a very busy day on 75 and in the harbour.
P

[rastuscat]

Any update on the accident on SH75 near Kaituna on Sunday 10th in the early afternoon ?

The Newspaper only gave an outline of what occurred, 3 people and 2 bikes and serious injuries to everyone involved.

Shit. I got back to work today after a few days off. Didn't hear any talk of a crash out there.

Will check tomorrow.

[Stylo]

Page A3 of the Press, Monday 11 th, ' Three people were taken to Christchurch Hospital with serious injuries after two motorcycles collided on State Highway 75 near Kaituna, St John Ambulance said'

Hope they're ok, be nice to have some more detail

[dangerous]

ok you bunch a nosie buggers LOL... all I know is it 'could' have been a head on, off road style a bike limited gears being worn and they were hiding the injured behind a blanket... maybe 'asume' it was a bit messy.

[EJK]

I too was riding SH75 between 12pm-3pm that Sunday. Didn't see any crash but hope the riders are ok.

[SVboy]

Non biking work colleages talk of multiple police cars and road closures-around 5.00pmish? etc-sounded bad.

[Bison]

Spounds like a fatal when they shield the injured and multiple Police responders. Hope not.:nono:

[jonnyk5614]

Infringements count up to 50 over. Beyond that, they have to be dealt with by way of Traffic Offence Notice, or TON.

Section 118 of the LTA requires the registered person (RP) to supply the riders details, or information that could lead to the riders identification. It's not enough to just say sorry Popo, I don't know his name.

Tickets can be posted to the RP for speed camera offences up to 50 over, and red light offences. Parking offences too, and reg and WoF type offences, but those are called Stationary Vehicle Infringement Notices, or SVIONs.

The processes are very specific, but people often confuse the systems. If I had a donut for every time someone makes a complaint to me and just wants me to post out an ION, I'd be a lardy arse Popo who wouldn't fit on a bike. Matters not able to be dealt with by SVIONs and approved vehicle surveillance equipment (speed cams, red light cams, and in some towns bus lane cams), have to be dealt with by Section 118. It's a pain in the arse, and often they just get ignored due to the low chance of finding the offender.

In the real world, it can also depend on how busy the Popos are. Hit and miss at times.

So what is the process if our 178 friend had legged it?

Traffic Offence Notice?

To be honest, can you even read a plate going by at 180?

[jonnyk5614]

It goes without saying that we would all prefer a warning than a ticket. But a warning lasts for what? Until the next bend when they are out of sight? Until the day after? Demerits last for two years and if you are siting on 80 of them you must be thinking a bit more about your speed than if you got a finger wagging a few weeks earlier. Unluckily for you you are in a no win situation.

I guess the question is, although those five guys think you are a good bastard, did their speeds change after having a chat? I doubt it, in fact they probably now think that the tolerance has increased to whatever speed you got them at.

I've had more "chats" than tickets.

Every time, chat or ticket, I've taken it as a wake-up call and noticed that I've started getting a bit dumb.

Keeps me in self check for another 6 months or so....