FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

[scrivy]

I remember you were talking on other threads about chain pull geometry. Looking at that you've either got a deeper than std sump so have had to raise the motor - in which case I can see why you've done it - or you've simply built the longest short bike known to man...

Wasn't it done to outrigger the drive due to his new wheels and disc setup?

[scrivy]

I think it's great feedback. Unlike a lot of other comments you get around this clown-show these are actually useful.

Lol.
If you don't like clown-show, then you seriously need to visit other threads..... :yes:

[Mental Trousers]

Lol.
If you don't like clown-show, then you seriously need to visit other threads..... :yes:

While the Sidecar community is certainly full of funny looking, entertaining characters the clown show I was referring to is the entire site. There's a reason I don't read 99% of what happens on this site, it's because my head hurts from too much :facepalm:

[Drew]

I see it's not o ring. The primary on my Norton appears similar quality & it seizes with only about 50hp going through it. Might be worth going to flash as chain, you will get three or four of those out of a standard bike chain.We've run this chain before, and it only gave issue when the axle slipped and the chain got jammed between the shock mount and sprocket. But we've got the big O ring critter we were using before, might get a master link for that and run it on the primary.


Don't be using no cheap industrial shit. That chain doesn't look particularly heavy duty...I'm with Bob...that setup is short lived. Good luck with that.It's well heavy duty, but I'll discuss with Al whether we should shell out for a bike one.


Poor cunt posts up his great work & every cunt pulls it to bits. We're only trying to make sure you don't fuck out bro.It's all goodly bro. No one is picking holes in the idea, I can handle helpful input.


+1....i also hope the layshaft bearing is the biggest fuck-off double row ball you could fit in. Is there enough room to enclose it and run it in oil ? It's gonna need a guard anyway.Running a couple 6008s in there, sealed. Light press fit, and we've got spares.


I remember you were talking on other threads about chain pull geometry. Looking at that you've either got a deeper than std sump so have had to raise the motor - in which case I can see why you've done it - or you've simply built the longest short bike known to man...You're onto it mate, the front sprocket was about two inches higher and four inches forward of the swingarm mount. There was no possible way to stop the torque from compressing the rear end. So the center is now 10-15mm lower than swingarm pivot point relative to a straight line from the axle center when full extended.


Wasn't it done to outrigger the drive due to his new wheels and disc setup?Nope, our front sprocket has been engineered and offset 14mm for the chain to clear the wheel before we got it. So I simply flipped it and Al made the lay shaft with two sprockets at 28mm centers. The new sprocket position at the wheel will be the same as it was, the disk will be mounted on the same side but outside the swingarm on a splined carrier.

[nodrog]

I'm glad I cant weld, otherwise I'd be chopping shit up every five mins too.

Aint nobody got time for that!

[Drew]

I'm glad I cant weld, otherwise I'd be chopping shit up every five mins too.

Aint nobody got time for that!
It's gotta be done. Our chair is pretty good for what it is, but it can be better.

Only down side is we haven't had time to do anything about the shabby appearance of it, so we're the ugly kids again this year.

Prolly should have spent more time on it in the off season.

[merv]

Mate you (and it) won't look ugly at all if you can win a few races. Cosmetics never won races, but engineering sure as hell does.

[scrivy]

Mate you (and it) won't look ugly at all if you can win a few races. Cosmetics never won races, but money sure as hell does.

Fixed that for ya.....:shifty::yes:

[merv]

Fixed that for ya.....:shifty::yes:

Lol, are you offering to sponsor the boys?

[nodrog]

It's gotta be done. Our chair is pretty good for what it is, but it can be better.

Only down side is we haven't had time to do anything about the shabby appearance of it, so we're the ugly kids again this year.

Prolly should have spent more time on it in the off season.

its not a fashion parade, matching uniforms and shit don't make you fast.

[Kickaha]

its not a fashion parade, matching uniforms and shit don't make you fast.
I wish some cunt had told me that before we bought our leathers

There's a reason I don't read 99% of what happens on this site, it's because my head hurts from too much :facepalm:
Fucking mods should do some work then

[scrivy]

Lol, are you offering to sponsor the boys?

LOL!

As Nodoggy says - flash shit don't make ya faster....
Alas, I ain't in a monetary position to help out.......:no::crybaby:

But.... I could lend them my awesomeness with tools at the track....... :shutup::facepalm:

Ok, so that would really be like helping the competition.......

I could supply them with beer...... but then I'd probably crash out in the dungeon....... and I heard that unspeakable acts happen in there.....
So again, a no win for anyone......

[jellywrestler]

But.... I could lend them my awesomeness by being a tool at the track....... :shutup::facepalm:



fixed it for ya.

[scrivy]

fixed it for ya.

You know me Spyda, I'm always a tool.......

[swarfie]

You know me Spyda, I'm always a tool.......

Or got your hand on one....:lol:

[jellywrestler]

Or got your hand on one....:lol:

fuck me Neville, here's me see you are the latest to post and keen to see your expert mechanical/engineering thoughts on this and you post this sort of shit.
keep it up man.

[Drew]

Flying back to Perth in the morning, here's hoping All doesn't run into any trouble getting the chair finished.

[swarfie]

fuck me Neville, here's me see you are the latest to post and keen to see your expert mechanical/engineering thoughts on this and you post this sort of shit.
keep it up man.

Nice to see you're up with the play there Spyda...read the last page...I posted that the short chain was probably short lived. Bob also made the same comment...nice to see two great minds think alike. I hope I'm proven wrong for Drew and Al's sake...but I can't help thinking they're gunna need that supply of chain to be a constant supply of chain.

[scrivy]

fuck me Neville, here's me see you are the latest to post and keen to see your expert mechanical/engineering thoughts on this and you post this sort of shit.
keep it up man.

Errr.... since when did sidecar threads have to be anal about technical stuff????

[nodrog]

I'm here.. ... somebody say anal?

[scrivy]

I'm here.. ... somebody say anal?

Yip. Spaz did...

[Mental Trousers]

There's a reason I don't read 99% of what happens on this site, it's because my head hurts from too much :facepalm:
Fucking mods should do some work then

The Mods can't fix stupid.

[Drew]

Nice to see you're up with the play there Spyda...read the last page...I posted that the short chain was probably short lived. Bob also made the same comment...nice to see two great minds think alike. I hope I'm proven wrong for Drew and Al's sake...but I can't help thinking they're gunna need that supply of chain to be a constant supply of chain.I'm gonna make the primary chain from the bike chain that was our old chain.

We'll use the chain pictured as our secondary still though I think.

[Drew]

Don't suppose anyone has a decent 7.2 20 13 slick lying around they don't need? Our chair tyre is a bit...erm...tired.

[Danger Dave]

I think i've got one at home you can have, i'll check tonight

[sidecar bob]

Don't suppose anyone has a decent 7.2 20 13 slick lying around they don't need? Our chair tyre is a bit...erm...tired.

Kornhole Rick got all our old stock, he didnt wear his tyres much at the last meeting. Hed be worth a try if Dave hasnt got one.

[Drew]

Thanks guys. Not the end of the world if we can't find one. Ours just has a slow leaking puncture that can't be fixed.

[Kickaha]

.I posted that the short chain was probably short lived. Bob also made the same comment...nice to see two great minds think alike.

I'm not so sure I'd go as far as considering the pair of you great minds

When I ran a 250 Superkart approx 80hp and running similar size sprockets but with a slightly longer chain run with an average grade of chain I went through one a meeting, we stepped it up to the top grade Tsubaki and it lasted 4 meetings

[swarfie]

I'm not so sure I'd go as far as considering the pair of you great minds

When I ran a 250 Superkart approx 80hp and running similar size sprockets but with a slightly longer chain run with an average grade of chain I went through one a meeting, we stepped it up to the top grade Tsubaki and it lasted 4 meetings

Before I built the belt drive set-up for the Matchless it used to eat a primary chain every meeting and they weren't cheap old Renolds chains either. Tsubaki or RK and we replaced them over the weekend of the Classic Festival two day meetings and they were longer than Drews set-up, although his probably won't get as hot as ours did.

[Drew]

Before I built the belt drive set-up for the Matchless it used to eat a primary chain every meeting and they weren't cheap old Renolds chains either. Tsubaki or RK and we replaced them over the weekend of the Classic Festival two day meetings and they were longer than Drews set-up, although his probably won't get as hot as ours did.

Ours also isn't spinning as fast as a crank driven primary. This is the output side of the gearbox remember.

[nodrog]

I'm not so sure I'd go as far as considering the pair of you great minds

When I ran a 250 Superkart approx 80hp and running similar size sprockets but with a slightly longer chain run with an average grade of chain I went through one a meeting, we stepped it up to the top grade Tsubaki and it lasted 4 meetings

The degradation of the chain is directly linked to the intake.




























The intake of pies!

[Danger Dave]

Don't suppose anyone has a decent 7.2 20 13 slick lying around they don't need? Our chair tyre is a bit...erm...tired.

Yep i got one, do you want me to courier it down or can you wait till the suzuki series at Hampton?

[Drew]

Yep i got one, do you want me to courier it down or can you wait till the suzuki series at Hampton?

That's awesome. If you can send it would be best. I'll get Beaurepairs Porirua address to ya in the morning.

Cheers bro.

[Grumph]

Ours also isn't spinning as fast as a crank driven primary. This is the output side of the gearbox remember.

yeah, and that means the torque load is higher....on the bonus side, the lube may stay on longer.....

[sidecar bob]

yeah, and that means the torque load is higher....on the bonus side, the lube may stay on longer.....

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in shit.

[scrivy]

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in shit.

But is he as happy?

[Grumph]

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in shit.

Too slippery to get a good grip ? Likely to bite ?

You should have tried arguing with my old man, just for practise he'd argue black was white...But when it came to engineering he didn't lose many, AMIMechE covers a lot of bases....

[Drew]

Right. Updates.

The Gixxer shock has been sprung for the job it has at the back, and the front shocks have had a service. Sits really nice bow and 5he damping adjustment has obvious actual effect.

Gotta extend the swingarm next, and I'm thinking about flagging chain adjusters. At the minute the bike is so fucken torquey that we haven't needed to change gearing. If we ever do though, so long as we do it in 2 tooth increments and change the chain we should be all good.

Please discuss if anyone still reads this.

[Ocean1]

Gotta extend the swingarm next, and I'm thinking about flagging chain adjusters.

Why? Is it more difficult to organise than usual?

Only, if you're changing swingarm length there's presumably handling benefits involved. Why not leave yourself the provision to change swingarm length to a lesser degree in order to fine tune that?

[nodrog]

Right. Updates.

The Gixxer shock has been sprung for the job it has at the back, and the front shocks have had a service. Sits really nice bow and 5he damping adjustment has obvious actual effect.

Gotta extend the swingarm next, and I'm thinking about flagging chain adjusters. At the minute the bike is so fucken torquey that we haven't needed to change gearing. If we ever do though, so long as we do it in 2 tooth increments and change the chain we should be all good.

Please discuss if anyone still reads this.

Extend the swingarm with a non adjustable axle, make the chain adjustment on the swing arm pivot. It could be as simple as a slot and block type arrangement (which is what I'm planning on using) like the chain adjustment on a road bike. Or you could get Alan to use his engineering skills and make up an eccentric adjuster.

[Drew]

Why? Is it more difficult to organise than usual?

Only, if you're changing swingarm length there's presumably handling benefits involved. Why not leave yourself the provision to change swingarm length to a lesser degree in order to fine tune that?

Our swingarm is currently too short. Turning right is next to impossible with the throttle open at all as it just unloads the front hoop and drives straight ahead. This can't be completely fixed, what witha big chunk of the bikes weight hanging out the left. But it can be improved.

The sacrifice is of course reduced direction changing speed. But it's still a short chair so better at that than a gay long chair.

Adjustment is hard to build in since with the new axle/wheel, one half of the swingarm needs to come off completely.

[Grumph]

Well if it's too hard to change the arm. I'd go for a slotted pivot mount on the frame and inserts to suit.
The Rickman round insert is nice but for sheer bloody minded cheap arse practicality, the Colin Lyster square inserts take some beating. There's a locating strip welded to the frame front and rear of the slot, an off center hole in the insert - and you can turn each insert two ways...
i can't post pics here but if you want to see how Colin did it, PM me - I've got a Lyster frame here.

[Ocean1]

Our swingarm is currently too short. Turning right is next to impossible with the throttle open at all as it just unloads the front hoop and drives straight ahead. This can't be completely fixed, what witha big chunk of the bikes weight hanging out the left. But it can be improved.

The sacrifice is of course reduced direction changing speed. But it's still a short chair so better at that than a gay long chair.

Adjustment is hard to build in since with the new axle/wheel, one half of the swingarm needs to come off completely.

OK. But like the man says you could make the swingarm pivot adjustable, no?

In fact a cleaver bastard might make it adjustable vertically as well, there's advantages in messing with arm pivot height to change weight bias under acceleration, and if you'd like the front planted a bit better on the gas and maybe just a little drift in the back it might be worth some design hassle.

[nodrog]

i think drew has me on ignore

[Drew]

i think drew has me on ignore

Be fucken funny if I did.

Built a work table for it this afternoon. Now we can take shit apart and still move it round.

Putting adjustment in the swingarm pivot, is only beneficial if the other two wheels are adjustable to balance everything. All we wanna do is get a number board lower than 6 after the nats. Then start again on something better.

[nodrog]

Putting adjustment in the swingarm pivot, is only beneficial if the other two wheels are adjustable to balance everything......

no, its also beneficial for chain adjustment.

[Drew]

no, its also beneficial for chain adjustment.

No, a chain worn enough to need adjusted is FUCKED.

[nodrog]

No, a chain worn enough to need adjusted is FUCKED.

unless you change the gearing.

[sidecar bob]

Im thinking of this idea for an invention where you get a round thing & drill a hole in the middle of it & put a shaft through the hole & you can put it under things to make them easier to move.

[Drew]

Im thinking of this idea for an invention where you get a round thing & drill a hole in the middle of it & put a shaft through the hole & you can put it under things to make them easier to move.

I'm not reinventing anything. I just figure that adjusters are not required if we have a few different chains to match sprocket sizes.

[old rig]

I'm not reinventing anything. I just figure that adjusters are not required if we have a few different chains to match sprocket sizes.

Put a new chain on and it will need to be adjusted after a weekend of racing

I can see you needing them

We put new chain on at the isle of man and after one lap there was a hell of a lot of play in it and that was only after 38 miles

[Drew]

Put a new chain on and it will need to be adjusted after a weekend of racing

I can see you needing them

We put new chain on at the isle of man and after one lap there was a hell of a lot of play in it and that was only after 38 miles
Hmmm, that is not my experience of new chains. New 520 chain on the RF when I got it, never needed adjustment between tyre changes.

What condition were the sprockets in on the chair in question?

Anyhoo. Seems I'm the only one who thinks they're surplus to requirement. Looks like we'll fashion some adjustment in there.

[mossy1200]

Hmmm, that is not my experience of new chains. New 520 chain on the RF when I got it, never needed adjustment between tyre changes.

What condition were the sprockets in on the chair in question?

Anyhoo. Seems I'm the only one who thinks they're surplus to requirement. Looks like we'll fashion some adjustment in there.

Initial stretch but then calms down. 30mins of practise time on each chain and wouldn't be so bad after that.

[old rig]

Hmmm, that is not my experience of new chains. New 520 chain on the RF when I got it, never needed adjustment between tyre changes.

What condition were the sprockets in on the chair in question?

Anyhoo. Seems I'm the only one who thinks they're surplus to requirement. Looks like we'll fashion some adjustment in there.

Could you make an adjuster like the old mx spring loaded one's might be easier

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[nodrog]

Could you make an adjuster like the old mx spring loaded one's might be easier

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it will have too much torque for it, had one on the chair ricks got, its just for show. still had too run chain tight on the adjusters.

[sidecar bob]

Hmmm, that is not my experience of new chains. New 520 chain on the RF when I got it, never needed adjustment between tyre changes.




You didn't own a Katana 1100 with 630 non o ring chain then. :pinch: Had to buy it by the pallet load.

[jellywrestler]

Hmmm, that is not my experience of new chains. New 520 chain on the RF when I got it, never needed adjustment between tyre changes.

What condition were the sprockets in on the chair in question?

Anyhoo. Seems I'm the only one who thinks they're surplus to requirement. Looks like we'll fashion some adjustment in there.

was your rf running 200mm of rubber flat on the ground and carry nearly three times it's weight?

[scrivy]

was your gf running 200mm of flubber on the ground and carry nearly three times it's weight?

Fark!!!! Sounds like one of Bobs fantasy fucks......:shutup::yes:

[scrivy]

You didn't own a Katana 1100 with 630 non o ring chain then. :pinch: Had to buy it by the pallet load.

Yip. How many chains did my old EFE snap...... :devil2:

[scrivy]

Hmmm, that is not my experience of new chains. New 520 chain on the RF when I got it, never needed adjustment between tyre changes.

What condition were the sprockets in on the chair in question?

Anyhoo. Seems I'm the only one who thinks they're surplus to requirement. Looks like we'll fashion some adjustment in there.

My old chair went through 2 chains each year. More costly than brakes.....

[old rig]

My old chair went through 2 chains each year. More costly than brakes.....

But not as costly as Bob's fantasy fucks eh:banana:

[scrivy]

But not as costly as Bob's fantasy fucks eh:banana:

MMMMM.... BFHM :2thumbsup

[Stirts]

MMMMM.... BFHM :2thumbsup

Bum
Fuck
Him
Mental

But he's already mental, he gets on a sidecar with you :bleh:

[Kickaha]

Could you make an adjuster like the old mx spring loaded one's might be easier

We looked at using a spring loaded one on my Superkart,instead we put a threaded adjuster on it so we could set the tension

[Drew]

My old chair went through 2 chains each year. More costly than brakes.....
You must have been paying less for brake pads than we are. Was mighty surprised at what we had to pay for pads, and we haven't tried to find rear and chair pads yet.

We looked at using a spring loaded one on my Superkart,instead we put a threaded adjuster on it so we could set the tension
Screw that. Any time it spends taught, is just sapping power. That's why I wanted to move our swingarm pivot, but ended up putting the half shaft in.

[Kickaha]

You must have been paying less for brake pads than we are. Was mighty surprised at what we had to pay for pads, and we haven't tried to find rear and chair pads yet..
What kind of calipers? $400 for two calipers for the Pagids


Screw that. Any time it spends taught, is just sapping power. That's why I wanted to move our swingarm pivot, but ended up putting the half shaft in.
Worked well, took a less than a minute to adjust compared to all the usual fucking about on them, as for sapping power you wouldn't even notice the amount you'd lose, if any

[Drew]

What kind of calipers? $400 for two calipers for the PagidsWilwood up front.


Worked well, took a less than a minute to adjust compared to all the usual fucking about on them, as for sapping power you wouldn't even notice the amount you'd lose, if any
Ours needed to be over tight to the max static, to not slip on the sprocket when the rear compressed.

[Drew]

I think we're missing a bit.

[sidecar bob]

I think we're missing a bit.

Cant you Just leave the poor thing alone FFS.

[Drew]

Cant you Just leave the poor thing alone FFS.

No. I want it as good as it can be, for the unlikely eventuality that we race it one day.

[nodrog]

No. I want it as good as it can be, for the unlikely eventuality that we race it one day.

you cant have a monoshock in classics.

[ellipsis]

you cant have a monoshock in classics.


...you can't have anything in Classics...get it right...

[nodrog]

...you can't have anything in Classics...get it right...

you can have anything you want, as long as it was built by somebody on minimum wage, in their shed, in Wanganui, in 1971.

[Grumph]

you can have anything you want, as long as it was built by somebody on minimum wage, in their shed, in Wanganui, in 1971.

A better description is built in the back of Taggarts workshop in Belfast canterbury, by some guy in shorts, jandals and with a beard which was a fire hazard....
From whatever was lying around the yard at the time, and while all the time cursing a blue streak.
(Yes, I visited Mo there occasionally)

Your thing on the other hand, qualifies as cruelty to a tricycle.

[nodrog]

...Your thing on the other hand, qualifies as cruelty to a tricycle.

Greenpeace sent me a cease and desist letter after seeing photos of Warwick on it.

[Kickaha]

Greenpeace sent me a cease and desist letter after seeing photos of Warwick on it.

Fuck and here I was going to offer you a ride on the LCR at HD, now you can get fucked

[sidecar bob]

Fuck and here I was going to offer you a ride on the LCR at HD, now you can get fucked

It will be more interesting watching him kick your arse on something he is being lent.:bleh:

[Kickaha]

It will be more interesting watching him kick your arse on something he is being lent.:bleh:

Like I'll even care

[nodrog]

......, now you can get fucked

Choice, what's ya room Number?

[sidecar bob]

Like I'll even care

Come on, care, it will be more fun that way.

[Drew]

Going against everything we have talked about, and making the swingarm fixed length. There will be a tensioner to hold the slack to stop chain whip, and to act as a sort of cush drive.

[nodrog]

Going against everything we have talked about, and making the swingarm fixed length. There will be a tensioner to hold the slack to stop chain whip, and to act as a sort of cush drive.

what sort of tensioner? I feel you may be disappointed with the result if it is some sort of spring arrangement.

[Grumph]

Going against everything we have talked about, and making the swingarm fixed length. There will be a tensioner to hold the slack to stop chain whip, and to act as a sort of cush drive.

Have a look at how ATK did it.

[Drew]

what sort of tensioner? I feel you may be disappointed with the result if it is some sort of spring arrangement.

The same as what was on there, I'll put a weak one on the drive side and a strong one on the bottom.

[Kickaha]

Choice, what's ya room Number?
Fuck off last time I shared a motel unit with you I got woken up at stupid o'colock by an alarm clock going off

Come on, care, it will be more fun that way.
I'm not really results orientated, I'd be more interested in lap time improvements over who I beat (if anyone)

Have a look at how ATK did it.
While they're doing that maybe they could set a disc brake up on the countershaft as well

[Grumph]

While they're doing that maybe they could set a disc brake up on the countershaft as well

Well I did think his problem in the first place was how long and difficult it was to change to wets...With no brake to worry about it would be easier....

But no, i actually meant the idler sprocket system ATK used - which i'm told by the owner of one, actually does work...

[Drew]

We've looked at an idler before. But it was going to really fuck the suspension up, so we went with the primary chain to a midd point shaft.

The reality of the current situation is pretty simple. Motivation is at an all time low. We haven't ridden the bike in nearly a year, and when we did we got average results. So we're getting it going with the most basic system to make, that still gives the handling advantages we are after.

[Kickaha]

The reality of the current situation is pretty simple. Motivation is at an all time low. We haven't ridden the bike in nearly a year, and when we did we got average results. .

Fucken boo hoo :weep: harden up princess, you weren't ever going to get better than average results

[Drew]

Fucken boo hoo :weep: harden up princess, you weren't ever going to get better than average results

I'm talking about Al getting chucked off the bike and the problems we were having ya fucktard.

[Drew]

Wow, this Tig welding lark is difficult. In the interest of time, I think I'll Mig the rest of these mitres.

[Drew]

Right. So it was amateur hour when I was welding with the Tig. I had the wrong electrode in there for mild steel, and had to have the amps ramped up to make up for it.

Luckily, you can only buy 8m lengths from Steel and tube...so we've got some spare.

[nodrog]

Right. So it was amateur hour when I was welding with the Tig. I had the wrong electrode in there for mild steel, and had to have the amps ramped up to make up for it.

Luckily, you can only buy 8m lengths from Steel and tube...so we've got some spare.

pics please

[Shaun Harris]

Right. So it was amateur hour when I was welding with the Tig. I had the wrong electrode in there for mild steel, and had to have the amps ramped up to make up for it.

Luckily, you can only buy 8m lengths from Steel and tube...so we've got some spare.



Stick with Tig dude, Im fukin off now

[Mental Trousers]

Right. So it was amateur hour when I was welding with the Tig. I had the wrong electrode in there for mild steel, and had to have the amps ramped up to make up for it.

Luckily, you can only buy 8m lengths from Steel and tube...so we've got some spare.

A learning experience.

[jellywrestler]

A learning experience.

they can be but are way more forgiving than migs, i've struggled with even welds for a while but seem to have cracked it now, practice and not changing lots of settings at once, and of course the right tip helps. best thing is you can run over a weld again, remelt it where you don't get that option with mig

[Drew]

pics please

The grinder got some use.

[nodrog]

The grinder got some use.

Al's always on grinder.

[Ocean1]

Right. So it was amateur hour when I was welding with the Tig. I had the wrong electrode in there for mild steel, and had to have the amps ramped up to make up for it.

Luckily, you can only buy 8m lengths from Steel and tube...so we've got some spare.

What rods are you using?

[Drew]

What rods are you using?

I don't have them on hand to answers that. But the grey electrode was the issue.

Made good progress today. Got a solid design for the bolt together section of the swinging arm. Got the left side and brace together.

[Drew]

Pics or it didn't happen they reckon.

So here it is as it stands...or swings, as it were.

[nodrog]

Pics or it didn't happen they reckon.

So here it is as it stands...or swings, as it were.

fuck and you reckon my hubs gunna break? :bleh:

[Drew]

fuck and you reckon my hubs gunna break? :bleh:

Do I? I think I'm in the minority that reckons your hub is sweet.

[Kickaha]

How much easier will it make it and how much time will it save?

[Drew]

How much easier will it make it and how much time will it save?

Wheel change will now take a couple of minutes, and can be done with the bike just off the ground. 10-15 minutes before, and the bike had to be a minimum of 500mm up.

That's why we bought the new wheels for the rear, and since shit needed to change I decided the suspension/swingarm geometry could get fixed in all.

[sidecar bob]

How quick can you do an air box change?:facepalm:

[Edbear]

Wheel change will now take a couple of minutes, and can be done with the bike just off the ground. 10-15 minutes before, and the bike had to be a minimum of 500mm up.

That's why we bought the new wheels for the rear, and since shit needed to change I decided the suspension/swingarm geometry could get fixed in all.

Hope you do get it ready in time. I am keen to see the finished product. That's of course acknowledging that it will never be truly finished...

[Drew]

How quick can you do an air box change?:facepalm:
I can do an airbox change on the front straight of Ruapuna during a race actually.

Hope you do get it ready in time. I am keen to see the finished product. That's of course acknowledging that it will never be truly finished...
We're still planning on doing a season or two, then selling it to get a better chair. So it'll be finished once we've got the back end in, pretty much.

[Edbear]

I can do an airbox change on the front straight of Ruapuna during a race actually.

We're still planning on doing a season or two, then selling it to get a better chair. So it'll be finished once we've got the back end in, pretty much.

Cool! You guys have worked damn hard on it so it would be great to see you get some results.

[Drew]

Cool! You guys have worked damn hard on it so it would be great to see you get some results.

Yeah bro. It's a top five chair, and really easy to ride. But I'm an egotistic prick, and want to win races if we can.

[Edbear]

Yeah bro. It's a top five chair, and really easy to ride. But I'm an egotistic prick, and want to win races if we can.

Well, I guess I can forgive you for that. :laugh:

What a buzz that would be!

[swarfie]

Pics or it didn't happen they reckon.

So here it is as it stands...or swings, as it were.

Hope you've got alignment sleeves around those cap screws (sandwiched between the two parts) or I think you'll find the removable arm will "work" and come loose or flog the holes out...IMHO:msn-wink:

[sidecar bob]

Hope you've got alignment sleeves around those cap screws (sandwiched between the two parts) or I think you'll find the removable arm will "work" and come loose or flog the holes out...IMHO:msn-wink:

Don't listen to him Drew, Ive seen both of your workmanship.

[swarfie]

Don't listen to him Drew, Ive seen both of your workmanship.:nya::lol::killingme

[Drew]

Hope you've got alignment sleeves around those cap screws (sandwiched between the two parts) or I think you'll find the removable arm will "work" and come loose or flog the holes out...IMHO:msn-wink:

Yeah bro, sleeves welded into the swingarm and bolts go through those.

[swarfie]

Yeah bro, sleeves welded into the swingarm and bolts go through those.

Isn't it amazing how two great minds can think alike:clap:

[Drew]

Isn't it amazing how two great minds can think alike:clap:

I've had many a laugh at folk who just chuck a bolt through box or tube, and can't figure out why it won't stay tight.

This bad boy is strong as all fuck. It is a fairly high stress application after all. But if it can sheer 3 out of 4 high tensile M8 cap screws, the wheel wouldn't withstand the impact anyway.

Al should have the axle clamps made this arvo, and the swingarm cut to accept them. If so and he doesn't get it put together while I'm away this weekend, I should be able to get it back on three wheels Monday night.

Then it's just the brakes to put on and we can do a run down his hill to buy a box of beer, to make sure it all works.

We'll get a test day in before the Shorai, or we won't be risking it.

[Drew]

Hey Nev. If we come to the Shorai, can you do a warrant on the chair for us? It's been over two years I have just realised.

[Kickaha]

and want to win races if we can.

Pretty fucking unlikely unless you're bringing down here to club days or something

[Drew]

Pretty fucking unlikely unless you're bringing down here to club days or something

Not talking about this chair. But I reckon a modern shorty with a Gixxer thou up it could still do the bizzo. The Windle was unbelievably stable and responsive when I rode it, if we get summat similar I'll be happy.

[Kickaha]

But I reckon a modern shorty with a Gixxer thou up it could still do the bizzo. The Windle was unbelievably stable and responsive when I rode it, if we get summat similar I'll be happy.

I look forward to the day someone has a good one and is taking it to the LCRs

[Drew]

I look forward to the day someone has a good one and is taking it to the LCRs

Here's hoping we can be those someones.

[sidecar bob]

I look forward to the day someone has a good one and is taking it to the LCRs

Someone did, & they did take it to the LCR's, in two countries.

[Kickaha]

Someone did, & they did take it to the LCR's, in two countries.

Ancient history, they couldn't do it now

[sidecar bob]

Ancient history, they couldn't do it now

Correctly, they can't be fucked doing it now.
There's a hub centre gsxr1000 powered shorty for sale in Aus right now, buy it & show us up.
Are LCR's that much faster than they were in 2011?

[Kickaha]

Correctly, they can't be fucked doing it now.
There's a hub centre gsxr1000 powered shorty for sale in Aus right now, buy it & show us up.
Are LCR's that much faster than they were in 2011?

Not much faster, but fast enough you wouldn't be able to do it whether you could be fucked or not

I think having Reeves out here might be a bit of an eye opener to just how fast the LCRs can be ridden and although they wont be at Shorai I'd expect Colin/Robbie to be a bit quicker now as well

It wouldn't matter if I bought the latest LCR with the best motor I doubt I'd do the times you guys used so a hub centre gsxr1000 shorty wouldn't do shit for me

[Drew]

Correctly, they can't be fucked doing it now.
There's a hub centre gsxr1000 powered shorty for sale in Aus right now, buy it & show us up.
Are LCR's that much faster than they were in 2011?

Is it onecock or heavy as fuck?

[Kickaha]

Is it onecock or heavy as fuck?

This one http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151328-Sidecar-Racing?p=1130396628#post1130396628

[Drew]

Got one of those swingarms for the chair.

[sidecar bob]

This one http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151328-Sidecar-Racing?p=1130396628#post1130396628

Twin to Chris Pym's outfit.
We beat him every time at Eastern creek, but he was right on us.
Pym's wanted 70k for his a while back, as that was near enough the build price. I think he may still have it.

[Drew]

Pym's wanted 70k for his a while back, as that was near enough the build price. I think he may still have it.

That is not surprising.

[nodrog]

Twin to Chris Pym's outfit.
We beat him every time at Eastern creek, but he was right on us.
Pym's wanted 70k for his a while back, as that was near enough the build price. I think he may still have it.

its a better price now.

When do you pick it up?

[sidecar bob]

its a better price now.

When do you pick it up?

Link me in gee.

[Kickaha]

its a better price now.

It would need to be, even Reeves last championship winning LCR could have been landed for less than that

[Drew]

Axle clamps on. Just gotta tickle the crush tube at the pivot end, and we can do a test fit up of everything and weld it up.

[Grumph]

Axle clamps on. Just gotta tickle the crush tube at the pivot end, and we can do a test fit up of everything and weld it up.

Weld it with the axle and suitable spacers in or it'll move.....

[Drew]

Weld it with the axle and suitable spacers in or it'll move.....

We've got plugs spun up to stop it distorting, but the pivot point is existing. So just need to file the ends of the crush tube that goes through the swingarm till it is accepted in gap.

Mount the brake calliper, run weld around everything, and Robert's ya mother's brother.

[scrivy]

Twin to Chris Pym's outfit.
We beat him every time at Eastern creek, but he was right on us.
Pym's wanted 70k for his a while back, as that was near enough the build price. I think he may still have it.

He went on to win the Aussie champs too..... :2thumbsup

[Drew]

That's a load off my....


It all fits together.

[Kickaha]

What width is the rim? looks too narrow for the tyre that's on it

Axle release sytem is whats on Goobers bike but with the brake and sprocket on opposite sides it still takes 3/4 hour to change the rear wheel

[Drew]

Ten inch rim with a ten inch hoop bro.

I pulled the wheel and axle out today, chucked a sprocket on and put it all back together in ten minutes today. That was with the shock not connected, so I had to lift wheel and the axle to get it in. If I can't do it in five minutes start to finish, I'll be very surprised.

[Drew]

I'm a little disappointed though. With just the left side holding it all, it's surprisingly rigid. I'd have gone with 100x50 and made it single sided if we'd had the axle made to have the bearings further apart.

Oh well, we're not shelling out for another to be made now.

[Grumph]

Are you going to do any boxing in and/or gusseting ?

Is that caliper just sitting there or is there a mount done ?
If the mount is still to be done, a good trick to hold the caliper in place while you fabricate the mounts is simply to put compressed air into the caliper.
I've remounted so many bloody calipers now I've made three different thread adaptors for my air line. Very useful too.

[Drew]

Are you going to do any boxing in and/or gusseting ?

Is that caliper just sitting there or is there a mount done ?
If the mount is still to be done, a good trick to hold the caliper in place while you fabricate the mounts is simply to put compressed air into the caliper.
I've remounted so many bloody calipers now I've made three different thread adaptors for my air line. Very useful too.

Not sure what you mean about boxing in. After I weld up the joints, there's no more bracing or strength require.

Yeah, calliper is just sitting there. I like that idea for hold it in position. We've probably got a fitting in the drawer that can be made to work. Cheers bro.

[Shaun Harris]

after all the effort, I hope it goes well, and you get to do some racing in it

[Drew]

It was at a stage where we could just ride it before. But that ain't how I roll.

[Edbear]

I'm a little disappointed though. With just the left side holding it all, it's surprisingly rigid. I'd have gone with 100x50 and made it single sided if we'd had the axle made to have the bearings further apart.

Oh well, we're not shelling out for another to be made now.


What you learn from this build you take to the next one. ;)

[Shaun Harris]

It was at a stage where we could just ride it before. But that ain't how I roll.


Good. I look forward to you doing some serious race results then

[sidecar bob]

It was at a stage where we could just ride it before. But that ain't how I roll.

Yes, I've seen you roll, in fact I commentated the whole thing, my favourite part was Al leaping up & shaking your hand. He's an odd wee man.

[Kickaha]

It was at a stage where we could just ride it before. But that ain't how I roll.

We have someone just like that down here, I should put you two in touch so you can swap build stories

[Drew]

We have someone just like that down here, I should put you two in touch so you can swap build stories

Get fucked. He started with a good chair.

[Drew]

It's back on its wheels. Fuck yeah!

To celebrate, we chopped a bunch of stuff off it.

[Drew]

Calliper mount nearly done. Al will spin up some inserts to weld into the swinging arm, and that's the rear ready for paint.

[nodrog]

I just noticed the start date of this thread, I didn't think it was that long ago.

[Shaun Harris]

this whole racing section would be dead with out Drew and his building projects

[Drew]

I just noticed the start date of this thread, I didn't think it was that long ago.

Hahahahahahahahaha, read a couple of the early pages.

"Looking at the list of things to do, and it's quite short". At least I was optimistic.

[Drew]

this whole racing section would be dead with out Drew and his building projects

The buckets don't count, they're not real bikes.

The chair has been raced quite a lot though, I just find stuff to improve every time I ride it is all.

Some poo poo this approach, but I swore I would always look for stuff to improve after racing a supersport and a superbike with terrible set up issues I didn't rectify. Though, a 749R trpple clamp would have been fucken hard to track down to fix that one.

[sidecar bob]

The buckets don't count, they're not real bikes.

The chair has been raced quite a lot though, I just find stuff to improve every time I ride it is all.

Some poo poo this approach, but I swore I would always look for stuff to improve after racing a supersport and a superbike with terrible set up issues I didn't rectify. Though, a 749R trpple clamp would have been fucken hard to track down to fix that one.

Youre a legend bro, the last of a special breed & a one man party to boot!!

[scrivy]

Youre a legend bro, the last of a special breed & a one man party to boot!!

OCD comes to mind..........:bleh:

[Grumph]

Hahahahahahahahaha, read a couple of the early pages.

"Looking at the list of things to do, and it's quite short". At least I was optimistic.

Ah, no....to quote the building company ads on TV, you didn't know what you didn't know......

Saw a good quote years ago, British Admiral re the then current Brit PM and his ideas on WW1 "He's like a boody virgin, he thinks he knows - and he does know - but he hasn't had the bloody experience...."

Carry on, it's made fun reading.

[Shaun Harris]

The buckets don't count, they're not real bikes.

The chair has been raced quite a lot though, I just find stuff to improve every time I ride it is all.

Some poo poo this approach, but I swore I would always look for stuff to improve after racing a supersport and a superbike with terrible set up issues I didn't rectify. Though, a 749R trpple clamp would have been fucken hard to track down to fix that one.



Doing what are doing is a major part of the buzz for a kiwi racer dude, good on ya both I say, safer, faster and smoothere, where is the problem with that

[Drew]

The swinging arm is finally ready for prep and paint.

Start on getting the masters mounted tonight.

That is always a cunt, but at least this time they're going in a spot they fit in.

Then we gotta reshape the rear fairing.

[Drew]

Well, that escalated quickly.

[Grumph]

Whoever signs it off had better take pics - "This is the form it was in when i signed it off....."
Seems to be subject to change at a moments notice.

[Drew]

Whoever signs it off had better take pics - "This is the form it was in when i signed it off....."
Seems to be subject to change at a moments notice.

It's due for a WOF now. And unless this latest round of work is a total fuck up, I don't ever intend to do anything other than change wet stuff and tyres.

[sidecar bob]

It's due for a WOF now. And unless this latest round of work is a total fuck up, I don't ever intend to do anything other than change wet stuff and tyres.

Oh pmsl, lolz.

[scrivy]

It's due for a WOF now.

Got mirrors and lights??

[scrivy]

Well, that escalated quickly.

Still better shape than my ride.....

[Drew]

That looks like a good spot for them. And everything that needs to get shifted is flexible. I think we were a bit hasty when we last built this thing.

[Drew]

Still better shape than my ride.....

Do some fucken yoga and ride pinky then.

[Bert]

Progress...

Would it be possible to provide front end geometry.
Current building a "non real" sidecar and trying to sort out front end options.
Cheers

[scrivy]

Do some fucken yoga and ride pinky then.

I'm not good enough to ride her.....
Too slow....

[mr bucketracer]

Progress...

Would it be possible to provide front end geometry.
Current building a "non real" sidecar and trying to sort out front end options.
Cheersnon real , may have to drop you of the team with a comment like that (-;

[Drew]

Progress...

Would it be possible to provide front end geometry.
Current building a "non real" sidecar and trying to sort out front end options.
Cheers

Ours is not an ideal one to scale down mate, but I'll measure it up for ya next session.

Made progress today, but not as much as I wanted. When ya have to fabricate components, it soaks up time something fierce.

The wee tunnel through the chassis is made of a pipe split down the centre, and two bits of plate welded between the halves. Then welded into the hole.

So the master cylinders are in final position, and the just need the mounts welded all the way.
It all lines up and works out well.

Al worked on his seat for the day. Chopping the deck down and getting the new deck support well underway.

Here's where we're at so far.

[sidecar bob]

I'm not good enough to ride her.....
Too slow....

The problem is that between us we weigh as much as Tina, Tracey & Tracey. Apparently that's a disadvantage, but two Tracey's should get the vacuuming done pretty bloody quickly though.
Here's a pic of what I've been working on this arvo, the ex Bill Biber K100rs racer.
Prefer not to start a thread about it.

[Kickaha]

Here's a pic of what I've been working on this arvo, the ex Bill Biber K100rs racer..

Back in the day, about 87-88 at Manfield

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/23507_332047819498_4489434_n.jpg?oh=86231d4aa7c581 5ef21c7b3a306d3904&oe=56928BEE

BEARs race on whatever year and weekend they ran the last Castrol 6 hour

[sidecar bob]

BEARs race on whatever year and weekend they ran the last Castrol 6 hour

Well I will truly be fucked. I was trying to make the wheel spacers work with the front Marvic in the direction they all rotate in (spokes sweeping backwards) as you can see in my photo, & gave up in disgust when nothing seemed to fit? Now I see that it spins the "wrong" way. That makes it all better.
I'm doing second incarnation, with full RS fairings & bike clinic on the fork legs & sidecovers as it was before it was parked up for years.
But hang on, it's a FZR front wheel in your pic. As you were.

[Shaun Harris]

The problem is that between us we weigh as much as Tina, Tracey & Tracey. Apparently that's a disadvantage, but two Tracey's should get the vacuuming done pretty bloody quickly though.
Here's a pic of what I've been working on this arvo, the ex Bill Biber K100rs racer.
Prefer not to start a thread about it.


That is the same Yellow that I like for wheels. I reckon they look cool, and kinda make the bike look fast just sitting there

[Kickaha]

Well I will truly be fucked. I was trying to make the wheel spacers work with the front Marvic in the direction they all rotate in (spokes sweeping backwards) as you can see in my photo, & gave up in disgust when nothing seemed to fit? Now I see that it spins the "wrong" way. That makes it all better.

Is the wheel not symmetrical?

Last time I saw that bike I think was early nineties on display in a bike shop in Masterton

[Grumph]

Well I will truly be fucked. I was trying to make the wheel spacers work with the front Marvic in the direction they all rotate in (spokes sweeping backwards) as you can see in my photo, & gave up in disgust when nothing seemed to fit? Now I see that it spins the "wrong" way. That makes it all better.
I'm doing second incarnation, with full RS fairings & bike clinic on the fork legs & sidecovers as it was before it was parked up for years.
But hang on, it's a FZR front wheel in your pic. As you were.

Looks like an FZR wheel in the rear too. How the f do you make it fit a brick ?

And to follow Kicks' question, are both wheels offset to the left of center ?

[sidecar bob]

Looks like an FZR wheel in the rear too. How the f do you make it fit a brick ?

And to follow Kicks' question, are both wheels offset to the left of center ?

Sorry about the hijack drew. I don't know about how you fit a FZR wheel into a brick, it has a rare as rocking horse shit magnesium built for the job PVM in the rear now.
Unsure about the offset, I'm just restoring it, Michael Dobson who built it will be seconded in by BRM to tell the story at the end.
Wheels are the Continental tyres logo colour as the bike was conti sponsored at one point.
The bike was supplied to me with a 20 year old can of Dulux 2k in the correct colour.
My painter used it to match it with the latest hi tech paint system.

[Drew]

All good Steve, hijack away.

It's a shame we have to put all the wiring back on the chair. It looks so good and tidy without it. Way back when I shortened the loom, I remember thinking that I should have made a jig to shape it and get the branches coming out in the exact spot. Fucken glad I didn't, would be impossible to shift stuff round now.

[nodrog]

All good Steve, hijack away.

It's a shame we have to put all the wiring back on the chair. It looks so good and tidy without it. Way back when I shortened the loom, I remember thinking that I should have made a jig to shape it and get the branches coming out in the exact spot. Fucken glad I didn't, would be impossible to shift stuff round now.

Yeah my new sidecar looks pretty good without the wiring on too.

[Drew]

Yeah my new sidecar looks pretty good without the wiring on too.

Want our old swingarm to adapt? That'll take months of your build, and give you something metal to add to your mock up when ya pretend in the shed at night.

[nodrog]

Want our old swingarm to adapt? That'll take months of your build, and give you something metal to add to your mock up when ya pretend in the shed at night.

swingarm should be finished this week. nearly done.

[Drew]

Bathurst was boring. Back to work.

[Drew]

Christ it took a long time to suss out getting brake fluid into the rear calliper.

[Drew]

Brake lines are nearly done. One bit of rigid to go to the rear/chair wheel splitter, and it's bleed 'em up. Then I'll be able to finish the lever, and we can do shed skids!

[nodrog]

....and we can do shed skids!

oh so that thing is allowed in a shed? :(:ride::blah::grouphug::apumpin:

[Drew]

oh so that thing is allowed in a shed? :(:ride::blah::grouphug::apumpin:

Yes, of course.

[scrivy]

oh so that thing is allowed in a shed? :(:ride::blah::grouphug::apumpin:

Come on Gordie, you know you'd ride it......

[nodrog]

Come on Gordie, you know you'd ride it......

only if you passenger.

[scrivy]

only if you passenger.

Once bitten, twice shy mutha fucka....... :crazy:;)

[Drew]

You guys should take it for a spin on the practice day before the Suzuki series.

[Drew]

In other news, I just tried to ride a motoX bike. Chop being the good cunt that he is wanted some company.

Be a good way to keep fit. I can't do more than three laps in a row.

[nodrog]

You guys should take it for a spin on the practice day before the Suzuki series.

keen scrivy?

[scrivy]

keen scrivy?

Only if I'm in control of the loud handle and brake pedal.....:crazy:

[jellywrestler]

Only if I'm in control of the loud handle and brake pedal.....:crazy:

and the deck is cut away far enough to let the brake operate fully without hitting the deck first....

[Drew]

and the deck is cut away far enough to let the brake operate fully without hitting the deck first....

Our foot brake complies with the requirements of being the only brakes, but we have a completely separate brake master on the bar for just a front.

He'll be sweet.

[Drew]

We have brakes!

I need to dig through my fittings and find something the right length to seal in the tapered thread in the drive wheel calliper though. The mating surface doesn't seal well enough.

[Drew]

What a pain in the arse that was. Changed the calliper to sort out the lines in the end, I don't have any tapered fittings for doing it the other way.

[sidecar bob]

What a pain in the arse that was. Changed the calliper to sort out the lines in the end, I don't have any tapered fittings for doing it the other way.

Is it a JFZ caliper? I'd be inclined to drill & tap it to take a 8mm banjo bolt, although that would mean it would need a machined surface for the washer to seal on.

[jellywrestler]

Is it a JFZ caliper? I'd be inclined to drill & tap it to take a 8mm banjo bolt, although that would mean it would need a machined surface for the washer to seal on.

before you pick up an 8mm tap check the threads on the fitting, they have finer threads than normal so it'll probably mean getting a set of taps including bottoming tap of the correct thread size

[Drew]

That's why I used the other calliper chaps. It's already tapped on both sides, so we're all sorted. No need for machined surface as I've got a tapered thread elbow fitting jammed in one side and a plug on the other.

So as long as the chain doesn't foul on the plugged side, Robert's ya mother's brother.

[jellywrestler]

That's why I used the other calliper chaps. It's already tapped on both sides, so we're all sorted. No need for machined surface as I've got a tapered thread elbow fitting jammed in one side and a plug on the other.

So as long as the chain doesn't foul on the plugged side, Robert's ya mother's brother.

you headin up this weekend?

[Drew]

you headin up this weekend?

Yeah, bit not racing. Spannering for the Scotsman and taking Gordie's bike up.

[scrivy]

Why ya not racing?

Damn phone....

[Drew]

Chair isn't ready or tested. We've made some big mods, be good to know it isn't going to collapse under us.

[sidecar bob]

Chair isn't ready or tested. We've made some big mods, be good to know it isn't going to collapse under us.

You're soft.
Gordie is going to bolt some numbers on that 550 & race it straight off your trailer.

[jellywrestler]

You're soft.
Gordie is going to bolt some numbers on that 550 & race it straight off your trailer.

whatever happened to good old duct tape?

[Drew]

You're soft.
Gordie is going to bolt some numbers on that 550 & race it straight off your trailer.

That'll be awesome. It runs rough and has no brakes.

[Drew]

Plus, we have to get a new inspection done on the chair. Might get Ian drunk before he looks at it.

[nodrog]

.... has no brakes.

They are on my bench, halfway through getting a birthday.

[nodrog]

Plus, we have to get a new inspection done on the chair. Might get Ian drunk before he looks at it.

Bob can do it, just don't call it a streetfighter and you will be sweet.

[Drew]

Bob can do it, just don't call it a streetfighter and you will be sweet.

Pity I'm not bringing it this weekend.

[sidecar bob]

Pity I'm not bringing it this weekend.

Useless cunt, Nothing worse than a ADHD child with nothing to do.
You will have to give Shaun a hand.

[scrivy]

You will have to give Shaun a handjob.

Fixed it for ya..... :bleh:

[sidecar bob]

whatever happened to good old duct tape?

He's not number eleven.

[Shaun Harris]

Useless cunt, Nothing worse than a ADHD child with nothing to do.
You will have to give Shaun a hand.



haha. I will not be at Shorai Barry sheene gig. 2x ADHD kids together, O Fuk

[Shaun Harris]

Fixed it for ya..... :bleh:


O, thanks I think Biatch

[Shaun Harris]

Pity I'm not bringing it this weekend.


Since you will not be racing on Boxing day either then, you may as well help me out there eh ( Or is there some races I have not thought about where you can be observed and given exemption for the street racing rule?) I was onserved and deemed fit lol last weekend at Hampton, in case I get injured between now and boxing day, and cannot get the 3 min in.

[Drew]

I will ride the RF to an AMCC meeting if I have to.

[nodrog]

I will ride the RF to an AMCC meeting if I have to.

What about Al?

Bring your gear and license to hamsters.

[Shaun Harris]

I will ride the RF to an AMCC meeting if I have to.


Do you need to be observed on your chair to get dispensation, or just on track on a race a bike dude?

[scrivy]

Do you need to be observed on your chair to get dispensation, or just on track on a race a bike dude?

I can observe him from here.......

He's a dodgy cunt......

He won't pass.......

:crazy:

[Mental Trousers]

Useless cunt, Nothing worse than a ADHD child with nothing to do.
You will have to give Shaun a hand.

He's helping the Scotsman so he'll have broken engines, gearboxes and a bike to repair.

[Shaun Harris]

I can observe him from here.......

He's a dodgy cunt......

He won't pass.......

:crazy:


haha, I know that by his comments on here, I am fuked if I know if I would even recognizse him, and cannot even remember if we have ever met fact to face. NO, not that way ya sickO

[scrivy]

haha, I know that by his comments on here, I am fuked if I know if I would even recognizse him, and cannot even remember if we have ever met fact to face. NO, not that way ya sickO
Pretty sure he doesnt have a 'fact' .... although it may have been beside your face before.....[emoji48]

Damn phone....

[Shaun Harris]

Pretty sure he doesnt have a 'fact' .... although it may have been beside your face before.....[emoji48]

Damn phone....



lol at least he can spell and proof read his engrish correctly though. I am trying to improve that part of my life, just need to slow down a little more. Nah, bugger that

[nodrog]

haha. I will not be at Shorai Barry sheene .....

who the fuck is making my Milo then?

[Grumph]

who the fuck is making my Milo then?

Who can you trust not to piss in it ?

[jellywrestler]

2x ADHD kids together, O Fuk

you and who else?

[Shaun Harris]

Who can you trust not to piss in it ?



Haha bastard, spoiled my plan:mad:

[jellywrestler]

He's helping the Scotsman so he'll have broken engines, gearboxes and a bike to repair.

and need an interpreter

[nodrog]

Who can you trust not to piss in it ?

Shaun will need a step ladder.

[Shaun Harris]

Shaun will need a step ladder.


I would climb a mountain, as long as the piss ended up where it was aimed

[Drew]

Mmmkay, some random pics.

And Al's much reduced space.

[Drew]

Ooooooh look. We found something we hadn't pulled apart and fucked with for a while.

[nodrog]

Ooooooh look. We found something we hadn't pulled apart and fucked with for a while.

is that the brake wheel of a hudswell clarke lord mayor?

[Drew]

is that the brake wheel of a hudswell clarke lord mayor?

We dunno what it's off. Opposed pot brake calliper, so we figured it was the same as the ones all the classic lads use.

The rod ends were flogged out, so we're replacing them with beefier automotive ones.

[sidecar bob]

We dunno what it's off. Opposed pot brake calliper, so we figured it was the same as the ones all the classic lads use.

The rod ends were flogged out, so we're replacing them with beefier automotive ones.

You should turbo the tow vehicle while you're at it.

[Shaun Harris]

You should turbo the tow vehicle while you're at it.



Lol, yea it sounds like they are building the whole world again, hope they are enjoying it, and it does pass it;s WOF test of course.

[Drew]

You should turbo the tow vehicle while you're at it.
Already looked into it. The Dungeon motor is prone to bending rods if ya chuck a puffer on 'em.

Lol, yea it sounds like they are building the whole world again, hope they are enjoying it, and it does pass it;s WOF test of course.
This is just maintenance. There was a bit of play in the two rod ends that attach the chair wheel.

[Drew]

It'll pass it's WOF. The new brakes are easily within the regs for emergency operation, and they don't even need to be given that we've got a completely separate hand operated calliper on the front.

The swingarm and shock are stronger than they've ever been.

My left foot sits pretty close to the brake disk, but with the toe guard on the pedal there's no way to get anything rubbed or chopped.

[scrivy]

there's no way to get anything rubbed...

What's ya missus gunna do now then ???

You'll have to buy her toys now.....

[Drew]

Buy shares in Energiser!

[Shaun Harris]

Already looked into it. The Dungeon motor is prone to bending rods if ya chuck a puffer on 'em.

This is just maintenance. There was a bit of play in the two rod ends that attach the chair wheel.



I know dude

[Drew]

No photos at the minute, been a bit slack. The chair is finished mechanically, and the body work has begun. Al reshaped the drive wheel cover to hid the disk and stuff, so that and the repairs from Burt plowing into us at Hampton needed smoothed and finished nicely.

I started to lay some big on last night, when a mate came over to say hello. The look on his face when he saw it spoke volumes. He immediately took over and began undoing many years of bog on bog with a grinder and flapper disk. He's really good at that shit where we are clearly not. As he shaped the new rear fairing, he made me take the chair cover outside and cut off the 15mm thick (not an exaggeration) bog on that. Jimmy MacGlaughlan is his name, support that mo'fucker if yer ever watching the NZ V8 racing.

In other news, I emailed Greg about a dispensation to race Wanganui. He's sending it out for me, he has no issues letting us race. Good cunt.

[scrivy]

of bog on bog...

Shit, and here's me thinking I was gunna get to see vids of toilet cams..... :shutup::facepalm::shifty:

[Shaun Harris]

In other news, I emailed Greg about a dispensation to race Wanganui. He's sending it out for me, he has no issues letting us race. Good cunt.


Good shit- have fun

[Drew]

Body work is depressing.

That is all.