MotoGP 2018

[pritch]

Def towards the tougher end of the hard passes scale!


If a Japanese rider had done that it would have been called the Kamikaze.

[SaferRides]

Ahahahahahaha Senna walks away like a boss. Doesn't even turn around for a second look.It was payback after Prost did the same thing the year before. But not Senna's finest moment.

[Autech]

Some funny PR stunt:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/video/892022/1/video-marquez-pedrosa-undercover-petrol-station

Fav quote: Goes to Dani "You should be world champion" then goes to Marc "Let someone else win" PMSL!

Got to love the Spanish fans

[roogazza]

Some funny PR stunt:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/video/892022/1/video-marquez-pedrosa-undercover-petrol-station

Fav quote: Goes to Dani "You should be world champion" then goes to Marc "Let someone else win" PMSL!

Got to love the Spanish fans

That was refreshing ! Thanks for posting. :cool:

[EJK]

Some funny PR stunt:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/video/892022/1/video-marquez-pedrosa-undercover-petrol-station

Fav quote: Goes to Dani "You should be world champion" then goes to Marc "Let someone else win" PMSL!

Got to love the Spanish fans

How would you have acted if you were one of the surprised customers in the vid?

[Autech]

How would you have acted if you were one of the surprised customers in the vid?

I'd have kidnapped Dani and fed him some pies

[speights_bud]

How would you have acted if you were one of the surprised customers in the vid?Called him a puta then show him dear George.

[Autech]

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2018/march/motogp-crutchlow-gunning-for-pedrosas-seat-/

So he beats Dani in one race when Dani had tyre issues and now he's after his seat?
Best up your game bro! Only point I agree on is Zarco is not guaranteed to go fast on the Honda so if it came down to a toss up between them, I'd still go Zarco as Crutchlows form is a known quantity.

Dovi in talks with Honda too which I find surprising, he hardly set the world on fire on that bike but he's a whole new rider these days. I dunno... Could just be putting pressure on Ducati to lay him with some big stacks $$$. J

[pritch]

So he beats Dani in one race when Dani had tyre issues and now he's after his seat?


That headline is misleading. The initial impression I got was that Crutchlow is having too much to say too soon. His actual comments are quite measured though and make sense




Dovi in talks with Honda too which I find surprising,

The Ducati guys are on the second year of two year contracts. Things have changed a lot since those contracts were signed. Lorenzo is on a huge multi million deal and Dovi - ummm not so much - barely a fraction. Dovi though has been getting the better results. The Italian has apparently said he wants Ducati to show him that he is appreciated. They may be able to do that because Lorenzo sure as Hell won't be offered the same deal next time, or anything even remotely like it. Unless he takes the title this year?

[WALRUS]

Dovi in talks with Honda too which I find surprising, he hardly set the world on fire on that bike but he's a whole new rider these days. I dunno... Could just be putting pressure on Ducati to lay him with some big stacks $$$. J

https://d2d0b2rxqzh1q5.cloudfront.net/sv/1.67/dir/82e/image/82e43ac74c8dfba185ecb6d82a1a870e.jpg

Been there, done that...

[Crasherfromwayback]

[IMG]
Been there, done that...

Yeah but he's a diff man to the one he was back then. He has the self belief now, a huge factor in being able to win races.

[george formby]

Yeah but he's a diff man to the one he was back then. He has the self belief now, and huge factor in being able to win races.

Dovi has had a rough few years. Beaten up by all and sundry, including his ex team mate which must have been, er, de-motivating.

So self belief and a great understanding of his opponents abilities. I'm reasonably sure he reeled MM in on Sunday.

Seems like their are a lot of riders capable of getting on the podium this season. And a lot of riders with a point to prove.

I'm still getting my head around Zarco holding the lead on the brakes for so long. That tire must have been mush.

[WALRUS]

Yeah but he's a diff man to the one he was back then. He has the self belief now, and huge factor in being able to win races.

Very good point, well made!

And the bike is different, too! It's a bit like people hanging shit on Rossi for not having a good time on the Ducati when it was a proven championship winner.. In 2007... 4 years later the bike was very different. And now, 7 years later again, it's another significantly different machine. The same goes for the other manufacturers! I think some people get caught up with "it's the same colour, it's the same bike" not realising that the tech and specs are pretty bloody different!

Personally, I'd rather all the front runners switch to KTM and Aprilia, and the middleish riders jump on Suzuki's, and the regular "back markers" should jump on all the big budget, "winning" factory bikes like the Duc', Yammie, and Honda... Mix it-the fuck-up haha!!

[pritch]

Been there, done that...

Ummm yeah. I seem to recall Dovizioso was struggling at Honda first time around and was responsible for getting Kiwi Pete Benson axed from the Repsol team. Didn't solve his problem though.

[BMWST?]

Ummm yeah. I seem to recall Dovizioso was struggling at Honda first time around and was responsible for getting Kiwi Pete Benson axed from the Repsol team. Didn't solve his problem though.
dunno about struggling ,stoner and pedrosa are fairly competitive team mates!.

[ellipsis]

How would you have acted if you were one of the surprised customers in the vid?


...I met Giacomo Agostini at a country fuel stop outside of Chch some years back...he was on what was then the newly recalled to the ranks, MV Agusta...it wasn't 'til down the road a bit in my truck that I thought, I kinda know that face I was talking bike pleasantries to, but that was that...I went to the little country bar/cafe that was on my agenda, fixing a plumbing/tap problem...Collin who owned the bar came in and kicked me while I was under the sink on my back and handed me a credit card and said, 'read who owns this'...it was Ago's card ...he had stopped in for a BLT and coffee on his way back from Akaroa...I had a coffee break and talked to him for a bit...we talked of the Puke Classic, meeting he was down here to do, me racing a T20 Suzuki, the road he had just ridden, the MV and our little town ...that was pretty much him on his bike and me back to work...

[pritch]

Y'all will have heard of the Sun newspaper in Britain.

They printed a quote from Cal Crutchlow. They then pointed out that Crutchlow is married with a little daughter and used this photo of Crutchlow and his wife to illustrate their article .

Now we all know that isn't Crutchlow. That's actually "UK Jake" but it took me a year or two to discover what Jake does. Jake is definitely in with the in crowd. Wherever the GP is, he seems to be there talking and joking with the riders, but I had no idea what his job was. It turns out Jake is the man from Monster drinks, his job is to look after the riders sposored by Monster.

But Cal Crutchlow he ain't. Nice looking friend he's got there though.

[Autech]

Yeah I saw that pic in the article, was like "thats not Cal!" But they were focusing on the wives of the racers

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[pritch]

I don't read The Sun, if I see mention of the paper it's always negative. Must be a Murdoch rag? Anyhoo, I went to check the original article and suspect they might have modified it but I thought some of you might still be young enough to appreciate this?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5857626/motogp-wags-season/

[Berries]

If Sam Fox isn't on it I'm not interested.

[merv]

I don't read The Sun, if I see mention of the paper it's always negative. Must be a Murdoch rag? Anyhoo, I went to check the original article and suspect they might have modified it but I thought some of you might still be young enough to appreciate this?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5857626/motogp-wags-season/


Haha, Dovi's girl Alessandra Rossi, that's not you know who's sister by any chance lol? :scooter::beer:

[ellipsis]

If Sam Fox isn't on it I'm not interested.



...same...

[george formby]

If Sam Fox isn't on it I'm not interested.

She still looks good but you do know she bats for the other side?

If you can't lick your eyebrows, no chance.

[ellipsis]

She still looks good but you do know she bats for the other side?

If you can't lick your eyebrows, no chance.


...I hate cricket, with a passion...

[george formby]

...I hate cricket, with a passion...

IIRC Sam once posed in pads and a box.

Next race? Thoughts?

[ellipsis]

Thoughts?

...ummm, aarrgh, um...

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[Autech]

She still looks good but you do know she bats for the other side?

If you can't lick your eyebrows, no chance.I had to google who she is :D

Not my era...

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[merv]

I had to google who she is :D

Not my era...

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For sure. In her 50's now.

[Autech]

For sure. In her 50's now.Which dinosaur is that?

Cougarsorecock?

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[pritch]

Somebody asked Motomatters if there had been any evidence of ball tampering in MotoGP. David Emmett replied, "Only Rossi leaving pit lane".

[george formby]

...ummm, aarrgh, um...


K'inell. Been a fan forever (tits, too) but never heard that track. Chur.:clap:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Somebody asked Motomatters if there had been any evidence of ball tampering in MotoGP. David Emmett replied, "Only Rossi leaving pit lane".

He's got himself a real prob if his balls are there.

[speights_bud]

He's got himself a real prob if his balls are there.Nobody said they were his.

Probably just removing the indentations...

[pritch]

Things are on the move again. This morning Alex Briggs posted that today he is travelling Brisbane, New Zealand, Chile, Argentina.

[BMWST?]

seems a mission to get there.I tried googling to get a flight.The first few attempts didnt even get a result.I only got a flight(s) if i didnt try to get to the airport there!(RHD).!

[pritch]

seems a mission to get there.I tried googling to get a flight.The first few attempts didnt even get a result.I only got a flight(s) if i didnt try to get to the airport there!(RHD).!

If you are going it'll be good to read your comments after. Apparently the track is way out in the sticks.

[Autech]

Going off Top Gears experiences there I'm not surprised, if the place can organise an angry mob and the Police can't stop it then international travel there wouldn't be common.

Shouldn't have fucked with Maggie Thatcher!

Do have an Argentinian friend, I'll ask her the usual route they use when they do go back.

[Reckless]

Very interesting by Mat Oxley

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/motogps-roulette-wheel?utm_campaign=Mat+Oxley+-+030418+-+roulette+wheel&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=

Crutchlow not holding back LOL
“We always knew the Michelin rear was good – but Michelin had to go away from that tyre because some idiots can’t ride,” Crutchlow told me at the end of 2016. “There are these guys who smoke the tyre, so it chunks, then we all get hindered because Michelin had to give us harder tyres. The guys that chunk the tyres either need to learn to ride or they should have the hard tyres and we should have the normal tyres.”

Agree with this comment to :)

“Mugello is close to being lost,” says Race Director Mike Webb. Other old-school tracks like Phillip Island, Brno and Sachsenring are also in danger. Why? Because corner speeds have reached such a level that the runoff areas at these older tracks are barely enough to contain a fallen, cartwheeling motorcycle.

Therefore if the tyres get better and corner speeds increase further, MotoGP will have to axe Mugello and these other wonderful venues in favour of the many identikit go-kart-type racetracks under construction around the world.

I don’t know about you, but I know what I’d prefer: keep corner speeds static, or slightly decrease them (which was Dorna’s long-term plan) and keep racing at Mugello and MotoGP’s other greatest tracks.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Therefore if the tyres get better and corner speeds increase further, MotoGP will have to axe Mugello and these other wonderful venues in favour of the many identikit go-kart-type racetracks under construction around the world.

I don’t know about you, but I know what I’d prefer: keep corner speeds static, or slightly decrease them (which was Dorna’s long-term plan) and keep racing at Mugello and MotoGP’s other greatest tracks.[/I]

Just reduce the size of the tyres allowed.

[ellipsis]

Just reduce the size of the tyres allowed.

...put them all out on 12 inch rims then ya reckon, Crasher?...

[Crasherfromwayback]

...put them all out on 12 inch rims then ya reckon, Crasher?...

110/90x19 front and 120/80x18 rears. Worked on a KX500!

[speights_bud]

110/90x19 front and 120/80x18 rears. Worked on a KX500!Let's go back to 16" fronts and 18" rears!

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Let's go back to 16" fronts and 18" rears!



In all of my motorcycle experience, only Kawasaki got that combo right. (GPz900R)

[speights_bud]

In all of my motorcycle experience, only Kawasaki got that combo right. (GPz900R)My first experience was on an 84 (I think?) gixxer400. And that was around 2007.

Blew my mind tipping the front in and having to wait half an hour for the back to follow. It was a bit of a shitter that bike. But deffo an expected step backwards from what I'd been riding at the time...

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[pritch]

Previously I'd read about the isolation of the track, the meat, the dogs and the thefts. Here it is all in one comprehensive guide. It's a long read but a good one.


https://motomatters.com/opinion/2018/04/03/motomatterscom_travel_guide_race_02.html

[Autech]

My first experience was on an 84 (I think?) gixxer400. And that was around 2007.

Blew my mind tipping the front in and having to wait half an hour for the back to follow. It was a bit of a shitter that bike. But deffo an expected step backwards from what I'd been riding at the time...

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkRacing my NC24 I got an inkling of why people diskike that combo of tyres. Definitely a strange sensation compared to other bikes I have ridden and raced

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Previously I'd read about the isolation of the track, the meat, the dogs and the thefts. Here it is all in one comprehensive guide. It's a long read but a good one.


https://motomatters.com/opinion/2018/04/03/motomatterscom_travel_guide_race_02.html

Good read thanks. It's one I'd like to see despite the hassles and cost though.

[actungbaby]

dunno about struggling ,stoner and pedrosa are fairly competitive team mates!.

He did fine i remember him in close contact to both dani and cs.
Was only. Because they droped from
A three bike team. I always thought was good . Seem to remember everone gushing over mavrick . I dont think he got the x factor .whatever that is.
To be world champion u got have it.


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[actungbaby]

If Sam Fox isn't on it I'm not interested.

Soory break it you same fox is gay bro . Still u can dl here songs :-)


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[Crasherfromwayback]

[QUOTE=actungbaby;1131092253]Soory break it you same fox is gay bro . Still u can dl here songs :-)


/QUOTE]

What the fuck are you actually trying to say?

[Autech]

So apparently there is a direct flight from Auckland to Argentina.

Gorgeous women there to oogle too so might be worth going at some stage Crasher

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[Crasherfromwayback]

So apparently there is a direct flight from Auckland to Argentina.

Gorgeous women there to oogle too so might be worth going at some stage Crasher



There was certainly a shitload of gorgeous women in Spain when I went to Valencia. Some young kid with the initials MM won the 125 title there...

[BMWST?]

Previously I'd read about the isolation of the track, the meat, the dogs and the thefts. Here it is all in one comprehensive guide. It's a long read but a good one.


https://motomatters.com/opinion/2018/04/03/motomatterscom_travel_guide_race_02.html

that confirms exactly what i found when i undertook my(theoretical) travel plan

[pritch]

that confirms exactly what i found when i undertook my(theoretical) travel plan

For the benefit of the intrepid explorer types who want to go there, and it is a apparently great track, the recommendation was to use Pole Position Travel. They specialise in organising GP trips and know the ropes. The experience thus may not be pain free but it should be as painless as possible.

[Berries]

What the fuck are you actually trying to say?
He was pointing out that a certain page 3 girl who was quite popular when I was in my late teens might dabble with other ladies.

Still not worked out why that is a problem.

[roogazza]

There was certainly a shitload of gorgeous women in Spain when I went to Valencia. Some young kid with the initials MM won the 125 title there...

Nice Pete, maybe time to do it again ? you could sell off one of your collection each year to pay for it.

Is that shoulder of yours still in a state of being mended ? If not ,heal well. :niceone:

I rode yesterday !!! :bleh::bleh:

[pritch]

This is FP2 and some have slightly better positions on combined times but Dovi is way down whatever. If the forecast rain arrives he and Lorenzo will be in trouble. JL is behind Syahrin again, I feel a Dear George coming on.

1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 325.0 1'39.395
2 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 325.7 1'39.799 0.404 / 0.404
3 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 324.8 1'40.346 0.951 / 0.547
4 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 316.8 1'40.455 1.060 / 0.109
5 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 319.3 1'40.494 1.099 / 0.039
6 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 320.6 1'40.510 1.115 / 0.016
7 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 317.9 1'40.577 1.182 / 0.067
8 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 318.0 1'40.592 1.197 / 0.015
9 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 320.5 1'40.766 1.371 / 0.174
10 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 314.0 1'40.800 1.405 / 0.034
11 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 314.2 1'40.839 1.444 / 0.039
12 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 316.9 1'40.842 1.447 / 0.003
13 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 327.3 1'40.863 1.468 / 0.021
14 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 319.4 1'40.974 1.579 / 0.111
15 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 318.0 1'41.198 1.803 / 0.224
16 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 315.6 1'41.257 1.862 / 0.059
17 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 323.5 1'41.334 1.939 / 0.077
18 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 314.4 1'41.357 1.962 / 0.023
19 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 322.6 1'41.784 2.389 / 0.427
20 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 313.8 1'41.832 2.437 / 0.048
21 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 320.5 1'41.867 2.472 / 0.035
22 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 314.4 1'41.898 2.503 / 0.031
23 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 320.3 1'42.242 2.847 / 0.344
24 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 319.4 1'42.973 3.578 / 0.731

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nice Pete, maybe time to do it again ? you could sell off one of your collection each year to pay for it.

Is that shoulder of yours still in a state of being mended ? If not ,heal well. :niceone:

I rode yesterday !!! :bleh::bleh:

Hahahaha. Nah. Not wanting to part with any of the family just yet mate. Need to finish the build on a few of them, then just enjoy them for a bit. Shoulder is coming along great thanks mate. Will be back on a bike the coming summer all going well. Hope you enjoy the season!!! MM nearly binning it leaving his pit...

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2018/04/06/highlights-marc-steals-the-show-in-termas/254233

[roogazza]

Crashalot made a big ERROR following his best friend in for slicks in Qual 1 .
One lap and MM was in again to change back?
#35 probably would've had a better result staying out there and not blindly following the Joker/Gambler ?
You'd be crazy to bet against #93 blowing thru the grid.He has that ability.

The Kiwi/Aussie cross breed did bloody well for pole. Race however is another thing altogether. :shifty:

[mulletman]

Millers pole lap was entertaining as was his previous :gob: :niceone:

[ecko_nzed]

Millers pole lap was entertaining as was his previous :gob: :niceone:How he managed to stay on staggers belief. Then set the fastest lap the following lap! I would have shit myself and headed straight for the pits to change leathers and get a hug from someone

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[pritch]

Crashalot made a big ERROR following his best friend in for slicks in Qual 1 .
One lap and MM was in again to change back?
#35 probably would've had a better result staying out there and not blindly following the Joker/Gambler ?


Ummm can't follow your reasoning there Gaz. Jackass did the same thing, but he stayed out and made it work. His crew must've got a thrill, wondering where he had gone then suddenly - wham! He's on pole.
Just a shame we all missed his final lap.

[roogazza]

Ummm can't follow your reasoning there Gaz. Jackass did the same thing, but he stayed out and made it work. His crew must've got a thrill, wondering where he had gone then suddenly - wham! He's on pole.
Just a shame we all missed his final lap.

True pritch he did. Can only guess it was drying fast cos MM only did one lap. Time was almost up too but Miller gambled and it worked.
Are we still claiming he's a kiwi or has that died out ?
Do you think Crafar has improved on the mic. His speech is quite slow but I think needs more grunt?

[Dadpole]

The bits I saw of Millers lap were white-knuckle stuff. I was sure he was going to bin it but the freak held it together in a way that Marquez would applaud. I won't pick him for a podium though...

My pick (more guesswork than science) is:
MM
VR
DP

[Crasherfromwayback]

The bits I saw of Millers lap were white-knuckle stuff. I was sure he was going to bin it but the freak held it together in a way that Marquez would applaud. I won't pick him for a podium though...

My pick (more guesswork than science) is:
MM
VR
DP

Here' ya go then.

JZ

MM

DP

VR


MV

[pritch]

True pritch he did. Can only guess it was drying fast cos MM only did one lap. Time was almost up too but Miller gambled and it worked.
Are we still claiming he's a kiwi or has that died out ?

Do you think Crafar has improved on the mic. His speech is quite slow but I think needs more grunt?

I don't know that it was drying, I suspect turns 7 & 8, or whichever ones were wet, put MM and CC off. The clips that showed Miller there showed that he should have been put off too but wasn't. He eventually realised he couldn't feed it any gas at all there and he just had to coast through that section on his last lap.

Not sure if anybody here is claiming Miller, but that might be not unreasonable considering Pavlova, Phar Lap and Lorde. Etc etc. :bleh:

Crafar still sounds muddy. I thought it was his mike but when he holds it out to Pedrosa, Miller et al, they sound fine. It might be his technique. Only his second attempt though, here's hoping he improves.

There was some whinging about Race Direction's decision re the Canet incident, which alas I haven't seen. Mike Webb announced that it was a racing incident, Jeremy McWilliams apparently disagreed and said that there should be a rider in Race Direction. It was pointed out that Capirossi was on the panel now, but so is Uncini who won a 500cc title. I can't remember which year McWiiliams won a world title? :whistle:

[Autech]

My 2 fav riders in spots 1 and 2.

Fuck yeah.

Awesome ride by Jack and showed some maturity despite the madness, he basically knew that he could make up enough time in the dry sections to allow for massive scary moments in the 2 wet corners. That and to go all in is the only way on slicks or they don't work.

All the pundits are calling for a dry race but who knows, so I will give my wet vs dry pics

Wet:
DP (looks like he may have sussed his wet dramas)
MM
JM

Dry:
MM
CC
DP

Mixed:
MM
Some cunt behind MM
The other cunt behind the cunt behind MM

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[Autech]

Circus

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[EJK]

Circus

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I think I know who you'll hate from now :eek:

On that note, OH THE DRAMA!!! This race was pure madness.

9/10 for entertainment value.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think I know who you'll hate from now :eek:

On that note, OH THE DRAMA!!! This race was pure madness.

9/10 for entertainment value.

Fuck Cunting Crutchlow! I had good money on Zarco and thought I was in the money! MM was doing well until he did the silly move on Rossi. Should be disqualified for that. LOl. JUst saw MM go to apologise to Rossi, and Rossi's BF waved him off! Great to have your partner stick up for you eh! When Rossi made the noddy move on Stoner and took him out, he was allowed to apologise and seem like the good guy. Pity his team isn't so sporting.

[mulletman]

18th for MM , and a sheepish apology to VR i hope he does the same for AE.

[EJK]

18th for MM , and a sheepish apology to VR i hope he does the same for AE.

Seems Rossi's team rejected him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

18th for MM , and a sheepish apology to VR i hope he does the same for AE.

He didn't get to apologise. Rossi's BF, I mean body guard saw to that. Shame they didn't tell Rossi to fuck off like that when he apologised to Stoner for cleaning him out. MInd you, it lead to one of the best put downs on Moto GP history.

[roogazza]

My god the race was a crap fest from the start.

Then my copying stopped with about two corners to go !!!! that just topped it off :mad:

Oh well good for the numbers game I guess,as the usuals didn't gain many points. :crazy:

[eelracing]

Reckless abandon is now the go to race mode for the little turd.He got everything he deserved in Rossi's pit.

Awesome race though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Reckless abandon is now the go to race mode for the little turd.He got everything he deserved in Rossi's pit.

Awesome race though.

Lol. Being told to go away by Rossi's BF? Yet Rossi was allowed to look like the good guy apologising to Stoner when he cleaned him out? Take the blinkers off mate. At least MM didn't purposely kick out at him eh? And MM got basically disqual for it, yet Rossi only got made to start from from back of the grid next race? Tui!

[Autech]

Can't see how they can penalise MM for that and not Zarco for Pedrosa? Was a very similar "move".

Oh and never liked Zarco that just sealed the deal. Fast riders don't need to take out other riders, that could have very well ended Pedrosas career if he'd hit his shoulder again. Hope he at least apologises. He will be let off by the press though as the MM VR shit will dominate the headlines.

Whole race was a shit fest, didn't enjoy it at all untill CC beat that fuckwit to the win clean n fair.
JM rode brilliantly too as did Rins, fucking cool tyre smoke and beat his team mate again

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Can't see how they can penalise MM for that and not Zarco for Pedrosa? Was a very similar "move".



Let's clarify a couple of things. Zarco and MM's moves were very similar, and both not on. But MM got basically DQ'ed for his move. What would've happened if he'd binned it under brakes, and skittled Rossi? Would that be just a *racing incident*, like it was deemed when Rossi did a bone head move on Stoner whilst riding the Ducati?

Rossi is sounding more and more like the whinging pussy his fans claim Stoner was! Like he's never done such things. At least MM didn't kick out at him when going for the move! He's scared to race against MM! Now he's gonna speak to MIke Webb to see if he can do something about MM! Fuck off !!

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2018/04/08/termas-clash-rossi-s-point-of-view/254833

[pritch]

Whole race was a shit fest,

But what a glorious shit fest. I'm still grinning. Of course I'd have black flagged Marquez, he was just not in a fit state of mind to be on the track. There's a thin line between brilliant and crazy and he crossed it. YMMV.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Of course I'd have black flagged Marquez, he was just not in a fit state of mind to be on the track. There's a thin line between brilliant and crazy and he crossed it. YMMV.

Yet in Moto 3 when it's a total bun fight, everyone is all for it? Go figure? By the way, we need a new word that rhymes with Rossi than means moaning bitch.

[Autech]

But what a glorious shit fest. I'm still grinning. Of course I'd have black flagged Marquez, he was just not in a fit state of mind to be on the track. There's a thin line between brilliant and crazy and he crossed it. YMMV.Might have enjoyed it if it weren't for my home boy getting taken out yet again.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

Marquez can get fucked. There's no need for that.

[Oscar]

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30441388_10215672197421776_7074260441630769152_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFWb-JmuIPDWb7HbIvemEDeTN5bqz9tSLhTw_09uEGP9Mr77ofEnhNO gRJsEGaGomK-IGJeIpztfPvMcQiOiFwq3dOSpEI73tvFa_cFam4R6w&oh=4bb973ffe270f454a12bb64d08f95e2c&oe=5B605EFB

[Autech]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/893376/1/zarco-explains-pedrosa-clash-blames-wet-patches

So many contradictions in what he is saying, basically he thinks he was on the dry, but had to pick the bike up because if you go narrow you run wide, but Dani was already on the wet line so crashed... Erm Zarco you high? You bumped him wide which caused him to crash. There was no gap there you just made one as you like to do. PMSL.
Can't wait to see Dani's response on track, hope he pays him back with interest Jack Miller style.

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[ellipsis]

...meanwhile, back at the pointy end it was a good race...decisions by race control, weather, unforseen fuckups by a big time factory rider made what happened possible...I think Jackass was dealt a big kick to the nuts by everyone and is very much within his rights to have a fucking big moan too...MM was in a, have to win at all costs and petulant mode and should have been warned earlier on, when Espagaro got the little cunts wheel shoved into his leg...Stoner wasn't racing and hasn't for a long time...too wrongs don't make a right but fer fucksake, get over it...well done Cal, Johann and Alex and commiserations to Jackass...Glad that Dani is ok...it certainly wasn't a boring race...

[pritch]

I'll give Marquez credit for one thing, he took his helmet off before he made the walk to Rossi's pit box. Rossi wasn't game to do that when he visited Stoner, but then there was a reason for that.

It may well be that my memory is slipping, but when was the last Suzuki podium?,

[HenryDorsetCase]

...meanwhile, back at the pointy end it was a good race...decisions by race control, weather, unforseen fuckups by a big time factory rider made what happened possible...I think Jackass was dealt a big kick to the nuts by everyone and is very much within his rights to have a fucking big moan too...MM was in a, have to win at all costs and petulant mode and should have been warned earlier on, when Espagaro got the little cunts wheel shoved into his leg...Stoner wasn't racing and hasn't for a long time...too wrongs don't make a right but fer fucksake, get over it...well done Cal, Johann and Alex and commiserations to Jackass...Glad that Dani is ok...it certainly wasn't a boring race...

I would understand (but not excuse) it if it was the last race of the season with the title on the line, winner take all .... but race 2 of the season? He was just being a wanker. The problem (for him) might be if all the other kids in the playground gang up to teach him a lesson....

[pritch]

Have just been reading the public comments on the Motomatters site, and it's very apparent that we all tend to see what we want to see to some extent. Although perhaps not always to the extent of the conspiracy theorist who wrote that Rossi fell off deliberately just so that Marquez would be penalised.

What a strange reality some people inhabit. :whistle:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Marquez can get fucked. There's no need for that.

I know right! Rossi is the only one allowed to do that shit! Fuck me, he can even deliberately pick a bike up mid corner and run a guy of the track and it's ok! Hell yeah boi!!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

I know right! Rossi is the only one allowed to do that shit! Fuck me, he can even deliberately pick a bike up mid corner and run a guy of the track and it's ok! Hell yeah boi!!!

He is the GOAT. Pleased you see it my way. ;-)

[Crasherfromwayback]

He is the GOAT. Pleased you see it my way. ;-)

You cunts seriously need to get a grip. With each season that goes by, Rossi becomes more of a queer cunt, dirtier and softer. As do his fans. Typical of the school yard bully though. Hates it when the shoe is on the other foot and goes crying to the headmaster like a bitch.

[carbonhed]

You cunts seriously need to get a grip. With each season that goes by, Rossi becomes more of a queer cunt, dirtier and softer. As do his fans. Typical of the school yard bully though. Hates it when the shoe is on the other foot and goes crying to the headmaster like a bitch.

:lol: You do have to admire a guy who can be such a whiny cunt in so many languages though!

Typical fucking Italian too... whining to the adults to try and get some other prick in trouble. They enjoy the intrigue around the game almost more than the sport itself.

Crutchlow wins, leads the championship and Marquez puts Rossi on the deck... Rooshaggas head must have exploded :niceone:

[Autech]

Person with the most reason to be pissed off is Jack Miller though, he would certainly have won if it weren't for the cunts halting the race start.

[Crasherfromwayback]

:lol: You do have to admire a guy who can be such a whiny cunt in so many languages though!

:

In all my years watching the sport, I've NEVER seen such a fucking cry baby session as that. Ever. What a fucking hypocritical knobstain.


Person with the most reason to be pissed off is Jack Miller though, he would certainly have won if it weren't for the cunts halting the race start.

Yeah, have to agree there. Dunno that he would've won, and I can understand that 20 cunts charging out of pitlane would create a problem. I personally think they should've made them all go back to their original spots with their original tyre choices. I'm no Miller fan, but that was rank and he has every right to be well pissed.

[Drew]

What a balls up.

Good racing from most of the field.

[pritch]

In all my years watching the sport, I've NEVER seen such a fucking cry baby session as that. Ever. What a fucking hypocritical knobstain.



I haven't got a video pass this year so had to get the reported "highlites" from Twitter, but even so. Rossi certainly seems to have got a lot off his chest. Dovi had his 2c worth as well.

Race Direction might need to have a word before someone gets hurt.

To be continued?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I haven't got a video pass this year so had to get the reported "highlites" from Twitter, but even so. Rossi certainly seems to have got a lot off his chest. Dovi had his 2c worth as well.

Race Direction might need to have a word before someone gets hurt.

To be continued?

Dude, you're a bloody good bloke, and I know, a die hard Rossi fan. But if you'd seen his complete bleat, and were still a fan, I'd have to wonder about you. As for him basically say MM was too much of a pussy to come and see him one on one!!?? Fucking laughable!!!

[Mental Trousers]

I haven't got a video pass this year so had to get the reported "highlites" from Twitter, but even so. Rossi certainly seems to have got a lot off his chest. Dovi had his 2c worth as well.

Race Direction might need to have a word before someone gets hurt.

To be continued?

Dude, you're a bloody good bloke, and I know, a die hard Rossi fan. But if you'd seen his complete bleat, and were still a fan, I'd have to wonder about you. As for him basically say MM was too much of a pussy to come and see him one on one!!?? Fucking laughable!!!!

Looked to me like Puig marched Marquez down to Rossi's garage, otherwise Marquez wouldn't have done anything.

But I love watching Rossi fan's after something like that. Talk about tears.

[pritch]

Dude, you're a bloody good bloke, and I know, a die hard Rossi fan. But if you'd seen his complete bleat, and were still a fan, I'd have to wonder about you. As for him basically say MM was too much of a pussy to come and see him one on one!!?? Fucking laughable!!!

As I wrote I only got highlites from a nice young lady in England. And true, it was Rossi got me back into following GPs.

There hasn't been much physical "hows yer father" in MotoGP. Rossi V Biaggi and Hayden V Biaggi are the only instances I'm aware of.

[meerkatships]

Person with the most reason to be pissed off is Jack Miller though, he would certainly have won if it weren't for the cunts halting the race start.

Yes, that is true. On his place, I will...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Looked to me like Puig marched Marquez down to Rossi's garage, otherwise Marquez wouldn't have done anything.

But I love watching Rossi fan's after something like that. Talk about tears.

And neither should he. Do you remember Rossi going to apologise to MM after the Sepang take out? Which by the way, was deliberate. And yep. Boo hoo all round!




There hasn't been much physical "hows yer father" in MotoGP. Rossi V Biaggi and Hayden V Biaggi are the only instances I'm aware of.

Tell ya who my money would be on in a dust up between MM and Rossi...long as he didn't include his bouncer (sorry BF) as well! Fuck me, Imagine if Stoner had sent his wife out to tell Rossi to fuck off! I'm still wetting myself over the images!

[AllanB]

Marquez can get fucked. There's no need for that.

100% agree - that's just stupid riding. They need to send a message - ban him for two races.

[carbonhed]

Looked to me like Puig marched Marquez down to Rossi's garage, otherwise Marquez wouldn't have done anything.

But I love watching Rossi fan's after something like that. Talk about tears.

Puig said exactly the opposite in his interview... seemed pretty straightforward and upfront about it.

[steveyb]

I don't care what youse fullas say, Italian is the best language in the world!!!!
Vorrei palare piu itliano!!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Looked to me like Puig marched Marquez down to Rossi's garage, otherwise Marquez wouldn't have done anything.

But I love watching Rossi fan's after something like that. Talk about tears.

I just want to go on the record and say it wasnt acceptable when Rossi did it either. Its funny - I am not the motogp fan I once was. I mean, I watch the races, but I just dont get obsessed with it. I far prefer watching old clips on youtube (and listening to the 2 strokes). Its because I am old and that was what was cool when I was first into it. Plus it was fucking impossible to get information.

[BMWST?]

MM should have been sent to pit lane for the start.That whole starting thing was a complete fiasco.everyone but Jack should have been disqualified.They left the grid!
MM absolutely lost the plot after the ride through.And in some ways you cant blame him.As I said they should have forced him to start from the pit lane.

i may have missed it but did they declare the race a dry race AFTER they had already said it was a wet race.IS that why they all left the grid?

[steveyb]

I dunno Pete, I think you might be losing a little sight of the real ethos of motorbike racing here.
We (you and me and others) have not raced at the pointy end of road racing in some time, but I can guarantee you that if someone were riding like MM did today against us we would not have had a spew to the press. We would have presented him with a knuckle sandwich good and proper.
We all traded paint and all that, but on 250 Proddy bikes bro, not MotoGP bikes.

I think that today (and perhaps the weekend) the red mist got the better of MM and he really did show a lack of respect for the other riders, and as VR suggested, perhaps even from Friday (I can't verify that).

VR has absolutely nothing to gain by talking shit up in the press. He is the most famous motorcycle racer of all time (probably the best, but MM is likely to gain that crown) and one of the most famous people Italy has ever known. He needs no more press time. Sure he wants to gain a psychological advantage if he can. If he didn't then he would not be 9 times world champion.

But he also does not want to get hurt again, nor have anyone else hurt. He also loves motorcycle racing. This is evidenced by the creation of The Ranch, VR46 Academy, VR46 Racing and other activities. MM is still much younger, but we have yet to see the MM93 Academy. This is why he says that MM today destroyed motorcycle racing (a pinch of salt with the translation from Italian to English). Similar issues are at play with the decline of participation by young people in American Football in the USA and Rugby in NZ and Australia, due to the overtly physically damaging nature of the sports.

I am about to start coaching an 11 year old into Red Bull Rookies Cup and Asia Talent Cup and when his parents see this sort of stuff, they are going to being questioning the correctness of their choices.

MM's moves today were OTT.

I don't know how close you have been to MotoGP bikes (I know you have been to events), but I have been 20m away from them at Estoril as they come up the hill and down to the infield left (cos the paddock fence is that close to the track). I know how fucking fast those things are. You really could not focus on them as they went past. We here think perhaps that our NZSBK Superbikes are fast. Fuck me, they are nothing in comparison. I am not criticizing, just trying to give other readers an idea of just how fucking fast these guys are going. The TV, because of the angles and the tracking, gives you absolutely no idea of the speeds involved. And no idea what can happen to a rider if shit happens at those speeds.
Yes, I am a VR fan. I love Italians more than Spanish (one might even turn for Mattia!! LOL), so sue me (actually a mate of mine is a mate of Vale's, and Dovi's, so 2 degrees of separation and all that) and after watching the MM doco one is even inclined to like him too.
But today was uncalled for, totally.
The first collision, OK, he is going hard and wants the spot. Zarco had the same sort of issue with Pedrosa (really shit for Pedrosa. Really hope he is OK as he landed flush on his head), but there were no more after that. But MM, after the first one? Calm the fuck down bro!
Old Mike Webb is probably still awake dealing with the SNAFU.

[steveyb]

MM should have been sent to pit lane for the start.That whole starting thing was a complete fiasco.everyone but Jack should have been disqualified.They left the grid!
MM absolutely lost the plot after the ride through.And in some ways you cant blame him.As I said they should have forced him to start from the pit lane.

i may have missed it but did they declare the race a dry race AFTER they had already said it was a wet race.IS that why they all left the grid?

Have to agree.
I think that race direction were just a bit overwhelmed.
They did not want to have the same situation as Sachsenring a couple years back with all the riders, bar Jackass, starting from pitlane, which was what needed to happen.
But can you imagine 21 riders starting from pitlane all at once?
The wording of the rules might be interesting in this situation.
The race was declared Wet. It cannot be then declared Dry.
Therefore, it was up to the riders to enter pitlane once the white flags were shown (pitlane open) should they decide to, AFTER the race had started, or change tyres and set up on the grid prior to the race start, like Pramac Ducati did.
I think that by removing bikes the teams were gaming it. And they won by doing so, which is a pity.
It is also a pity that they were at this track, due to the proximity of the final corner to the start grid.
At other circuits they may have been able to form the grid after the last row of the original grid, ie start from the back of the grid. But here, it would seem, the last riders might have been in the last corner, so the first row of the new grid was a lot closer to Jack than it should have been, or something like that anyway.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I dunno Pete, I think you might be losing a little sight of the real ethos of motorbike racing here.
We (you and me and others) have not raced at the pointy end of road racing in some time, but I can guarantee you that if someone were riding like MM did today against us we would not have had a spew to the press. We would have presented him with a knuckle sandwich good and proper.
We all traded paint and all that, but on 250 Proddy bikes bro, not MotoGP bikes.

.

You know what I think Steve? I think you're full of shit. Because your such a Rossi fan, you're blinkers cloud your judgment of what's ok, and what's not. The Rossi fans (yes you Steve) love it when he dare go beyond what is reasonable, safe and yes, fair. But you all squeal like little bitches when your man get's handed his arse to him like you cheered for him doing so when he was king.

It doesn't matter if you're racing 250 proddie (don't remember locking horns with you back then, so can't comment), 125 moto-x or 883 fucking Harleys. Racing is racing, fair is fair, mistakes get made, people get a rush of blood to the head. Is your memory really that bad Steve? If MM had locked the front tyre (you know. like Rossi did getting in 50kph too hot on Stoner) and skittled Rossi...would that then, by your definition be ok? Seriously? MM got in too hot, yes. But he neither skittled him, nor picked it up mid corner to purposely run Rossi off track. (you know, like Rossi did the MMis Sepang!)

So take your fucking blinkers off. And if you train racers to think like that...retire.

[onearmedbandit]

What a race. Here's my take.

What race direction did was probably the best option they had for the sudden event of almost every bike leaving the grid. Maybe a better option would be to hit any rider leaving the grid to change bikes etc suffers a time penalty added to their race time. Just an idea.

Marquez huh? Well it seems he ignored a race officials instruction to go to the pit lane and also rode in the wrong direction. He's a professional rider, even an amateur club day rider knows you can not ride in the opposite direction. Or ignore those in charge of the race. Still he got his penalty for that so done and dusted. His two most noticeable indiscretions otherwise were in my humble none racer opinion unnecessary. He was obviously faster on the day than both riders and could've easily taken them cleanly. Had they been battling for laps and matching each other than maybe a little more understandable. But they weren't. And I'll state here and now that I didn't agree with VR's similar moves in the past either. I want to see him win yes, but with clean smart riding. I don't like to see anyone gain an advantage by being a cunt.

Would've loved to see JM get the win, but things didn't go his way. Rins was amazing and outclassed his team mate again. Great win to Cal though, never upset to see him take a win.

A controversial race for many reasons but that's part of the reason we love this sport. It's the best drama on TV.

Oh one other thing, the gay slurs are a little 1980's aren't they Pete? :buggerd:

[onearmedbandit]

Y If MM had locked the front tyre (you know. like Rossi did getting in 50kph too hot on Stoner) and skittled Rossi...would that then, by your definition be ok? Seriously? MM got in too hot, yes. But he neither skittled him, nor picked it up mid corner to purposely run Rossi off track. (you know, like Rossi did the MMis Sepang!)

So take your fucking blinkers off. And if you train racers to think like that...retire.

Do you mean this incident?

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[carbonhed]

There's a lot of whining about "oh but the bikes are so fast and think of the poor children... blah blah blah"

Anybody else remember Rossi's little trick on Pedrosa at Aragon? Down the back straight at 300kph, pushed him to the paint? And when Pedrosa complained the cocksmokers response...

“You know, if he's not happy, Pedrosa, [he] has to race alone I think,” Rossi said. “This is what I think.

“Because everybody make the same to me when I want to overtake, especially on the last lap. But sincerely exit of [Turn] 14, you always go to the left.

“Maybe I go one metre more... so, I don't know, maybe these riders think that they own the track.”

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-pedrosa-aragon-feud-957337/

[Autech]

There's a lot of whining about "oh but the bikes are so fast and think of the poor children... blah blah blah"

Anybody else remember Rossi's little trick on Pedrosa at Aragon? Down the back straight at 300kph, pushed him to the paint? And when Pedrosa complained the cocksmokers response...

“You know, if he's not happy, Pedrosa, [he] has to race alone I think,” Rossi said. “This is what I think.

“Because everybody make the same to me when I want to overtake, especially on the last lap. But sincerely exit of [Turn] 14, you always go to the left.

“Maybe I go one metre more... so, I don't know, maybe these riders think that they own the track.”

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-pedrosa-aragon-feud-957337/Yup n thats way more dangerous...

My main concern with the penalties handed to MM was the inconsistency from race direction. Other similar incidents went unpunished, don't envy them their job one bit!

I don't give a fuck what Rossi or MM are saying to the press, they can go shake hands like real men and move on, this isn't F1.

Pedrosa has hurt his wrist, here's hoping this doesn't impact his title hopes this year yet again.

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[Dadpole]

If I find anyone moaning about Coronation St not being on, I will point them to this thread. :shake:

In case anyone missed it, there was a good race at the front.

[pritch]

Plus it was fucking impossible to get information.

Ah yes. Occasionally when viewing a GP live I recall how when I first got into bikes we had to wait three months for a magazine with a few b&w pics. It's only in recent years I learned what colour some of the bikes were painted back then, others I still don't know.

Among all the ranting and raving by one-eyed fans there is this from PecinoGP who is rated by David Emmett as one of the best in the business. http://pecinogp.com/no-marc-there-was-no-need/


The two people who I feel sorry for in all the kerfuffle are Cal Crutchlow who won the race and, however briefly, is leading the world championship but is being almost totally ignored. And Jack Miller who was robbed of the benefit of his tyre choice.

Ezpeleta says matters arising from the incidents on Sunday will be discussed at the Safety Commission meeting in Texas. They could sell tickets to that.:devil2:

[Mental Trousers]

Looked to me like Puig marched Marquez down to Rossi's garage, otherwise Marquez wouldn't have done anything.

But I love watching Rossi fan's after something like that. Talk about tears.

Puig said exactly the opposite in his interview... seemed pretty straightforward and upfront about it.

Oh, I didn't see that. I'll have to go and watch some of the after race interviews etc, I was too busy laughing and trying to calm my wife down (she wanted to disqualify most of the field at the start of the race lol).

[merv]

Do you mean this incident?

Rossi wasn't even penalised for that IIRC and to make matters worse the marshals got him and his bike push started first and only vaguely tried to help Stoner who never got going again in the end. Rossi has always been the privileged one and as crasher says he has taken to whining now that things aren't always going his way.

As for this latest start, one interpretation could be that technically they moved the pit lane out to the back of the grid if the rules only allowed for the start from pitlane, so maybe it was okay for MM to loop to the back.

[pritch]

and to make matters worse the marshals got him and his bike push started first and only vaguely tried to help Stoner who never got going again in the end.

Not quite, Rossi was pinned under his bike and as such was the priority for the marshals.

[Mental Trousers]

Among all the ranting and raving by one-eyed fans there is this from PecinoGP who is rated by David Emmett as one of the best in the business. http://pecinogp.com/no-marc-there-was-no-need/

That's a pretty good write up and he's right, there was definitely a lack of respect shown.


The two people who I feel sorry for in all the kerfuffle are Cal Crutchlow who won the race and, however briefly, is leading the world championship but is being almost totally ignored. And Jack Miller who was robbed of the benefit of his tyre choice.

It was the same last time around, Dani Pedrosa won and mostly got ignored. That was a complete lack of respect from the press, all they wanted to talk about was Rossi/Marquez.


Ezpeleta says matters arising from the incidents on Sunday will be discussed at the Safety Commission meeting in Texas. They could sell tickets to that.:devil2:

That's going to be one of the best attended Safety Commission meetings for a while. Shame they don't allow cameras in there.

[ellipsis]

...did anyone watch the five at the pointy end put on a fantastic bit of racing while all the big knobs were the length of the straight behind them...what about the new boy from Malaysia?, Syrahin?...fucking fantastic...

[EJK]

...did anyone watch the five at the pointy end put on a fantastic bit of racing while all the big knobs were the length of the straight behind them...what about the new boy from Malaysia?, Syrahin?...fucking fantastic...

Sure did show a good performance! He can go home this week and say he finished 42 seconds ahead of 3 times World Champion on a factory team.

[Mental Trousers]

...did anyone watch the five at the pointy end put on a fantastic bit of racing while all the big knobs were the length of the straight behind them...what about the new boy from Malaysia?, Syrahin?...fucking fantastic...

Herve has the touch it seems, he can pick em.

[merv]

Not quite, Rossi was pinned under his bike and as such was the priority for the marshals.

.. and if they were both pinned under their bikes who do you think they would have helped first anyway even though Rossi was the one that made the mistake?

[rustys]

Just watched recorded Moto GP last night.
What a friggen joke :stupid: Moto GP is becoming, just like our MNZ. Jack Miller was robbed he clearly took the gamble on slicks , the race had been declared WET, the other teams had made their call, to late, Pit lane was ClOSED, the race should have started with all on the grid, then once the White flag was showen for PIT Lane OPEN then and only then could the riders come in and do the change, just like its always been, Millar and Morbidelli would have romped away with possibly the win, changing rules to suit others is a joke and calling it a saftey issue is beyond me, race control needs their arse kicked. Now that Dorna own WSB are we going to see simalar happen. Dont won't to mention MM :sick:.

[Autech]

...did anyone watch the five at the pointy end put on a fantastic bit of racing while all the big knobs were the length of the straight behind them...what about the new boy from Malaysia?, Syrahin?...fucking fantastic...Yeah some good results amongst the carnage. Unfortunately I was screaming at the TV for Crutchlow/Miller/Rins to beat the Dirty French *insert expletive here* most the race so missed most of the results at the end as I had to fuck off for work as they crossed the line.

Rins is going to be head hunted soon I think, I just hope he has the smarts to stick with Suzuki as that bike looks fully competitive.

Considering the very limited time Syarin has had on the bike he's making great progress.

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[carbonhed]

Weird that Miller is behaving with the most grace and maturity of the whole grid. Didn't see that coming but good on him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Do you mean this incident?

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Yep! Now answer me this. What penalty did Rossi get? Points for 5th place I think from memory? Stoner? Left on the side of the track for no points. Now Laguna Seca 2010 I think it was. Rossi cutting the track, running into the side of Stoner. Penalty? The race win after he brake checked Stoner. Penalty? 25 points for the win. So you see, I think it's a bit rich for Rossi himself to be moaning. And another thing for the haters. Anyone that's been round a while watching this sport, may well (they'll certainly remember it if they did see it) remember the first race back at Phillip Island on the 500's. Four riders trading paint and getting rubber marks all over their leathers. It's always been hailed as one of the greatest races ever (actually, PI was like that last years as well). So what the fuck has happened between then and now? I'll tell ya. A guy a lot hate, is beating up on a guy most love, and when the shoe is on the other foot, they simply don't like it. As for Rossi rarking up the officials and basically the whole world...how many body guards do you think MM will need in Italy? Is that really where we want the sport to go? Is that cool? Not even. He knows how much clout he has.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just watched recorded Moto GP last night.
What a friggen joke :stupid: Moto GP is becoming, just like our MNZ. Jack Miller was robbed he clearly took the gamble on slicks , the race had been declared WET, the other teams had made their call, to late, Pit lane was ClOSED, the race should have started with all on the grid, then once the White flag was showen for PIT Lane OPEN then and only then could the riders come in and do the change, just like its always been, Millar and Morbidelli would have romped away with the win, changing rules to suit others is a joke and calling it a saftey issue is beyond me, race control needs their arse kicked. Now that Dorna own WSB are we going to see simalar happen. .

I'd have to agree regarding Miller. If you had money on him at the TAB you'd have every right to feel pretty ripped off too. Not sure he would've won, but he prob would've had a very good chance of it. I wouldn't want old Oscars mates job right now.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This guy knows a wee bit.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2018/04/09/termas-clash-repsol-honda-s-alberto-puig-s-point-of-view/254957

[pritch]

Brief but interesting comments by Ezpeleta. He referred to the start chaos being handled by the stewards and was quick to point out that Dorna no longer appoint the stewards. The stewards are nominated by the FIM and the IRTA. It may be that Race Direction are taking some flak unjustly.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This is a couple of screen grabs, from MM's view coming into the pass. If you have a motoGP.com pass, watch the clip. From where MM is, I'd try and drive a bus through that gap. Diff angles always give you a diff insight. He was on a mission, and sorry, I can't blame him for going for that gap.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

There's your problem..... its spitting rain and the track is damp. They should have done what any sensible person would do and park it and have a cup of tea!

[edit]..............and I am not sure that helps your cause. Rossi is on a wider line and has started his turn. Marquez is coming up the inside (with a major speed differential as can be seen from the telly). The onus is on Marquez to overtake safely. He didnt. He got into it too hot and pushed Rossi wide. At best reckless, at worst deliberate. My view hasnt changed one bit. He tried to fuck him deliberately - and pointlessly.

[rustys]

Being a Yamaha fan I have always followed Rossi, at times he has been a little agressive himself, and he's been a big boost to the sport, but perhaps things are getting a little personal in the game now, just hope it all dos'nt cause a loss of life along the way, that i don't want to see happen.
https://youtu.be/_2DiV26-jqs

[Crasherfromwayback]

. My view hasnt changed one bit. He tried to fuck him deliberately - and pointlessly.

I don't believe that for a minute sorry. And being a lawyer, you'll know the correct meaning of deliberate. THIS is deliberate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2DiV26-jqs&feature=youtu.be

[HenryDorsetCase]

I don't believe that for a minute sorry.

lets agree to disagree, and talk about Kenny Roberts v Freddie Spencer for a bit. Verrrrry similar situations actually: the young thruster vs the old hand, the fakeouts, the psychology, the bike differences - and of course the tyre differences.

In Freddie's book he says that Kenny tried to fake him out. He sat up at the end of the straight as if he was going to brake but he didnt brake..... so Freddie didnt either. They were both adopting the "see god then brake" mentality made famous by my boy Kevin Schwantz. Freddie held it together, Kenny went off - then bitched about it for 30 years. The big difference is it was the last race of the season and last corner of the last lap.... and they were racing for the world championship. Thats the big difference here. Here it didnt matter. Not really.

Allegedly they have made up now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Swedish_motorcycle_Grand_Prix

[Crasherfromwayback]

lets agree to disagree, and talk about Kenny Roberts v Freddie Spencer for a bit. Verrrrry similar situations actually: the young thruster vs the old hand, the fakeouts, the psychology, the bike differences - and of course the tyre differences.

In Freddie's book he says that Kenny tried to fake him out. He sat up at the end of the straight as if he was going to brake but he didnt brake..... so Freddie didnt either. They were both adopting the "see god then brake" mentality made famous by my boy Kevin Schwantz. Freddie held it together, Kenny went off - then bitched about it for 30 years. The big difference is it was the last race of the season and last corner of the last lap.... and they were racing for the world championship. Thats the big difference here. Here it didnt matter. Not really.

Allegedly they have made up now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Swedish_motorcycle_Grand_Prix

No. It's best if we keep going until you admit you're a knob! :lol: But yeah, I doubt Kenny was the sort of guy to forgive and forget too quickly. I'm just hoping this season doesn't get out of hand safety wise for MM, not the racing. A lot of Italians are gonna bed in a total state of rage!

[T.W.R]

This is a couple of screen grabs, from MM's view coming into the pass. If you have a motoGP.com pass, watch the clip. From where MM is, I'd try and drive a bus through that gap. Diff angles always give you a diff insight. He was on a mission, and sorry, I can't blame him for going for that gap.


Actually Pete from your screen shots and this clip of the event Rossi had the racing line and Marquez didn't, if it was MX sure VR had a door open so big you could've put a truck through it..slam it in, point & squirt and there was enough room for a few bikes to tuck under him; but there in that instance MM was in to hot for the line



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOgiaL1P1k

[Crasherfromwayback]

Actually Pete from your screen shots and this clip of the event Rossi had the racing line and Marquez didn't, if it was MX sure VR had a door open so big you could've put a truck through it..slam it in, point & squirt and there was enough room for a few bikes to tuck under him; but there in that instance MM was in to hot for the line
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We'll never agree on that, and that's cool! But many a door has been kicked in before, and many by Rossi himself.

On another note...here's the new Cycleworld mag spoken about a bit earlier. I quite like it.

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[T.W.R]

We'll never agree on that, and that's cool! But many a door has been kicked in before, and many by Rossi himself.

On another note...here's the new Cycleworld mag spoken about a bit earlier. I quite like it.

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Yeah exactly, even the clip you put up of the prior incident proves that. VR is no angel by any means and realistically none of them are for dubious tactics but personally I think VR's reaction & comments of it are OTT and MM tried being the bigger man by attempting to place an apology. Another couple of feet on the outside of the corner and VR wouldn't have tucked the front under on the grass and the following few laps would've been fun ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Another couple of feet on the outside of the corner and VR wouldn't have tucked the front under on the grass and the following few laps would've been fun ;)

And with all due respect to the Old Dog, trying to turn back on track so quickly on wet grass was only ever gonna end one way.

[carbonhed]

And with all due respect to the Old Dog, trying to turn back on track so quickly on wet grass was only ever gonna end one way.

I think he lost the front a bit about a metre out and that pushed him out wider... but this is the guy that got tapped at Assen and stood it up rocketed across the gravel trap and won... got tapped by Zarco at Austin stood it up rocketed across the infield and gained about ten bike lengths... here he just lamely flops over when he could have stood it up and trundled back on track... my darkest suspicions are that it's like the soccer player diving and writhing around trying to milk a penalty... but then that's my feeling about the "integrity" of Rossi and his butt buddies.

Edited to add... mind you Marquez was really fucking rude punting him off like a bitch and Rossi really doesn't like being dissed. 2015 really kicked off after Lorenzo started saying he was a slow tinarse who was only leading the championship because the weather kept crapping out on Sundays.

[merv]

Actually Pete from your screen shots and this clip of the event Rossi had the racing line and Marquez didn't, if it was MX sure VR had a door open so big you could've put a truck through it..slam it in, point & squirt and there was enough room for a few bikes to tuck under him; but there in that instance MM was in to hot for the line



The gap Rossi left there is so big it is hard to imagine there is a rider in MotoGP that wouldn't have gone for that gap if they had the speed to do it like MM did. Rossi himself would have, Dovi would have and Zarco would have I am sure.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The gap Rossi left there is so big it is hard to imagine there is a rider in MotoGP that wouldn't have gone for that gap if they had the speed to do it like MM did. Rossi himself would have, Dovi would have and Zarco would have I am sure.

No Merv! Even though that gap is around ten times larger than the gap left by Gibernau on the last corner of the last lap at his home GP...that Rossi took, that caused Gibernau to run off track. It's NOT ok for MM to go for it!!!

But yeah. Any racer I've raced with would've if it was me that'd given them that invitation, and I'd think it odd if they didn't.

[T.W.R]

The gap Rossi left there is so big it is hard to imagine there is a rider in MotoGP that wouldn't have gone for that gap if they had the speed to do it like MM did. Rossi himself would have, Dovi would have and Zarco would have I am sure.

True but in that scenario how often do you see the rider who left the door open come back under the other on the exit mmm? carrying the speed into the corner doesn't mean that speed is still there when it's necessary....they're all guilty of being sucked into that trap :msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I dunno Pete, I think you might be losing a little sight of the real ethos of motorbike racing here.



MM's moves today were OTT.

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So I guess you'll be using this as an example of good sportsmanship for your 11 year olds Steve?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/let-the-first-stone-be-thrown-by-the-one-among-you-who-has-not-sinned-jesus/

[onearmedbandit]

So I guess you'll be using this as an example of good sportsmanship for your 11 year olds Steve?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/let-the-first-stone-be-thrown-by-the-one-among-you-who-has-not-sinned-jesus/

Poor Rossi, had the line all day long and Sete just turned in on him...

[HenryDorsetCase]

So I guess you'll be using this as an example of good sportsmanship for your 11 year olds Steve?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/let-the-first-stone-be-thrown-by-the-one-among-you-who-has-not-sinned-jesus/

11 year olds watching racing from before they were born? they wont give a fuck.

[pritch]

my darkest suspicions are that it's like the soccer player diving and writhing around trying to milk a penalty... but then that's my feeling about the "integrity" of Rossi and his butt buddies.



Well that is really special. that equals the craziest shit that I've read on the matter. I once crashed a bike on wet grass and the thought ocurred that maybe Rossi could have recovered from that situation. It turns out though that if you are leaning and turning on wet grass you are probably crashing whoever you are.

And the silliness is not restricted to KB. Currently there is a war of words on Twitter, to the level of "you are fucking stupid" between riders ESA and Simeon. A team manager briefly joined the fray too. Funny that the protagonists are Spanish, but most of the argument is in English. Some of the bystanders are possibly using bad language in Spanish though.


Note: It may be that the use of English is because Petrucci is the target of some of ESA's ire and that's their common language.

[ellipsis]

Well that is really special. that equals the craziest shit that I've read on the matter. I once crashed a bike on wet grass and though maybe Rossi could have recovered from that situation. It turns out though that if you are leaning and turning on wet grass you are probably crashing whoever you are.

And the silliness is not restricted to KB. Currently there is a war of words on Twitter, to the level of "you are fucking stupid" between ESA and Simeon. A team manager briefly joined the fray too. Funny that the protagonists are Spanish, but most of the argument is in English. Some of the bystanders are possibly using bad language in Spanish though.

...this wank is full of shit most of the time...I remember his absolute :love: of Jorge Lorenzo and his absolute faith that he would keep on winning and smash everyone forever...shades of us fan-bois, but bitter...fuckwit...

...I do enjoy Crasher's blind belligerence, though... it's entertaining...

[merv]

So I guess you'll be using this as an example of good sportsmanship for your 11 year olds Steve?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/let-the-first-stone-be-thrown-by-the-one-among-you-who-has-not-sinned-jesus/

No question, Rossi is a hypocrite. He would have called that fair racing because he was the one dishing it out, but can't take it the other way.

[Autech]

Twitter argument is hilarious.

Love ESA he doesn't give too many fucks, guy may not have won any races but he's hot property when it comes to riding the fuck out of a shitty bike.

Pedrosa reported to be in surgery for his fractured wrist, Zarco better be there in the recovery room with a box of Roses and an Gallic shrug.
Going to be super fucked off if Dani doesn't make the grid at COTA, he's quietly on some very good form at the moment and could give MM a good run as he's done a few times there. Someone has to beat him there! That and any races missed now means no championship challenge this year...

[Badjelly]

...Zarco better be there in the recovery room with a box of Roses and an Gallic shrug....

:lol::lol::lol::lol: The Gallic shrug is not normally considered a sympathetic gesture. I think a man hug would be more appropriate.

[pritch]

Pedrosa reported to be in surgery for his fractured wrist, Zarco better be there in the recovery room with a box of Roses and an Gallic shrug.


That was the first discussion I saw this morning, who will take Pedro's ride? One suggestion was Aoyama, but apparently he is management now. Next choice, and probably most likely, is Bradl who is currently a Honda test rider.

On what is being called the "Termas incident", this from Neil Morrison. http://ontrackoffroad.com/2018/04/10/blinded-by-pride/

[carbonhed]

Well that is really special. that equals the craziest shit that I've read on the matter. I once crashed a bike on wet grass and the thought ocurred that maybe Rossi could have recovered from that situation. It turns out though that if you are leaning and turning on wet grass you are probably crashing whoever you are.



:lol: Always at the sharp end! Just seemed an incredibly lame way to fall off for someone who's supposed to be the goat (note lowercase letters).

[Crasherfromwayback]

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...I do enjoy Crasher's blind belligerence, though... it's entertaining...

Thanks! I'm having a great old time!

[pritch]

And now another comment from a bloke who is more qualified to comment than most.

http://www.motogp.com/en/in+the+media/2018/04/10/agostini-marquez-shouldn-t-be-disqualified/255062

[Drew]

Fucken hell. This is hilarious.

[jasonu]

Fucken hell. This is hilarious.

It's the first MotoGP race I have seen more or less live for 6 years. I sure picked a good one!

[EJK]

And now another comment from a bloke who is more qualified to comment than most.

http://www.motogp.com/en/in+the+media/2018/04/10/agostini-marquez-shouldn-t-be-disqualified/255062

Pfft... What would that old guy know?

[Drew]

It's the first MotoGP race I have seen more or less live for 6 years. I sure picked a good one!

The cock measuring here is almost as entertaining.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The cock measuring here is almost as entertaining.

I was gonna ask why you haven't joined in....but I think I know the answer.

[onearmedbandit]

The cock measuring here is almost as entertaining.


I was gonna ask why you haven't joined in....but I think I know the answer.

You two are so cute together.

[pritch]

I was gonna ask why you haven't joined in....but I think I know the answer.

I needed a laugh, thanks for that. Gotta share the love but.

[Drew]

I was gonna ask why you haven't joined in....but I think I know the answer.

Cool story.

[husaberg]

No idea if this has been posted but maybe time to reach out a bit to Yamaha George.
https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/134365/ducati-lorenzo-faces-a-pay-cut-in-next-deal

[Drew]

No idea if this has been posted but maybe time to reach out a bit to Yamaha George.
https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/134365/ducati-lorenzo-faces-a-pay-cut-in-next-deal
Couldn't see Yamaha taking him back on. Suzuki on the other hand...

[husaberg]

Couldn't see Yamaha taking him back on. Suzuki on the other hand...
Rossi cant ride forever........ then again they may not want him. but they forgave Rossi so why not poor George.
Imagine how great it would look for Yamaha if he was able to do instantly well with Yamaha again.....

[Drew]

Rossi cant ride forever........ then again they may not want him. but they forgave Rossi so why not poor George.
Imagine how great it would look for Yamaha if he was able to do instantly well with Yamaha again.....
Rossi is signed till 2021, and I imagine the French guy is in line for the next factory seat.

Suzuki will drop Ianoni first chance they get.

[husaberg]

Rossi is signed till 2021, and I imagine the French guy is in line for the next factory seat.

Suzuki will drop Ianoni first chance they get.

The thing is unless Rossi does well I cant see him wanting to be continuing till then.
Although I don't like George he is a one dimensional rider ,only really well suited to pushing the front, which is something he can only do when he has a bike he can do that on.
I consider him much like luca cadalora in that when his mind is right and the bike is to his liking he's pretty much unbeatable.
I cant see him being able to do that with a Suzuki.
Yamaha have stagnated while Honda copied the line of development Yamaha had done under Burgess and Rossi have gone and built a better Yamaha.

[pritch]

That is what was pretty much understood. What is apparent is that George will be offered but a fraction of what he was offered previously. Dovi has already said he wants Ducati to show that he is appreciated, he wants a bigger base salary and less of his money coming from performance bonuses. Possibly to encourage Ducati to loosen the purse strings he has reportedly been talking to Honda.

George's price really was a one off, so it isn't very likely that Ducati will just add George's and Dovi's current pay and divide the total by two. Whatever they do it's hard to see George being happy.

I begin to understand why Rossi has signed earlier than he had previously said he would.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The cock measuring here is almost as entertaining.


Cool story.

Not nearly as cool as your story Bro. Drew Mair, telling people they're involved in a cock measuring contest. If you weren't so fucking thick, you'd have seen the irony in that well before you posted it, trying to be cool. But alas...

[pritch]

David Emmett has just quoted a report that Suzuki are trying to sign Lorenzo to replace Iannone.

Another one of those unsurprising news items.

[Drew]

Not nearly as cool as your story Bro. Drew Mair, telling people they're involved in a cock measuring contest. If you weren't so fucking thick, you'd have seen the irony in that well before you posted it, trying to be cool. But alas...Cool story.

[Crasherfromwayback]

David Emmett has just quoted a report that Suzuki are trying to sign Lorenzo to replace Iannone.

Another one of those unsurprising news items.

Jesus. I agree with this chap.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/ryder-notes-dont-cry-for-me/

[Dadpole]

Just to add more ingredients to the pot - https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/893417/1/espargaro-blasts-pramac-contact-statement :laugh:

It includes the statement 'Danilo Petrucci himself was touched by Syahrin on the last lap'. What were they doing out there?

[jasonu]

The cock measuring here is almost as entertaining.

True........

[HenryDorsetCase]

True........

Mine's the biggest. also the most girth-y.

[Drew]

Mine's the biggest. also the most girth-y.

Hmmm. Girth...esk

Girth...ish

They all sound wrong.

[Mental Trousers]

Mine's the biggest. also the most girth-y.

As far as the ePenis on this site goes the guys with the red names are tripods

[Drew]

As far as the ePenis on this site goes the guys with the red names are tripods

How do I get that?

[onearmedbandit]

How do I get that?

Cut both your legs off just below the hip...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cut both your legs off just below the hip...

Game, set and match.

[husaberg]

How do I get that?
Learn a heap of computer skills then go work for spankme for free porn.

[Drew]

Learn a heap of computer skill then go work for spankme for free.

Ah. That's not worth it.

[husaberg]

Ah. That's not worth it.
336159........

[actungbaby]

This is a couple of screen grabs, from MM's view coming into the pass. If you have a motoGP.com pass, watch the clip. From where MM is, I'd try and drive a bus through that gap. Diff angles always give you a diff insight. He was on a mission, and sorry, I can't blame him for going for that gap.

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Yep i saw that too . After reading mm explanation and team manager .
Am only arm chair fan . To me fair to say it was a racing error.
Pity they dont sort it themselves.
Bit of a circus . Thought lyn javis . Chould talked to mm team manager.
At least heard him out. That whould have been showing people right attitude . Okay guys human he was pissed of too . But like most things better not act in haste . Its a pity so much money in this sport got so political .u whould think sponsors. Teams . Whould want team managers sit there riders down say . Come on take clill pill both of u .
Perhaps teams should be ones to face the music . Perhaps with points takin of team champs. Then be up to them to as in mm startline issue to send message or signal him to pit.
I didint like Rossi attitude either for saying he scared come on i dont belive it. I think just playing games.
Dp just had op wrist pinned . He not screaming about zarco .i think should move on . Quit the bs .
Its a pity though seems the joking around and friends act was only on surface . One incident and all forgoteen. On postive great to see
Cc and rins and jm and esp ,rookie on
The yam do so well .


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[actungbaby]

lets agree to disagree, and talk about Kenny Roberts v Freddie Spencer for a bit. Verrrrry similar situations actually: the young thruster vs the old hand, the fakeouts, the psychology, the bike differences - and of course the tyre differences.

In Freddie's book he says that Kenny tried to fake him out. He sat up at the end of the straight as if he was going to brake but he didnt brake..... so Freddie didnt either. They were both adopting the "see god then brake" mentality made famous by my boy Kevin Schwantz. Freddie held it together, Kenny went off - then bitched about it for 30 years. The big difference is it was the last race of the season and last corner of the last lap.... and they were racing for the world championship. Thats the big difference here. Here it didnt matter. Not really.

Allegedly they have made up now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Swedish_motorcycle_Grand_Prix

Thats exellent point . Years latter . Warched or read i cant remember.
Kenny roberts said he was young hungry young racer . He should realised it chould happened . I surpose he meant he might used diffrent tatic.
Speaking of which . Is because the bikes and tires are so extreme. Read few books past champion racers . But seems not much . Out thinking gets done on last lap . Dovi seems to out smart mm .! 3 times know . Moto 3 and 2 u see it. Mind u racers in 60,s where able hold bit in reserve . Not show there hand in certain parts the track.
I hope mm calms down if this is him being carefull . Help them all


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[husaberg]

Thats exellent point . Years latter . Warched or read i cant remember.
Kenny roberts said he was young hungry young racer . He should realised it chould happened . I surpose he meant he might used diffrent tatic.
Speaking of which . Is because the bikes and tires are so extreme. Read few books past champion racers . But seems not much . Out thinking gets done on last lap . Dovi seems to out smart mm .! 3 times know . Moto 3 and 2 u see it. Mind u racers in 60,s where able hold bit in reserve . Not show there hand in certain parts the track.
I hope mm calms down if this is him being carefull . Help them all


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IMO This is the race that cost Kenny the 500 tittle in 83. (or the Yugoslavian one which I cant find video for)
If he had have finished on either ocassion one place higher, he would have been equal.
The only result that split Kenny and Freddie that year was Kenny had two fourths Freddie had only one and a third.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Grand_Prix_motorcycle_racing_season

https://youtu.be/yjzKU8osqA8

[merv]

Cool Husaberg, and Honda have won a few premier class constructor's titles since that first one.

[jasonu]

IMO This is the race that cost Kenny the 500 tittle in 83. (or the Yugoslavian one which I cant find video for)
If he had have finished on either ocassion one place higher, he would have been equal.
The only result that split Kenny and Freddie that year was Kenny had two fourths Freddie had only one and a third.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Grand_Prix_motorcycle_racing_season

https://youtu.be/yjzKU8osqA8

Great clip.
It took me to this one, hard out racing from the best looking and sounding race bikes ever and no one took anyone else out.

[actungbaby]

Great clip.
It took me to this one, hard out racing from the best looking and sounding race bikes ever and no one took anyone else out.

Thanks for that i remember reading about the races in either revs magizine or Aussie mcn
I had wait a few weeks sometimes u got two gps in one issue nice..
paw over ever detail u have to imagine race in your head ;-) i knew then this was the elite class.
I guess in a way it was the goldern era for me . i rent out the higlights from the video store .
And of course started buying the motorcourse books from 84 onwards ever year. i go to whitcalls. order the book in. around 100.00 bucks. that was trill when gotto open the pages or see they cover .with new 500cc champion. first i read the top ten for the year. look pics in the specs section.
i read ever word even the sidecars. that pic hewett going into the dike at holland . outfit sidways on the grass.
geez like crasher i had no idea what mst the people even looked like . well the team people.

[actungbaby]

Jesus. I agree with this chap.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/ryder-notes-dont-cry-for-me/

Jullian cracks me up that putin line genius right there .beutiflllll. imagine mm flying though the air after been struck by the metour ;-) rossi eyes red and glowing .

[jasonu]

Just watched round 1 race 2 of the Moto America super bike series. Tony Elias was fucking o for orsum, drifting, sliding crossing up in the wet.

[pritch]

Interesting line up for the upcoming press conference. Crutchlow is there as befits the championship leader, Zarco too, but no Marquez, no Rossi. A Spanish sidestep?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Interesting line up for the upcoming press conference. Crutchlow is there as befits the championship leader, Zarco too, but no Marquez, no Rossi. A Spanish sidestep?

"Cal Crutchlow the first Brit to lead the championship since 1979"

1979!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/newest-motogp-silly-season-rumor-lorenzo-to-suzuki/

[ecko_nzed]

Interesting line up for the upcoming press conference. Crutchlow is there as befits the championship leader, Zarco too, but no Marquez, no Rossi. A Spanish sidestep?Maybe they're trying to make Cal feel important after the press snubbed him in favour of Rossi/Marquez at the last post race press conference. I bet he ignores a bunch of them in return.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Maybe they're trying to make Cal feel important after the press snubbed him in favour of Rossi/Marquez at the last post race press conference. I bet he ignores a bunch of them in return.

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Good on 'em. I've never been a fan, but take my hat off to him. Don't mind being proven wrong, and he's done that. More at the front on a reg basis can hardly be a bad thing either right!

Will MM be able to keep his 100% record at Cota, or will the pressure of having to calm down a bit stunt him?

[carbonhed]

Will MM be able to keep his 100% record at Cota, or will the pressure of having to calm down a bit stunt him?

If I was a betting man.... I imagine he'll be looking to crush the living shit out of all the also ran pretenders to the throne... probably lap the entire field and punt Flossi and his trembling lower lip into the gravel to boot.

Can hardly wait.

[ecko_nzed]

Good on 'em. I've never been a fan, but take my hat off to him. Don't mind being proven wrong, and he's done that. More at the front on a reg basis can hardly be a bad thing either right!

Will MM be able to keep his 100% record at Cota, or will the pressure of having to calm down a bit stunt him?I reckon Marquez has been drinking too much of the Alzamora cool-ade and actually believes the shit he's told to say at press conferences. Reckon he'll dial it back a bit, cos you have to be smart to win championships, but will still go balls out

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[Dadpole]

I don't think the last race will have any effect at all on Marquez, I imagine he will steam off over the horizon as a demonstration of what he can do.

He is not a normal human. He has a self-belief that few of us could comprehend. He would view the last race as a minor wobble on the way to the title and normal service has resumed.

[pritch]

Austin would be a good race to go to. Never mind the racing unless you're a Honda fan, and I've owned a few, there is great barbecue and good music to be had as well.

Anyone thinking of going should be ceareful what they say on social media. They are turning all sorts away at the border.

[ecko_nzed]

Austin would be a good race to go to......Anyone thinking of going should be ceareful what they say on social media. They are turning all sorts away at the border.

'merica Fuck Yeah!

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[george formby]

I don't think the last race will have any effect at all on Marquez, I imagine he will steam off over the horizon as a demonstration of what he can do.

He is not a normal human. He has a self-belief that few of us could comprehend. He would view the last race as a minor wobble on the way to the title and normal service has resumed.

You only get to the top by dwelling on the positive. I should imagine their was much wailing and gnashing of teeth then a good hard look at lap times and performance as he carved through the field.

He will pull his head in and hit the grid with a point to reinforce.

Mind you, I bet a few riders can smell blood. Could be an entertaining race in anything can happen Motogp.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Austin would be a good race to go to. Never mind the racing unless you're a Honda fan, and I've owned a few, there is great barbecue and good music to be had as well.

Anyone thinking of going should be ceareful what they say on social media. They are turning all sorts away at the border.

Aye. I have a FB friend over there that keeps inviting me over. Might have to take her up one day.

[Mental Trousers]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/newest-motogp-silly-season-rumor-lorenzo-to-suzuki/

Wouldn't be a bad thing. Since Suzuki fixed the front end (the engine was pushing the front through the turn-in/middle transition and middle of the corner) it's looking like something that would suit Lorenzo very well. They might even be able to afford him after 2 years of shit results at Ducati.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wouldn't be a bad thing. Since Suzuki fixed the front end (the engine was pushing the front through the turn-in/middle transition and middle of the corner) it's looking like something that would suit Lorenzo very well. They might even be able to afford him after 2 years of shit results at Ducati.

Yep. I'd be all for it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Austin would be a good race to go to. Never mind the racing unless you're a Honda fan, and I've owned a few, there is great barbecue and good music to be had as well.

Anyone thinking of going should be ceareful what they say on social media. They are turning all sorts away at the border.

LOL yeah - land of the free and the home of the brave. Sure.

Americans are great. American gubblemunts and bureaucracy? Not so much.

[roogazza]

Yep. I'd be all for it.

336282

Here ya go Pete ,or have you already got them ? lol.

or For me, 336283

#93 for the win this weekend,but I do hope (please !) that Yamaha can get their Sushi sorted.

[Crasherfromwayback]

336282

Here ya go Pete ,or have you already got them ? lol.

or For me, []

#93 for the win this weekend,but I do hope (please !) that Yamaha can get their Sushi sorted.

Lol. Nah. I never buy their merchandise. I figure they earn enough as it is. Only thing I ever did buy, was a Wes Cooley Arai as a kid, but more so because I loved the colour scheme. This should be good watching!

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/04/18/rossi-and-marquez-live-debriefs-from-cota/255281

[HenryDorsetCase]

Lol. Nah. I never buy their merchandise. I figure they earn enough as it is. Only thing I ever did buy, was a Wes Cooley Arai as a kid, but more so because I loved the colour scheme. This should be good watching!

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/04/18/rossi-and-marquez-live-debriefs-from-cota/255281

Marquez will have his head pulled in so far he will be looking out through the eye of his penis.

He likely will still win, too :(

[Crasherfromwayback]

Marquez will have his head pulled in so far he will be looking out through the eye of his penis.

He likely will still win, too :(

Lol. I'm not willing to bet any money this weekend.

[Autech]

Lol. I'm not willing to bet any money this weekend.

What's the point with the return you get on him at $1.50?

Speaking of which TAB just hooked me up with a free $5, when Dani wins even though he is injured I'm going to walk away with a cool $126 :banana:

[Crasherfromwayback]

What's the point with the return you get on him at $1.50?

Speaking of which TAB just hooked me up with a free $5, when Dani wins even though he is injured I'm going to walk away with a cool $126 :banana:

Lol. Good luck with that.

[Autech]

Lol. Good luck with that.

Free $5 on a guy that has lead there a few times... Worth a crack

[Crasherfromwayback]

Free $5 on a guy that has lead there a few times... Worth a crack

Most def. But think it may be too physical a track with a recent wrist injury as tough as the lil fella is. Prob be better for him if it's wet, which it's looking like it might be. Good luck mate!

[Autech]

Most def. But think it may be too physical a track with a recent wrist injury as tough as the lil fella is. Prob be better for him if it's wet, which it's looking like it might be. Good luck mate!

Tell ya what if it happens I'll buy you a beer next time we are near each other

[pritch]

Speaking of which TAB just hooked me up with a free $5, when Dani wins even though he is injured I'm going to walk away with a cool $126 :banana:

Umm considering there was a photo of him and Dr Mir post op, Dani complete with plaster cast on his wrist and forearm?

[pritch]

I can't remember the exact quote but you'll get the drift. Jack Miller was asked what it felt like sitting alone on the grid. His reply was to the effect that it felt like he had farted and everyone had left.

The PR people haven't totally sanitised everyone yet.

[Autech]

Umm considering there was a photo of him and Dr Mir post op, Dani complete with plaster cast on his wrist and forearm?

He's a tough mofo so I'm hoping like heck he can get out there with some pain meds, then put it up the inside of Zarco really late in a corner to teach the arsehole a lesson.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Umm considering there was a photo of him and Dr Mir post op, Dani complete with plaster cast on his wrist and forearm?


He's a tough mofo so I'm hoping like heck he can get out there with some pain meds, then put it up the inside of Zarco really late in a corner to teach the arsehole a lesson.

For you mate.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/04/19/pedrosa-declared-fit/255370

[pritch]

For you mate.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/04/19/pedrosa-declared-fit/255370

Interesting. There's Pedro arse up and airborne - and they describe that as a "close call"?

[Autech]

Interesting. There's Pedro arse up and airborne - and they describe that as a "close call"?

Fuck that angle is the best view of how that dirty french fuck was never going to make that corner, cunt is nearly upright as he entered. And they penalised MM and not him? :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Lucky he didn't end Pedrosa's career right then and there. And his comment about how he thought he was faster than Dani so did a rough overtake when Dani was faster than him in almost all sessions. Rossi says MM doesn't respect the other riders but I think they have someone a bit worse among them these days.

Wanker.

But glad Dani is racing this weekend, though on such a physical track how well he will do remains to be seen.

Bring on the racing I say.

Edit: I also can't see how they say "Almost touched" looks like Zarco's knee hits Dani which caused him to try and prevent them both crashing, shame he didn't do a Rossi and try and stick with it so the dirty little snail eater went down with him.

[roogazza]

FP2 ... FP3 could be wet from what the sperts are saying ?

Pos. Num. Rider Bike Time Gap 1st Prev.
1 29 Andrea IANNONE Suzuki 2'04.599
2 93 Marc MARQUEZ Honda 2'04.655 0.056 0.056
3 25 Maverick VIÑALES Yamaha 2'04.863 0.264 0.208
4 46 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha 2'04.958 0.359 0.095
5 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda 2'05.088 0.489 0.130
6 42 Alex RINS Suzuki 2'05.452 0.853 0.364
7 99 Jorge LORENZO Ducati 2'05.487 0.888 0.035
8 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati 2'05.647 1.048 0.160
9 41 Aleix ESPARGARO Aprilia 2'05.739 1.140 0.092
10 26 Dani PEDROSA Honda 2'05.761 1.162 0.022
11 9 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati 2'05.889 1.290 0.128
12 53 Tito RABAT Ducati 2'05.910 1.311 0.021
13 5 Johann ZARCO Yamaha 2'05.933 1.334 0.023
14 43 Jack MILLER Ducati 2'06.016 1.417 0.083
15 45 Scott REDDING Aprilia 2'06.078 1.479 0.062
16 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN Yamaha 2'06.219 1.620 0.141
17 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI Honda 2'06.397 1.798 0.178
18 17 Karel ABRAHAM Ducati 2'06.555 1.956 0.158
19 12 Thomas LUTHI Honda 2'06.625 2.026 0.070
20 21 Franco MORBIDELLI Honda 2'06.640 2.041 0.015
21 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA Ducati 2'06.683 2.084 0.043
22 38 Bradley SMITH KTM 2'07.033 2.434 0.350
23 44 Pol ESPARGARO KTM 2'07.136 2.537 0.103
24 10 Xavier SIMEON Ducati 2'08.021 3.422 0.885
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[Dadpole]

The Lorenzo talk seems to have motivated Iannone. Funny that.

[pritch]

Wow! I just saw the result. Not many would have picked that - and it probably cheered Lorenzo up no end.

[EJK]

Where is Simon? Who is Amy?

[roogazza]

Where is Simon? Who is Amy?

is Amy the little chick that does the pit walk for BSB ??????

Simon might be taking classes :rolleyes: :lol:

[pritch]

Where is Simon? Who is Amy?

Amy Dargan, seated to the right here.

[ecko_nzed]

Where is Simon? Who is Amy?They said it was a logistical issue for Crafar, hence Amy filling in.

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[ecko_nzed]

I can't remember the exact quote but you'll get the drift. Jack Miller was asked what it felt like sitting alone on the grid. His reply was to the effect that it felt like he had farted and everyone had left.

The PR people haven't totally sanitised everyone yet.Thought it was interesting when the riders were asked about Randy Mamola being inducted into the hall of fame. Most of the riders said they welcomed it. Zarco said it undermined the others who had been inducted who had actually won premier class championships.

Gotta love the French [emoji849]

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Thought it was interesting when the riders were asked about Randy Mamola being inducted into the hall of fame. Most of the riders said they welcomed it. Zarco said it undermined the others who had been inducted who had actually won premier class championships.

Gotta love the French [emoji849]



Yeah. Doubt he'll win too many new fans with that comment.

[Dadpole]

I confess that the same thought crossed my mind when the Mamola news broke. It was when I recalled the things he had done other than race in GPs that I realised that winning a title is not the only measure needed. Imagine Danni Pedrosa being regarded as a loser because of no MotoGP title?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I confess that the same thought crossed my mind when the Mamola news broke. It was when I recalled the things he had done other than race in GPs that I realised that winning a title is not the only measure needed. Imagine Danni Pedrosa being regarded as a loser because of no MotoGP title?

Yep. And that Aaron Slight isn't a total legend!

[george formby]

I confess that the same thought crossed my mind when the Mamola news broke. It was when I recalled the things he had done other than race in GPs that I realised that winning a title is not the only measure needed. Imagine Danni Pedrosa being regarded as a loser because of no MotoGP title?

Totally agree, his contribution to the (epic) sport of Motogp is outstanding.

If winning was the parameter, we would just have a list of championship titles.

The pillion seater Mamola used to scare the crap out of people, was that a Cagiva?

Please don't judge me but I would be ok with getting that close to a man from behind for that experience.

[pritch]

A slightly dissenting view, it's not long since I was reading people questioning whether riders who only won a single title should be admitted. Now a guy with no titles? I'm with Zarco. Can't help feeling this was done 'cause the show just happens to be in the US of A.

Then again I've never forgiven him for what he did to Croz...

[roogazza]

Marc Marquez loses Austin MotoGP pole start

MotoGP
MotoGP desk22 Apr 2018
Marc Marquez demoted from pole position to fourth on the grid for the Austin MotoGP.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Marc Marquez loses Austin MotoGP pole start

MotoGP
MotoGP desk22 Apr 2018
Marc Marquez demoted from pole position to fourth on the grid for the Austin MotoGP. :rolleyes:

As far as I'm concerned, that's fucking bullshit. Who's to say MV was capable of a 2.43? He was never anywhere near close to being able to do so. Yep, MM got in his way. But hardly the first time some cunt has done so. Forget last round, that has nothing to do with this round. THIS, is what happens, when the tail starts wagging the dog. Nice work Rossi. After a huge effort to save a biff, he gets on bike number two, blows them into the fucking weeds, and gets penalized. Hope he makes them eat shit tomorrow.

1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 333.9 2'03.658
2 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 334.4 2'04.064 0.406 / 0.406
3 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 328.3 2'04.209 0.551 / 0.145
4 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 332.3 2'04.210 0.552 / 0.001
5 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 337.3 2'04.229 0.571 / 0.019
6 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 338.0 2'04.294 0.636 / 0.065
7 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 340.4 2'04.456 0.798 / 0.162
8 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 337.0 2'04.865 1.207 / 0.409
9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 335.1 2'04.963 1.305 / 0.098
10 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 336.9 2'05.058 1.400 / 0.095
11 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 329.6 2'05.260 1.602 / 0.202
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[george formby]

A slightly dissenting view, it's not long since I was reading people questioning whether riders who only won a single title should be admitted. Now a guy with no titles? I'm with Zarco. Can't help feeling this was done 'cause the show just happens to be in the US of A.

Then again I've never forgiven him for what he did to Croz...


:confused:
I can't decide on this one. An entertaining loser and great ambassador. I don't mean loser in a bad way, that's racing.

Zarco does (or did) do a lot for bike racing in France.
I think he's got the pip, worried he will forget how to do back flips.

[Dadpole]

Are you foaming at the mouth there Crasher? I fear it is true. The Golden Boy was slowly dragging his arse around on the racing line. Ban him I say. :corn:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are you foaming at the mouth there Crasher? I fear it is true. The Golden Boy was slowly dragging his arse around on the racing line. Ban him I say. :corn:

Far from foaming. But if you want to fuck a great sport, they're doing a great job of it. As it was, the front row was as it was always gonna be. What right does MV have to claim any fucking different? And how's putting a guy that was 1/2 sec faster than everyone else on the second row, behind guys he was faster than gonna help shit?

[roogazza]

Far from foaming. But if you want to fuck a great sport, they're doing a great job of it. As it was, the front row was as it was always gonna be. What right does MV have to claim any fucking different? And how's putting a guy that was 1/2 sec faster than everyone else on the second row, behind guys he was faster than gonna help shit?

Mate I don't doubt MM will carve thru tonight,bank on it .

I was up real early, crook, so watched WSB race and then a little of FP4, but all the Qual I missed.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate I don't doubt MM will carve thru tonight,bank on it .

I was up real early, crook, so watched WSB race and then a little of FP4, but all the Qual I missed.

Not really the point though mate.

Fuck me, I've been cook all week too. Don't think I've ever had it so bad. Hope you're better a soon!

[Dadpole]

"And how's putting a guy that was 1/2 sec faster than everyone else on the second row, behind guys he was faster than gonna help shit?"

The only did it to annoy you. I don't think it will slow the bugger down though. In my mind, the only places in dispute are 2nd and 3rd.

I hope you sick cases recover soon anyway. Gazza - Did you ride past my place and catch Ebola?

[pritch]

After a huge effort to save a biff, he gets on bike number two, blows them into the fucking weeds, and gets penalized. Hope he makes them eat shit tomorrow.


That wouldn't be a silly bet. His history at CoTA stands alone, barring a bin it's his to win.

[ecko_nzed]

I see that Pol Espargaro was also penalised 3 positions for some reason?

I'm assuming it was a incident in Q2 but haven't seen any footage of it.

As for Marquez, reckon it was fair. Just hope FIM stewards remain consistent

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[Crasherfromwayback]

As for Marquez, reckon it was fair. Just hope FIM stewards remain consistent



Because MM stopped MV getting pole? Despite MV having another completely clear lap, where he failed to get within half a second of MM?

[ecko_nzed]

Because MM stopped MV getting pole? Despite MV having another completely clear lap, where he failed to get within half a second of MM?No, because he impeded another rider by being racing line when coasting. Doesn't matter who he baulked, or how fast they were going.

If he did nothing wrong, why would he apologise? So he's in the wrong, I guess the new setup with race direction deciding if someone has done something then passing it to FIM to decide the punishment, means the riders are gonna have behave a bit better.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

No, because he impeded another rider by being racing line when coasting. Doesn't matter who he baulked, or how fast they were going.

If he did nothing wrong, why would he apologise? So he's in the wrong, I guess the new setup with race direction deciding if someone has done something then passing it to FIM to decide the punishment, means the riders are gonna have behave a bit better.



Good luck sanitizing the living fuck out of such a great sport. Don't cry with the end result though. F1 racing, with passing only ever done in the pits.

[eelracing]

Not really the point though mate!

Nor is your reasoning on point.

MM was clearly riding like a muppet on the racing line. He knows the rules or is he so arrogant that he thinks they don't apply to him.

He's under intense scrutiny now so his rivals have to take full opportunity from it and make themselves as wide as possible and block pass him until his head explodes again.
If not then Doohan levels of dominance will ensue.

Go Vinales.