Moto GP 2022 [Archive] - Page 4

Autech

28th September 2022, 12:12

Bloody good ride from Jack, he'll be dangerous in the next few rounds.

Brad Binder is a machine

Aleix is unlucky, sucks to see him struggling of late after such an epic year

Peco is a floofer, always liked him as a rider but if he fails to win the championship on such a superior machine to his rivals... Gummon Bags

Ai Ogura is a weapon, can't wait to see him in Motogp when he decides its time. Love seeing a home win

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george formby

28th September 2022, 15:52

Bloody good ride from Jack, he'll be dangerous in the next few rounds.

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I'm really looking forward to Phillip Island!

F5 Dave

28th September 2022, 16:11

So it rains in qualifying 2 known rain gods get better qualifying than usual.

Are things so close, and aero etc so influential on tyre pressure that who we see winning is largely who gets out front early?

What if on the day you ran 3 10 lap races with a rotating grid lineup.

I'd be thinking the end results would be quite different every time. FQ when out front is outstanding. But mid field he's cannon fodder if he can't progress. FB and EB kinda showed that too at least until the end.

Autech

28th September 2022, 19:22

I'm really looking forward to Phillip Island!

Been thinking about it, I think Maverick or Aleix will win at Phillip Island. If there's a track on the calendar that screams Aprilia its that one.

LESH GO!

F5 Dave

28th September 2022, 21:10

Fast, flowing, no real slow corners to have to accelerate out of. Its Yamahas best chance if FQ can get out front.

roogazza

29th September 2022, 10:18

Now that Rossi has moved on I've switched to #20 FQ as my main man.

Love his corner speed and talent and of course he peddles the Yamaha.

Go Yamaha, go Fabio !!!!!!:banana::banana:

F5 Dave

29th September 2022, 12:15

Oxley as always has a good insight into the events.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/super-typhoon-blows-bagnaias-motogp-title-plans-off-course

I still reckon my rolling grid experiment , if implausible for a championship, would be interesting to prove the effect, even if Bags kinda did.

Poor AE , would have been great to see if he could have raced Millar.

Grumph

29th September 2022, 12:26

I still reckon my rolling grid experiment , if implausible for a championship, would be interesting to prove the effect, even if Bags kinda did.
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Did you never watch the Alan Ramage Memorial races when they were held at the Timaru nationals ? 3 rows on the grid, 3 or 4 laps each race, each row takes a turn off the front. All on 250 proddy bikes. Mayhem and chaos - and some desperate riding. Made great watching.
I believe the club still does a memorial race but a different format now.

F5 Dave

29th September 2022, 17:19

Heck GPs used to be push start which could be stoopid.

Fishe up here invented a race where you had to do a couple of laps and come in, swap to a spare bike, everyone swaps, does a couple of laps with whatever the last guy jumped off. Hilarious.

Grumph

29th September 2022, 19:07

The Alan Ramage was deadly serious stuff. A trophy and I think actual money. All the names tried. Stroud, Slight, G Ramage, Hepburn, Anstey - all the gun 250 prod guys of the time.

iYRe

30th September 2022, 13:08

Interview with Jack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zi0__Vv0Ow

roogazza

2nd October 2022, 06:57

351749

Go #20.......World Champ.

Reckless

2nd October 2022, 11:10

351749

Go #20.......World Champ.

Looking brighter for him atm

With Aleix and Aprilia losing their way it seems (although he could surprise us today)

With Bastainini up Peccos butt making him more under pressure and also the Pramacs going really well here and Martin with a point to prove.
Fabio might prove that to many Dukes is more of a problem as not enough bikes on the grid when racers will to win gets factored in.

Be interesting tonight :niceone:

jato

2nd October 2022, 22:13

Exciting race! roll on Phillip Island...

iYRe

3rd October 2022, 09:32

Exciting race! roll on Phillip Island...

Go miller!

ALso:
MO: but it was in the wet..
JM: doesnt matter, bonus check is still the same colour

Classic heh
MM is still making that honda perform like it shouldnt, and even his little brother was up there for a bit..

Reckless

3rd October 2022, 10:32

Looking brighter for him atm

With Aleix and Aprilia losing their way it seems (although he could surprise us today)

With Bastainini up Peccos butt making him more under pressure and also the Pramacs going really well here and Martin with a point to prove.
Fabio might prove that to many Dukes is more of a problem as not enough bikes on the grid when racers will to win gets factored in.

Be interesting tonight :niceone:

Above Wrong wrong wrong LMAO Thats racing :eek:

But it was a damn good race!!

Imagine if Miller could win the championship now wouldn't that be an interesting twist :devil2::bleh::Police::shit::Punk:

iYRe

3rd October 2022, 10:43

Imagine if Miller could win the championship now wouldn't that be an interesting twist :devil2::bleh::Police::shit::Punk:

Between him and MM's comeback its getting fun

Grumph

3rd October 2022, 10:58

Imagine if Miller could win the championship now wouldn't that be an interesting twist :devil2::bleh::Police::shit::Punk:

If it comes to a choice between Miller or an Italian, I can make a good guess who'd get the slow Ducati. Remember, Miller's gone at season end.

iYRe

3rd October 2022, 11:11

I dont think Miller cares, I reckon he'd love to win the championship on a duc them go win one on a KTM heh

george formby

3rd October 2022, 11:45

I dont think Miller cares, I reckon he'd love to win the championship on a duc them go win one on a KTM heh

When the commentator started talking about "team orders". Miller letting whatisface past, I was almost begging for it to happen to see if Miller would give them the finger.

iYRe

3rd October 2022, 11:50

When the commentator started talking about "team orders". Miller letting whatisface past, I was almost begging for it to happen to see if Miller would give them the finger.

Pecco was too slooooow :P

george formby

3rd October 2022, 18:02

Pecco was too slooooow :P

Indeed!

Gonna have to break out some Wagyu for the BBQ next race, maybe bring on the nubiles post race.

Reckless

3rd October 2022, 20:37

Pecco was too slooooow :P

If he falls again like the last couple years :facepalm: he stuffed! It's having an effect.
We have seen it in the last couple of races I reckon.
Wonder how Fabio is going to come out of the blocks at PI Attack or defence??

Also Watch out for the 3 that have nothing to loose Miller, Bastinini and Aleix (if they can get that bike to handle).

Good stuff :woohoo:

roogazza

4th October 2022, 12:40

Haven't seen race yet !

Turned to shit for my man #20 BUGGER ! :no::confused:

F5 Dave

5th October 2022, 06:40

Philip island is ideal place for Yamaha to shine. He'll have to go for it as beating Bags in the other two is unlikely.

onearmedbandit

5th October 2022, 09:21

Not a good spin for Ducati's PR management.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/blacklisted-by-ducati-motogps-leading-team-closes-its-doors-to-critics%EF%BF%BC

Reckless

5th October 2022, 10:47

Not a good spin for Ducati's PR management.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/blacklisted-by-ducati-motogps-leading-team-closes-its-doors-to-critics%EF%BF%BC

Cheers for that
They certainly pissed Mat Oxley off LOL
Now we see the power of the press battle vs Ducati :mad:

iYRe

5th October 2022, 10:49

Cheers for that
They certainly pissed Mat Oxley off LOL
Now we see the power of the press battle vs Ducati :mad:

not sure this is Ducati's smartest move lol

roogazza

5th October 2022, 11:18

Philip island is ideal place for Yamaha to shine. .

Hope so F5 Dave. Corner speed and his talent, fingers crossed from me. <_<

Horsepower is always gunna help the Doocatis...

Autech

5th October 2022, 17:32

PI gunna be interesting for sure. If Aprilia can get their bike dialed in its my bet for the best bike for the track.

Nimble, heaps of grunt and can brake at an angle really well, which sums up PI pretty well. They have fuck all data though.

Fabio uses his corner speed and braking in a straight line, plus good exit drive to combat the Yamahas shit top speed.
He'll only be able to use the corner speed to his advantage so my thoughts are is he's going to suffer a bit, especially as MM and the KTMs should be in the mix.

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F5 Dave

5th October 2022, 18:15

There's no real slow corners to show up lack of grunt. Wind can be an issue there but it usually comes in from Siberia, but at the slowest complex I guess. The 500s did better there against the new 990s than most other tracks.
If he gets away he'll kick it.
But Bags and a rekindled Millar look strong as hell. Hopefully Aliex can regain his form. Time is running out for him and he has tried so hard.

pritch

6th October 2022, 09:18

There's no real slow corners to show up lack of grunt.

Turn 10, MG? is a negative camber hairpin. I'd ride it slow. Then again I'd be slow everywhere.

F5 Dave

6th October 2022, 11:58

Autech

6th October 2022, 14:26

Seems to me Fabio and the Yamaha struggle less getting out of the corner and more in the 4th-5th-6th gear once raw power is needed.

Fabio will be able to overcome quite a bit especially onto the front straight but I think if there's any v4 near him in the last corner they'll come by him before turn 1.
It remains to be seen if the Ducati will suffer with all its downforce in the high winds though, I'm actually thinking the Ducati is less of a threat at PI than say the Aprilia and Suzuki. Though with so many of them and the Miller factor I still expect them to be in the mix well and truly.

Its an odd track, but its going to be epic.
Go Aleix!

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husaberg

6th October 2022, 18:12

Bottom of Lukey, I've sat there many times and people fly out of there. My lasting impression is hearing MickeyD light it up out of there on the screamer being chased by Crafer.
Of course from my vantage point I could have given them both some pointers on how I'd have got some real speed through that section. :tugger:

Considering how much Doohan was dominating its scary to think it was written that Doohan and burgess trialed an Ohlin's fork and shock and on the NSR instantly were going a full second or two quicker. Without any adjustments at all.
He wasn't allowed to use them as Honda own Showa, plus he was also winning anyway,
the pros win as slowly as possible so not to look like their bikes are too fast.
As making it look too easy only makes the others try harder.
Doohan occasionally went against this rule to teach others a lesson as too who was top dog, but did a lot of his winning against the same spec bikes. So he clearly was.
oddly though, i think Honda also own fair chunk of Nissin, but The NSR used Brembos. So i assume they made a big difference.
Honda have been known to use Mikuni carbs, (97/98 CR's i think) even though they own or at least owned Keihin.

If i ever get to meet Burgess or Mick i would like to know just how much faster it was on Ohlin's
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Grumph

6th October 2022, 18:36

iYRe

6th October 2022, 18:57

I'm going to assume most of you have read Oxley's bit on front tyre pressures as i can't post the link.
I'd love to know if Miller ran legal pressures when he won. He was so much better on the front end compared to most of the other Duc's.
PI is hard on the fronts too - so will the FIM start upholding the rules around tyre pressures there ?
It's going to be interesting.

Crash net were talking about this today. Apparently, because there is no way to consistently measure the pressures it isnt illegal. So they note what they run and do what ever they like as it is only a guideline until next year. If millar was running lower pressures, or whatever, he wouldnt have been the only one.

F5 Dave

6th October 2022, 19:09

Considering how much Doohan was dominating its scary to think it was written that Doohan and burgess trialed an Ohlin's fork and shock and on the NSR instantly were going a full second or two quicker. Without any adjustments at all.
He wasn't allowed to use them as Honda own Showa, plus he was also winning anyway,
the pros win as slowly as possible so not to look like their bikes are too fast.
As making it look too easy only makes the others try harder.
Doohan occasionally went against this rule to teach others a lesson as too who was top dog, but did a lot of his winning against the same spec bikes. So he clearly was.
oddly though, i think Honda also own fair chunk of Nissin, but The NSR used Brembos. So i assume they made a big difference.
Honda have been known to use Mikuni carbs, (97/98 CR's i think) even though they own or at least owned Keihin.

If i ever get to meet Burgess or Mick i would like to know just how much faster it was on Ohlin's
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Crafer had won at Donington a race or two before as I recall and was the only one who could challenge him that year, but only on tracks that suited his front Dunlop. Either way in that race it was drying and Crafer picked up the pace cutting his way through the field like no one else was capable of. Until presumably Doohans pit board informed him of his presence in 2nd and closing. Doohan then matched his lap times almost immediately and showed why he was the actual master and no further progress was made. Nice try sunshine but. . .

husaberg

6th October 2022, 21:30

Crafer had won at Donington a race or two before as I recall and was the only one who could challenge him that year, but only on tracks that suited his front Dunlop. Either way in that race it was drying and Crafer picked up the pace cutting his way through the field like no one else was capable of. Until presumably Doohans pit board informed him of his presence in 2nd and closing. Doohan then matched his lap times almost immediately and showed why he was the actual master and no further progress was made. Nice try sunshine but. . .

Crafer on song was pretty special, earlier too with superbike stuff on the Kawasaki and RC45 were impressive.
Doohan appeared just as happy to see Crafer win that day as everyone else was.
There were times that the Yamaha matched in the later era Gary McCoy put on some great shows as well, but few and far between
Kennys spawn won on the Suzuki that was in essence a Yamaha using Yamaha spec pipes and cylinders advantage with a great tire and no Doohan with Rossi not ready. Sinclair did a great write up somewhere.

Grumph

7th October 2022, 05:50

Crash net were talking about this today. Apparently, because there is no way to consistently measure the pressures it isnt illegal. So they note what they run and do what ever they like as it is only a guideline until next year. If millar was running lower pressures, or whatever, he wouldnt have been the only one.

All the rims carry a miniature data recorder which logs pressures continuously. It can be and is downloaded by Pirelli after each session or race. Apparently there is a sheet of everyone's pressures handed out to the teams - which is where the accusations of illegal pressures are coming from.
There's a gentlemans agreement in place at the moment not to push the enforcement of the pressure limits.

BUT - That's not what's written in the rules. If one team did decide to protest, it's what's in the book which takes precedence.

I'd pick that leaking the pressure sheets to Oxley was someone's way of trying to make the cheats fall into line without actually protesting.

pritch

7th October 2022, 08:00

I'm going to assume most of you have read Oxley's bit on front tyre pressures as i can't post the link.
I'd love to know if Miller ran legal pressures when he won. He was so much better on the front end compared to most of the other Duc's.
PI is hard on the fronts too - so will the FIM start upholding the rules around tyre pressures there ?
It's going to be interesting.

That article was published back in May, it probably focussed attention on tyre pressures. As the article suggests the system used in WSBK would stop the silliness.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/motogp-bombshell-some-teams-are-cheating-the-tyre-rules

iYRe

7th October 2022, 09:41

All the rims carry a miniature data recorder which logs pressures continuously. It can be and is downloaded by Pirelli after each session or race. Apparently there is a sheet of everyone's pressures handed out to the teams - which is where the accusations of illegal pressures are coming from.
There's a gentlemans agreement in place at the moment not to push the enforcement of the pressure limits.

BUT - That's not what's written in the rules. If one team did decide to protest, it's what's in the book which takes precedence.

I'd pick that leaking the pressure sheets to Oxley was someone's way of trying to make the cheats fall into line without actually protesting.

According to Keith Huwen there is no standardised method for all teams, so they cant/wont enforce it. They all have to use a standardised tool for next season so they can enforce it.

Not sure why Michelin would allow Pirelli to download the data :P

Grumph

7th October 2022, 11:15

According to Keith Huwen there is no standardised method for all teams, so they cant/wont enforce it. They all have to use a standardised tool for next season so they can enforce it.

Not sure why Michelin would allow Pirelli to download the data :P

My mistake. It was obviously Michelin. The data recorder fitted to the rim in the article quoted by Pritch looks like a standardised piece to me.
If all the teams are getting the list as shown it's a standardised system.

If keith H means the teams don't all use the same pressure gauges then fair enough there will be some variation. But if there's a minimum pressure specified then it's in the team's interest to have accurate gauges.

F5 Dave

7th October 2022, 11:56

I bet they are all accurate but a std calibrated item will stop the arguments.

iYRe

7th October 2022, 14:00

I bet they are all accurate but a std calibrated item will stop the arguments.

MotoGP’s minimum pressures are 1.9 bar (27.55psi) for front slicks and 1.7 bar (24.65psi) for rears. At the moment teams can use any brand of TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring systems) they like, so it’s impossible to accurately compare data from these different sensors, which is why the rules aren’t really rules.

Thats from Matt Oxley himself:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/the-tiny-gadget-that-will-transform-motogp-in-2023

mulletman

8th October 2022, 17:01

Hugh Anderson induction :woohoo:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1014003/1/hugh-anderson-becomes-motogp-legend-during-ceremony-new-zealand

iYRe

13th October 2022, 13:00

I dont think this has been posted before.. and even though its promo material, you gotta have respect for the guy:

<yt-formatted-string force-default-style="" class="style-scope ytd-watch-metadata">Marc Marquez' nightmare - two years that almost ended his career �� | In Conversation</yt-formatted-string>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9umtw7Q7Cw

jato

13th October 2022, 22:51

Weather looks dodgy tomorrow but good for sat/sun at phillip island. Be good to see Jack win this one... hopefully his bike will be 100% even though Ducati management will be "quietly" hoping he places behind Pecco. So many exciting scenarios ... roll on sunday

sugilite

14th October 2022, 06:47

Well call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel there will be a fairly high chance Jacks bike will not be at the highest possible level for this race.

James Deuce

14th October 2022, 07:19

Well call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel there will be a fairly high chance Jacks bike will not be at the highest possible level for this race.

It's an Italian team. Of COURSE they'll fuck Jack over. I bet you Enea will romp past Jack on the straight like Jack is riding a Yamaha, let alone the Black Magic Fuckery that will be done to Pecco's bike. Vinales will go well this weekend - and then suck for the rest of the year.

iYRe

14th October 2022, 07:21

Jack has said a few things in the last week - it seems like not that much love lost there atm.

Autech

14th October 2022, 09:05

Phillip FUCKING Island boys.

Been wayyy too long, though its current Phillip Lake. Hopefully we get a dry race with some massive battles, I have a feeling this ones gunna be epic.

I'll be racing at Hampton when its on though, hopefully have enough energy to watch it when I get home.

F5 Dave

14th October 2022, 10:01

Crafer did a tech talk on the Black magic fuckery, otherwise known as engineering, which could explain how they utilise their engine life budget, and on which tracks. Perhaps Philip Island isn't one of those, but will depend on how much peak engine life they have left.

Still predicting FQ to get back on the fast line.

James Deuce

14th October 2022, 10:30

Race may be held on jet skis.
https://cdn.crash.net/styles/article/s3/pa/3233643.0008.jpg

sugilite

14th October 2022, 13:40

Race may be held on jet skis.
https://cdn.crash.net/styles/article/s3/pa/3233643.0008.jpg

That being the case, they are going to have to fuck jacks bike even harder.

Dadpole

14th October 2022, 14:18

That being the case, they are going to have to fuck jacks bike even harder.

So if (when) he falls off, we should look for a Ducati guy on a grassy knoll? :corn:

sugilite

14th October 2022, 19:18

So if (when) he falls off, we should look for a Ducati guy on a grassy knoll? :corn:
Na, they will be more like tranquilize the steed ;)

pritch

15th October 2022, 12:57

Was somewhat concerned about the weather for the GP. The situation is rather more grim than I anticipated, there is wide spread flooding, there has been at least one death in Victoria, there have been evacuations, the defence forces have been called in to help. MotoGP suddenly doesn't seem quite so important.

The good news is that the rain has eased in Tasmania and southern Victoria. Here's hoping.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/gallery/2022/oct/14/australia-floods-again-a-week-of-rain-around-the-country-in-pictures

F5 Dave

15th October 2022, 13:07

Geez that's intense. Poor buggers.

mulletman

15th October 2022, 20:43

Well done Jorge Martin

pritch

16th October 2022, 10:31

Just looking at the times of the coverage this afternoon. The talk kicks off at 1245. I'm considering heading up to the local bottle store and getting some beer in prior.

george formby

16th October 2022, 10:59

Just looking at the times of the coverage this afternoon. The talk kicks off at 1245. I'm considering heading up to the local bottle store and getting some beer in prior.

:drinkup: Already lit the BBQ, pork belly is marinaded, beer's in the fridge, pole dancers booked for 5pm and even been scolded for slacking off my chores. I expected that a bit later when I have my rubber legs on.

pritch

16th October 2022, 15:47

What a thoroughly entertaining afternoon. Philip Island does produce great racing.

george formby

16th October 2022, 17:24

What a thoroughly entertaining afternoon. Philip Island does produce great racing.

I suspect you got low alcohol beverages. I chewed a cushion to bits, the pork belly is like a roof tile.

I'm watching the post race press conference, fascinating how the podium riders are talking.

K'in wow.

jato

16th October 2022, 20:16

Wicked race! poor jack though... I see that Suzuki has got some fair oomph - even passed Jack's Ducati down that long straight.
not long to the next one...

SaferRides

16th October 2022, 21:33

Anyone counted how many overtakes? Even by PI standards, it looked like a lot.

It's good to have PI and M Marquez back!

But naming a corner after someone who's only won a Moto3 race there?

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SPman

16th October 2022, 21:58

Well, that was a cracker - first 7 covered by .9sec!
Good to see Marquez is almost back to form, Rins was flying and Team 46 gets stronger every race...

iYRe

17th October 2022, 08:18

I shouldnt watch these things surreptitiously at work.. the yelling at the end nearly got me in trouble lol

Autech

17th October 2022, 09:35

Huge race in Motogp, one of the best of all time perhaps? All tracks should be like PI.

I expected Suzuki to be strong, but that strong? Why the fuck are they pulling out with 2 of the best riders signed? Madness... Either way glad to see a Ducati bested, I've decided I love Bagniaia but don't like his manufacturer. Hoping Aprillia rediscover some form but they're really up against it, 2 bikes data on tracks they haven't been to on that bike vs 8 bikes data on a tracks Ducati have been to working together to propel Bags to the front. This is why Ducati always find time over the weekend.

Poor old Fabio, he's giving it his all but unfortunately you can't just overcome that much of an advantage by sheer bravery.
TBH if Ducati had stuck with the GP21 slightly tweaked for Jack and Bags this year I doubt we'd even be seeing him as a contender as it was the early season that he was able to hammer out an advantage whilst they got to grips with the GP22. Here's hoping next years bike is one that both he and Franco can work with and that they've got all the kings horses in its donk.

Alex Marquez? Dickhead

Over to the rookies, they say that Phillip Island is a real riders track that equalises the machinery. Then why is it that the top 2 rookies behind Bez are not getting a ride next year, and the 2 that finished behind them are? Both Darryn Binder and Remy Gardner earned another crack over the likes of Raul Fernandez and Fabio De-Jan-Antonio. Wrong passport I guess and they already have their token Aussie and Saffa on the grid.

SaferRides

17th October 2022, 18:38

From the MotoGP website:

Australian MotoGP: Jorge Martin: I was calm when I didn't have Marc Marquez behind!
[emoji1]

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pritch

17th October 2022, 20:14

Then why is it that the top 2 rookies behind Bez are not getting a ride next year, and the 2 that finished behind them are? Both Darryn Binder and Remy Gardner earned another crack over the likes of Raul Fernandez and Fabio De-Jan-Antonio. Wrong passport I guess and they already have their token Aussie and Saffa on the grid.

If the latter two are Spanish there wouldn't seem to be a passport problem. Despite Valentino Rossi's best efforts with his academy, there's no shortage of Spanish riders.

jato

18th October 2022, 15:28

pete376403

18th October 2022, 19:52

I stumbled upon this from Kevin Cameron - its a year old so some may have seen it already. Pretty interesting as always particularly after the first 10 or 12 minutes. covers plenty from racing H1R's to some of the tech used recently in Moto Gp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCmNX7fIajE
From the early 70's until the ceased publication I purchased "Cycle" magazine on a regular basis - Kevin Camerons articles were always the first thing devoured. Not only because he built a race bike based on a Kawasaki F9 350 and I had one, but mainly he has a superb way of writing about very technical topics without dumbing down. He continued to write for Cycle World but it seemed they would only allow him one page, not enough to go into things is the same depth as the Cycle articles.

jato

18th October 2022, 20:39

BMWST?

20th October 2022, 20:01

Alex Marquez? Dickhead

Fabio did exactly the same thing but luckily missed the bike in front

SaferRides

20th October 2022, 20:59

Fabio did exactly the same thing but luckily missed the bike in frontFabio has been riding on the edge all year, it's impressive how few times it's gone wrong.

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pete376403

21st October 2022, 07:08

Yes he certainly has a way of in depth tech speak. i don't see any of the main stream bike journos replacing him in a hurry.
Re the F9 s, way back a high school mate bought an ex Peter Ploen F9 with a factory roadracing? kit ... my god it was a rocket and as a 15 year old it made quite an impression racing (and beating) rd350's etc.
I have a photo of that bike at Onekawa (Napier) races. IIRC the factory kit did a lot for the power, not so much for the brakes. I've still got a thing for F9s, would love to get one again. Harry Klemms website has lots of info about making them stay together.

iYRe

21st October 2022, 10:16

the latest press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fJuKKwmOE

Over the years we've watched MM learn how to follow his prey then jump.. but still do crazy stuff. Now we have a MM who has learned how to be wise, but is forced to only use his mad skills when he needs to, but now has to rely on his wisdom.. I dont know which is more scary, but if I was a GP rider, I'd be a bit worried lol. Marc will know all your weaknesses, and given the opportunity he can and will throw something magical at you, but only if it will get him a win.

F5 Dave

21st October 2022, 11:59

Over covid, spare parts have been hard to find for specialised equipment. Now some supply chains are normalising. MM is not obsolete and now fully operational with a few sw patches..

Hashtag: killallhumans

BMWST?

21st October 2022, 14:00

Over the years we've watched MM learn how to follow his prey then jump.. but still do crazy stuff. Now we have a MM who has learned how to be wise, but is forced to only use his mad skills when he needs to, but now has to rely on his wisdom.. I dont know which is more scary, but if I was a GP rider, I'd be a bit worried lol. Marc will know all your weaknesses, and given the opportunity he can and will throw something magical at you, but only if it will get him a win.

once Honda give him a half decent bike normal service will resume

iYRe

21st October 2022, 15:22

once Honda give him a half decent bike normal service will resume

he had some go faster bits, and has more to try this weekend, so he said

BMWST?

21st October 2022, 16:46

he had some go faster bits, and has more to try this weekend, so he said

it wasnt so long ago that the Honda was the fastest bike,or the most agile bike,or the bike that could stop on a dime..it isnt that anymore.All it will take IMHO is the honda to have one strong point and he will be back at the very pointy end

SaferRides

22nd October 2022, 07:18

So Bagnaia could find himself in Q1 if it's wet for P3. Could be an interesting weekend...

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pritch

22nd October 2022, 17:57

There goes whatever chance Franco had.

mulletman

22nd October 2022, 18:25

There goes whatever chance Franco had.

Fair enough to....meanwhile Q1 is gonna be a shitfight cant wait !

SaferRides

22nd October 2022, 20:38

That was the best quali of the year!

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pritch

23rd October 2022, 18:48

On the grid there was a minute's applause for the recent passing of the head of Red Bull. I don't know if it went for a full minute but it reminded me of people clapping Kim Jong Un in North Korea. Not in a good way.

jato

23rd October 2022, 19:45

Woo hoo ! great win by Bastiaini.... well you know what i mean...

SaferRides

24th October 2022, 05:42

Woo hoo ! great win by Bastiaini.... well you know what i mean...https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1015401/1/bastianini-bagnaia-pit-board-message-changed-nothing-i-tried-win

I was surprised he passed Bagnaia so early in the race, as he normally manages his tyres better. But he looked much faster, so probably thought he could pull away and win.

It made for an exciting race though!

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onearmedbandit

24th October 2022, 09:01

I know a lot of people thing Puig is a prick, the way he comes across on TV it can seem that way, but I always felt there is a reason for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loiif__xgCM&t=7s

He wants the best for his riders, his team, and himself.

pritch

24th October 2022, 12:48

I know a lot of people thing Puig is a prick, the way he comes across on TV it can seem that way, but I always felt there is a reason for this.

I read years ago that it is just as well there is sport. Were it not for sport, people like Puig and Suppo would be trying to conquer the world.

pritch

24th October 2022, 16:01

James Deuce

24th October 2022, 17:35

Great ride by John McPhee, 22nd on the grid to first. He's usually fast but either through bad luck or bad management fails to convert the speed to a place on the podium.

I hope he can find a ride somewhere next season. His win might help but there can't be many good rides left.
Yeah, he was great, but he can't ride in Moto3, he's too old (as per the regulations) and he's too old for a team to take a chance on him in Moto2. About the only place he could go with transferrable skills would be WSS.

pritch

24th October 2022, 20:12

Yeah, he was great, but he can't ride in Moto3, he's too old (as per the regulations) and he's too old for a team to take a chance on him in Moto2. About the only place he could go with transferrable skills would be WSS.

Yeah, you're more optimistic than me. I hadn't got past BSB.

F5 Dave

26th October 2022, 12:13

James Deuce

26th October 2022, 12:40

Oxley has written a great piece on why motogp riders are so inconsistent. He quite often asks and answers, questions you didn't think of directly then desire to know.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/why-are-modern-motogp-riders-so-inconsistent

You have to register but it's not a paywall and worth it.
That's why Vinales will never win a championship. Also, Bagnaia needs to stop bringing that fucking worry wort of a girlfriend to the race track. She just looks sick, all the fucking time.

pritch

26th October 2022, 19:22

That's why Vinales will never win a championship. Also, Bagnaia needs to stop bringing that fucking worry wort of a girlfriend to the race track. She just looks sick, all the fucking time.

Bagnaia had the whole damn family there. He was supposed to clinch the title. Next time?

James Deuce

27th October 2022, 09:35

Bagnaia had the whole damn family there. He was supposed to clinch the title. Next time?

I kinda hope so. He's managed to bounce back from some issues in a commanding fashion and seems to be a nice guy at the same time.

SaferRides

29th October 2022, 15:33

I hope Bagnaia wins it, but he hasn't always coped well with pressure.

It must be a few years since Valencia decided the championship - was it the year Dovi came close?

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sugilite

5th November 2022, 08:02

Yikes, anyone game enough to predict the length of his future career?
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1016310/1/marquez-takes-risks-falls-twice-i-want-see-if-i-have-fire-inside

pritch

5th November 2022, 08:05

Mat Oxley reports that Franco Uncini, 1982 500cc World Champion, is retiring as MotoGP Safety Officer. He is to be replaced by Ezpeleta's nephew.

I have questions. :sherlock:

iYRe

5th November 2022, 18:57

Yikes, anyone game enough to predict the length of his future career?
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1016310/1/marquez-takes-risks-falls-twice-i-want-see-if-i-have-fire-inside

Bah, he'll be fine.. merely a scratch.

Grumph

6th November 2022, 18:32

Miller vs Quatararo for the win IMO.

pritch

6th November 2022, 20:10

Miller could be a good bet to win this. Bagnaia won't be taking any risks. Quateraro has to win it - or bin it in the attempt.
I'm not staying up until about 2.30 to watch it so I'll have to avoid bike related sites until I do..

Grumph

7th November 2022, 06:36

Miller vs Quatararo for the win IMO.

Well, I got that wrong, lol.

iYRe

7th November 2022, 14:28

FQ did everything he could though, that first few laps was epic.

James Deuce

7th November 2022, 15:15

Can someone ban Bagnaia's girlfriend from the pits, please? I enjoyed the race, but holy shit, if this was a 1940s movie, there'd be blokes lining up to slap her out of her hysteria.

pritch

7th November 2022, 16:12

Well, I got that wrong, lol.

You were not alone.

BMWST?

7th November 2022, 22:13

I have to wonder what Rins and Mir are gonna think about the Hondas tomorrow

James Deuce

7th November 2022, 22:19

I have to wonder what Rins and Mir are gonna think about the Hondas tomorrow
Not much. Their faces will paint a picture.

SaferRides

8th November 2022, 06:42

Congratulations Pecco. It takes a lot to come back from 91 points down.

Very sad to see Suzuki go, because they will never come back. A pity we saw so little of Rins during the race, it's been a pleasure to watch him on the Suzuki.

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onearmedbandit

8th November 2022, 08:21

Very sad to see Suzuki go, because they will never come back. A pity we saw so little of Rins during the race, it's been a pleasure to watch him on the Suzuki.

They've left before and come back. Never say never.

iYRe

8th November 2022, 09:16

They've left before and come back. Never say never.

And the engineer dude from Suzuki has gone to honda hasnt he? Or was it Yamaha?

SaferRides

8th November 2022, 10:12

onearmedbandit

8th November 2022, 12:42

I can't see them coming back again. It would cost a small fortune to put a team back together and likely take years to build a competitive bike again. Maybe when MotoGP goes electric? [emoji1]

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I think the fact they've done it before suggests it isn't impossible. It would've cost a small fortune to put a team back together and did take years to build a competitive bike again that won a world championship after they left the four stroke era the first time.

F5 Dave

9th November 2022, 06:36

Well I'm picking MV for the win. The fact that the race has already occurred doesn't make it more or less likely, but mainly as it will send James into an apoplectic rage:mad:.

jato

9th November 2022, 21:52

sadly for Yamaha fans it sounds like the new engine is as slow as the old one...https://motomatters.com/analysis/2022/11/08/2022_valencia_motogp_test_notes_a_lot_of.html

SaferRides

10th November 2022, 06:39

They should hire the Suzuki engine development team. That's a long straight at Valencia but Rins was able to stay in the lead.

I feel really sorry for Rins and Mir having to move to Honda. Sounds like the new bike isn't much better.

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pritch

10th November 2022, 10:04

Sounds like the new bike isn't much better.

Indeed, and Marque wasn't mincing words. "We need a lot more to fight for the title."

iYRe

10th November 2022, 10:51

Indeed, and Marque wasn't mincing words. "We need a lot more to fight for the title."

On MM's youtube channel there is one of those STON93R videos from after the testing. He said that, and he also said that the bike was like 2 notches slower - but I am not sure that comment wasnt about the last race (the 2 notches one I mean)

sugilite

10th November 2022, 23:26

Fabio and morbidelly were shocked that the 23 yamaha motor was as slow as the 22 one.
Which begs the question, did yamaha pull a swifty by giving fabio a "sprint" motor for that earlier test in order to secure his signature on that contract extension? :sherlock:

James Deuce

12th November 2022, 11:05

Excellent. Another season of Ducati trying to lose the championship by letting it's fleet of riders steal points from each other.

iYRe

12th November 2022, 14:20

MM was also upset that his bike was slower, although Crash reckons that there might have been some gamesmanship going on there - reving up the engineering team, and also not letting the opposition know just what is going on..
Apparently Crutchlow (and he is the tester) still thinks the yammy has more power and is faster, so its quite possible FQ is doing something similar.

BMWST?

12th November 2022, 15:40

Excellent. Another season of Ducati trying to lose the championship by letting it's fleet of riders steal points from each other.

always a problem with dream teams. Its why dani was the pefect team mate ussually in a high finishing place but behind the no 1 rider and every now and then he would destroy everyone

SaferRides

13th November 2022, 06:54

always a problem with dream teams. Its why dani was the pefect team mate ussually in a high finishing place but behind the no 1 rider and every now and then he would destroy everyoneExactly. Ducati may live to regret ditching Jack Miller for that very reason.

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