Unmasking Elon Musk

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Wow Husenberg, CNN, The New York Post, you really are wearing your true rainbow colours with pride that you truly are a mainstream media brain washed sheep


It's no wonder the polls are so close in NZ, half the nation can't think for themselves, they need the government sponsored mainstream media to tell them how to think

[husaberg]

Wow Husenberg, CNN, The New York Post, you really are wearing your true rainbow colours with pride that you truly are a mainstream media brain washed sheep


It's no wonder the polls are so close in NZ, half the nation can't think for themselves, they need the government sponsored mainstream media to tell them how to think
i see you edted out how it was widely reported he never meet with Carson...... any particular reason? ...... Dont worry OAB will not call you on it...
the video is all carlson if you watched it you would know this.
As a troll you really could do better....3/18

[pritch]

Pritch claimed that Tucker and Musk are working together to produce a show on twitter. Working together. He replied to sugilite that he saw 'an (sic) video announcement by Carlson himself', sugilites post was a response (without quote) to Pritch's post.

Carlson's statement was more implied than coming right out and saying it. Lots of headlines said it for him. To the point Musk stated that nothing had been signed. Mind, Musk has tried to pul out of deals before.

Examples:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tucker-carlson-is-heading-to-twitter-why-he-and-elon-musk-are-a-good-fit-in-the-worst-way/ar-AA1b0gqa

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-warmly-welcomes-tucker-carlson

Following Carlson's second speech, the one about truth in news, he has no sense of irony apparently Musk tweeted "nothing has been signed". That indicates talks were planned or were happening.

[R650R]

Musk has apparently appointed a new woman CEO to run twitter.

Word on the street is that her first move will be to increase the character limit from 140 to 1,000,000 😂😂😂

[onearmedbandit]

Carlson's statement was more implied than coming right out and saying it. Lots of headlines said it for him. To the point Musk stated that nothing had been signed. Mind, Musk has tried to pul out of deals before.

Examples:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tucker-carlson-is-heading-to-twitter-why-he-and-elon-musk-are-a-good-fit-in-the-worst-way/ar-AA1b0gqa

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-warmly-welcomes-tucker-carlson

So Carlson didn't say a deal was made, just that he was going to twitter. I've got that correct so far? Then some people concluded from what Tucker said that him and Musk were working together? And this got reported on, widely. And then Musk comes out and says 'I want to be clear that we have not signed a deal of any kind whatsoever'. Damn they must be in cahoots huh, that's got to be the only possibility.



Following Carlson's second speech, the one about truth in news, he has no sense of irony apparently Musk tweeted "nothing has been signed". That indicates talks were planned or were happening.

No that's an interpretation, not a firm indication.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, I honestly don't care as I'm not defending either of them. In fact I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could boot them. But at the moment there is nothing concrete at all to go around making statements like 'Musk and Tucker Carlson are working together to produce a right wing nut job/fantasy programme of some sort on Twitter' and trying to pass them off as fact.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Like Musk said there is no deal, Tucker Calson has just under 7.4 million subscribers and growing, This amount of clicks from advertising would make him millions per month in advertising revenue by putting his own content on Twitter so long as it meets the regulations of not advocating violence, anyone can do this
left or right political leanings as long as you have the subs, you don't need a contract deal either,Tucker has some great insights against the system, I look forward to seeing his content.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Elon Musk has appointed a new CEO of twitter

What does this mean?

Twitter is now financial stable

Who is Linda Yaccarino ?

A hard bitch that cut her teeth in the corporate advertising world

Will she tell Elon to fuck off?

No, he is still a large shareholder but she is the adult in the room.

Who cares,it's a biker forum!

True, but all the naysayers in the early post of this thread said Twitter was going to die, you have one the worlds most experienced advertising executives about to grow Twitters revenue massively, the investors that came in with Musk to purchase Twitter are going to be making a killing when Twitter is re publicly listed on the share market, the naysayers and doomers on this site will still be broke boys and broke old men.

[husaberg]

Elon Musk has appointed a new CEO of twitter

What does this mean?

Twitter is now financial stable

.

Odd you claim you are so well informed ....
Millions of Twitter users asked him to step down in a Twitter poll the billionaire himself created and promised to abide by.
353060

Did you miss this.

its almost a lower % than trump got against clinton
Percentage trump 46.1% clinton 48.2%
Percentage Biden 51.3% Trump 46.8%

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Odd you claim you are so well informed ....
Millions of Twitter users asked him to step down in a Twitter poll the billionaire himself created and promised to abide by.
353060

Did you miss this.

its almost a lower % than trump got against clinton
Percentage trump 46.1% clinton 48.2%
Percentage Biden 51.3% Trump 46.8%

I voted for him to find someone else to run Twitter, I have over a million dollars invested in Tesla not Twitter, I need him cracking skulls at Tesla.

It's a CEO job to a private company (Twitter )not a US presidency dumb arse

[husaberg]

I have over a million imaginary dollars invested in Tesla not Twitter, I need him cracking skulls at Tesla.

It's a CEO job to a private company (Twitter )not a US presidency dumb arse

of course you do....:lol::killingme
https://as1.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/01/23/46/70/1000_F_123467080_Ia1ksAwO6R8mOEKGVI2RoYHJpyuuUj2c. jpg

[pritch]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tesla-owner-demands-refund-after-sixth-attempt-to-fix-car-paint-fails/N5VNG3TM65BWFB73DN5CKHHPQA/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2ff44U1TuXvlAGpq9WigXFx-IMSjUabAxmVVWZ3mHhkSzBdzDrlrciWSw#Echobox=16838656 98

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tesla-owner-demands-refund-after-sixth-attempt-to-fix-car-paint-fails/N5VNG3TM65BWFB73DN5CKHHPQA/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2ff44U1TuXvlAGpq9WigXFx-IMSjUabAxmVVWZ3mHhkSzBdzDrlrciWSw#Echobox=16838656 98

Yeah I clicked the bait, a car painter doesn't know how to prep and paint a standard touch-up and this makes the New Zealand Herald?, possible front page news!,

Knew Zulund.. land of the Ken's and Karen's

[nerrrd]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132036438/landmark-tesla-model-axed-in-new-zealand

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

^^Model X is most likely going to be phased out and the resources moved towards model y ,cyber truck and 30k affordable model 2 and robotaxi

99% of Kiwis and Australian's couldn't afford a model s plaid, there is a bigger market in left hand drive markets like China US and Europe, our markets are too small to warrant a right hand drive 100k plus model s plaid, this is my own opinion and not necessarily fact.

[husaberg]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/487595/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-ex-employees-say


But between 2019 and 2022, groups of Tesla employees privately shared via an internal messaging system sometimes highly invasive videos and images recorded by customers' car cameras, according to interviews by Reuters with nine former employees.

[nerrrd]

^^Model X is most likely going to be phased out and the resources moved towards model y ,cyber truck and 30k affordable model 2 and robotaxi

99% of Kiwis and Australian's couldn't afford a model s plaid, there is a bigger market in left hand drive markets like China US and Europe, our markets are too small to warrant a right hand drive 100k plus model s plaid, this is my own opinion and not necessarily fact.

Looks like it's worldwide in all right hand drive markets.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/667047/tesla-cancels-right-hand-drive-model-s-model-x-orders/amp/

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Looks like it's worldwide in all right hand drive markets.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/667047/tesla-cancels-right-hand-drive-model-s-model-x-orders/amp/

Yep, they would make a higher profit margin on the model s, but if they sold 2 model y in NZ/OZ that would be about the same profit, I'm betting on what's coming in the next 24months, FSD, if theres more Teslas on the road which is only possible by selling the cheaper Tesla model's, they can charge extra for FSD and eventually charge what they want when it becomes legal on our roads, that's where Tesla will become a multi trillion dollar company, and the majority of vehicles on the road will be driverless Tesla's.

Well that's the plan anyway, so getting rid of the expensive Teslas on our roads is all apart of the master(s) plan, just my opinion.

[husaberg]

Looks like it's worldwide in all right hand drive markets.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/667047/tesla-cancels-right-hand-drive-model-s-model-x-orders/amp/

or it could be telsas deliver times on orders now mean they might loose money on the orders due to inflation and component cost increases....

Elon Musk recently explained Tesla’s difficulties in adjusting pricing for vehicles that they are delivering six to twelve months from now, especially with rising costs of materials.


Also, the price is likely going to change. Tesla is now delivering new Model Ys to people who ordered them last year for $5,000 to $10,000 cheaper than it is to buy one right now with a new order.

the RHD would i assume be bulit in china


Tesla inventory is building up as production ramps, and demand has remained essentially flat during the past quarters. It was just a matter of time before Tesla had to pause production to allow demand to catch up.
Tesla opened more gigafactories and production was no longer an issue, the EV maker found it hard to keep those production lines going when the demand essentially plateaued.


This is something that few people expected just half a year ago when Tesla was hiking prices like there was no tomorrow. But starting in Q3 2022, Tesla discovered inventories were building up, and demand was suddenly an issue. Since then, people kept talking about demand, inventories, and advertising. This led to some of the deepest price cuts the automotive industry has seen since the Henry Ford era.


Industry insiders expect production in Q2 and Q3 to be clearly below the 264K per quarter capacity because of the lower demand. This might also bring new production pauses in the second quarter. Further price cuts should not be ruled out, which might hurt both margins and demand. When people expect the car prices to trend lower, they are more inclined to delay the purchase.

[Laava]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132036438/landmark-tesla-model-axed-in-new-zealand
The funniest thing on that Tesla story was the ads. I am picking our little tesla fanboi wears these pants, and not just when he is driving!

[sugilite]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/tesla-owners-sue-over-impact-software-update-ev-batteries-2023-05-12/

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

It has come to my attention that nobody has an opinion on this thread, all the contributors to this thread just Google search Tesla and the news link, this confirms my belief that this forum is full of brain washed sheep who can't or refuse to think for themselves leaving their faith of these journalists who make an income from how much click bait they can receive, that is fine, but it just shows how independent your actual thoughts are since you don't HAVE YOUR OWN OPINION.

I mean why have a forum if all you do is paste a link to a news article? Anybody can find a news link about Tesla good or bad.

Think sheeple think, that's what's wrong with this country

[sugilite]

And with their heavy investment into the solid state batteries, BYD is set to leave tesla in their dust.
https://www.economist.com/business/2023/02/02/chinas-byd-is-overtaking-tesla-as-the-carmaker-extraordinaire

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

And with their heavy investment into the solid state batteries, BYD is set to leave tesla in their dust.
https://www.economist.com/business/2023/02/02/chinas-byd-is-overtaking-tesla-as-the-carmaker-extraordinaire

BYD will win China, President Xi Ping will want a local winner for China the biggest car market in the world, BYD won't even be a flea on Elons arse in the rest of the world..

[pete376403]

^^Model X is most likely going to be phased out and the resources moved towards model y ,cyber truck and 30k affordable model 2 and robotaxi

99% of Kiwis and Australian's couldn't afford a model s plaid, there is a bigger market in left hand drive markets like China US and Europe, our markets are too small to warrant a right hand drive 100k plus model s plaid, this is my own opinion and not necessarily fact.

And Britain, India, and Japan? Also RHD, Also too small? Lots of wealthy people in those countries.

[pete376403]

this is my own opinion and not necessarily fact.

Yeah, you do a lot of that. Alternative facts, perhaps

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

And Britain, India, and Japan? Also RHD, Also too small? Lots of wealthy people in those countries. I was referring to RHD NZ OZ market being to small a market to Justify the model s and x, Tesla Berlin Giga factory can supply the UK when they start producing them in Germany, for now California is much closer to the UK for the model s plaid to ship, NZ and OZ too far away, to expensive to ship too, the North American and European markets are far bigger and profitable.

Fuck Japan, their trapped in a Toyota Corolla Prius time warp, fuken dinosaurs and India is a 3rd world nation

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Yeah, you do a lot of that. Alternative facts, perhaps like your mainstream media links perhaps?

[husaberg]

this is my own opinion and not necessarily fact.

You should have said this when you claimed it was a fact that telsa never used camera for it's self drive....your opinions are not factually based.


Teslas don't use cameras, they use a new technology in a micro chip called Dojo.
.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

You should have said this when you claimed it was a fact that telsa never used camera for it's self drive....your opinions are not factually based.

Neither is your gender

[Pursang]

Neither is your gender

And what Business of this is yours, LINO?...(Libertarian in name only)!

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Only one other thing that annoys me more than those that are basically Quoting what a journalist from mainstream media vomits, it's those on this site that have an opinion but are afraid to voice it like:

" I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him, but..."

"I don't believe mainstream media or Al Bundy, but..."

" I'm not left or right but..."

" Elon Musk is a plonker but I'll use his Starlink satellite dish that his Tesla shares helped to finance SpaceX, but he's still a plonker...."

Don't be afraid to share your own thoughts and opinions, not necessarily those who tell you how to think.

[nerrrd]

Don't be afraid to share your own thoughts and opinions, not necessarily those who tell you how to think.

Well it seems odd for a car manufacturer with global ambitions to limit their possible market share, especially one that is supposed to have such a streamlined manufacturing process.

But as you say, if the demand isn't there and they're phasing these models out down the road anyway, I guess it makes sense. I'm not sure that any of that qualifies as an opinion? More a review?

Personally, I've always thought the fact that we ended up with some countries driving on the opposite side of the road to the other is yet another example of why the human race will never get its act together and is fundamentally doomed. But that's just my opinion.

[husaberg]

b
Personally, I've always thought the fact that we ended up with some countries driving on the opposite side of the road to the other is yet another example of why the human race will never get its act together and is fundamentally doomed. But that's just my opinion.


Its worse than that parts of China differ from the mainland and still drive on the left as they were formally administered buy the UK , Hong Kong and Macau.
Worse still Macau is contacted by a bridge to the mainland. Not sure how this works for logistics...

[pete376403]

Driving on the left as we do, follows on from Britain who in turn copied the Roman model of having the right hand free for weapons when approaching an oncoming rider or wagon. Driving on the right started with France, who naturally oppose anything British, and continued with US.

[husaberg]

Driving on the right started with France, who naturally oppose anything British, and continued with US.

odd, as the froggies seem able to surrender with both hands; and their frogman seem to be ambidextrous whilst applying limpet mines to civilian vessles ;)

[george formby]

This poses some interesting insurance questions. Oop here, in the land of the bonnet bow wave, driving through floods is an almost weekly event.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/high-performance-110000-tesla-listed-for-1-reserve-so-whats-the-catch/SV6K6DAQ5JGWRP5AL5ANV3C5CA/

[onearmedbandit]

This poses some interesting insurance questions. Oop here, in the land of the bonnet bow wave, driving through floods is an almost weekly event.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/high-performance-110000-tesla-listed-for-1-reserve-so-whats-the-catch/SV6K6DAQ5JGWRP5AL5ANV3C5CA/

To be fair, the same rules apply to ice vehicles too. This is still a runner but is written off due to potential electrical issues (ABS in particular) in years to come. (Note the damaged fuel rail/milky oil text was a typo from another advert.)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/kawasaki/listing/4112354648

[george formby]

To be fair, the same rules apply to ice vehicles too. This is still a runner but is written off due to potential electrical issues (ABS in particular) in years to come. (Note the damaged fuel rail/milky oil text was a typo from another advert.)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/kawasaki/listing/4112354648

Yup, I wasn't picking on leccy cars, just the info on insurance law. I never nude that.

I'm guessing it must be the ABS control unit that took a bath, the rest of the system gets rained on?

Very murky.

[onearmedbandit]

Yup, I wasn't picking on leccy cars, just the info on insurance law. I never nude that.

I'm guessing it must be the ABS control unit that took a bath, the rest of the system gets rained on?

Very murky.

Yeah I've seen a couple dealers I know try to get cars that turned out to be water damaged through compliance, it is not at all cost effective as all sorts of control modules/wiring/sensors need to be replaced.

[R650R]

This poses some interesting insurance questions. Oop here, in the land of the bonnet bow wave, driving through floods is an almost weekly event.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/high-performance-110000-tesla-listed-for-1-reserve-so-whats-the-catch/SV6K6DAQ5JGWRP5AL5ANV3C5CA/

Can’t read the article but making some assumptions....

If knowingly buying an insurance writeoff or previously flood damaged vehicle you would void your policy if you didn’t disclose anything your are aware of that could impact the insurers offer or rates.
Btw if they decline you insurance for something you must disclose that to whoever you go to next.

Driving through flood waters you will prob be covered on your first claim saying oh I didn’t realise the damage that could happen. But likely your insurance company you may not be covered for doing same thing again. Your also on thin ice if your out in extreme conditions and police have advised against travel.

There’s a bunch of ADV riders bragging about riding past road closed signs on flood damaged east coast areas. They will be in for a nasty surprise if they bin it on a closed road.

[pete376403]

So riding through a river crossing (part of any normal adv ride) is now grounds for a write off ? Wonder how NZTA determined that?

[onearmedbandit]

So riding through a river crossing (part of any normal adv ride) is now grounds for a write off ? Wonder how NZTA determined that?

NZTA don't. Your insurance company writes the vehicle off. NZTA just won't let a flood damaged vehicle back on the road.

[Laava]

Yeah I've seen a couple dealers I know try to get cars that turned out to be water damaged through compliance, it is not at all cost effective as all sorts of control modules/wiring/sensors need to be replaced.
So do you have to have receipts? And if so, they would have to be applied solely to your vehicle?

[onearmedbandit]

So do you have to have receipts? And if so, they would have to be applied solely to your vehicle?

I've never actually been down that path before, but from experience in other compliance areas yes receipts have to be provided and installation signed off on. In fact I don't know anyone who has gone to the effort, both dealers just sold their cars for parts.

[pete376403]

NZTA don't. Your insurance company writes the vehicle off. NZTA just won't let a flood damaged vehicle back on the road.

Yeah, so if NZTA wont let a vehicle back in the road it's effectively useless, ie a write-off. People dont pay insurance premiums so they can have a vehicle that they cant use.

Looking a the ABS that is supposedly rendered unsafe by water - the wheel components are exposed to water in the normal course of operation (driving on wet roads) and are sealed accordingly. THe ABS pump is usually in a sheltered position but again sealed to keep brake fluid in and water out. The vehicle computer is well sealed. Do NZTA have a proper understanding of the vehicles that they are supposed to be administering? Have they heard of Deutsch,Superseal and other automotive waterproof connectors?

[onearmedbandit]

I've seen the effects of water ingress on modern electrics in cars, I guess sitting in water for a few days is different to crossing a ford or diving in rain. I know of a few Porsches that made it to NZ with water damage, they were useless ultimately because Porsche stepped in, but I know of one of them that was used by a dealer on a d plate and it had ongoing transmission and abs controller issues due to the flooding.

[R650R]

So riding through a river crossing (part of any normal adv ride) is now grounds for a write off ? Wonder how NZTA determined that?

Most ADV “river crossings” are splashing through puddles masquerading as creeks. However let’s say you were to lose your KTM1290 across a raging Ford you would find your next renewal may have some amendments.
There was an Aussie you tuber trying to be the next big “influencer” in the 4wd scene. He managed to bog a brand new Mitsubishi in water that was prob bit higher than bonnet level. Anyhow it took some time before he was recovered. In the meantime the water crept past all door seals etc and wrecked all electronics. Write off. His insurance paid out but told him he wouldn’t be covered in same circumstances again.

[pete376403]

Most ADV “river crossings” are splashing through puddles masquerading as creeks. However let’s say you were to lose your KTM1290 across a raging Ford you would find your next renewal may have some amendments.
There was an Aussie you tuber trying to be the next big “influencer” in the 4wd scene. He managed to bog a brand new Mitsubishi in water that was prob bit higher than bonnet level. Anyhow it took some time before he was recovered. In the meantime the water crept past all door seals etc and wrecked all electronics. Write off. His insurance paid out but told him he wouldn’t be covered in same circumstances again.

Dont know where you go riding but where we go, river crossingongs are a quite a lot more than puddles Was with a rider who drowned his 950 KTM in the river running from Napoleon Hill. Got well and truly submerged. Normal recovery procedures (plugs out crank the warer out of the cylinders, drain the carbs, oil change, ensured it restarted and it kept running fine for many years after that.

[husaberg]

Dont know where you go riding but where we go, river crossingongs are a quite a lot more than puddles Was with a rider who drowned his 950 KTM in the river running from Napoleon Hill. Got well and truly submerged. Normal recovery procedures (plugs out crank the warer out of the cylinders, drain the carbs, oil change, ensured it restarted and it kept running fine for many years after that.
If that is the on near Ikamatua he made the mistake of going straight out of the tunnel you need to go further downstream same with the mackley river up between Westport and Inangahua.

[pete376403]

If that is the on near Ikamatua he made the mistake of going straight out of the tunnel you need to go further downstream same with the mackley river up between Westport and Inangahua. Was in the creek that is between the quite high straight up and down cliffs. Another of our group drowned his DR650 in the mackley - slippery bastard crossing that one.

[husaberg]

Was in the creek that is between the quite high straight up and down cliffs. Another of our group drowned his DR650 in the mackley - slippery bastard crossing that one.

Sorry with the mackley i should say upstream there is a rock you look for if you cant see the rock you dont cross its been years since i have been there.
Hard to believe hundreds of people lived in Napoleon hill.

[pritch]

This is a tale of rebuilding a flood damaged McLaren hybrid. Salt water flooded. Obviously not in this country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f-levD8D_Y&t=11s

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk, which is their prerogative, but I can guarantee this hate & animosity towards Musk was installed by the main stream media, I doubt anyone on this site owns a Tesla, until they will need one like a SpaceX starlink internet satellite.

Instead of being manipulated by someone else's opinion, including mine, why not have your own

https://youtu.be/6sUwRiIncKU

[Berries]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk,
By what, four or five individuals?

More than half the replies on the first random page I checked were from you. If you stopped waving your poms poms for a bit the thread would die off and disappear.

[mashman]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk, which is their prerogative, but I can guarantee this hate & animosity towards Musk was installed by the main stream media, I doubt anyone on this site owns a Tesla, until they will need one like a SpaceX starlink internet satellite.

Instead of being manipulated by someone else's opinion, including mine, why not have your own

A WEF multi-billionaire business man who advocates infinite economics on a finite planet while wasting resources on spaceships to take us to an even more inhospitable place. Hmmmm, what is there to like is a really good question. I bet he's a really nice guy, but he's a businessman that doesn't work according to the boundaries of any sane reality given modern day issues. Give us an infinite planet, and he's a God. Alas........

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

By what, four or five individuals?

More than half the replies on the first random page I checked were from you. If you stopped waving your poms poms for a bit the thread would die off and disappear.

So your saying shut the thread down?

Why?

If you truly didn't care, I doubt you would have taken the time to reply on this thread

Who cares if it's just me and Husenberg debating on Musk, is that a reason to go silent on the topic or perhaps your Marxist believes cloud your thoughts..

[Berries]

So your saying shut the thread down?

Why?
Not at all. But you won't change the view of a single person and as a lone voice you do come across as a bit of a Musk kiss arse.


Who cares if it's just me and Husenberg debating on Musk, is that a reason to go silent on the topic or perhaps your Marxist believes cloud your thoughts..
I didn't know that I had Marxist beliefs. Just Googled it and pretty sure I don't although I did have sweet and sour pork for tea last night.

[Laava]

A WEF multi-billionaire business man who advocates infinite economics on a finite planet while wasting resources on spaceships to take us to an even more inhospitable place. Hmmmm, what is there to like is a really good question. I bet he's a really nice guy, but he's a businessman that doesn't work according to the boundaries of any sane reality given modern day issues. Give us an infinite planet, and he's a God. Alas........
Ben Eltons movie "Stark" is like a biography of Musk.

[R650R]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk, which is their prerogative, but I can guarantee this hate & animosity towards Musk was installed by the main stream media ...

Musk is actually the darling of the mainstream media, he provides ample hopium news articles with his grandiose promises inline with the green agenda.

It’s actually a variety of alternate YouTube’s channels like Thunderfoot(legit scientist), Adam something, and others that break down his false promises.

It’s not hatred of electric Jesus, more of disdain for his encouragement of green energy follies that fail without govt subsidies.

[mashman]

Ben Eltons movie "Stark" is like a biography of Musk.

The Penguin Books description: "Ben Elton's earth-shattering début novel. Stark is a secret consortium with more money than God, and the social conscience of a dog on a croquet lawn.".

I see what ya mean.

[pritch]

This is not local this is in Victoria. The Victorian police must have blown the budget on their expensive electric shit box, because their budget Bunnings charging arrangement is neither particularly safe nor efficient. Some (probably) cheap electric extension cord and a few zip ties. Job done. Sort of.

[Laava]

The Penguin Books description: "Ben Elton's earth-shattering début novel. Stark is a secret consortium with more money than God, and the social conscience of a dog on a croquet lawn.".

I see what ya mean.
Did they furnish you with a synopsis?
worth a read by the way, not just for the parallel with EM

[mashman]

Did they furnish you with a synopsis?
worth a read by the way, not just for the parallel with EM

Sort of, and lol. Beware the neighbours. Might hunt a copy down as I remembering giggling lots to his work back in the day.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

This is not local this is in Victoria. The Victorian police must have blown the budget on their expensive electric shit box, because their budget Bunnings charging arrangement is neither particularly safe nor efficient. Some (probably) cheap electric extension cord and a few zip ties. Job done. Sort of.

So the Victorian police want to do their bit for climate policies

Help there department and or state perhaps in carbon credits

Save on fuel and maintenance costs

Nah ...perhaps be like you, Mr negative and say fuck it , don't buy a Tesla, it was only the number one selling car in the world in the first quarter, but according to your YouTubers it's a piece of shit, well that's alot of people to be wrong if Teslas model Y was the number 1 sell car in the world in Q1 2023, and most are picking it will be the number 1 selling car in the world for this year

You can keep bagging on Tesla until you are a lone sad voice on this earth and everybody else is wrong, I give you A++ for your perseverance.

[sugilite]

I hear their new patrol cars sirens sound be like waaaaaah, wahhhhhh, wahhhhh:rolleyes:

[R650R]

Thunderfoot on Fire again debunking Musk lies....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO4-7MfVAJU&pp=ygULdGh1bmRlcmZvb3Q%3D

[sugilite]

This is what happens when big dreams meet overzealous server capacity cuts :rolleyes:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/24/tech/twitter-desantis-meltdown/index.html

Im sure meatball is stoked with his decision to go with musks shitter for his big announcement :second:

[husaberg]

This is what happens when big dreams meet overzealous server capacity cuts :rolleyes:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/24/tech/twitter-desantis-meltdown/index.html

Im sure meatball is stoked with his decision to go with musks shitter for his big announcement :second:

clearly the lefts issue but look hunter bidden etc etc etc.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

As predicted earlier in this thread Tesla Full self driving likely coming to our shores in 2024

https://techau.com.au/fsd-beta-has-arrived-in-australia-2023-12-10-installed-on-2-cars/

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Tesla Model Y number 1 selling car in the world for the first quarter

https://www.motor1.com/news/669135/tesla-model-y-worlds-best-selling-car-q1-2023/

[sugilite]

That is an Australian article cobber, this is a nz based forum mate.
anyways....
Nek minut - gubbermunt.
https://www.transport.govt.nz/about-us/what-we-do/queries/current-regulatory-settings-for-autonomous-vehicles/

I know and have full faith the ever well meaning labor government will step in and protect us (and black people, and babies in strollers) from teslas autonomous driving scourge.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

That is an Australian article cobber, this is a nz based forum mate.
anyways....
Nek minut - gubbermunt.
https://www.transport.govt.nz/about-us/what-we-do/queries/current-regulatory-settings-for-autonomous-vehicles/

I know and have full faith the ever well meaning labor government will step in and protect us (and black people, and babies in strollers) from teslas autonomous driving scourge.
Very unlikely NZ will block FSD, UK and EU trialing it and beginning to write/change legislation, California already embracing it, the rest of North America will follow

It's only a matter of time before monitored FSD is available in NZ,

The biggest problem with Tesla FSD is that it's not human, and too cautious, the human animal doesn't give a fk about speed limits when they are late or busting to go to the toilet.

Tesla FSD is currently a better driver than anyone over 80 years old, Tesla FSD will likely take at a guess 50% of road users of the road, peering into the next 20 years, I predict you will need a special permit to drive a car, for the next generation will not need or understand why us old farts drive at all? Similar to going to a library, Owning a CD player, having a landline.

Please don't vent your frustrations out on me, this is just what's going to happen as Artificial intelligence becomes apart of our everyday lives.

[sugilite]

Be that as it may, and that is a very big "may". The option is too bloody expensive. Very poor value imo.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Be that as it may, and that is a very big "may". The option is too bloody expensive. Very poor value imo.
1/ Tesla is developing the next generation affordable EV, this is likely to kill off at least 2 or 3 auto manufacturers.

2/ You can pay for FSD by subscription, like anything else today should you choose it.

3/Most young people won't want either when an autonomous vehicle can pick them up around the city.

4/ It's getting cheaper to build EVs, so EVs will eventually flood the city streets, autonomous or not.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Tesla is likely to start advertising this year, this will inform the world basically of what I have been posting on this thread, now Tesla is the number 1 selling car in the world, in a few years, my opinion will likely be mainstream or the boring norm and last decades news.

[sugilite]

I know you pooh poohed BYD, but they are coming for the world market, Tesla will have to move fast to compete at the lower end where the lion share of the sales are made. And speed of development from tesla has been underwhelming to date. And Tesla are already selling some cars with BYD batteries yes?
I like ev's, will get one when they sort out infrastructure on the charging front. I travel from one end of the country to the other often, and infra is not there yet and quite some time away imo. Not to mention speed of charging is still an issue for me.

Naturally you are entitled to your opinion, but I personally do not see tesla dominating ev sales for much longer.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

^^ Tesla cannot transition the entire world fleet by themselves, that's about 2 billion gas guzzlers, after building more giga factories Tesla is aiming for 20 million EVs by 2030, Im picking closer to 2035, they need BYD, Ford ,GM VW and any other start up companies to replace the worlds entire fleet of cars.

[Laava]

I wonder how much CO2 Elons rockets produce? I guess it wont matter so long as there is enough oxygen to last up until the point he leaves for Mars.:shifty::shifty::shifty:

[sugilite]

Ford sees byd ad a major threat.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/25/ford-ceo-farley-says-chinese-automakers-like-byd-are-biggest-ev-rivals.html

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Tesla Model Y over taking the Toyota Corolla as the number 1 selling car in the world is impressive considering it's almost twice the price, I believe the buyers market of the model y and 3 is or will become exhausted over the next year or so, The next market is the largest market, the affordable car range, I own 2 Teslas and for me I don't even use them, well unless I have to take the dog for a walk or shopping whatever, I prefer my motorcycle for commuting in Auckland traffic.

My point being, is the affordable car market is the market that matters most, because
these people don't give a fuck what they drive so long as it's cheap and reliable, with the Tech that's in Tesla and obviously fuel savings, any political bias is going to be thrown out the door with opinions on Musk.

Similar to those on this site that shit on him but are happy to use his Starlink internet.

The difference between electric cars ATM is a matter of choice for the wealthy, this will not matter with a 2nd hand Tesla is 15 grand comes on the market.

This is no different to the motorcycle community in White wealthy Western countries, it's a rich man's hobby, motorcycles will not come down in cost in the west so will remain elusive to a small portion of the population, I don't include gangs or dirt bike riders because they are a small minority.

When your only 2 choices are Apple and Samsung, the rest are fighting for the scrap's.

[onearmedbandit]

I wonder how much CO2 Elons rockets produce? I guess it wont matter so long as there is enough oxygen to last up until the point he leaves for Mars.:shifty::shifty::shifty:

If it wasn't SpaceX there would be another company taking their place, and they most likely wouldn't be using reusable stages like SpaceX are. Better of two evils if you want to look at it that way.

[sugilite]

Maybe some more work required....
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/25/23737972/tesla-whistleblower-leak-fsd-complaints-self-driving

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Maybe some more work required....
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/25/23737972/tesla-whistleblower-leak-fsd-complaints-self-driving

Yes I read that report

1/The negatives were taken from 2015 to 2022, there was bound to be growing pains in that long time frame, you can't just design something and expect it to be 100% from day 1.

2/ Musk has stated for every 10 positive achievements Tesla/Space X has made, the 1 negative will always make headlines

3/ Per million miles driven with FSD activated, data shows FSD was 10 times safer than humans, although the data came from driver's of Teslas that were already safe driver's and monitored FSD when activated.

4/ The number 1 goal of FSD is to eliminate driver error bringing down the horrendous death rates of the 1.35 million people that die on the roads
internationally yearly from human error.

5/ I mean, this is a motorcycle forum, FSD will save thousands of motorcyclist lives once activated in NZ

Musk has vision,I give him credit for attempting some would call impossible.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Anyone else notice on this forum that use mainstream media links end up being wrong in time, similar to what Mr Demonlord was saying on his post, he had his own opinion which eventually became true eg: covaids/ socialist Labour.

This is similar to how I see Musk, I have my own opinion on him and his nutty visions, he's always late but he eventually achieves what he sets out to do

Ford and Tesla our now working together to share Teslas 15,000 charging stations in north America( on average 2 charging stations are being built a day)

This is 2 private company enemies working together to achieve a common goal, unlike public political parties that block each others progress and the citizens end up paying the price for their arrogance.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

There is great opportunity for space Travel, I believe south Aucklands Mangere Rocketlab is only second to Elon Musks Space x

" Rocket Lab’s small satellite launch vehicle, launched twice, just ~2 weeks apart from the companies Launch Complex 1 in Mahia, New Zealand to deliver the 4 CubeSat constellation to orbit."

https://www.teslarati.com/rocket-labs-electron-delivers-tropics-constellation-to-orbit/


Note: Teslarati is not mainstream media more an Elon Musk promoter of his companies .

First launch below, they just sent up another.

I'm hoping to be on one to Mars before I die.


https://youtu.be/kgv4jcVpwzs

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

^^ The only good thing the Obama administration did was contract out space travel to private companies, because we all know space travel is dead under government control

Hmmmm capitalism, who would have thought it actually works ..

[R650R]

Have you got a givealittle page so we can fund your mars trip.

There’s been some great vids from likes of Thunderfoot and Adam something breaking down what a fragile folly such an expedition will be to a hostile environment.

Mars is a bleak nothingness with no atmosphere constantly being peppered by asteroid debris.
There is zero gain to having a base on mars.
You could simulate the experience by sleeping at side of desert road in. All the trucks roaring past spraying you with dust and loose gravel along with the bleak cold should nail it.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Have you got a givealittle page so we can fund your mars trip.

There’s been some great vids from likes of Thunderfoot and Adam something breaking down what a fragile folly such an expedition will be to a hostile environment.

Mars is a bleak nothingness with no atmosphere constantly being peppered by asteroid debris.
There is zero gain to having a base on mars.
You could simulate the experience by sleeping at side of desert road in. All the trucks roaring past spraying you with dust and loose gravel along with the bleak cold should nail it.

Thanks, but I'm very wealthy so don't need your welfare

Why so afraid to explore the solar system and eventually the galaxy

Afraid of being left behind?

Im presuming your ancestors said we would sail off the face of the Earth if you traveled to far, luckily these "brave" explorers didn't listen to you and some unknown haters on YouTube.

So go hide under your nice warm used Jancinda Skirt you purchased of a trade me transgender black lives matter charity auction.

[R650R]

Thanks, but I'm very wealthy so don't need your welfare

Why so afraid to explore the solar system and eventually the galaxy

Afraid of being left behind?

Im presuming your ancestors said we would sail off the face of the Earth if you traveled to far, luckily these "brave" explorers didn't listen to you and some unknown haters on YouTube.

So go hide under your nice warm used Jancinda Skirt you purchased of a trade me transgender black lives matter charity auction.

You been drinking Bud Light again guess it matches colour of your fav euro trail bike lol


https://youtu.be/U9YdnzOf4NQ

[R650R]

You might be waiting awhile so here’s some viewing to pass time


https://youtu.be/7EOjSGVrMxw

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

If it wasn't clear in my previous post, is that I was calling you a pussy, because your afraid to venture outside your comfort zone, try a new technology, broaden your horizons, you prefer to stay home, hang a Teddy Bear in your window, watch your favourite you tuber and hopefully die safe and warm of old age.. pussy.

[sugilite]

I for one would like to see the Government step in and test the autonomous driving capabilities to make sure that it is fit for purpose on nz roads. Not just tesla, but any company wishing to release such software.

[onearmedbandit]

I for one would like to see the Government step in and test the autonomous driving capabilities to make sure that it is fit for purpose on nz roads. Not just tesla, but any company wishing to release such software.

You have much faith in the government (and before anyone suggests I mean the current government, I mean any government).

[Laava]

I for one would like to see the Government step in and test the autonomous driving capabilities to make sure that it is fit for purpose on nz roads. Not just tesla, but any company wishing to release such software.


You have much faith in the government (and before anyone suggests I mean the current government, I mean any government).

Yep, they could form a select committee etc, and go from there. Numerous six figured salaries with the eventual redundancies attached and the usual, predictable outcome. Do I sound overly cynical?

[sugilite]

You have much faith in the government (and before anyone suggests I mean the current government, I mean any government).


Yep, they could form a select committee etc, and go from there. Numerous six figured salaries with the eventual redundancies attached and the usual, predictable outcome. Do I sound overly cynical?

Guys, im totally counting on exactly the scenario Laava is presenting. Once they havev autonomous driving in, at that point the hourglass starts running for the death of motorcycling as we know it.

I know for me at least, i could not handle my 06 ZX10R retarding the ignition in the first 2 gears before bypassing that shit, yet alone letting a fucking computer do everything for me. I know honda are working on self balancing motorcycles, so in theory automonous motorcycles may be possible, but count me out of that shit.

[TheDemonLord]

I came to this thread to post anti-Govt sentiment and can see that all three are already on it.

GG GJ, Carry on chaps.

[R650R]

If it wasn't clear in my previous post, is that I was calling you a pussy, because your afraid to venture outside your comfort zone, try a new technology, broaden your horizons, you prefer to stay home, hang a Teddy Bear in your window, watch your favourite you tuber and hopefully die safe and warm of old age.. pussy.

The only thing you’ll see in my windows is your wife’s tittles slapping the glass as she lets the plumber in the back door again. Please take your cock out of your hand while typing so you make some sense.

Guess those two clips nailed it home by response damnnnn. 😂😂😂😂😂

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Guess those two clips nailed it home by response damnnnn. 😂😂😂😂😂

I haven't watched any YouTube links you have posted on this thread

My response wasn't a personal attack just an observation

The opposite of adventurous or brave is a pussy.

Hence you are the opposite of adventurous or brave to explore or try new things

In other words a pussy.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Epic starship launch viewed from the across the Mexican border

Warning:

Contains risk and bravery, you will need to be a real man to achieve this effort, those pussies who prefer to stay home and hide under the bed should not attempt to achieve this feet.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crq26rQOc64/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Guys, im totally counting on exactly the scenario Laava is presenting. Once they havev autonomous driving in, at that point the hourglass starts running for the death of motorcycling as we know it.

I know for me at least, i could not handle my 06 ZX10R retarding the ignition in the first 2 gears before bypassing that shit, yet alone letting a fucking computer do everything for me. I know honda are working on self balancing motorcycles, so in theory automonous motorcycles may be possible, but count me out of that shit.
I doubt autonomous motorcycles will be created, the time and technology too invest in 2 wheels doesn't make practical sense, the only countries that could afford this would be wealthy western countries, and motorcycles demographics are to small to justify the billions it would cost to create an autonomous 2 wheel vehicle.

Motorcycles will likely be the last forum of manual transport operated by humans, I do predict it becoming very difficult to obtain a license or special permit to operate one, insurance premiums should come down along with registration costs as autonomous vehicles are likely to cut road deaths and accidents down by perhaps 50 to 90%.

[sugilite]

I don't disagree with any of that.
however, you may want to redress your opinion on byd.

https://www.benzinga.com/news/23/05/32607513/elon-musk-once-laughed-at-tesla-competitor-warren-buffet-backed-byd-now-praises-their-cars

[Grumph]

Epic starship launch viewed from the across the Mexican border

Warning:

Contains risk and bravery, you will need to be a real man to achieve this effort, those pussies who prefer to stay home and hide under the bed should not attempt to achieve this feet.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crq26rQOc64/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


Interestingly - and to the point above, Elon's political puppet De Sanctimonious has just passed laws in Florida making it impossible to sue the "space industry" for any damage or loss of life incurred in operation.

Now just why should these be needed ? Hmm ? Any obvious suggestions ?

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Interestingly - and to the point above, Elon's political puppet De Sanctimonious has just passed laws in Florida making it impossible to sue the "space industry" for any damage or loss of life incurred in operation.

Now just why should these be needed ? Hmm ? Any obvious suggestions ?

Possibly political in the space race against China

I can guarantee people will die in the quest to build a population on the Moon then Mars

People have died throughout history exploring new continents and cultures

If being afraid of dying in the quest to build a civilization outside Earth is your greatest fear, I've got bad news for you, we all gonna die, some of old age, many on our bikes, or I wouldn't mind slamming into the surface of Mars in a massive explosion if the data could be used to get a survivable landing of humans on Mars.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

I don't disagree with any of that.
however, you may want to redress your opinion on byd.

https://www.benzinga.com/news/23/05/32607513/elon-musk-once-laughed-at-tesla-competitor-warren-buffet-backed-byd-now-praises-their-cars

Did you read the article? This has nothing to do with an automated motorcycle, I regret wasting my time clicking on links people on this thread post, I'd prefer reading your own opinion, if I wanted an opinion from a journalist I'd pay them $5 per week for a subscription.

If anyone wants to buy a Chinese EV by all means do, theirs 2 billion internal combustion engines that need replacing around the world, you don't have to buy a Tesla the number 1 selling car in the world so far this year.

[R650R]

I haven't watched any YouTube links you have posted on this thread

My response wasn't a personal attack just an observation

The opposite of adventurous or brave is a pussy.

Hence you are the opposite of adventurous or brave to explore or try new things

In other words a pussy.

I love personal attacks especially when they come from a liar projecting their own fears and failings in a flimsy attempt at insult. As it says their position has no merit and they cannot debate on facts alone.
Doctors recommend to not consume Alcohol with Viagra even if it is a matching blue can of Bud Light.
Full self driving is not coming to NZ in 2024, the govt is not ready for it and neither is insurance industry. Btw a couple of paid Tesla nerds driving around in some sort of trial does not constitute arrival, that is called testing.
Our roads lack the uniformity needed for autonomous driving. Even on Mining sites Komatsu picks and chooses where its automated trucks operate. They can’t drive same road a human can. The road needs to be wider and better maintained. Can you see NZ roads being updated and maintained to a uniform standard? We can’t afford it.

[sugilite]

@albundy/aka arsestinger...
You must have missed my referencing the link to byd, so the incomprehension is yours.. Most of us here in this forum can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You pooh poohed byd.
My apologies that I did not take into account your cognitive limitations, so I have kindly pasted in the relative paragraph below for your reading pleasure and much needed education when it comes to byd. Musk clearly rates them now.

In the clip, after a brief laugh, Musk replied, "Have you seen their cars?" and started laughing again. He further responded with a "No" when the journalist asked if he doesn't see them as a competitor "at all."
However, Musk's opinion has drastically changed now.
That was many years ago. Their cars are highly competitive these days," the billionaire wrote in his reply to the tweet.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

@albundy/aka arsestinger...
You must have missed my referencing the link to byd, so the incomprehension is yours.. Most of us here in this forum can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You pooh poohed byd.
My apologies that I did not take into account your cognitive limitations, so I have kindly pasted in the relative paragraph below for your reading pleasure and much needed education when it comes to byd. Musk clearly rates them now.

In the clip, after a brief laugh, Musk replied, "Have you seen their cars?" and started laughing again. He further responded with a "No" when the journalist asked if he doesn't see them as a competitor "at all."
However, Musk's opinion has drastically changed now.
That was many years ago. Their cars are highly competitive these days," the billionaire wrote in his reply to the tweet.

Thanks for explaining

I still don't understand your point though,

Is their not rivalry between Ducati, KTM , Aprillia , are rival companies not allowed to shit on each other from time to time, it's what makes us men, who has the biggest cock, who can attract the most female partners, or do we live in a world where everyone is equal and should just show empathy

Fuck that, Musk is a winner, I'm a fucken winner, everybody else is a distant second place

Hopefully this explains my own mindset.

Thanks for your response.

[pritch]

Oh dear! In trying to impress us with his erudition, Elon falls flat.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-voltaire-neonazi-strum-twitter-b2347171.html

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Oh dear! In trying to impress us with his erudition, Elon falls flat.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-voltaire-neonazi-strum-twitter-b2347171.html

This made my day! Someone actually fact checked and wrote a long article on something Musk retweeted, It's hilarious, Elon Musk just has to pick his nose and mainstream media are all over it

Just so the Karen's of the world can say "Oh dear" this is not political correctness! We must put a stop to Musk! How dare he! My vagina is now sore,!! Brilliant.

[R650R]

I’ll just leave this here hehe

video no paste…. Musk pretending he invented ai

[onearmedbandit]

This will be interesting to see how it plays out. Toyota, who have been very quiet on the EV topic, are now going gang-busters, having spent the past 11yrs working on development of solid state battery power.

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[pritch]

This is interesting. The Axios Harris poll for 2023 has been released. This measures companies by reputation. Last year Tesla was 11th which was an excellent rating.
This year Tesla ranks 62nd. That groups it with companies some of whom are known to be in financial difficulties. That's not to say Tesla is in financial difficulties, that is just the company they are keeping one year later.

It could be worse, Tesla could be 97th, like Twitter. Or in last place like Trump Org.

Even VW ranks higher than Tesla which is remarkable because they were caught cheating their emissions figures.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

This is interesting. The Axios Harris poll for 2023 has been released. This measures companies by reputation. Last year Tesla was 11th which was an excellent rating.
This year Tesla ranks 62nd. That groups it with companies some of whom are known to be in financial difficulties. That's not to say Tesla is in financial difficulties, that is just the company they are keeping one year later.

It could be worse, Tesla could be 97th, like Twitter. Or in last place like Trump Corp.

Even VW ranks higher than Tesla which is remarkable because they were caught cheating their emissions figures.

Old news , the polls survey participants numbers were cut in half from last year's poll, and this year's participants were mainly Democrats.

The poll is likely rigged but means nothing in the bigger picture as Tesla is the number one selling car in the world so far this year.

[R650R]

Will Trump and Musk be cellmates soon?

A lawsuit against Tesla for sending an owner fatally into concrete median seeks to depose Musk as a witness over claims made in 2016 about how good “Full Self Driving” is….
Musk is trying to say he didn’t say it and that the video with millions of views made in 2016 is deepfake.
He risks serious Jailtime alone for that like Theranos if he repeats those lies in court let alone he’s likely to lose the actual lawsuit also….

[husaberg]

Old news , the polls survey participants numbers were cut in half from last year's poll, and this year's participants were mainly Democrats.

The poll is likely rigged but means nothing in the bigger picture as Tesla is the number one selling car in the world so far this year.

Pray tell how how do you figure they knew to ask the question to only democrat's and how is telsa the biggest selling car...
Toyota are out selling the brand tesla buy about 5 to one....
Tell us how you knew that poll was likly rigged?

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Will Trump and Musk be cellmates soon?

A lawsuit against Tesla for sending an owner fatally into concrete median seeks to depose Musk as a witness over claims made in 2016 about how good “Full Self Driving” is….
Musk is trying to say he didn’t say it and that the video with millions of views made in 2016 is deepfake.
He risks serious Jailtime alone for that like Theranos if he repeats those lies in court let alone he’s likely to lose the actual lawsuit also….

Your high on crack

What alternate planet are you on.

Unless the Republicans find someone better, with the US heading into recession, it's likely Biden won't make another term and at this stage the leading republican candidate is Trump

Aren't you tired of these lawsuits against Musk and Tesla that seem to go nowhere

Just because you pee yourself with excitement or most likely jizz your pants when you see another lawsuit is coming, doesn't mean anything meaningful ever happens.

Musk is as safe as a sitting president, his influence in China and the world, his ev company taking the number 1 selling car in the world, his rocket company leading the space race against China is all but guaranteeing him he will be needed by the US government.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Pray tell how how do you figure they knew to ask the question to only democarates and how is telsa the biggest selling car...
Toyota are out selling the brand tesla buy about 5 to one....
Tell us how you knew that poll was likly rigged?

Fuck I'm rich.

[pete376403]

Who knew? Tesla invented the heat pump! Wonder what we were using 20 years ago because I'm pretty sure it was called a heat pump then (even if it is just air conditioning cooling in reverse)
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=3439039076377417

[husaberg]

Fuck I'm rich.
Well you are rich pickings for thse that like to pick apart when it comes to accuracy of what you claim.
But how many people on KB do you think really believe you have tangible wealth rather than imagined wealth?
You should start a poll.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Elon Musks visit to China has been massive for the west, he has taken on a persona of the true president of the US or leader of the free world with the welcome he has received in China

With Bidens mental health failing from his dementia which is normal for anyone that age, Elon Musk has filled Bidens shoes, he's not afraid to talk to the Media unlike Biden who has a record number of low press interviews, you can throw Arden in this category.

Musk sometimes answers random questions on Twitter with small followings, not afraid to converse with the small people of the world.

A true leader shows all these traits, unafraid to speak his mind, take risks, we unfortunately live in a cowards world ready for an attack from the East, Musk was also voted the most popular political figure recently which is weird considering he's a CEO and not a political figure.

[Berries]

And now wipe the back of your hand and breathe deeply.

[sugilite]

Wiping his hot jizz for musk off his knob would not go astray either.

[Kickaha]

Wiping his hot jizz for musk off his knob would not go astray either.

Stop picking on the special needs kid

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Fuck I'm rich.

Did I mention I was rich?

Oh yes I did right there.

It's fun conversing with poor people online!

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

And now wipe the back of your hand and breathe deeply.

I show empathy for you, it's not your fault your Father is your brother, unfortunately this is what happens in small towns like yours .

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Wiping his hot jizz for musk off his knob would not go astray either.

No, just of your mother's face.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Elon Musks visit to China has been massive for the west, he has taken on a persona of the true president of the US or leader of the free world with the welcome he has received in China

With Bidens mental health failing from his dementia which is normal for anyone that age, Elon Musk has filled Bidens shoes, he's not afraid to talk to the Media unlike Biden who has a record number of low press interviews, you can throw Arden in this category.

Musk sometimes answers random questions on Twitter with small followings, not afraid to converse with the small people of the world.

A true leader shows all these traits, unafraid to speak his mind, take risks, we unfortunately live in a cowards world ready for an attack from the East, Musk was also voted the most popular political figure recently which is weird considering he's a CEO and not a political figure.

Sorting out elon's trip to China

No other CEO come close to Musk


He visited Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Commerce, Ministry of Industry and Information Technology
Meeting with CATL Chairman and CCPIT President
Heavyweight meetings
First Vice Premier of the State Council Ding

Elon Musk is the fucken man

[sugilite]

Well, to be fair, he probably had a lot of bribes to dish out.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Sorting out elon's trip to China

No other CEO come close to Musk


He visited Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Commerce, Ministry of Industry and Information Technology
Meeting with CATL Chairman and CCPIT President
Heavyweight meetings
First Vice Premier of the State Council Ding

Elon Musk is the fucken man
https://h5.video.weibo.com/show/1034:4907819472715821

[pritch]

Elon is being very umm Elon. His rocket failed to launch. He then talked DeSantis into announcing his presidential bid on Twitter, and that too failed to launch. At least he's consistent.

Twitter has recently been revalued. Elon and his investors bought it at a valuation of 44 Billion. It is now valued at 15 Billion.

Musk has compromised Twitter severely, previously a verification mark meant that the person was who they claimed to be. Now it just means that somebody pays Elon $8 per month. Impersonations are rife and Musk himself got caught out just the other day.

There are now warnings that nothing seen on Twitter should be taken as fact, it should not be used as a source, it is completely unreliable. A pity because it used to be a good scource of news. No longer.

And another of his companies has received approval to begin trials on brain implants? No thanks.

[Berries]

Yeah but it’s not all bad. That really really rich dude will be back shortly to quote himself and make us all laugh at him.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Yeah but it’s not all bad. That really really rich dude will be back shortly to quote himself and make us all laugh at him.
I'm also 6.3 , have a very large dick, I'm a landlord, have recently passed my full motorcycle license so can buy my next fuckwit big bike,...um what's missing? Oh yes did I mention I'm retired and rich?

Well this ticks all the boxes of success, or ticks all the boxes of a fuckwit depending on your political or idioligy

I feel like quoting myself..

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

I'm also 6.3 , have a very large dick, I'm a landlord, have recently passed my full motorcycle license so can buy my next fuckwit big bike,...um what's missing? Oh yes did I mention I'm retired and rich?

Well this ticks all the boxes of success, or ticks all the boxes of a fuckwit depending on your political or idioligy

I feel like quoting myself..

I still follow my Christian values although I'm only a man and can be tempted by the devil,

I respect Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Andrew Tate, Tucker Carlson

and listen to Kanye West while riding..


https://youtu.be/L53gjP-TtGE

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Elon is being very umm Elon. His rocket failed to launch. He then talked DeSantis into announcing his presidential bid on Twitter, and that too failed to launch. At least he's consistent.

Twitter has recently been revalued. Elon and his investors bought it at a valuation of 44 Billion. It is now valued at 15 Billion.

Musk has compromised Twitter severely, previously a verification mark meant that the person was who they claimed to be. Now it just means that somebody pays Elon $8 per month. Impersonations are rife and Musk himself got caught out just the other day.

There are now warnings that nothing seen on Twitter should be taken as fact, it should not be used as a source, it is completely unreliable. A pity because it used to be a good scource of news. No longer.

And another of his companies has received approval to begin trials on brain implants? No thanks.

My response to this post is..

Drum roll please....

Wait for it..

Elon Musk is now wealthiest man on the planet once again.. boom!

[R650R]

Yeah but it’s not all bad. That really really rich dude will be back shortly to quote himself and make us all laugh at him.

Hehe and didn’t he do a good job of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
At camp Elon I think they learn a special yoga pose. When he insults himself this well we won’t even need to reply lol

[sugilite]

People who are not rich? Twitter investors that musk conned. The 2nd largest investors, those freedom loving saudis likely want to decapitate him in a local town square.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Hehe and didn’t he do a good job of it ����������
At camp Elon I think they learn a special yoga pose. When he insults himself this well we won’t even need to reply lol

I'm not here for your amusement

What I previously posted is who I am

No jokes

100% fact.

I wear my fuckwit label with pride.

[sugilite]

Forgive him for his self appointed grandiose, he knows not that he fumbles along in the shadows of a pantheon of KB trolling greats such as WINJA. Let us acknowledge the sadness of his self quoting ways and boastments of a 6.3 centimetre penis. He is just but a man, albeit a very, very small man. Amen.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

R650R

You need to remove your "CAPITALISM Gods way of determining who is smart and who is poor" signature.

Your not a true capitalist or conservative, you sit on the fence, you have to believe in capitalism and embrace everything about it, good and bad.

You do not.

[husaberg]

Forgive him for his self appointed grandiose, he knows not that he fumbles along in the shadows of a pantheon of KB trolling greats such as WINJA. Let us acknowledge the sadness of his self quoting ways and boastments of a 6.3 centimetre penis. He is just but a man, albeit a very, very small man. Amen.
You're being very generous....




What I previously posted is who I am ....

I wear my fuckwit label with pride.

Never a truer post by you ever.....

[pritch]

Forgive him for his self appointed grandiose, he knows not that he fumbles along in the shadows of a pantheon of KB trolling greats such as WINJA. Let us acknowledge the sadness of his self quoting ways and boastments of a 6.3 centimetre penis. He is just but a man, albeit a very, very small man. Amen.

Or perhaps Casina? Then again I was never really convinced Casina was male.

[husaberg]

Or perhaps Casina? Then again I was never really convinced Casina was male.

Cassina and katspam stopped posting at a similar time......

[Kickaha]

Or perhaps Casina? Then again I was never really convinced Casina was male.

I was pretty sure it was a her


Cassina and katspam stopped posting at a similar time......

They had very different ways of posting so I doubt they were the same person

Al is more like Finn than anyone else we've had on here

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

You financially illiterate sheeple make me smirk

Your minds are so weak you can't comprehend people can actually make money without having to work so your brain processes that I don't actually exist or perhaps Im someone from the past on this forum

I'll help you out, this is real live footage of Al Bundy..now stick to the topic of how great Elon Musk is!


https://youtu.be/spZOgdhtaMA

[Laava]

I was pretty sure it was a her



They had very different ways of posting so I doubt they were the same person

Al is more like Finn than anyone else we've had on here
Finn was actually funny and offensive. This clown is just lame.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Finn was actually funny and offensive. This clown is just lame.

How's your Elon Musk owned Starlink satellite internet connection working out?....ooohhhh, now that's funny!

[sugilite]

"^^" was the final giveaway for me. Combined with the inarticulate posting style, the low rent amateurish trolling, failure to up the trolling game, instead repeating itself again and again despite no bites, the car focus. It is arsestinger for sure.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

^^ ( ˘ ͜ʖ ˘) ^^^!

[Laava]

"^^" was the final giveaway for me. Combined with the inarticulate posting style, the low rent amateurish trolling, failure to up the trolling game, instead repeating itself again and again despite no bites, the car focus. It is arsestinger for sure.
Yup, that is why I have the cunt on ignore! I only see it's bullshit when someone quotes it.

[pritch]

Your minds are so weak you can't comprehend people can actually make money without having to work so your brain processes that I don't actually exist or perhaps Im someone from the past on this forum


You can rest assured thoughts about how you make your money are rare indeed. Thoughts about you at all are not common. They only occur when you post more of your nonsense here.



Meanwhile...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/04/elon-musk-neuralink-approved-human-testing-concern

[husaberg]

You can rest assured thoughts about how you make your money are rare indeed. Thoughts about you at all are not common. They only occur when you post more of your nonsense here.



Meanwhile...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/04/elon-musk-neuralink-approved-human-testing-concern

They have preapprove all-bunny for a transplant as they found the original was clearly defective....

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

You can rest assured thoughts about how you make your money are rare indeed. Thoughts about you at all are not common. They only occur when you post more of your nonsense here.



Meanwhile...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/04/elon-musk-neuralink-approved-human-testing-concern

"Meanwhile " did you offer to pay The Guardian $2, $10, or $20 a month for such"amazing " journalism?

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

They have preapprove all-bunny for a transplant as they found the original was clearly defective....

Get some sleep

You have work tomorrow ¬‿¬

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Crikey deck cobber! I thought someone on this thread said Tesla couldn't handle Australian conditions

"Model Y becomes best selling SUV in Australia, as EV sales hit record "


https://thedriven.io/2023/06/05/model-y-becomes-best-selling-suv-in-australia-as-ev-sales-hit-record/amp/


Man I'm just so dam right all the time, it's almost embarrassing... almost but not really, I am rich from Tesla stock, not too mention really really good looking.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

^^$orry, I was disturbing you all at work after your long weekend,

Did I say I'm retired and my whole life is a long weekend?

[Berries]

Did I say I'm retired and my whole life is a long weekend?
Same for a few of us on here, we just don't feel the need to wank on about it like an eight year old.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Just contacted the company that test Teslas full self driving in regards to NZ

Response below vv

Last year, we weren’t permitted to share specifics of the countries currently legally testing FSD. Now we can share more details!

In addition to the United Kingdom, Tesla has hired and is actively testing FSD in Norway, Berlin/Germany, Australia, New Zealand, China

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Just contacted the company that test Teslas full self driving in regards to NZ

Response below vv

Last year, we weren’t permitted to share specifics of the countries currently legally testing FSD. Now we can share more details!

In addition to the United Kingdom, Tesla has hired and is actively testing FSD in Norway, Berlin/Germany, Australia, New Zealand, China

NZ Mainstream media likely to jump all over this days if not weeks late lol.

[mashman]

lol@Twitter TV Network, non-partisan, just facts.

I can see it now. Elon TV. Free on App X.

[Laava]

Hosted by AlBunghole.

[husaberg]

Since the responsibility lies with the driver and not Tesla’s system, FSD Beta is still considered a level two driver-assist system despite its name.

yet you are saying this earlier

As predicted earlier in this thread Tesla Full self driving likely coming to our shores in 2024

https://techau.com.au/fsd-beta-has-arrived-in-australia-2023-12-10-installed-on-2-cars/

How if they have not even tested a full FSD in 23 are we getting it in 2024?
or is it like the non existent Teslas cameras. ie just more made up crap.
Also how is it as a self described Teslas expert you done even know what tesla FDS BETA is, because what it is is clearly not a full self drive system, it's not much more the lane assist emergency braking etc that.

[Laava]

Since the responsibility lies with the driver and not Tesla’s system, FSD Beta is still considered a level two driver-assist system despite its name.

yet you are saying this earlier


How if they have not even tested a full FSD in 23 are we getting it in 2024?
or is it like the non existent Teslas cameras ie just more made up crap.
Also how is it as a sef descrobed Teslas expert you done even know what tesla FDS BETA is, bacause what it is is clearly not a full self drive system it not much more the lane assist etc that.
You need to stop egging him on mate, he will have a breakdown.

[mashman]

Hosted by AlBunghole.

I can see that as the #1 show in NZ.

[husaberg]

You need to stop egging him on mate, he will have a breakdown.

A review of it.


ByZachary ShahanPublishedMay 20, 2023
The Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD) suite is a bit of an enigma. I’ve had it for 1½ years, and since long before I’ve had it, I’ve seen some people with the software suite raving about how amazing it is. Indeed, that the car is somewhat able to drive anywhere is a major technical feat. However, when I got access to FSD (beta) in October 2021, I was shocked at how bad it was. I had followed the social media hype about it for a year, and I expected it to be far less error prone than it ended up being. But, hey, expectations are the source of most of our unhappiness — I recalibrated and looked forward to watching it improve in the coming months. Unfortunately, in the 1½ years since, I’ve seen very little improvement, I’ve seen glaring issues remain, and I’ve even sometimes seen new problems arise.


Why do I call it an enigma? For one, the fact that some people claim it is so good and that they can drive long distances without intervening is mind blowing to me. From my experience with it, I can’t imagine how that’s possible. Secondly, I expected some seemingly simple issues to be fixed pretty promptly, and they haven’t been. Third, with all the claims about how Tesla’s massive pool of data can make FSD capable of driving nearly anywhere, I am shocked the AI hasn’t learned how to drive decently in some of the simplest driving environments imaginable. In short, it seems like the millions or billions of dollars spent on this are taking much longer to bear fruit than I expected

https://y.yarn.co/25b2a3f3-934d-42a5-85bd-3232556ae6d4_text.gif

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

You need to stop egging him on mate, he will have a breakdown.

Thanks Laava, you have highlighted my concerns regarding Husenberg, He is unable to use grammar spell check or auto correct on his phone or tablet, so I doubt he will be able to get his head around Tesla FSD

Small steps Husenberg, We all believe in you can do it...

VV


Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
"Since the responsibility lies with the driver and not Tesla’s system, FSD Beta is still considered a level two driver-assist system despite its name.

yet you are saying this earlier


How if they have not even tested a full FSD in 23 are we getting it in 2024?
or is it like the non existent Teslas cameras ie just more made up crap.
Also how is it as a sef descrobed Teslas expert you done even know what tesla FDS BETA is, bacause what it is is clearly not a full self drive system it not much more the lane assist etc that."


I think the biker influence has affected your grammar, I highly recommend E-books for children, it's a very good starting point.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Hosted by AlBunghole.

Soooooo how's that Starlink Internet you installed owned by that rich prick Elon Musk working out ? hmmmmm?


https://youtu.be/1btFOLAIu0A

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Well, I must say I have enjoyed my time on this forum, unfortunately I am no longer challenged, It's quite obvious that I'm hugely popular on this forum, but since my time is scarce, this sadly will be my last post

Goodbye and good luck, stay safe, don't drink and ride, do your head checks and most importantly don't do anything stupid like get yourself killed overtaking a Frontera milk truck

I love you all , especially that hot chick Husenberg xx


Signing out forever,

Al Bundy the richest person you will ever knowwwww.......

[sugilite]

Pinky Promise? :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

Well, I must say I have enjoyed my time on this forum, unfortunately I am clearlychallenged, It's quite obvious that I'm hugely unpopular on this forum, but since my time is scarce, this sadly will be my last post

Goodbye and good luck, stay safe, don't drink and ride, do your head checks and most importantly don't do anything stupid like get yourself killed overtaking a Frontera milk truck

I love you all , especially that hot chick Husenberg xx


Signing out forever,

Al Bunghole the most pathetic troll you will ever knowwwww.......
oh please stay..... said no one eva

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Well, I must say I have enjoyed my time on this forum, unfortunately I am no longer challenged, It's quite obvious that I'm hugely popular on this forum, but since my time is scarce, this sadly will be my last post

Goodbye and good luck, stay safe, don't drink and ride, do your head checks and most importantly don't do anything stupid like get yourself killed overtaking a Frontera milk truck

I love you all , especially that hot chick Husenberg xx


Signing out forever,

Al Bundy the richest person you will ever knowwwww.......

Here's my link if anyone wants to follow me!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk?t=zozPNac089XwGjIkQ44IZQ&s=09

[sugilite]

Isn't there a consequence issued by the mods for those that bang out dear john I'm leaving you kiwibiker posts?

[TheDemonLord]

Isn't there a consequence issued by the mods for those that bang out dear john I'm leaving you kiwibiker posts?

I believe the forum rules say that people will be assisted by the mod team, ensuring that such statements are in fact permanent.

Although I think it only applies to starting new threads, so perhaps there's room for some legal wrangling.

[Laava]

Isn't there a consequence issued by the mods for those that bang out dear john I'm leaving you kiwibiker posts?
Ask PB, she's a mod she's a mod she's a mod yeah yeah yeah.

[onearmedbandit]

A leaving post is the same as a leaving thread, so the outcome is the same. It was fun while it lasted but it really was messing up the look of the site.

[sugilite]

Nice work brother :yes:

[R650R]

On that note to help make it rock solid as original thread author I move that this thread be closed or sent to pointless drivel.

I’ll just leave Thunderfoot latest vid and five year forecast for the record


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYURUiOjZSw&pp=ygUVdGh1bmRlcmZvb3QgZWxvbiBtdXNr

[sugilite]

Clean, green future?
Hmmmm mm
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23760915/tesla-supplier-glencore-human-rights-abuse-allegations-battery-minerals-mining-energy

I feel we should keep the thread alive in loving memory of albungguy.
Rip sweet, sweet cabin boy - rip.

[onearmedbandit]

Jason's videos are amongst the best automotive series on YT.

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[pritch]

A friend of mine has a Peugeot EV. Well, it's his wife's car but she can't get her hands on it. An hour north of here his instruments told him he didn't have enough battery to make it to New Plymouth. The braking he did in the Awakino Gorge gave him enough charge to make it. (He uses a lot of brakes, he used to race.)
I could do without the tension.

On a cold morning we were discussing heaters. Bright as a button he informed me that the heater in his Peugeot pumps out heat immediately. He omitted to mention that in doing so it reduces his range.

The acceleration some of the things have can compete with big sprotbikes. Currently they are at the bottom of the learning curve. They are going to be amazing when fully developed.

[husaberg]

A friend of mine has a Peugeot EV. Well, it's his wife's car but she can't get her hands on it. An hour north of here his instruments told him he didn't have enough battery to make it to New Plymouth. The braking he did in the Awakino Gorge gave him enough charge to make it. (He uses a lot of brakes, he used to race.)
I could do without the tension.

On a cold morning we were discussing heaters. Bright as a button he informed me that the heater in his Peugeot pumps out heat immediately. He omitted to mention that in doing so it reduces his range.

The acceleration some of the things have can compete with big sprotbikes. Currently they are at the bottom of the learning curve. They are going to be amazing when fully developed.

Odd hybrids have a lot of cooling with aux pumps etc i thought they would use this like ice engine does maybe its the extra pumping?
Or maybe evs dont have this battery cooling?

[pete376403]

Odd hybrids have a lot of cooling with aux pumps etc i thought they would use this like ice engine does maybe its the extra pumping?
Or maybe evs dont have this battery cooling?

Teslas certainly do, which makes for an expensive repair unless an unapproved fix is applied https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-OkfCcRAo

[onearmedbandit]

Or maybe evs dont have this battery cooling?

Tesla's do have battery cooling, and most likely variants from the more expensive brands do to, but from what I understand cars like the Nissan Leaf don't, or at least didn't for many years.

[nerrrd]

Elon's original 6-8 weeks time frame for SpaceX to complete repairs to the Starship launch site has come and gone.

New estimate? Another 6-8 weeks...they're doing a lot of work there though, so who knows, this time he might be right.

The costs involved must be enormous.

[pritch]

Odd hybrids have a lot of cooling with aux pumps etc i thought they would use this like ice engine does maybe its the extra pumping?
Or maybe evs dont have this battery cooling?

I think most EVs have liquid cooled batteries, Teslas do. There are simple plastic connectors which can be broken off if you run over something. If that happens Tesla will only offer to sell you a new battery. There are YouTube clips showing mechanics using basic plumbing techniques to repair the joint and save the owner a few tens of thousands of dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-OkfCcRAo

[pete376403]

I think most EVs have liquid cooled batteries, Teslas do. There are simple plastic connectors which can be broken off if you run over something. If that happens Tesla will only offer to sell you a new battery. There are YouTube clips showing mechanics using basic plumbing techniques to repair the joint and save the owner a few tens of thousands of dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-OkfCcRAo


Rich repairs does some interesting videos. Latest one I have viewed was rebuiding an $8000 (!) McLaren P1 battery (the little one not the big main batteries) for $100. Wasnt perfect but can put up with a lot for $7900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f05h60YJcWo

[pritch]

Elon is now an anti vaxxer. Joe Rogan wants a particular doctor to debate conspiracy theorist and ant vaxxer RFK Jr on his show. Elon is in favour. Elon is an idiot.

[TheDemonLord]

Elon is now an anti vaxxer. Joe Rogan wants a particular doctor to debate conspiracy theorist and ant vaxxer RFK Jr on his show. Elon is in favour. Elon is an idiot.

I'm not sure how 'wanting to hear the debate' is being conflated with having a definite set position on an issue.

[R650R]

The “semi” has been subject to a recall with NTSB figures suggesting that only 36 have been built in last six months or so….

[husaberg]

The “semi” has been subject to a recall with NTSB figures suggesting that only 36 have been built in last six months or so….
Interesting Tesla had announced a goal of 50,000 semi sales in 2024. but that was only in the US.
According to Musk, some 50,000 units will be produced annually in 2024, at least that's the target for 2024 in North America.

[pritch]

This is not about Musk but it is about electric cars. The clip is about ten minutes worth but it does explain some of those sales figures. Tens of thousands of new cars, registered, but parked in paddocks to rot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEfwoqKRU8

[pritch]

Musk is making his new CEO's job more difficult. He announced limits on the numbers of Tweets people could read: 6000 for the people who pay US$8.00 per month, 600 for unverified users (although that term has lost all meaning) and 300 for new users. Almost immediately he increased the numbers to 10,000, 1,000 and 500.

Unsurprisingly advertisers are not happy. This latest move from the business genius restricts the amount of advertising people will see. Who'd have guessed?

[sugilite]

Shit Pritch, it is almost like sacking most of the technical staff before learning what they all did has become a liability?

[husaberg]

If only 10% of Instagram users join threads today they will have more users than Twitter.
They already have 3/4 of the same number 300 million vs 395 million only after a few hours.

[pritch]

If only 10% of Instagram users join threads today they will have more users than Twitter.
They already have 3/4 of the same number 300 million vs 395 million only after a few hours.

Musk is talking legal action against Threads for stealing Twitter technology. He sacked the staff and thus put them on the market. It's hard to see his claim being successful when Trump's
'Troth Senshul', Spoutible, and others, use similar technology.

Somebody asked if Musk's "management" had affected user experience. The answer is absolutely. Twitter used to be a reliable source for what was happening in the world at that moment. Now? Not so much. The people I used to see and who posted content that was informative or amusing are mostly no longer in my feed. I get many Trumper fuckwits and "Christians" all of whom have blue ticks. The blue tick used to mean that the person was who they claimed to be. Now it just means they pay Musk $8.00 a month. As a news source Twitter is now completely unreliable.

Parody accounts must have the word parody in the title. If the account uses a long title with the word parody on the end. The software shortens the title hiding the word parody.

Oh, and the 'free speech absolutist' has announced that anybody using the term "CIS gender" will have their account suspended.

[husaberg]

Musk is talking legal action against Threads for stealing Twitter technology. He sacked the staff and thus put them on the market. It's hard to see his claim being successful when Trump's
'Troth Senshul', Spoutible, and others, use similar technology.



You have to love what an utter hypocrite/creatin he is.

Elon Musk says ‘patents are for the weak’
Musk replied that his spacecraft manufacturer ”[doesn’t] really patent things.”

“I don’t care about patents,” Musk told Leno. “Patents are for the weak.”
In Musk’s opinion, patents are “generally used as a blocking technique” that are designed to prevent others from innovating.

“They’re used like landmines in warfare,” he says. “They don’t actually help advance things; they just stop others from following you.”
It’s not the first time Musk has spoken out against patents. In a 2014 memo to Tesla employees, Musk said that it was his company’s ability “to attract and motivate the world’s most talented engineers,” not its patents.

Bahahahaha

Elon Musk’s attorney sent a letter accusing Meta of misappropriating Twitter’s trade secrets to make its Twitter-like app, Threads.
Twitter has serious concerns that Meta Platforms has engaged in systematic, willful, and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property,” reads the letter, which was first reported by the news startup Semafor.
The cease-and-desist letter also demanded that Meta refrain from collecting data from Twitter without its permission.
The letter, written by Musk’s lawyer, Alex Spiro, was addressed to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg.
Spiro wrote in the letter that Twitter “knows” Meta hired “dozens” of former Twitter employees and used their access to Twitter’s trade secrets and confidential information to develop Threads.
Andy Stone, Meta’s communications director responded in writing “To be clear: ‘No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,’”

[R650R]

This chap does some great clips backed up by real world numbers. In the uk it’s popular to lease a new car privately for couple years then there are firms who specialise in buy back and o sell like turners I guess.
Anyway so there’s ample data on devaluation and it shows no o e wants these things and it’s across all brands


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYzsW4SgxbI&pp=ygUPZ2VvZmYgYnV5cyBjYXJz

[R650R]

Oh, and the 'free speech absolutist' has announced that anybody using the term "CIS gender" will have their account suspended.

So they should for abuse of English language and the backhanded sexist insult that it is. Calling someone CIS is just like a straight person using the word gay or homo. It’s treating a person different based on their gender and sexuality.

The proper terms to identify people based on their sexuality if needed due to statistical puposes should be MALE, FEMALE, option three use whatever title the test identify as. It should actually be rare to need to mention someone’s sexuality in any kind of discussion. But people are using CIS in a derogatory fashion to try slur anyone’s argument they are losing against.

As much as many dislike musk and twatter which only 9% of NZ people use it’s a beacon of light in a politically correct world and word on street is Threads is pro trans community. Nothing will show what the silent majority thinks when people vote with their feet or logins…

It’s bizarre in a world obsessed by science (the trans community hate religion and use science for anti god arguments) that there’s so much furore around using the two easiest scientific terms that even kindergarten kids understand.

[pritch]

So they should for abuse of English language and the backhanded sexist insult that it is.

Again, missing the point completely. Musk is either a free speech absolutist as claimed, or he isn't. Clearly he is not.

Nor is he a great businessman judging by what he has done to Twitter. Anytime now he'll be applying for a government bailout. He has form.

All is not lost though, Twitter has just received an endorsement from Anas Haqqani. Who is Anas Haqqani? He's a leader of the Taliban. That'll cheer Elon up immensely. The Taliban prefer Twitter, he could use that in an ad. :killingme

https://www.thedailybeast.com/taliban-leader-endorses-elon-musks-twitter-over-new-rival-threads

[sugilite]

Poor ole tdl, he saw musk as being the savior of free speech on social media, and what musk has done is basically destroy twitter. Zuck has taken a very large run up and then kicked musk fair square in the cunt with the threads app which in one day eclipsed truth woeful, opps i mean social.
I actually do not think it is a good idea for zuck to have this much influence, but none the less find it most amusing that musk fucked this one up so badly considering the mans undoubted success elsewhere. I mean musk has weakened twitter so bad, he in effect invited zuck to fuck him :laugh:
Ahhh well, when ever a faaaaar right leaning warbler does not get what he wants, the world is generally a better place for it :bleh:

[husaberg]

Twitter is tanking....Go elon...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0mvPmYaYAEUxU9?format=jpg&name=large

[pritch]

There has been a slight delay in the renaming of Twitter to X. The Twitter sign on the building was in the process of being removed when the SFPD intervened. The genius businessman didn't have the required permits for the work. Meantime it seems the business is simply to be known be known as "er".

[R650R]

Interesting times… let’s not forget Musk is a student of Klaus Schwab….

This could be a deliberate sabotage of an easily accessible mass communication tool that even the peasants can use.

[sugilite]

Hilariously Musk has found that Meta likely has the copy-write to the symbol x he wants to change the bird over to. Yet another kick in the nuts for musk from zuck - musk seems to collect them :laugh:
Besides there is a much more accurate and relevant new shitter logo, musk obviously likes it since it was for months the response any journalist got back from an email to twitter HQ - that policy changed just as metas new shitter rival popped up - fancy that......


https://andys-kawasaki-zxr-zx7r-tribute-site.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/poop.jpg

[Laava]

Sad turd?
"Hey, are you guys on Sad Turd?"
"Nah, it's full of shit!"

[Hoonicorn]

The blue bird was synonymous with people arguing on the internet.

Elon's obsession with X is stupid. Model X, Space X, Neuralink X, now he's replacing the t with an x?
https://www.vhv.rs/file/max/2/20464_dead-bird-png.png

[pritch]

The letter X is enough to trigger the mail protection software that schools use.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-twitter-rebrand-as-x-gets-site-blocked-under-indonesia-porn-laws?source=twitter&via=desktop

[SaferRides]

From the Herald article on the new Tesla centre in Mangere. Think about what the last sentence means for resale value:

How long do the batteries last?

Tesla batteries are warranted to maintain at least 75 per cent efficiency after eight years.

What will it cost to replace them?

Tesla has yet to hit that eight-year mark for mass-market models - and the firm says it won’t give a price until closer to the date, given battery prices are shifting as the market scales. But the broad rule of thumb is that for most makes and models of EV, the batteries account for around a third of the new car price.



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[Laava]

We are pretty bad here in NZ for replacing our vehicles. It seems to be that aussies get a much bigger run from their cars before trading. Whether that affects resale prices I have no idea wrt Teslas…

[R650R]

Battery efficiency is usually a measure of how much charge you get out for what you put in. You’ll notice any battery gets hot charging, that’s the feel of your money burning. Typically for a home solar setup you only get 65% of the energy you out into the battery that’s why they all price your savings based on you having a stay at home housewife doing all washing and cooking in daylight hours so the energy goes straight from panels to devices.

Also if you drive under harsh acceleration often or have an obese family your battery will be subject to more load and wear out faster.

Anyhow who would buy say any second hand car if dealer says oh mate she’s frighten awesome to drive but it prob need $6000 repairs in couple years time. In the uk there are specialist buyback companies doing a like what turners auctions have started to do here. There open source data says people are not prepared to pay decent $$$ for second hand ev. It’s likely most new buyers are govt delta and woke corporations creaming subsidies on new price.
The average joe doesn’t want to buy the currently available stuff


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfrwsQHjym0

[pritch]

This does not relate to Elmo but it does relate to EVs so I'll park not here.

Y'all will be aware that a ship has been on fire off Holland for almost a week. It has thousands of cars on board and the original estimate was that 25 were EVs. That 25 has now been updated just slightly to 500. Further updates are likely.

I frequently watch this guy. He is often outspoken but he seems to feel quite strongly about this. His description of the Sydney Opera House car park with a capacity of up to 1200 cars and one exit has put me off using parking buildings. I rarely use them anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9-mW-cmdE

[george formby]

I watched some of that last night before I got distracted.

It got me thinking about something I read awhile ago about the impact of new technology over the generations. It started with steam and the number of people killed by boiler explosions as it became more mainstream but still in it's engineering infancy. Absolute carnage for a few years. Then the early days of ICE engines got the same treatment and again it took quite awhile before they became safe. Gas, nuclear power etc came under the spotlight with the same safety curve.

I see no difference with EV's or more specifically, battery tech. Gonna be another few years before the tech matures.

The usual case of history repeating itself so I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist.

There's a lot of noise about relatively few battery fires and explosions but they are spectacular.

Scooter bomb (https://youtu.be/Ka2hMktqoCY)

[SaferRides]

Yeah, the present battery tech has some major failings. It will no doubt be superceded in the next few years, which could be an interesting situation for companies who have invested heavily in battery factories.

But really, given the number of EVs in use now, spectacular failures are rare despite the impression we get from YouTube videos.

I'm definitely going to be late adopter when it comes to EVs.

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[pete376403]

"Tesla programmers rigged the cars' range-estimating software to exaggerate how far they could go without running out of battery and then, when charge on the battery fell below 50%, readjust to a more realistic projection, one Tesla employee told Reuters—an idea that came directly from CEO Elon Musk himself." https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/

What else about these cars cannot be relied on?

[R650R]

Yeah, the present battery tech has some major failings. It will no doubt be superceded in the next few years, which could be an interesting situation for companies who have invested heavily in battery factories.

But really, given the number of EVs in use now, spectacular failures are rare despite the impression we get from YouTube videos.

I'm definitely going to be late adopter when it comes to EVs.

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I forget the link but awhile back someone reputable had timelined major inventions/technology over last few years and come up with some progress graphs. On one axis you had time, the other was efficiency/size etc.
A good example is the evolution of transistors to the micro semiconductors of today, computing power etc.
Anyhow the consultant conclusion is the big jumps are made pretty quickly and improvement then tapers off exponentially across the whole curve. So basically as time goes on only small improvements are made later in lifecycle.
We’ve had batteries along time and basically there is no exponential jump coming in the all important battery power/ density equation. Yes there are some cool things happening but we pretty much have it as good as it’s going to get

[pritch]

It seems that in addition to the tens of thousands of Chinese EVs parked in paddocks, registered with factory miles only, so as to represent "sales". VW has three factories making EVs. It's reported that the Brazilian factory has closed, the German factory has laid off some 30% of its staff. They too have thousands of new vehicles parked in paddocks.

All these EVs rotting in fields are an environmental disaster but they must be causing ulcers in the relevant boardrooms.

[george formby]

It seems that in addition to the tens of thousands of Chinese EVs parked in paddocks, registered with factory miles only, so as to represent "sales". VW has three factories making EVs. It's reported that the Brazilian factory has closed, the German factory has laid off some 30% of its staff. They too have thousands of new vehicles parked in paddocks.

All these EVs rotting in fields are an environmental disaster but they must be causing ulcers in the relevant boardrooms.

I wonder if the EU policy of counting emissions across a manufacturers total range of vehicles has anything to do with this?
IIRC, manufacturers of vehicles sold in the EU must meet a specific emissions threshold or end up paying enormous amounts in penalties.

[husaberg]

I wonder if the EU policy of counting emissions across a manufacturers total range of vehicles has anything to do with this?
IIRC, manufacturers of vehicles sold in the EU must meet a specific emissions threshold or end up paying enormous amounts in penalties.

Thats how Tesla traditionally made most of their revenue, by selling the credits to the likes of Chrysler...

[pritch]

Some matters from the recent past have just come to light.

In court the DoJ requested Trump's Twitter records including his private messages. They also stipulated that Trump not be made aware of the request. Twitter, as it was then, opposed the move but the judge ordered that the records be provided and stipulated a date. The date came and went with no response by Twitter. The DoJ moved for a contempt order. Twitter squealled "freedom of speech." The judge found Twitter in contempt and imposed a fine of fifty thousand dollars per day, doubling each day. Even so it took three days and $350,000 before Twitter woke up to fact that this was about to get very very expensive and the information was made availablele.

[sugilite]

Cheers for the update Pritch.
At least Elon has the capacity to do a ton of media cleansing once trumps pending convictions turn him into a toxic mess to have ever been associated with.

[husaberg]

Some matters from the recent past have just come to light.

In court the DoJ requested Trump's Twitter records including his private messages. They also stipulated that Trump not be made aware of the request. Twitter, as it was then, opposed the move but the judge ordered that the records be provided and stipulated a date. The date came and went with no response by Twitter. The DoJ moved for a contempt order. Twitter squealled "freedom of speech." The judge found Twitter in contempt and imposed a fine of fifty thousand dollars per day, doubling each day. Even so it took three days and $350,000 before Twitter woke up to fact that this was about to get very very expensive and the information was made availablele.

You would have to wonder how musks legal advisors advised him What they were looking for is not covered by freedom of speech. They were looking for evidence of crime.

[pete376403]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKwMryKqRE&t=15s

[sugilite]

Ahhh, Musk the free speech absolutist hard at work.
https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/an-nyu-professor-with-560000-followers-says-hes-been-locked-out-of-his-x-account-for-over-2-weeks-after-declining-to-meet-with-elon-musk/articleshow/102778236.cms

[pritch]

Apparently Musk wants to remove the "block" function from Twitter. This morning he has posted to the effect that it's fun to give people a dose of their own medicine by blocking people opposed to removal of the block option.

The Apple App Store has a requirement that social media apps must have a block feature. Is it possible that the genius doesn't realise that removing the block should result in X being removed from the App Store?

[neels]

So this is what the lower priced cars are.

The same car, with the range limited not by the battery but by the programming, but you still get to cart the weight of the full range battery around.

Seems like a winner....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/300953320/new-and-unimproved-why-the-latest-from-tesla-is-anything-but-the-greatest

[pete376403]

So this is what the lower priced cars are.

The same car, with the range limited not by the battery but by the programming, but you still get to cart the weight of the full range battery around.

Seems like a winner....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/300953320/new-and-unimproved-why-the-latest-from-tesla-is-anything-but-the-greatest

What better incentive for some hacker/cracker to get into the Tesla code and flip a switch or two. (if it hasn't already been done)

[pete376403]

So this is what the lower priced cars are.

The same car, with the range limited not by the battery but by the programming, but you still get to cart the weight of the full range battery around.

Seems like a winner....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/300953320/new-and-unimproved-why-the-latest-from-tesla-is-anything-but-the-greatest

What better incentive for some hacker/cracker to get into the Tesla code and flip a switch or two. (if it hasn't already been done)

[sugilite]

Yep, teslas have already been hacked to enable premium features for free. After seeing musk in action with twitter, i would be nervous he would detect the hack and brick your car.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132689026/unpatchable-chip-flaw-in-teslas-can-unlock-paid-features-for-free

[husaberg]

things are clearly going well

Tesla has discontinued its communications department in 2020 and did not respond to a request sfor comment. CEO Elon Musk did a similar thing at X Corp., formerly Twitter, where media inquiries are now automatically responded to with a poop emoji.


Tesla is being sued for fraud after reports revealed the company has been knowingly inflating driving-range numbers at the behest of CEO Elon Musk. The class action suit comes seven months after Tesla was fined by South Korean regulators for the same issue.


Korea
SEOUL, Jan 3 (Reuters) - South Korea's antitrust regulator said it would impose a 2.85 billion won ($2.2 million) fine on Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) for failing to tell its customers about the shorter driving range of its electric vehicles (EVs) in low temperatures.
The Korea Fair Trade Commission (KFTC) said that Tesla had exaggerated the "driving ranges of its cars on a single charge, their fuel cost-effectiveness compared to gasoline vehicles as well as the performance of its Superchargers" on its official local website since August 2019 until recently.
The driving range of the U.S. EV manufacturer's cars plunge in cold weather by up to 50.5% versus how they are advertised online, the KFTC said in a statement on Tuesday.

Tesla could not be immediately reached for comment.


USA Tesla is facing a class-action lawsuit filed by customers who say they were misled by the company's exaggerated range claims. The lawsuitEditSign was filed yesterday, days after a report revealed that Tesla exaggerated its electric vehicles' range so much that many drivers thought their cars were broken.
"Tesla marketed its electric vehicles as having a grossly overvalued range in an effort to increase sales to consumers," said the lawsuit filed in US District Court for the Northern District of California.
The lawsuit seeks class-action status to represent all people in California who purchased a new Tesla Model 3, Model S, Model Y, or Model X vehicle. The three named plaintiffs are James Porter, Bryan Perez, and Dro Esraeili Estepanian. All three bought Tesla cars in 2022.

[Grumph]

Perhaps the big T insignia should be replaced with a poop emoji.

[husaberg]

Perhaps the big T insignia should be replaced with a poop emoji.

Isn't it a Vee jay jay with its legs spread?
https://www.tessi-supply.com/cdn/shop/products/image_9fa75ce1-94ac-405b-952b-8ddaf465d97c_590x.heic?v=1656517517

[R650R]

Yep, teslas have already been hacked to enable premium features for free. After seeing musk in action with twitter, i would be nervous he would detect the hack and brick your car.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132689026/unpatchable-chip-flaw-in-teslas-can-unlock-paid-features-for-free

Not to mention it would void your insurance. With the propensity for all EVs to catch fire in a way that greatly endangers other property I bet insurance companies won’t touch “modified” ev.

Btw has anyone hacked ktms rally mode and other add ons yet????

[pritch]

Isn't it a Vee jay jay with its legs spread?
https://www.tessi-supply.com/cdn/shop/products/image_9fa75ce1-94ac-405b-952b-8ddaf465d97c_590x.heic?v=1656517517

Now that you mention it...

[Laava]

Oh, so that's what a vagina looks like!

[sugilite]

As my offsprings would say.... "derp derp".

https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-app-store-downloads

[Laava]

California

[Grumph]

What is becoming worrying is that he thinks he knows about international politics. Cutting Starlink off on the Ukraine to "avoid starting a nuclear war" is one thing. Calling Taiwan an integral part of China separated by a temporary arrangement is quite another.
This may of course have been him brown-nosing China to try and get X back on line in that country. But it seems in line with his beliefs.

I seem to recall the US has quite severe penalties for it's citizens indulging in unofficial international diplomacy.

[onearmedbandit]

The death of 'formerly known as twitter'?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts

(Yes I know I missed the 'x')

[pritch]

The death of 'formerly known as twitter'?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts

(Yes I know I missed the 'x')

This is not the first time Musk has floated the idea of charging. He said that when he took it over. The move would be unusual in that it would be charging the people who create the content. It being the users who create the content.

The blue tick used to confirm that the person you were reading was in fact who they claimed to be. Now, if you haven't heard of the person, it just indicates that the user is likely MAGA. If Xitter (pronounced shitter) introduces a charge it will become just another Parler or 'Troth Senshal'. This morning there are posts discussing the wisdom of giving Xitter your bankcard details. Strangely some people don't feel it can be trusted.

Meanwhile we wait to see which of the alternatives builds the required critical mass.

[onearmedbandit]

Yes I know he mentioned it as a possibility when he took over, and the changes he has made, but now it appears to be actually going from just talk. I do think the fears about handing over card details are without much merit though, plenty of users already do with no issues.

[sugilite]

If he tries to charge everyone, he will have to change the name from "X" to "ex" as it will be most peoples ex social media account.

[onearmedbandit]

If he tries to charge everyone, he will have to change the name from "X" to "ex" as it will be most peoples ex social media account.

Haha yup. I've been using Twitter since 2009 but as I use it very rarely now when free there's no way I'm paying for it.

[pritch]

Haha yup. I've been using Twitter since 2009 but as I use it very rarely now when free there's no way I'm paying for it.

I've been there since 2010. I visit most days but much less now than I used to. It used to be the great news source. Now, not so much.

There are people who are familiar and I'm always pleased to see their tweets. Increasingly though there are random MAGA people I'm not so pleased to see. Meanwhile it is nowhere near the news source it used to be. If Musk was planning on killing it, his plan is working. A user charge should pretty much finish it off.


Speaking of MAGA people I don't like, there's Dan Bongino. The exchange below made me smile. Moron. Maybe he should Google Stephen King?

[sugilite]

Well, judging on musks twitter performance, would you give the guy access to your brain?
I can just see it now - Musk's brain implant subscription services: Standing piss $15 per month, sit down pissing service $20 per month. Glass to mouth drinking service, a snap at $50 per month (eco straw hand/eye/mouth management services, an additional $5 per month).
The technology is interesting and would likely change people with disabilities lives for the better - but Musk being involved directly in my brain function, HELL NO. :eek5::crazy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JMFxr1HWs

[pete376403]

Well, judging on musks twitter performance, would you give the guy access to your brain?
I can just see it now - Musk's brain implant subscription services: Standing piss $15 per month, sit down pissing service $20 per month. Glass to mouth drinking service, a snap at $50 per month (eco straw hand/eye/mouth management services, an additional $5 per month).
The technology is interesting and would likely change people with disabilities lives for the better - but Musk being involved directly in my brain function, HELL NO. :eek5::crazy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JMFxr1HWs

And what happens when your subscription runs out - everything gets disabled? Anyway the technology already exists, to a degree - cochlear implants for hearing (I have one) and they are leveraging this tech to make bionic eyes. US Army was trialling one system where cameras were connected to a plate that was placed on the tongue, enabling vision on the dark by "tasting" the image. (lots of sensory organs on the tongue. Get the US military interested and theres no shortage of funding.

[R650R]

Mr Adam Something delves into the hyper loop hole. Good expose of the nothingness that arises from many of these modern great promises.
At the end there is a quote about Elon knowing hyperloop wouldn’t work but he just did it out of spite to derail Californias high speed rail project. (You’re not going to buy a Tesla if there’s a good train to commute on).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tryzj05cpX0&pp=ygUOYWRhbSBzb21ldGhpbmc%3D

[husaberg]

bad news ......
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/elon-musk-s-spacex-lost-200-starlink-satellites-in-two-months-and-nobody-knows-why-221477.html#:~:text=Knows%20Why%20%2D%20autoevolut ion-,Elon%20Musk's%20SpaceX%20Lost%20200%20Starlink%20 Satellites,Months%2C%20and%20Nobody%20Knows%20Why&text=Starlink%20satellites%20are%20expendable%20sp acecraft,about%20five%20years%20of%20service.


Starlink satellites are expendable spacecraft designed to burn when they re-enter the atmosphere after about five years of service. Still, according to tracking data, SpaceX lost an unusually high number of satellites in the past two months.

In February 2022, a solar storm caused an entire Starlink fleet of 47 satellites to re-enter the atmosphere and burn.

[sugilite]

Sometimes I'm a bit slow, I only just realized the reason the cyber truck got that name, is because it only exists on the internet :rolleyes:

[pritch]

Interesting take by a Native American.

[sugilite]

Yeah fox news reported on that, but oddly did not describe anything that he had seen, so I just assumed he did not see shit...

[pritch]

Ooooooops!