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Spuds1234
15th November 2007, 19:17
Yeah but as to a rip off well I just paid $300 for a speedo for my old beast from Auckland yet it would have cost me about half if he had one at the time :(.

Always the way isnt it.

I got a price for a stator coil for my last bike, he quoted me 130 over the phone, I got one for 80 from KN. I had to do some soldering to make it work, but it worked great.

I might just get them to take a look at it and sort it. Im pretty sure its the coil, but it might pay to get them to double check.

I do wish it was the rectifier or CDI unit though. That would have cost me about 80 to fix and I could have had it done in 20 minutes.

Transalper
16th November 2007, 07:19
Here's our plonker, by pic 2 he's starting to move again after about 3 bikes already passes tooting at him

Mikkel
16th November 2007, 15:23
Here's out plonker, by pic 2 he's starting to move again after about 3 bikes already passes tooting at him

And just to point it out, the fuckwit was reversing and you can hardly tell if his reverse lights are on. I just remember the, OH FUCK!, coming around the corner.

The Lone Rider
16th November 2007, 15:54
Here's out plonker, by pic 2 he's starting to move again after about 3 bikes already passes tooting at him

*555 or www.police.govt.nz - you got the plate and like 10 witnesses havent ya? :crazy:

Biker pancake pile up. :blink:

No FX
18th November 2007, 21:53
so a belated reply from wednesday but it was a great ride apart frm the twat heading up the hill from lyttleton i just missed him after a couple of other people and then evryone started slowing down and pulling over and for a minute i thought someone had been taken out! thankfully we all made it ok!!:2thumbsup. definately wasnt a "cruisy" ride though but i think everyone was comfortable with the pace:cool:

nice detour up the hill on the way home mikkel was a good piece of road to wind down on with some fantastic views. will try to make it againthis week but am moving house so have a good one if i dont see yiz:scooter:

Mikkel
19th November 2007, 13:10
I had an awesome ride yesterday afternoon by myself. Went along the Summit Road from Evan's Pass (Sumner end) all the way through to Gebbie's Pass. Down, around through Diamond Harbour and just kept on going up the Valley along the Purau Port Levy Road to the pass. I seemed to recall something about gravel but didn't encounter anything before the pass and the road didn't seem about to change. Anyway, there's layby at the top of the pass with plenty of room for bikes, turning around, etc. The views are nice, fuck all traffic and the road is nice and windy.
However, it's not a stretch of road where I would recommend going hard out. There are a few left-over grit patches from the winter, the alternating light levels on the western part of the Summit road makes it hard to judge the road surface properly. However, if you take it nice and smooth you can still go fast, enjoy the corners and be safe.

Yeah, don't be afraid to go riding in the hill suburbs. Not much traffic on the sideroads, lots of corners, you get to practice riding both up and down hill and all of it at forgiving speeds. :)

200BUSA
20th November 2007, 20:28
Wheres the destination this week? Any ideas?

JMemonic
20th November 2007, 20:33
I missed last week :(, hopefully will be there this week as to where lets decide at BK. Would be nice to go wave at Mikkel while he is out sailing :)

Transalper
21st November 2007, 04:24
Hi people. Don't think you'll see me tonight although the weather looks like it might be some of the best yet.

Never mind, here's a taste of what last weeks Cruisy/Not so cruisy/cruisy again ride was like....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTg4PEUoJP0

In case anyone isn't aware you can watch Youtube in full screen from their web site if you choose to use the link above then by pressing the correct button (not available in the embedded one below) on the playback controls.
This one came out quite well for a Youtube video, some of you may even recognize yourselves or the roads.

Hope you enjoy
Cheers
TA.

Here... if you prefer to watch it in the small embed box I've embedded it below...

hTg4PEUoJP0

dangerous
21st November 2007, 05:43
not bad lines, but always room for improvment. That car reversing on a blind corner should have been delt with.

Transalper
21st November 2007, 07:18
There will always be room for improvement and don't ever go thinking that where the camera is pointing is the same as where my eyes are pointing.

phoenixgtr
21st November 2007, 09:05
I'll be there tonight and I think Livs coming along too. Looks like it's gonna be a cracker weather wise!! Cheers for the vid Transalper. I'll have to watch it later. Work has YouTube blocked. Although, as I said on Wednesday, I'n not sure I really want to watch my riding!!

Dave-
21st November 2007, 10:16
need to get my seal replaced....may be along....

phoenixgtr
21st November 2007, 11:17
need to get my seal replaced....may be along....

Has the last one stopped performing tricks?? He doesn't want to balance that ball on his nose anymore? Refusing to work under those conditions?

Geez, I need some lunch

JMemonic
21st November 2007, 12:02
Has the last one stopped performing tricks?? He doesn't want to balance that ball on his nose anymore? Refusing to work under those conditions?

Reminds me of a joke about a penguin and an icecream but that's another story.

helenoftroy
21st November 2007, 12:58
Video was awesome Transalp:2thumbsup

Good for my young one to watch(Casualty) -lines etc,and there are some good bits where your looking ahead and through the corners, we had a bit of a talk about wot to try and do when you come across idiots.Its hard explaining things to learners sometimes.

The mighty DR was right up there:woohoo:

The son is very keen for tonight.We'll be there:scooter:

Mikkel
21st November 2007, 13:24
You guys have a nice ride! As I wrote in an earlier post in this thread - going up the Valley beyond Diamond harbour is a nice place with very little traffic.

Be safe, enjoy :)

Transalper
21st November 2007, 13:28
......,and there are some good bits where your looking ahead and through the corners, we had a bit of a talk about wot to try and do when you come across idiots.Its hard explaining things to learners sometimes....

hi Helenoftroy, I reckon you should go get the latest Kiwirider mag and sit down with him and watch the included DVD asap.
I do usually look through the bends but when filming I often try hold my head so that I think the camera is pointing more at the next guy while i move just my eyes further up the road. Doing it that way can mess a bit with balance though because the best weay to look up the road its to lift your head.

Transalper
21st November 2007, 13:31
You guys have a nice ride! As I wrote in an earlier post in this thread - going up the Valley beyond Diamond harbour is a nice place with very little traffic.

Be safe, enjoy :)
Shoot, if they plan to do that then I'd think about dropping todays OT and go too.

helenoftroy
21st November 2007, 15:42
hi Helenoftroy, I reckon you should go get the latest Kiwirider mag and sit down with him and watch the included DVD asap.
I do usually look through the bends but when filming I often try hold my head so that I think the camera is pointing more at the next guy while i move just my eyes further up the road. Doing it that way can mess a bit with balance though because the best weay to look up the road its to lift your head.
Will buy it tomorrow and we'll watch it thanks Transalp.

I think your filming is excellent:second:

dangerous
21st November 2007, 16:15
There will always be room for improvement and don't ever go thinking that where the camera is pointing is the same as where my eyes are pointing.

ohh man, I was not refering to you... but the other riders in the group.

Transalper
21st November 2007, 16:34
ohh man, I was not refering to you... but the other riders in the group.:innocent:that may be, but my worst dirty little secrets from that ride have been mysteriously and oh so conveniently cut out of the video:whistle:

OK ok, I'll admit it, I stuck my head way toooo far over the middle line on at least one blindish right hand bend on Gebbies.
What makes it even worse is I was aware I was about to do it and could have backed off to avoid it.
I'll blame the :devil2:camera on my head wanting to get closer to the lads in front.:pinch:

Transalper
21st November 2007, 16:43
You people now have only 15 minutes to convince me that I want to go riding more than I need the overtime. I'm running my dirt tyres today so will be definitely not chasing any sport bikes at pace this time. I hope we all got that out of our systems last week anyway.

Deviant Esq
21st November 2007, 16:50
not bad lines, but always room for improvment. That car reversing on a blind corner should have been delt with.
I quite agree, always room for improvement, there was a bit of erraticness on that ride, a bit of "artistic licence" in some creative lines that were taken!

Car reversing on the blind corner? Fookin' lucky none of us ran into the back of it!! I was up the front with Mikkel in front of me. We both went honking around that corner doing roughly 75km/h... and how we didn't end up collected by that fookin clown is pretty much down to luck - luck that there wasn't anything coming the other way. Definitely a :sick: moment.

JMemonic
21st November 2007, 20:38
Good ride tonight folks, Alex I hope you got home ok, was a great night and the light is lasting longer which might account for all the new faces tonight.

Shame we were sort of fragmented at the end there and went off different ways but such is the way of things.

fireliv
21st November 2007, 20:39
So we did the blat round sumner and round the bays to the weatsheaf. 20 riders tonight so great turn out! Also some new people which was awesome to!

Dangerous- the advice you were giving Helen and Casualty was really good and I found myself thinking about that more on the way back. So I have lots to work on and figure out! But hey practice makes perfect (I hope)


THe only downer tonight is my speedo cable broke again on the way homw. JMermonic took a look and thinks its because there is a brass feeder bit missing and that Parrot should fix it so heres hoping. Will take it to them 2morrow. Oh a JWalkers little stone incident- freak of nature that was!

Spuds1234
21st November 2007, 20:40
Good ride tonight folks, Alex I hope you got home ok, was a great night and the light is lasting longer which might account for all the new faces tonight.

Shame we were sort of fragmented at the end there and went off different ways but such is the way of things.

Yea mate got home ok.

Headlight was a bit weak though when I got home.

An excellent night for a ride and Im glad I came along. Good to see many new faces on the ride.

fireliv
21st November 2007, 20:45
:Oi: DEVIANT!!! where were you!!!

Ghost_Bullet
21st November 2007, 20:53
Ghost Bullet took a look and thinks its because there is a brass feeder bit missing and that Parrot should fix it so heres hoping.

There is another G-Bullet??? god damn I am freakin here right now... am I really at home... Just went outside to check if the bike was warm... no.. stone cold it is. Ghost Bullet is only a avatar name... now I am begining to wonder:wacko:.. what am I becoming, or has it already happened;). So glad I could help though????? :crazy:

My oh my... :blink: Even Mrs Bullet never seen me go or come home :eek5:

dangerous
21st November 2007, 20:57
Dangerous- the advice you were giving Helen and Casualty was really good and I found myself thinking about that more on the way back. So I have lots to work on and figure out! But hey practice makes perfect (I hope)
See... Im not that bad a old bastard after all aye :shifty:



OK ok, I'll admit it, I stuck my head way toooo far over the middle line on at least one blindish right hand bend on Gebbies.
What makes it even worse is I was aware I was about to do it and could have backed off to avoid it.
Ok IMHO the reason this happens to the averag rider is... apexing to soon.
by this I mean the rider is turning in to soon as they are looking to far forward, I reconmend using ya upper body weight to counter stear and ulter the direction of the bike, should you get in such a situation... remember IMHO, what may work for me may not for the next.



Oh a JWalkers little stone incident- freak of nature that was!

naaa it wasnt, he came in to hot and too much front brake... yes I seen it all, and yes it was me that picked the bike up, hell could happen to any of us, was a tad gutted for ya Walker

fireliv
21st November 2007, 21:16
There is another G-Bullet??? god damn I am freakin here right now... am I really at home... Just went outside to check if the bike was warm... no.. stone cold it is. Ghost Bullet is only a avatar name... now I am begining to wonder:wacko:.. what am I becoming, or has it already happened;). So glad I could help though????? :crazy:



Blond moment, I mean JMermonic!


See... Im not that bad a old bastard after all aye :shifty:





I wouldnt go that far......... :bleh:
but you defeinatly know ure shit and I respect that, the world makes sence again!

Transalper
21st November 2007, 21:50
....
Ok IMHO the reason this happens to the averag rider is... apexing to soon.
by this I mean the rider is turning in to soon as they are looking to far forward....
Ohhh right i know how to fix that, I'll just give it some more gas :eek5: to catch up to where I'm looking:sweatdrop:dodge:

the comment in this post does not necessarily reflect the actual opinion of the poster.
Kids, do not try that at home.

Foobin
21st November 2007, 21:56
arghh i so annoyed i wasnt able to make it out tonight, great day for it and everything.....unfortunately i was stuck at work till 9:30 PM, yes... i know.. i have no life. at least during the weekdays anyway.
will have to come out next week, hope to see good numbers again.

Deviant Esq
22nd November 2007, 06:38
:Oi: DEVIANT!!! where were you!!!
I'm sorry :o

Got home late from work... and once again, I don't have gear. I know I've ridden without it before, but it's a bad habit I don't want to get into. Still, it was such nice weather I probably should have come along.

Still... One thing people need to get into their heads is that this is supposed to be a cruisy ride, and when people are breaking the speed limit in 50 - 60km/h zones they definitely don't have that in mind. I'd hate to lose my licence (or be parted from a goodly sum of money) just by speeding in a boring 50km zone! Which is one of the reasons I got left behind last week.

Anyway, I'll try to make it to future rides.

JWALKER
22nd November 2007, 06:41
naaa it wasnt, he came in to hot and too much front brake... yes I seen it all, and yes it was me that picked the bike up, hell could happen to any of us, was a tad gutted for ya Walker


thank you for that D, that does mean alot to me:jerry:.

it was a stone that jammed between the back sproket and chain, that caused the bike to jam up though.

oh, well another trip to getting the faring sorted out, i think soon they will be keeping a spare set of faring aside for me:laugh::laugh::laugh:

phoenixgtr
22nd November 2007, 07:18
Still... One thing people need to get into their heads is that this is supposed to be a cruisy ride, and when people are breaking the speed limit in 50 - 60km/h zones they definitely don't have that in mind. I'd hate to lose my licence (or be parted from a goodly sum of money) just by speeding in a boring 50km zone! Which is one of the reasons I got left behind last week.



Didn't seem to have that problem much this week. People were very well behaved. Last week was a bit of an exception to the "cruisy" rule

EDIT: Awesome ride guys. The weather was amazing

Bren_chch
22nd November 2007, 08:43
I rode past and seen u all at parked up at BK, looked like a great turn out!!!




it was a stone that jammed between the back sproket and chain, that caused the bike to jam up though.

Explain??

JWALKER
22nd November 2007, 08:52
rode into the wheatchief car park and heard a sound and thought was stone hitting the faring, 2 sec later im on the ground with the bike on top of me.
the front wheel flicked up a stone towards the back and it went up and jammed between one of the teeth of the back sproket and the chain, you can clearly see the mark on the sproket teeth where it jammed

Bren_chch
22nd November 2007, 09:05
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JWALKER
22nd November 2007, 09:16
kind of suxed, but these things happen unfortunately.
bike will be off the road again for awhile :(

SVboy
22nd November 2007, 09:18
Jwalker-that is bad luck Mate. Hope the damage is not to bad.:(

Mikkel
22nd November 2007, 09:18
Glad to hear you had a nice ride - albeit with a bit of drama :) Good thing you're alright Jeff and I hope the bike won't be too dear to fix!

Out on the harbour it was absolutely stunning and the race was a lot of fun. I think we hit a high of about 5.5 knots with the spinnaker up ;)
Good thing I brought my motorcycle gloves along since there was a LOT of rope pulling...

JWALKER
22nd November 2007, 09:22
thanks SV, nah, it is really minor.
just carcked the indicator housing, few minor scratches and cracked the faring a bit

imdying
22nd November 2007, 09:49
Is it a factory indicator? I have two factory ones at home... one may fit your bike :yes:

JWALKER
22nd November 2007, 11:25
yeah, its fatory indicators right- hand side.

helenoftroy
22nd November 2007, 13:36
Shoot, if they plan to do that then I'd think about dropping todays OT and go too.
Nah we did'nt go there:doh:
Maybe the adventure bikes could have a wee mid-week ride over to Port Levy,Western Valley Rd-Little River and meet the others somewhere??just a thought.nigelp & niggleC mite be up for a little gravel:niceone:
D says I corner like a dirtbiker(not the best example for son riding behind)
Better get back on the shingle :wari::lol::scooter:

:innocent:that may be, but my worst dirty little secrets from that ride have been mysteriously and oh so conveniently cut out of the video:whistle:

OK ok, I'll admit it, I stuck my head way toooo far over the middle line on at least one blindish right hand bend on Gebbies.
What makes it even worse is I was aware I was about to do it and could have backed off to avoid it.
I'll blame the :devil2:camera on my head wanting to get closer to the lads in front.:pinch:

Of course it was the camera straining to get up the front:laugh:
Was that a Transalper heading up Dyers as we were coming down last night??

Transalper
22nd November 2007, 14:06
Nah we did'nt go there:doh:
Maybe the adventure bikes could have a wee mid-week ride over to Port Levy,Western Valley Rd-Little River and meet the others somewhere??just a thought.nigelp & niggleC mite be up for a little gravel:niceone:
D says I corner like a dirtbiker(not the best example for son riding behind)
Better get back on the shingle :wari::lol::scooter:
Adventure bike excursion mid weekish would be cool by me. I'm also thinking of a weekend run soon to put a mate on the back and show him the dark side, the alternative way to the beyond of Akaroa and back via Port Levy way.

So just how does a dirt biker turn?? are you tipping the bike but not yourself with it? I do that too sometimes unless I'm pushing it.


Was that a Transalper heading up Dyers as we were coming down last night??
Yep, went up Dyers, left on to Summit, right on to Evans, past the tunnel, right on to Gebbies, right on to the highway, right again at Taitapu and along Old Taitapu Rd and then got home something like 10:30pm.
Bit of a laugh, running that old squared off D606 knobbly on the rear with out J sitting on back felt like it was flat when i tipped in to the bends, took a while to get the feel for it.

imdying
22nd November 2007, 14:26
yeah, its fatory indicators right- hand side.You got mail.

dangerous
22nd November 2007, 16:30
rode into the wheatchief car park and heard a sound and thought was stone hitting the faring, 2 sec later im on the ground with the bike on top of me.
the front wheel flicked up a stone towards the back and it went up and jammed between one of the teeth of the back sproket and the chain, you can clearly see the mark on the sproket teeth where it jammed


it was a stone that jammed between the back sproket and chain, that caused the bike to jam up though.


Man.. as I said i was guttered when I saw you go down, but you are some what deluded about the rear locking up.

it went like this... you were buzed at over 200kph by BBB comming from the back of the pack, you figgered you would take chase but the 6 hundie couldent avoid letting me through, BBB and myself didnt brake a great deal for the kink were as you and Kawa4 bailed out, this heated you up so ya gunned the bike and came in to the pub car park a tad hotish... you were going faster than you thought heated up by the silly speeds up the road, the front locked up in the gravel (if you heard a noise it may have been a stone rubbing the front guard) and you lost ballance.

Now remember i saw it all including you being stuck under the bike... I ran over and helped ya out.
I noted that there was NO rear lock up marks and a small lock upo from the front.
In a nut shell you locked the front up the bike went full lock and you lost ballance.

As as I already said, could have been any of us, but some times experience pays off, especially when you have a fancy paint job on a high powered bike.

Transalper
22nd November 2007, 18:10
Sorry Jwalker, don't want to sound like I'm ganging up on you but the chain/sprocket locked wheel mix sounded like a bit of a reach to me, it can happen but would that cause a fall. I'd like to have seen the marks left in the dirt from that. You sure the stone didn't get in there as a result of the fall rather than as the cause?
I wasn't there, wish I was, but I got to say I tend to think a rear wheel lock up wouldn't dump you on your ass with out leaving a huge skid mark, and that's if it was even able to dump you at all. I'd have thought if you had slowed enough to get in to the carpark driveway (and I know it's not much of a turn in from the Governers bay side) then you'd be able to ride a rear wheel lock until the bike stopped... unless you grabbed the front brake in some kind of knee jerk type reaction when you felt the rear lock.

So it seems there may be conflicting opinions on this, and you may never agree, but at least keep the possibility that big D could be correct as well and if he is how would you handle it next time. If you are correct then how would you handle that next time too?

I'm now thinking I should refresh my memory by jamming my rear brake on a few times in some gravel bends or even the entrance to the Wheatcheif, but from memory (and remember I've done a fair bit of touring on 1000cc sport tourers on gravel too) a rear wheel lockup in the shingle.. wheel will only step out if the bike is tipped over, you can control which way it steps by tipping the bike. If you hold the bike upright the rear wheel will usually just skip a bit from side to side but doesn't usually actually overtake the front wheel so you can just ride it out.

A small after thought, where was that judderbar in relation to the fall? That thing didn't launch you did it?

If anyone can point out big holes in my post, now's a good time to do so, I might just learn something.

Bren_chch
22nd November 2007, 20:10
Sounds like u all ride to fast! :devil2:

you should know better at your age dangerous and you Transalper :oi-grr:

dangerous
22nd November 2007, 20:13
Sounds like u all ride to fast! :devil2:

you should know better at your age dangerous and you Transalper :oi-grr:

what did we do :apint:

Tacoman
22nd November 2007, 21:12
nice video mate awesome footage and editing

helenoftroy
22nd November 2007, 21:12
Adventure bike excursion mid weekish would be cool by me. I'm also thinking of a weekend run soon to put a mate on the back and show him the dark side, the alternative way to the beyond of Akaroa and back via Port Levy way.

So just how does a dirt biker turn?? are you tipping the bike but not yourself with it? I do that too sometimes unless I'm pushing it.
.
Got to use these adventure bikes for what they're made for:yes:

And yep-got to concentrate on keeping my body in line with bike

Tacoman
22nd November 2007, 21:25
And just to point it out, the fuckwit was reversing and you can hardly tell if his reverse lights are on. I just remember the, OH FUCK!, coming around the corner.

tell me about it I pull the finger to the idiot and as Mik said the MARICOn reverse what are ya thinking!!! :spanking:

JMemonic
22nd November 2007, 22:46
A photo of the sprocket after being attacked by a stone. Sorry it not the best but I did not have my macro tubes with me. One of the other shots kind of shows a slide mark in the shingle behind the rear wheel.

I anyone wants any digital copies of the shots I take on our runs just let me know in full size jpeg format they are about 8 megs per shot.

dangerous
23rd November 2007, 05:09
One of the other shots kind of shows a slide mark in the shingle behind the rear wheel.
There was NO mark behind the rear wheel, ill stake my Guzzi on it.
A stone inbetween the chain and sprocket will rotate with the wheel, it would have to be a bloody hard rock to not crumble, certinly looks like a ston has at some point cought up in the sprocket, but from what I saw it wasnt the problem.
JW, if the damage to the fairings not bad enough to claim ins then I know a guy that does touch ups, as for the can, are you able to rotate the can and rerivit the ends so as the dent is underneith?

alley cat
23rd November 2007, 05:18
Ohhhhh it sounds like you people are havin good times on these wed rides, i just might have 2 have a nosey.
The wording tricked me! cruisey.... i know i ride a harley occasionally, but im just not a cruisy rider, its the voices that make me ride stupid:wacko:

JWALKER
23rd November 2007, 07:04
JW, if the damage to the fairings not bad enough to claim ins then I know a guy that does touch ups, as for the can, are you able to rotate the can and rerivit the ends so as the dent is underneith?

unforunately it has damaged through the paint on some farings and the is a slight gap in the seal of the can too.

my excess is only $300 and i think the vinyls would exceed that.
thank you for the offer though D

as for stone or no stone, i don't really care, it was learning experience and i am going to leave it at that.

SpeedyGirl
23rd November 2007, 07:12
Ohhhhh it sounds like you people are havin good times on these wed rides, i just might have 2 have a nosey.
The wording tricked me! cruisey.... i know i ride a harley occasionally, but im just not a cruisy rider, its the voices that make me ride stupid:wacko:

Come on girl, get your butt out there haven't see you in ages! it was a great ride, need more chicks to even out the numbers :bleh:

NiggleC
23rd November 2007, 07:52
Like any group ride there is a quicker group at the front and a more relaxed group following along. Take your pick - we all have a good time.

phoenixgtr
23rd November 2007, 08:24
Like any group ride there is a quicker group at the front and a more relaxed group following along. Take your pick - we all have a good time.

Exactly. Ride at your own pace.

Thats the important thing. Never feel like you have to keep up with the fast guys at the front, especially if you're not up to it. And on the other hand, don't feel like you have to "cruise" along with the slower guys. As long as you know where you're going theres no reason why you can't get there before the rest of us. Just don't do any stupid shit that would endanger anyone and everyones happy.

alley cat
23rd November 2007, 09:02
Come on girl, get your butt out there haven't see you in ages! it was a great ride, need more chicks to even out the numbers :bleh:

Thanks m8, be good to have a yak!


Exactly. Ride at your own pace.

Thats the important thing. Never feel like you have to keep up with the fast guys at the front, especially if you're not up to it. And on the other hand, don't feel like you have to "cruise" along with the slower guys. As long as you know where you're going theres no reason why you can't get there before the rest of us. Just don't do any stupid shit that would endanger anyone and everyones happy.

No stupid shit from me dont worry:chase:
Just lots of random chit chat.

phoenixgtr
23rd November 2007, 10:56
Just lots of random chit chat.

Well you are a chick. I wouldn't expect anything less :p

No FX
23rd November 2007, 19:48
sounds like i missed a great ride but unfortunately i had to shift house:weep:- although it was a tuff choice between being homeless for a night or going for a ride i realised if i was homeless then so was my bike and i didnt want it being attacked by nature overnight:eek:


cheers to transalp for posting the vid of the ride the other week:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:apint:

Transalper
23rd November 2007, 20:19
cheers to transalp for posting the vid of the ride the other week:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:apint:

Thanks everyone, I enjoyed doing it. If people are keen and ya ask nicely I'll bring the camera out to play again sometime... when I get some more blank tape.
If some one has some more specific ideas on what to record on a ride I'm open to suggestion on that too. Most of what I do is just done on the fly, it's a bit hard to plan ahead as everyone is busy doing there own thing.
I would however like to sometime do a tank or handlebar mounted recording sometime, and a backward facing one too. Maybe I should come out and play more often. Problem is I can record a two hour tape in two hours, but it can take a month of my could be out riding time to cut it down in to a watchable video.

Blue Meanie
25th November 2007, 20:47
Liked the video. Reckon I would probably get my arse kicked - big time! :spanking:

Transalper
25th November 2007, 21:13
Liked the video. Reckon I would probably get my arse kicked - big time! :spanking:

If by that you mean you think you won't keep up, there are usually more slower riders and some slower bikes than fast ones, I spent half the video chasing a couple of the faster guys.

No slow rider should have second thoughts on coming along, it's for them to mix and learn that the ride was intended.
I reckon you should come along and say hello, I'll be there again this week, no camera this round.
I'm going to hang with the man on the NZ250 this round if he shows up, we'll be focused on riding smooth more than speed, and my partner is talking about tagging along on her next free Wednesday evening too.

Dave-
25th November 2007, 23:40
i wont be along again...fxr needs fork seals replaced (onces gone) so im taking it super easy and that gets done thursday.

helenoftroy
26th November 2007, 01:38
Cant make it this week but hopefully Casualty will come.

Would be good for him to follow others - maybe some new roads we have'nt been on yet....hes got his favorites already tho(Evans Pass:ride: is one)

He has'nt finished his exams yet tho:doh:

Deviant Esq
26th November 2007, 06:26
I'm going to hang with the man on the NZ250 this round if he shows up...
:shifty:

A little birdy told me the infamous bugger should be there this week, provided the weather doesn't get in the way! :buggerd:

Booked my full licence test on Friday... it's on the morning of the 5th of December, earliest I could get it. They were trying to say the 17th was the earliest, bah, wait another month?! Argh!

Everyone have a good weekend? I did, was on a weekend away in the Marlborough Sounds. Very nice, though too bloody hot for me! Scooped the nation's high the three days I was there, over 30 yesterday! :sweatdrop

phoenixgtr
26th November 2007, 07:18
:shifty:

A little birdy told me the infamous bugger should be there this week, provided the weather doesn't get in the way! :buggerd:



Oh my god!! Hes actually going to be there!? :bleh:

Happy Birthday for Friday mate.


Blue Meanie. You'll be fine mate. Alot of the people that turn up are on 250s and we'll never let anyone get left behind

Transalper
26th November 2007, 09:28
Those of you who have been looking at and thinking of doing a twin passes kind of ride might like to have a peak at this post (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1312549&postcount=48)to get an idea of distance/time for a 550km run at nice ticket safe speeds.

Weather looks good for Wednesday so far, see you then. Don't suppose you'd want to push on to Duvauchelle or something?.

phoenixgtr
26th November 2007, 09:56
Duvachelle could be a go. I've been thinking about it for a couple of weeks now. We would get back quite late

Transalper
26th November 2007, 15:02
Wear your clear visors and don't stop for too long before heading back.
It's still only about an hour and 10 to 20 minutes each way from BK.
Diamond Harbour via Evans pass is claimed 1 hour 10 minutes.
(all times approximated by google maps of course)
What's the licence restrictions now days for them not on a full? 10pm I think, should be getting home closer to 9:30pm.

phoenixgtr
26th November 2007, 15:38
10pm and 10 characters

fireliv
26th November 2007, 16:51
Well as a slowy I'm keen to try something new. Just have to be back by 10.

Transalper
26th November 2007, 17:25
We'll just have to take a little notice of the time it took to arrive and keep that in mind to make sure we're on the way home in time.
I imagine a regroup of sorts or at least stop and check up on people at Little River, note the time there too, if only for future reference.

Most people have learned that as the sun goes down the temperature often falls too, so be prepared.

Transalper
26th November 2007, 17:33
Anyone happen to know if the Duvauchelle pub will be open?
There's always the Hill Top, but it's such a pity to get that far and not take in the other side of that hill.

Deviant Esq
26th November 2007, 18:26
...it's such a pity to get that far and not take in the other side of that hill.
Quite so. I really like that hill, it's a great deal of fun. The only thing I like less so is having to get all the way there on the NZ, which isn't so keen on the open road. I get a bit of a sore arse as well, the seat isn't so flash for long straight boring roads... :whistle:

Transalper
26th November 2007, 19:01
:laugh: if you were adventuring the longest straight you'd need to ride is only about.... oh no, that's right, using shingle roads you can get all the way to Akaroa on corners alone unless you count the bit going past the park near Gebbies.:woohoo::bleh:

Deviant Esq
26th November 2007, 19:21
:laugh: if you were adventuring the longest straight you'd need to ride is only about.... oh no, that's right, using shingle roads you can get all the way to Akaroa on corners alone unless you count the bit going past the park near Gebbies.:woohoo::bleh:
I'd quite like to give that a try actually....

Anyone got a spare dirt bike I can borrow on an entirely unrelated matter?! :whistle:

Transalper
26th November 2007, 19:26
I can take you proper off-roading, got a sometimes spare low powered dirt bike, but don't have a spare road reged one that'll take you on the roads.

Deviant Esq
26th November 2007, 19:40
I'd quite like to give it a go. Doesn't matter if it's not road registered... a chance to see much more stuff I wouldn't normally get to see only riding on the road - good views / photo ops maybe?

I'm keen if you're keen. You'd probably have to be able to put up with teaching me how to ride offroad though! :eek:

Dave-
26th November 2007, 22:51
do you head up to the waimak transalper? i notice alot of dirt bikers go up there on the weekend and get muddy

Transalper
26th November 2007, 23:04
We go all over the place, the Waimack Christchurch side starting at Miners Rd (just past Orania Park) going upstream is my prefered, sometimes I'll start further up. Otherwise there are heaps of organised Trailrides on farmland if you have the $40 admission as well as fuel money to drive out there and for the bike when you're there.
lol, i just PMed you on another matter.

helenoftroy
27th November 2007, 02:03
I'd quite like to give that a try actually....

Anyone got a spare dirt bike I can borrow on an entirely unrelated matter?! :whistle:
Damm -I sold our XLR200 just a couple of weeks ago
Sam(casualty) was'nt riding it much & he got the CBR
Would have been great for you guys to have some fun on :clap:

I can take you proper off-roading, got a sometimes spare low powered dirt bike, but don't have a spare road reged one that'll take you on the roads.
Introduce them to the Dark Side Transalper:devil2:

phoenixgtr
27th November 2007, 06:45
I'd be really keen to give it a go sometime too!!

Transalper
27th November 2007, 07:14
Damm -I sold our XLR200 just a couple of weeks ago
Sam(casualty) was'nt riding it much & he got the CBR
Would have been great for you guys to have some fun on :clap:



The XLR200 would have been perfect for the proper shingle road introduction.

There are a fair few forrestry roads and other places leading up to the Waimack gorge that resemble your average adventuring road so we have enough to work with on a dedicated off road bike.

Introduce them to the Dark Side Transalper:devil2:
And yep, i'm trying.
They should at least loose a lot of that roadworks and shingley bits fear in the process.

Deviant Esq
27th November 2007, 19:10
Absolutely, never a bad thing. Road works don't worry me too much, nor do shingle roads really, but I'm sure a bit of extra confidence with them, as well as the technique to be able to handle them more easily - can't hurt, got to be good overall in the event you do happen across an unexpected patch of gravel.

I don't know that I'll be "converted" as such, I like road bikes too much... but one of each? Might be an idea... :shifty:

dangerous
27th November 2007, 20:11
can't hurt, got to be good overall in the event you do happen across an unexpected patch of gravel.
hehehehe... like when you were trying too hard to keep on the tail of a FXR150 and arsed up :apint:
Its how ya learn.

Deviant Esq
27th November 2007, 20:46
hehehehe... like when you were trying too hard to keep on the tail of a FXR150 and arsed up :apint:
Trying too hard? Pff, quite the opposite. Bah, that was nothing to do with gravel or anything like it - I simply wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. Wasn't especially trying to keep up, just off in a bit of a dream world... But yep, I sure did arse that one up, plain and simple. Felt like a right chook about it afterwards, that corner is hardly even a corner. Guess it can happen to anyone though.

helenoftroy
27th November 2007, 23:30
Absolutely, never a bad thing. Road works don't worry me too much, nor do shingle roads really, but I'm sure a bit of extra confidence with them, as well as the technique to be able to handle them more easily - can't hurt, got to be good overall in the event you do happen across an unexpected patch of gravel.

I don't know that I'll be "converted" as such, I like road bikes too much... but one of each? Might be an idea... :shifty:

We all come to this motorbiking thing from different directions dont we
I've never owned a road bike....yet:doh:
But I'm getting old and the idea of having one of each.....mmmm:woohoo::drool::love:

dangerous
28th November 2007, 05:15
Trying too hard? Pff, quite the opposite. Bah, that was nothing to do with gravel or anything like it - I simply wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. Wasn't especially trying to keep up, just off in a bit of a dream world... But yep, I sure did arse that one up, plain and simple. Felt like a right chook about it afterwards, that corner is hardly even a corner. Guess it can happen to anyone though.

Give that man a DB :2thumbsup

Transalper
28th November 2007, 06:10
Emailed the Duvauchelle Hotel, this is their response.

Thanks for your email
Wednesdays is our happy hour from 5 to 7pm, if not to busy we are usually shut by 9- 9.30
Kitchen is usually shut by 8.30pm
Thanks LynSo I reckon we're in business if we go there.
Can't say how much the :drinkup: are though, lets go :ride: to find out.:sherlock:

imdying
28th November 2007, 06:26
Ring the Duvauchelle servo next... the RGV drinks 96 like a whore guzzles cheap red wine :rofl: I guess I'd make it there and back, but not really sure yet....

cruza
28th November 2007, 08:04
Ring the Duvauchelle servo next... the RGV drinks 96 like a whore guzzles cheap red wine :rofl: I guess I'd make it there and back, but not really sure yet....

probably best to fill at little river ,can't imagine duvauchelle will be open late!. Prices last time I was at the pub there were same or better than in town ,have matsons beer range on tap ,which was cheaper than the matsons brewery, nice beer garden out back .Looking at the weather at the moment ,it should be a nice night. Stuck being house dad today :doh::baby: so blat on bike tonight will be great.

phoenixgtr
28th November 2007, 08:23
Excellent!! Should be a cracker of a night

Spuds1234
28th November 2007, 11:29
How much of the ride is going to be after dark?

Im trying to decide weather or not my battery can make it.

cruza
28th November 2007, 12:02
How much of the ride is going to be after dark?

Im trying to decide weather or not my battery can make it.

sunset is 855pm, so twillight till about 915pm?? just much sure your back on the road to chch a bit before 830pm sure there will be others who want to be home before it gets to late , I'll be one. just hope the lake flys aren't to bad this evening splat splat:dodge: splat

Foobin
28th November 2007, 12:37
So where are we riding to tonight? duvauchelle seems kinda far away giving that i can't ride past 10pm or faster than 70km/h.

onearmedbandit
28th November 2007, 12:52
You'll be fine Foobin, home easily in time.

Unfortunately I will be a no show, got electrical issues with the bike still to sort out. Have a good one all.

phoenixgtr
28th November 2007, 13:15
So where are we riding to tonight? duvauchelle seems kinda far away giving that i can't ride past 10pm or faster than 70km/h.

It is going to be a long ride but you're certainly not going to be the only one who needs to get back by 10pm. In saying that, if you don't feel like you're up to it I would sit this week out. I'm not saying you're not welcome. If you do come along we'll look after you, just be prepared. Next week we'll return to shorter length rides

imdying
28th November 2007, 13:20
And I'll probably be stabbing said GSXRs electrical problems with my multimeter, but you guys will definitely enjoy the ride, it's an excellent road. Duvauchelle really isn't that far away, and it's a fantastic ride.

Transalper
28th November 2007, 15:23
So where are we riding to tonight? duvauchelle seems kinda far away giving that i can't ride past 10pm or faster than 70km/h.
Come out as far as Little River, we should stop there and anyone feeling they have done there dash can group up and head back from there. If there's only one person wanting to go home from there and wants a buddy then I'll do it, I'll escort you back to city limits. If I'm back too early then I'll go to the movies, want to see Resident Evil: Extinction before they take it off the big screen anyway. Otherwise I'll just about turn again and see how far I get before bumping in to the rest on their return run.

It's a plan, and I'm fine with it.

fireliv
28th November 2007, 16:18
I'll be there foobin, so no worries, I dont mind sticking with ya at the back cos I haven't been past little river before

JMemonic
28th November 2007, 16:50
cya soon folks

Deviant Esq
28th November 2007, 19:02
:Oops:

Okay, so the decision was made to head to Duvauchelle out via Halswell and Motukarara. But for me... I've got a lot to get through this evening, so I made the decision to head off for a fang over Dyers Pass Road and Gebbies Pass before returning home.

Unfortunately, I was at the front of the pack and upon reaching the Colombo Street intersection, I waved and turned left onto Colombo, intending to split off from the group (them carrying on up Brougham St) and head up Dyers for a blat. No such luck - half the pack, about a dozen bikes, followed me up Colombo Street and Dyers Pass Road.

...err, sorry guys, my bad... :o

I decided once I hit Dyers Pass Road and they'd followed me that far, I might as well make it fun and have a good fang up the hill. Had an excellent run (think I only had to pass one car) up the hill to the light at the top... hope it was fun for those following me! :niceone:

Hope you all managed to meet up further down the road, and are all relaxing at Duvauchelle... around about now all going well!

:pinch:

dangerous
28th November 2007, 19:31
yeah well Iv noticed that the ride through town is a disaster waiting to happen, to many bikes all to keen to get mobile... the meeting place does neeed to be moved IMHO and theres a few that need to learn some manners, other wise all rather good really, but its only time.

Foobin
28th November 2007, 20:44
well that ride was certainly fun, especially in the hills towards the end. Had the seat eatting into my ass the whole back back which was also exciting.

Deviant Esq
28th November 2007, 21:03
yeah well Iv noticed that the ride through town is a disaster waiting to happen, to many bikes all to keen to get mobile... the meeting place does neeed to be moved IMHO and theres a few that need to learn some manners, other wise all rather good really, but its only time.
Well... can't say I've seen any bad manners or any disasters waiting to happen on the Weds Night rides I've been on... well, at least not anything worth mentioning... but having said that I know exactly what you mean, the ride through town to get to wherever we want to go, with so many bikes all travelling in a group (and trying not to get left behind), can be a bit of a nightmare, especially if you don't like breaking the speed limit just to keep up!

Maybe somewhere less in the middle of the business district could be the go? Say... the Princess Margaret Hospital carpark, down by the river there? That'd be a good spot I reckon, easy access to both Halswell and Dyers Pass Road if you want to have a crack at that...

Thoughts?

fireliv
28th November 2007, 21:08
:2thumbsup
well that ride was certainly fun, especially in the hills towards the end. Had the seat eatting into my ass the whole back back which was also exciting.

Well thats an interesting image............:sick:

Goood ride even though everyone got split up. Deviant might have been a better thought that if you did not intend to ride with the group, to either have not come or left after everyone as not to confuse the group. THe meeting place is fine, I just think that we need to get EVERYONE in for a talk on where we are going and where the regroup are going to be.

I want to say a big thank you to JMemonic and Transalper. J- you are always prepared to stick with us slower ones, and it really does help to have you around and let us know how we are getting on. And Transalper for tonight- I learned heaps from following you tonight, and it really helped get my confidence up!!! Cheers you 2 rock !!!! Would be good to see some more of you "faster" ones taking a Newbie under your wing and sharing the biker love!

Transalper
28th November 2007, 21:23
Was a bit confusing.
We (about 6 or 7 of us) got to Halswell and stopped, discussed the fact that we were some of the last to leave BK and were a bit sad to have been left behind with no one to teach us anything.
So on we went in our own little group, out trough Old Tai Tapu Rd and stopped at Gebbies, still no sign of anyone wanting to regroup so on we went again.
Several fast guys past us... going the wrong way. Guess they are checking up on us, at least that's something?
We stopped in Little River to check up on the learners in our bunch, and use the facilitys. There were a couple of others waiting for us but they left us again soon after we arrived.
Then of again on our own again, up and over the hill, was a very nice ride.
I timed the trip from the start of halswell. Took us 1 hour 10 minutes even with all the stops and legel limits not being exceeded.
Plenty of time for drink and chips.
Several people left again within minutes of us arriving, oh well, good on them, guess they enjoyed their ride, would have been nice to have run in to them on the road here or there along the way. :crybaby:
When we were ready the last four of us tootled off too, and every one was home with plenty of time to spare... well I got home at 9:45pm, so if I was on a licence restriction I'd have been safe and sound.
Cruisy Wednesdays to Duvauchelle... no problem.

This is all the photos I took, forgot the camera was set to VGA mode so haven't bothered to compress them any further.

Transalper
28th November 2007, 21:25
Say... the Princess Margaret Hospital carpark, down by the river there? That'd be a good spot I reckon, easy access to both Halswell and Dyers Pass Road if you want to have a crack at that...

Thoughts?

Reckon that'd be perfect.:niceone:

The meeting place is fine, I just think that we need to get EVERYONE in for a talk on where we are going and where the regroup are going to be.or to finally have a couple of well defined regroup places that every one knows.

Little D, got to say I tend to agree with maybe you should have been last to leave.

JMemonic
28th November 2007, 21:44
yeah well Iv noticed that the ride through town is a disaster waiting to happen, to many bikes all to keen to get mobile... the meeting place does need to be moved IMHO and theres a few that need to learn some manners, other wise all rather good really, but its only time.

Dangerous if by disaster you mean everyone getting split up due to lights, and bad manners you are referring to the fact that some folks are very keen to get moving I would have to agree, and being one who travels at the rear of the group I guess we miss any of the other things you might have seen.


Maybe somewhere less in the middle of the business district could be the go? Say... the Princess Margaret Hospital carpark, down by the river there? That'd be a good spot I reckon, easy access to both Halswell and Dyers Pass Road if you want to have a crack at that...

Thoughts?

PMH is good if we are going in those directions but BK does offer the route out through Sumner and the possibility of a north bound route.


well that ride was certainly fun, especially in the hills towards the end. Had the seat eating into my ass the whole back back which was also exciting.

Dude that is far to much information and conjures up a mental image of you seat turning into a sharks jaw.


I just think that we need to get EVERYONE in for a talk on where we are going and where the regroup are going to be.


That I think is perhaps one of the biggest keys to avoiding everyone not getting lost and split up.


I want to say a big thank you to JMemonic and Transalper. J- you are always prepared to stick with us slower ones, and it really does help to have you around and let us know how we are getting on. And Transalper for tonight- I learned heaps from following you tonight, and it really helped get my confidence up!!! Cheers you 2 rock !!!! Would be good to see some more of you "faster" ones taking a Newbie under your wing and sharing the biker love!

No worries about sticking there with you guys, the only thing is going down the hills where the bike really does push me down hill and my brakes get a work out, often in the wrong places :shit::eek:

Yes thanks to Transalper for the input to those guys it was good to see, and I could not agree more re getting some of those guys with the experience giving us all there input and tips.

Dave-
28th November 2007, 23:05
mope...all the best rides happen when i cant come :(

sounds like a blast guys, to be honest I'd rather meet near a dairy or supermarket where I can get some water or something I've forgotten before we leave, to be fair though I've only needed water once before....

princess margret hostipal (yes hostipal) sounds ok I guess, BK can be a bit of a nightmare going through all those sents of lights.

I know dangerous wants to meet in halswell but to be honest I dont really care where we meet, I'd come if we met in rakia or northlands mall...

Spuds1234
28th November 2007, 23:44
Damn sounds like I missed a good ride tonight. Unfortunatly work called and that was that really.

Good news is that I get my stator fixed on the 4/12, just in time for the next ride. Im looking forward to being able to go on random rides in the middle of a clear night and seeing all the stars so clearly and having an empty road all to myself.

As for whats been said about tonights ride, here are the parts that piqued my intrest:


yeah well Iv noticed that the ride through town is a disaster waiting to happen, to many bikes all to keen to get mobile... the meeting place does neeed to be moved IMHO and theres a few that need to learn some manners, other wise all rather good really, but its only time.

Last week I saw someone nearly get wiped out doing a lane change just down the road from BK. It seemed like a pretty arrogant action at the time and if the car had of done almost anything but slow down I think they would have been toast. It looked pretty close from where I was (at the back of the group).

I didnt catch who it was though.

Perhaps a few of us think that we are invincible when riding through town in a group that size.

I dont think the meeting place needs changing though, I just think that people need to take due care when riding though town as a group. Dont get caught up in the excitement or the rush when leaving. Just settle into your own ride as quickly as possible and dont try and keep up if it means doing something stupid like speeding or overtaking when one probably shouldnt.

I know its hard though. I remember the first time I rode in a big group through town. It was magic, and I shall remember it for a long time. Couldnt wipe the grin off my face.




Unfortunately, I was at the front of the pack and upon reaching the Colombo Street intersection, I waved and turned left onto Colombo, intending to split off from the group (them carrying on up Brougham St) and head up Dyers for a blat. No such luck - half the pack, about a dozen bikes, followed me up Colombo Street and Dyers Pass Road.

Sounds like a good ride. Rather than not coming next time if your planning to go somewhere else as someone suggested, perhaps you could tell the tail end charlie and just leave the BK carpark last or pull over in town.

Id rather see people turn up at the carpark and be social and not do the ride than not turn up at all. Its nice seeing all the bikes and talking to the different people that ride bikes.


Was a bit confusing.
We (about 6 or 7 of us) got to Halswell and stopped, discussed the fact that we were some of the last to leave BK and were a bit sad to have been left behind with no one to teach us anything.


Reckon we meet at the BK carpark, then just out of town, then at our destination. If the ride is to be a long one then we should meet somewhere along the ride aswell.

I reckon it would be way more impressive/raise the coolness factor for us all to turn up at our destination at once rather than twaddle in in drips and drabs.



I know dangerous wants to meet in halswell but to be honest I dont really care where we meet, I'd come if we met in rakia or northlands mall...

Damn straight. Thats how I feel aswell.

The Rakia might be a bit far though ;)

dangerous
29th November 2007, 05:03
Would be good to see some more of you "faster" ones taking a Newbie under your wing and sharing the biker love!
All you need to do is 'ask'... but remember someone whom you think is good may be teaching you bad habits.
IMHO what some one like ya self needs is not only to follow some one that 'thinks' they know what they are doing (*includes me) but some book and leture work, questions ansered sort a thing, another words people need an expernation as to why you do or dont take a certin line, also being a live and good rider is about survile another words 'expect the unexpected'

*my back ground is: 25yrs non stop on road riding estamated 200,000kms and 3yrs racing around NZ's tracks including street races, but most importently the love of riding... and I still dont know it all and never will.

dangerous
29th November 2007, 05:13
Dangerous if by disaster you mean everyone getting split up due to lights, and bad manners you are referring to the fact that some folks are very keen to get moving I would have to agree.
NO, I mean someone is going to be wiped out, and yes to the reason why.


Last week I saw someone nearly get wiped out doing a lane change just down the road from BK.
I saw that too, and it is a perfect example of what I men.


Say... the Princess Margaret Hospital carpark, Thoughts?
agred

laRIKin
29th November 2007, 06:24
yeah well Iv noticed that the ride through town is a disaster waiting to happen, to many bikes all to keen to get mobile... the meeting place does neeed to be moved IMHO and theres a few that need to learn some manners, other wise all rather good really, but its only time.

I agree and that is why I peeled off when I went to go for a ride with this group on a Wednesday and then I just did my own thing.

I have spent time over the years, on the side of the road with busted bikes and riders.
It is not fun and do not look forward to doing it again.

Now I'm not saying all are bad, but the ones I seen was enough.

And some of the comments just show that some do not know any better.

imdying
29th November 2007, 06:26
Don't undertake cars. Ever. Especially when you're at the front of the group... lets face it, where are you going to go. Besides which, all the stories you hear about road rage from cagers, that's the sort of shite that brings it on. You know who you were :tsk:

SVboy
29th November 2007, 07:51
Some good points made-but lets not undermine the cruisy wednesday rides concept-lets face it, what a great turn-out. It was a shame we all love Deviant so much and follow him like the riding God that he is, and it did lead to the group being split. Not D's fault really,we didnt communicate as a group before leaving.
SO,perhaps we need to congregate before leaving and clearly decide whats going to happen. That suggests a bit of leadership might be required to create consensus, and I suggest some of the experienced bikers like OAB or Dangerous might consider raising their voices so all riders are in the know as to what the route is going to be, and if there is to be two groups[fast & slow] I enjoyed last night, but didnt feel good about leaving the others, because the whole ethos behind these rides is KB support and fun, not "us and them".
I also think meeting at Princess Margeret hospital makes good sense-less lights to split the group. Personal rider discipline-bit of a toughy really-we dont want to be regulated like sheep, we dont want to project a negative public image-I guess it comes down to personal common sense and if someones being an ass, then I quiet word in the ear would not go astray....

SpeedyGirl
29th November 2007, 07:55
I went last night on the ride and have a couple of thoughts for this

Being one of the ones left behind last night it was frustrating, my understanding of the rides on Wednesdays was to just cruise and also a chance for some new riders to get some experience and learn from some of the 'better' riders. Being that I still have a lot to learn and am still fairly slow I like to be able to relax and practise and I’m sure some of the newer riders would appreciate the help as well. It’s no fun being slower than the rest of the group and feel like you are left behind and not part fun, this can also make you feel like not joining the ride! How are we meant to encourage new riders if we won’t help them learn???!!!!!!

It’s all fun to go for a blat and go fast, so maybe we need to split the group slightly at the beginning of the ride so that the more experienced riders that don’t mind helping stay with the slower riders and the ones that want to go fast go first.

We also need clear discussion on where we are all heading and the stop points.....just in case we do lose someone on the way, I thought the reason we all meet up is to ride together, what’s the point if no-one waits?????

Last thought.... the meeting place is great and central but we lose the entire group in the lights...... and at that time of night BK is fairly busy with people getting tea. We need a new meeting spot that is central and easy to get out of......... somewhere like the Hagley Park Car Park (between the parks where the Tennis Courts are) or Princess Margaret Hospital or even the Powerstore Carpark, just away from BK?????

Rant over

:done:

imdying
29th November 2007, 08:08
I cruised a lot of the way out behind a VFR400, was a nice jaunt up over the staircase out to little river. We just ambled along somewhere in the middle, let the faster guys get on with their thing, let the slower guys cruise at their own pace too.

Had a bit of a problem going over the hilltop though... I'm clearly waaay too fat and too tall for an RGV250. I'm up and down the box like a mad thing all the time, but on left handers I've gotta be setup for the corner so I've time to move my foot back on the peg, else it's all (i.e. my foot) decking out. Hanging off like a monkey will help the ground clearance, but really it was just shitty body positioning (that and a bike that is clearly under sprung for my weight). Mucho concentration needed to be smooth :yes:


How are we meant to encourage new riders if we won’t help them learn???!!!!!!Well, nobody asked me to follow them and see how they're getting on... and given my bike is suited to running, that's what I'll be doing if nobody indicates to me that they'd like a hand :yes: I know for sure that either oab or roadkill would never turn down anyone who asked for their help :hug:

Transalper
29th November 2007, 08:22
Can be a bit hard to know who's who and who knows what.
Maybe some people should be offering to help if they think they can contribute to a novices experience instead of waiting to be asked.
When I hang back a bit I usually come up behind slower riders and can see if they look like they are lagging and could use a hand, I often pop round them and back off to stay just in front of them to help guide them, if they get closer I speed up a bit too, if I start loosing them, I'll back off again. If they want to go past and make their own lines I hope they'll use their blinker as they close the gap and I'll let them go.

Transalper
29th November 2007, 08:34
Guess it could be a bit intimidating going up to someone you don't really know and asking them to hang back with you, also guess it might feel a bit like your risking insulting someone if you go up and offer them help just because they turned up on a 250.
Maybe that needs to be part of the group hug, hands up the volunteers, hands up the people who'd like a bit of guidance.

imdying
29th November 2007, 08:37
Guess it could be a bit intimidating going up to someone you don't really know and asking them to hang back with you, also guess it might feel a bit like your risking insulting someone if you go up and offer them help just because they turned up on a 250.I was on a 250 and nobody offered to help me :weep:

cruza
29th November 2007, 08:45
OK OK ,don't bitch :girlfight:to much Last nite was a good ride , nice turn out ,nice distance. You'll never get everyone riding at the some speed, but as the norm people of similar speeds group up. Main thing is agreed route before leaving(group yak), and if your not taking it----don't go in the FRONT:spanking:.There would have been a regroup in halswell if that the dyers pass detour didn't happen. Agree pmh is a bit quieter maybe a better place, but as long as a regroup is planned ie halswell etc ,theres no real issue with lights. As with leaving times sorry speedy girl:love:, 830pm exit for us was to hit halswell on dusk, we still had 3/4hr at the pub :beer: and a fun ride both ways in daylight. I had a social cruisy ride , :2thumbsup

helenoftroy
29th November 2007, 08:47
mope...all the best rides happen when i cant come :(

Yeah Casualty and I missed last night too:(

Can be a bit hard to know who's who and who knows what.
Maybe some people should be offering to help if they think they can contribute to a novices experience instead of waiting to be asked.
When I hang back a bit I usually come up behind slower riders and can see if they look like they are lagging and could use a hand, I often pop round them and back off to stay just in front of them to help guide them, if they get closer I speed up a bit too, if I start loosing them, I'll back off again. If they want to go past and make their own lines I hope they'll use their blinker as they close the gap and I'll let them go.

That sounds excellent
Both of us need all the help we can get.Any guidance/advise & help gratefully accepted:scooter::scooter:

imdying
29th November 2007, 08:51
Last nite was a good ride , nice turn out ,nice distance.Agreed.

You'll never get everyone riding at the some speed, but as the norm people of similar speeds group upYep, always the way... always easiest to let the mad buggers do their thing.

Main thing is agreed route before leaving(group yak)Yeah, that was definitely our failing this week

and if your not taking it----don't go in the FRONT:spanking:Yep...

Agree pmh is a bit quieter maybe a better place, but as long as a regroup is planned ie halswell etcI'd be keen for McDonalds Lincoln road, food, and it's on the right road :yes:

helenoftroy
29th November 2007, 08:52
Had a bit of a problem going over the hilltop though... I'm clearly waaay too fat and too tall for an RGV250. I'm up and down the box like a mad thing all the time, but on left handers I've gotta be setup for the corner so I've time to move my foot back on the peg, else it's all (i.e. my foot) decking out. Hanging off like a monkey will help the ground clearance, but really it was just shitty body positioning (that and a bike that is clearly under sprung for my weight). Mucho concentration needed to be smooth :yes:

:lol::lol::lol:now this I just gotta see - if I can keep up:devil2::devil2:

Dave-
29th November 2007, 08:52
Guess it could be a bit intimidating going up to someone you don't really know and asking them to hang back with you, also guess it might feel a bit like your risking insulting someone if you go up and offer them help just because they turned up on a 250.
Maybe that needs to be part of the group hug, hands up the volunteers, hands up the people who'd like a bit of guidance.

agreed, I'll be the first to put my hand up

:Oi: can someone please follow me at the next ride?

imdying
29th November 2007, 09:13
:lol::lol::lol:now this I just gotta see - if I can keep up:devil2::devil2:Hahaha, it was hilarious... I was bumping and bouncing my way along, trying to keep my left foot off the ground, tank slapping my way over the bumps... just keeping it on the gas and riding through it :third:

Seriously though, you're much better off following someone else, I'm a pretty sloppy/lazy rider, you won't learn anything about lines worth knowing from me :innocent:

SVboy
29th November 2007, 09:25
Perhaps an ITsavvy person could set up a poll re new departure points? I agree with all that has been said-but it is hard for people who dont know people to ask for help, or to make a judgement as to a groups speed or skill. I am a newbie trying to go faster and smoother and would appreciate any feedback on how to improve. I guess last night highlights the importance of a group chat b4 we leave? I would appreciate the input of the 2 founders of the Wednesday rides-they might have some ideas.

imdying
29th November 2007, 09:37
Just ride smoother, faster comes naturally from that :) (yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I've no desire to become faster than I am :D, well not on the road anyway).

phoenixgtr
29th November 2007, 09:38
Ok

1. Deviant, Donald Trump called. He said you're fired!! :bleh:

2. Most important thing is that we have a "briefing" before we leave the carpark. It will just be "this is where we're going", "this is where we'll regroup", "fast guys go first if you want, the rest of us will meet you there". This will mean me actually talking and not being the "mysterious quiet guy" in the corner that I play so well, but I can manage that.

3. There seems to be a fair bit of support for the Princess Margaret Hospital carpark. There are obvious cons to this. The main reason for my hesitation to change is the importance of "same time same place" for these rides. We can't keep changing meeting points and confusing everyone. We need to pick a place and stick with it. Imdying - McD's Lincoln Rd doesn't have a very big carpark. I know, thats where dinner came from last night. PMH would be better, apart from the obvious lack of McDonalds.

So, if you are against shifting the meeting point to the Princess Margaret Hospital carpark post up why and we'll have a little "poll". If the majority want to shift then we'll shift.

imdying
29th November 2007, 09:54
Imdying - McD's Lincoln Rd doesn't have a very big carpark. I know, thats where dinner came from last night. PMH would be better, apart from the obvious lack of McDonalds.Ja, very true... How about Hornby BK? Not central, but has fuel, air, car parking and food :D

phoenixgtr
29th November 2007, 10:31
Haha. I admire you're determination

imdying
29th November 2007, 10:44
THINK OF THE STOMACHS!Mine especially :yes:

Mikkel
29th November 2007, 12:35
Sounds like you guys had a nice ride - all things considered. Awesome turn-out! But yeah, it's a bit hard to keep things together in the city with all the traffic lights. Biggest problem is when people very keen on going fast overtakes the ride leader and splits the group up in that way.

And yes, for large groups I reckon you need to appoint a ride leader and everyone follows the fella, and he needs to be observant of whether people are keeping up or not and slow down accordingly - pass the leader and you've indicated that your desire is to leave the ride group and it's all good, however nobody are obliged to wait for you if you take a wrong turn.

Two weeks ago the group got really diffused going through the city - but at least most had understood that we were going to meet at BP at Halswell so we regrouped there and things went nicely from there. Personally I wasn't impressed with people lanesplitting at speed on Brougham Street breaking the group apart - but don't let me tell you how to ride I'm just a n00b anyway.


THINK OF THE STOMACHS!Mine especially :yes:

Growth is good! ;)

Unfortunately my wednesday nights have become locked down with other activities - if anyone are keen on doing something on another week night as well feel free to PM me and I'll see what I can sort out.

Transalper
29th November 2007, 13:07
Does Friday count as a week night?

Mikkel
29th November 2007, 14:11
Does Friday count as a week night?

That would be a negative. Friday night is out of the question for planned rides for me.

Oakie
29th November 2007, 14:24
I'm a bit dubious about using Princess Margaret as a meeting point. Wonderful big car park in a reasonable location for sure, but it is a hospital with the obligatory sick people and perhaps a bunch of bikers doing their thing in the hospital car park may be a bit inconsiderate towards the sickies. 'Tis a big car park though and perhaps the very eastern-most part of it may be sufficiently far away so as not to cause a problem? Someone needs to check it out if you are seriously looking at changing.

cruza
29th November 2007, 14:30
Suggestion------

*We leave meeting place at BK moorhouse, for next few rides anyway.

*put ride ideas here before each wed, Quick group Yak before we leave AT 630pm

* one regroup edge of city where ever ride is going, and from there ride will sort itself out , find a sub group thats going your speed , or stay with your "buddy" for the nite( if you want a buddy post it before the ride ,sure someone will step up )

* a bit of give and take , some go fast,some go slow ,some want to leave and get back before dark etc , it is a cruisy/social nite, for a ride and Yak. To much bitching each week will kill numbers/fun/ride. Keep it simple, keep it fun.

JMemonic
29th November 2007, 17:56
Ok massive post and a lot of quotes from me here.


Last week I saw someone nearly get wiped out doing a lane change just down the road from BK. It seemed like a pretty arrogant action at the time and if the car had of done almost anything but slow down I think they would have been toast. It looked pretty close from where I was (at the back of the group).


NO, I mean someone is going to be wiped out, and yes to the reason why.

I missed that so I misunderstood the concern you both had, this is not a good thing, and we certainly do not want to have a cage vs bike incident anywhere in the ride but at the start well....:(


Damn sounds like I missed a good ride tonight. Unfortunatly work called and that was that really.

Good news is that I get my stator fixed on the 4/12, just in time for the next ride. Im looking forward to being able to go on random rides in the middle of a clear night and seeing all the stars so clearly and having an empty road all to myself.

Unfortunately you did miss a good ride but there will be many more hopefully once you get that stator fixed, as to having an empty road to yourself look out, some of us might turn up :chase:



Perhaps a few of us think that we are invincible when riding through town in a group that size.

Perhaps you could be right, it could also be the fact that we don't want to miss the right route.


I went last night on the ride and have a couple of thoughts for this

Personally I thought it was good to see you and all the other ladies there, would be nice to see a few more often and perhaps we could encourage some of the beginner ladies to join in.


Being one of the ones left behind last night it was frustrating, my understanding of the rides on Wednesdays was to just cruise and also a chance for some new riders to get some experience and learn from some of the 'better' riders. Being that I still have a lot to learn and am still fairly slow I like to be able to relax and practise and I’m sure some of the newer riders would appreciate the help as well. It’s no fun being slower than the rest of the group and feel like you are left behind and not part fun, this can also make you feel like not joining the ride! How are we meant to encourage new riders if we won’t help them learn???!!!!!!

We also need clear discussion on where we are all heading and the stop points.....just in case we do lose someone on the way, I thought the reason we all meet up is to ride together, what’s the point if no-one waits?????

That I think are the key points, we need to have a better route plan and discussion at the start, if we cant get these short rides planned right a day ride would turn into a mess.


All you need to do is 'ask'... but remember someone whom you think is good may be teaching you bad habits.
IMHO what some one like ya self needs is not only to follow some one that 'thinks' they know what they are doing (*includes me) but some book and leture work, questions ansered sort a thing, another words people need an expernation as to why you do or dont take a certin line, also being a live and good rider is about survile another words 'expect the unexpected'

*my back ground is: 25yrs non stop on road riding estamated 200,000kms and 3yrs racing around NZ's tracks including street races, but most importently the love of riding... and I still dont know it all and never will.

Sounds to me like you would be an ideal coach, you have the right attitude, and I did see you chatting to some of the folks giving out tips based on what you saw. BTW any tips you have for me feel free. I admit having had far to many years off bikes my skill level is not that flash.

fireliv
29th November 2007, 17:56
All you need to do is 'ask'... but remember someone whom you think is good may be teaching you bad habits.
IMHO what some one like ya self needs is not only to follow some one that 'thinks' they know what they are doing (*includes me) but some book and leture work, questions ansered sort a thing, another words people need an expernation as to why you do or dont take a certin line, also being a live and good rider is about survile another words 'expect the unexpected'

*my back ground is: 25yrs non stop on road riding estamated 200,000kms and 3yrs racing around NZ's tracks including street races, but most importently the love of riding... and I still dont know it all and never will.

Yes I see your point, but I can also tell you that I learned a lot following Transalper around. But by all means share your knowledge! I just dont know what questions to ask. For me at this stage its about feeling comfortable on my bike, and trusting it. Learning to not believe the car voice in my head. Once I get through that I'm sure I'll have questions!!
But I also learned alot from what you said last week Dangerous, and it helped me think about cornering a bit more.

fireliv
29th November 2007, 18:05
I'm a bit dubious about using Princess Margaret as a meeting point. Wonderful big car park in a reasonable location for sure, but it is a hospital with the obligatory sick people and perhaps a bunch of bikers doing their thing in the hospital car park may be a bit inconsiderate towards the sickies. 'Tis a big car park though and perhaps the very eastern-most part of it may be sufficiently far away so as not to cause a problem? Someone needs to check it out if you are seriously looking at changing.

I agree. Its a hospital not a vey suitable place to meet. Dont wanna get in any sick or ambos way

Transalper
29th November 2007, 18:27
Plains Club Chomy Childerens Run meets and departs from there every year, there's a heap of room out near the road at the Colombo St end of the car park or even across the road.

Personally I'd really like to get away from that left on to street, right at lights thing, we were way backed up last night. Had to wait for the lights to turn to clear enough of the lane to even get out of BK, then they were red again.

Somewhere with fuel and food would be nice too.
I don't think i have much more to contribute to this line of conversation. Feel like I've been here before.

dangerous
29th November 2007, 18:43
Ok.. the way I see it the Wed night rides will never be the best way for a newbee to learn.
1st of all thers those that arnt interested in learning
you cant learn anything if there is a fast group
whos to say those offering help know shit anyway, bad habbits are only passed on.
Now the way I see it the rides are good for newbees to get comfortable with ther bikes and other riders, however once happy with them selves and bikes its time to do and I reckon in all honestly its the only way to learn corectly... and thats to do a organised MCC trainging day.
This does reflect on the road as decent riders are giving advice and yoyu get to pratice the same corner till you get it right. You learn how to launch, stop and corner eg: doing a circute with out using brakes then front and or back only.
What I would like to do if there is enough interest is work in with one of these days and extend the training out onto the road, ie: we use the top racers that road ride aswell and we have a wee road trip.
This idea needs some serious thinking but IMHO the Wed night rides will only get newbees so far, then bad habbits will take over.

Transalper
29th November 2007, 19:32
I'd be interested.
Rather do the kind of advanced training MyGSXF is hooked on up North, but that kind of thing seems all too rear down here.

timg
29th November 2007, 20:47
What I would like to do if there is enough interest is work in with one of these days and extend the training out onto the road, ie: we use the top racers that road ride aswell and we have a wee road trip.
This idea needs some serious thinking but IMHO the Wed night rides will only get newbees so far, then bad habbits will take over.

I'd be keen. Been trying to get on a mainland driving school advanced course but they keep cancelling the things, forgetting to notify me etc :( which reminds me thet still owe me my deposit back

Dave-
29th November 2007, 21:41
im keen

im keen for everything

gav
29th November 2007, 22:22
OK, look I'd like to join some of these rides, but arent going to make a 6.30 departure time esp in the middle of town. I don't get home until after 6, and be way past 6.30 before I could get through town seeing as I'm travelling from Papanui area.
Anyway, is it not possible to post up a destination with meeting times at various points and try and stick to it? Any plans to do a gorge run, or run out North perhaps etc or is every run a Akaroa/Bay/Sumner type run? I thought these runs were originally a Cruisy type run for Newbies, Dangerous is right that you will learn bad tips and can only learn so much, but its also true that when you ride at the back you do tend to have to ride faster on the straights and end up slower in the bends due to running into corners too quick, if the group in front are running at a quickish pace.

Mikkel
29th November 2007, 22:40
Regarding meeting places - there's a very large BP on the corner of Hoon Hay and Sparks Rd (I do believe). Which would meet some of the criteria - close to Halswell and Dyers - not too far out of the way if you wanted to head SW out of town and do some sort of loop either.

The Shell station on Brougham St. close to the Ice rink could make for a good alternative as well - right onto Brougham if you want to go towards Halswell/Akaroa and it's not far of Sumner, the tunnel or Dyers if you want a quick get away to the bays. Pretty easy to go north outta town from there as well...

MyGSXF
29th November 2007, 22:58
I'd be interested.
Rather do the kind of advanced training MyGSXF is hooked on up North, but that kind of thing seems all too rear down here.

hhmm.. thought comes to mind.. :gob: :whistle: :shutup: whadda bout putting the word out to see "how many people" down there abouts, would be seriously interested in doing some training (with professionals) & I could talk to Andrew & Lynne @ Roadsafe, & see what it would take in terms of numbers & costs etc to get them down to ChCh for a weekend.. whadda ya's reckon???? worth a crack.. :rolleyes:

Jen :rockon:

Spuds1234
29th November 2007, 23:18
I would be keen as for some propper training.

I think what numbers would come down to would be the amount of notice that is given before it happens.

I'd need atleast a month and a half to get a weekend completly off.

dangerous
30th November 2007, 05:12
I could talk to Andrew & Lynne @ Roadsafe, & see what it would take in terms of numbers & costs etc to get them down to ChCh for a weekend.. whadda ya's reckon???? worth a crack.. :rolleyes:

Jen :rockon:
They will have to work in with MCC and there training day set up, cant see a problem.

200BUSA
30th November 2007, 06:26
I read in new bike Mag that ACC have put out a DVD with motorcycling tips,put together with help from cop bike trainer-Aaron Slight and some others.If a bike shop has a copy then make one Wed night ride into a watch dvd and dicuss what is wanted out of the Wed night rides.A course as suggested could be good but can all riders afford the cost as some cant even afford the right riding gear let alone extra training costs.As Dangerous suggested earlier we could have a decent ride somewhere and a more experienced rider will buddy up with a learner and offer tips.As long as you ride within your capabilities and ride at your own pace.There have been lots of good ideas on here on what needs to be done - it just now needs to be put into practice.

SVboy
30th November 2007, 07:14
I would be real keen on rider training-great idea Dangerous and Mygsx.

Transalper
30th November 2007, 07:28
The DVD refered to is in the current Kiwi Rider Mag, it's $10 for the mag inclusive from a lot of supermarkets and places such as Whitculls and Paper Plus and proberbly a whole lot of other places.
I for one have it.
There's a whole thread on it (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=61086)in the KB Suvival Skills forum

MyGSXF
30th November 2007, 13:16
Righto you lot.. Have just spoken to Andrew @ Roadsafe.. & he is very keen to come to ChCh & do a training weekend for you guys!! :Punk: (only, I gotta organise it all.. :doh: :shutup: )

It will be a "Roadsafe" training weekend (so nothing to do with MCC). And it WILL be the best investment you could possibly spend your money on with regards to your motorcycling, that I guarantee!! :first: (As Transalper kindly pointed out, I am hooked on these courses & recommend 100% EVERYONE doing at least one in their lifetime..no matter how many years you have been riding.. or how much experience & knowledge you think you have!!!! :msn-wink: )


I have started a separate thread for this event..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1319722#post1319722

& firstly I need to get an idea of numbers definately interested, & then will let you know all the details as it all unfolds! :niceone:



Jen :rockon:

phoenixgtr
30th November 2007, 13:30
Woohoo!! Well done girl. I'd be keener than a keen thing. Andrew's great. I did my BHS with him

imdying
30th November 2007, 13:50
I'm still interested in going for a cruisy Wednesday night right :yes:

phoenixgtr
30th November 2007, 13:54
We're definately still doing the Weds night rides. Theres no question about that.

Hey MyGSXF don't forget to put a link to that thread on this thread. Cheers

Sparrow_1982
30th November 2007, 14:50
well guys, for those who had the chance to meet me, lucky limited few u know who u are, just givin u's an update, have kinda been busy lately not been able to make it to many rides, untill last sunday (the 25th) i wrote my bike off going up the hill from sunmer into tailors mistake, didnt quite make it around one of the easiest of s bends inbetween the 2 hairpins, not going to mention to much more on the subject tho, unless you are genuinely interested :) take care guys, i will still keep in touch, but for now my bike days r ova i think, bikes a total loss, insured tho thankfully, no one else envolved, was lucky no one was comin down hill either, cops mentioned that as they scrapped me off the road lol, had an oncoming vehicle been there i sure as hell wouldnt b... :Police::doh::Oops::doctor:

SDU
30th November 2007, 15:05
Shit! Are you ok? Not too badly hurt I hope, off course we wanna hear the story.
Ya bike is replaceable & I guess we'll see you on another bike again soon.
Take it easy & give an update soon.

cruza
30th November 2007, 15:07
I'm still interested in going for a cruisy Wednesday night right :yes:

wooohooo:clap:

thanks goodness thread back on track

so where to next week? this is the wed nite ride thread right?

imdying
30th November 2007, 15:09
for now my bike days r ova i think, bikes a total loss, insured tho thankfullyHTFU and take that money straight to a bike shop!!!:eek:

imdying
30th November 2007, 15:11
so where to next week? this is the wed nite ride thread right?It surely is... tbh, I'd be happy for a repeat of this week. Andy will ride just about anywhere, he really doesn't care where... OAB, what about you?

MyGSXF
30th November 2007, 15:13
Hey MyGSXF don't forget to put a link to that thread on this thread. Cheers


Already done that grasshopper... on my post below! :niceone:

MyGSXF
30th November 2007, 15:14
Hey MyGSXF don't forget to put a link to that thread on this thread. Cheers


Already done that grasshopper... on my post below #911 :niceone:

cruza
30th November 2007, 15:28
It surely is... tbh, I'd be happy for a repeat of this week. Andy will ride just about anywhere, he really doesn't care where... OAB, what about you?

Same again sounds good to me ,hmmm got to love that smell of burnt castrol tts :whistle:

phoenixgtr
30th November 2007, 15:56
I would quite like to shoot up dyers and turn right onto Summit rd to Gebbies and the maybe out to Diamond Harbour. Thats a route we haven't done yet. (apart from the Diamond Harbour bit). We could regroup at the sign of the kiwi and then at the end of Gebbies (Wheatsheaf) if needed.

I'm not putting down the ride to Duvauchelle. Weds showed us we can do that, but maybe not every week.

Sparrow_1982
30th November 2007, 16:05
Shit! Are you ok? Not too badly hurt I hope, off course we wanna hear the story.
Ya bike is replaceable & I guess we'll see you on another bike again soon.
Take it easy & give an update soon.

yeah i ok, i dislocated my left shoulder, broke my left elbow, didn't break my leg but i did manage to make a mess of my left knee and tendons, was only wearing jeans :argh::crazy: no protection for legs, but my jacket did save my shoulder though, had i not worn it i'd say it would be pretty smashed, i ended up not making it around an easy right hand bend, too much speed, ended up collecting the rock cliff face right on verge of road..... scraped along it 4 1.5m then bike veered off to the otherside of road on its side, i luckily had fallen onto the left side of bike by then so no gravel rash, but still nothing to be proud of, quite ashamed really, ego's taken a knock :whistle:

fireliv
30th November 2007, 16:56
Shit sparrow!!!

That really bites. Glad ure not another statistic!!
Good luck with the recovery.

If Phoenix and I can both afford to do the course with andy we will. He was absolutly fantastic when I did my BSH course and I strongly recommended everyone doing it too!

Deviant Esq
30th November 2007, 17:17
1. Deviant, Donald Trump called. He said you're fired!! :bleh:
I take it you told him that you're the boss and he could shove it up his :eek: ? :bleh:

Some interesting points being raised. Guess we'll have to see what happens...

Holy crap Sparrow! :eek5: Hope you're not too hurt, that's a real bummer! Don't give up riding though, these things can happen. You sure didn't seem like a rider about to have an off when we went for that cruise a few weeks back! Still, hope you patch up well. Just keep your options open, and hopefully we'll see you back again before long.

laRIKin
30th November 2007, 17:40
yeah i ok, i dislocated my left shoulder, broke my left elbow, ...........

Bugger I'm sorry to hear this mate.
Get better soon and get that/a bike back on the road and we will go for another ride.

It only takes a moment for it all to go turtle.
One moment it's all good and fun and then with in a blink of a eye it all goes sky, dirt, sky, dirt and that feeling of pain to let you know it was not a bad dream.

See you soon and have a good Christmas mate.

Rik

Transalper
30th November 2007, 17:52
Shit sparrow!!!

That really bites. Glad ure not another statistic!!

Yes Sparrow, sorry to here about the crash, unfortunately I must disagree on the statistic comment, he may have avoided being added to the motorcycle fatality count but rest assured he has added himself to the motorcycle injury talley which I'm sure ACC and all those trying to get us off the road will thank him for.

Rashika
30th November 2007, 18:01
sorry to hear about the off Sparrow :(
heal up soon

dangerous
30th November 2007, 18:47
I must disagree on the statistic comment, he may have avoided being added to the motorcycle fatality count but rest assured he has added himself to the motorcycle injury talley which I'm sure ACC and all those trying to get us off the road will thank him for.

and this is why a proper training schem is the beter way to go over a Wed night ride.

JMemonic
30th November 2007, 18:51
Sparrow shame about the off, but don't let that cause you to give up on riding, in fact don't let anything force you to give up except old age, its far to much fun.

Take some time to heal up and keep looking at bikes as a replacement.

JMemonic
30th November 2007, 19:05
and this is why a proper training schem is the beter way to go over a Wed night ride.

I agree that proper rider training is important, however the wed night rides has caused perhaps a social aspect that has lead to the discussion on the professional training, we may not have gotten to this point without them.

Having folks like you along offering advice I am sure has improved some skills, and most importantly as one who sits at the rear I have observed peoples confidence improve on the way home after they have had an experienced rider take them aside and quietly give them a couple of tips.

Kilometres on the bike, knowing that there is some support and no pressure to be somewhere fast for me helps a lot having been off a bike for far too long.

dangerous
30th November 2007, 19:43
a wise man Mr Memonic

helenoftroy
30th November 2007, 20:05
yeah i ok, i dislocated my left shoulder, broke my left elbow, didn't break my leg but i did manage to make a mess of my left knee and tendons,

Hey young Sparrow I'm really sorry to hear bout the off.

Sounds like the damage was bad enough:eek5:You'll be feeling pretty sore.:blink:

Hope all the injuries heal up quickly

cruza
30th November 2007, 20:09
a wise man Mr Memonic

Does kinda wrap it up in a nutshell, and you can tell a good story at the pub too!!. :yes:.

JMemonic
30th November 2007, 20:24
a wise man Mr Memonic


Does kinda wrap it up in a nutshell, and you can tell a good story at the pub too!!. :yes:.

Thanks but hey I am just telling it like I see it, keep those comments up and I might get a swelled head and wont be able to fit my new helmet, and that has been an issue to get.

cruza
30th November 2007, 20:37
Thanks but hey I am just telling it like I see it, keep those comments up and I might get a swelled head and wont be able to fit my new helmet, and that has been an issue to get.

:laugh::laugh:

You could always get a no 1 cut :bleh:

dangerous
30th November 2007, 20:54
:laugh::laugh:

You could always get a no 1 cut :bleh: hell, just a hair cut would work :scooter:

JMemonic
30th November 2007, 21:14
:laugh::laugh:

You could always get a no 1 cut :bleh:


hell, just a hair cut would work :scooter:

lol I will tell you what I told my boss, the person who's opinion matter the most on the subject is the one who is the on willing to sleep in my bed and she likes to run her fingers through it.

Sparrow_1982
30th November 2007, 21:27
Holy crap Sparrow! :eek5: Hope you're not too hurt, that's a real bummer! Don't give up riding though, these things can happen. You sure didn't seem like a rider about to have an off when we went for that cruise a few weeks back! Still, hope you patch up well. Just keep your options open, and hopefully we'll see you back again before long.

thanks mate lol a few days ago i didnt think i'd be in this position either, don't worry i haven't given up, still have it in my blood just may be awhile b4 i can get back on, hasnt scared me so much, but i have sure learnt a lesson.


Shit sparrow!!!

That really bites. Glad ure not another statistic!!
Good luck with the recovery.

lol yeah u don't know how glad i am not to b one of those statistics either, could of easily been tho,



Bugger I'm sorry to hear this mate.
Get better soon and get that/a bike back on the road and we will go for another ride.

It only takes a moment for it all to go turtle.
One moment it's all good and fun and then with in a blink of a eye it all goes sky, dirt, sky, dirt and that feeling of pain to let you know it was not a bad dream.

See you soon and have a good Christmas mate.

Rik

thanks rik and sally :) it will take time i guess bet yeah i will get there some day, as 4 My bike, poor thing classed as a complete loss, better it than me i guess. u don't know how close ur description is to what i remember, it only took a second.... one minute i was on the road next i was grinding rock face, i was lucky to stay on the bike tho, at that speed i would of hated to see what the road could have done to me had i completely come off bike,


Yes Sparrow, sorry to here about the crash, unfortunately I must disagree on the statistic comment, he may have avoided being added to the motorcycle fatality count but rest assured he has added himself to the motorcycle injury talley which I'm sure ACC and all those trying to get us off the road will thank him for.

i agree with u there buddy, thats why i feel so ashamed, i happy to be here but not proud of what i have done, even more happy though that no one else was envolved, motircyclists don't need this reputation

sorry to hear about the off Sparrow :(
heal up soon

Sparrow shame about the off, but don't let that cause you to give up on riding, in fact don't let anything force you to give up except old age, its far to much fun.

Take some time to heal up and keep looking at bikes as a replacement.
thank u everyone, this means alot to me, u's may not know how lonely it can get in hospital, but readin this stuff puts a smile on a sore face thats 4 sure,

Hey young Sparrow I'm really sorry to hear bout the off.

Sounds like the damage was bad enough:eek5:You'll be feeling pretty sore.:blink:

Hope all the injuries heal up quickly

yeah u'd b suprised how fast things are movin along, i had the accident on sunday afternoon, was unable to walk till yesterday finally got let out if bed after lettin the countless stitches in my kne heal abit and the large burn on the inner thigh, all the swelling slowly goiin down too now, i have to wear a large knee brace when walkin around, i put it on at 2 today, but 3 hours later my leg had changed from a healthy pale no sun look, to a yellow/purple/blue severe bruised look :shit: i kinda freaked, but the nurses said all my left side is gonna look like that in a day or 2 as the bruising starts to show, i got some gr8 photo's of my wounds too, ambulance staff couldnt get over it whn they were treying to stablise me in ambulance and i told them to hang on for a minute while i pulled out my cell phone and asked could u take some photo's please :sick::shit::eek:

Transalper
30th November 2007, 22:08
i agree with u there buddy, thats why i feel so ashamed, i happy to be here but not proud of what i have done, even more happy though that no one else was involved, motorcyclists don't need this reputation.....i got some gr8 photo's of my wounds too....
Probably should have mentioned they be thanking me too, I've added a couple of counts to the motorcycle injury tally over the earlier years and spent a few weeks in hospitals for it too.
I thought I was being careful enough then found myself flying and the road was gone. Wearing the protective gear just incase is so important in minimizing injury's. There are photos of me all plumbed up to machines somewhere here, just not on this PC.

I try to spend more time really paying attention to what I'm doing now and the possible consequences such as you've just experienced if you get it wrong or someone else gets it wrong and involves you. I hate it when I catch myself daydreaming or realize I've just done another unnessicarily stupid thing and pushed my luck wether it be with traffic or a corner.

Dave-
30th November 2007, 22:11
AHHH!

dude that sucks, get better soon, be awesome to ride with you again some time.

Spuds1234
30th November 2007, 23:57
Shit Sparrow, glad to hear that your kinda ok. Pity about the bike but as you say, better it than you.

You'll have to give me a shout when you get a bike again so we can go for a ride.

Heal up fast mate and remember to stay positive. It really helps.

laRIKin
1st December 2007, 07:25
It only takes a moment for it all to go turtle.
One moment it's all good and fun and then with in a blink of a eye it all goes sky, dirt, sky, dirt and that feeling of pain to let you know it was not a bad dream.


u don't know how close ur description is to what i remember, it only took a second.... one minute i was on the road next i was grinding rock face, i was lucky to stay on the bike tho, at that speed i would of hated to see what the road could have done to me had i completely come off bike,


And here my new biker friends is the lesson for you all.

You start off slow and when you get quicker and cocky you start to push youir luck. (before you are ready)

And if unlucky it can and will turn to shit fast.

Some of you have had moment already and saved it.

Slow down and be smooth and limit your risk's until you have a lot of miles under your belt and do not try to get to fast to soon.
Speed will come and try to get it before a fall.

And this is not a dig at you Sparrow, you all ways looked like you were in control when I rode with you.

Like D I have been riding and raced for years and have seen a lot of things.
And I can not but notice that the newer bike's to day let you go faster, brake quicker and corner faster easier. (than the older shit we rode)

The down side is when it does go pear shaped you are doing it at a faster speed than what we were when we were learning to ride on.
So you get hurt a lot more, but the plus side is most of you have real good riding gear to wear now days.
A lot better than jeans and a wind breaker, as the price of any thing apart for a leather jacket so out of the price range of every one apart from a few.

Maybe that is where some of the problem is.
You feel to safe in full face helmets and all the leather gear.

All of you keep the rubber side down and be careful FFS.

Rant mode off, it's just I hate reading about riders getting hurt, visiting hospitals and worse.

cruza
1st December 2007, 08:09
Hell I thought I was the shit on my bored out c50 stepthru :rolleyes: as my first bike!! no cheap 4 cly 250 wizz bangs avail. Then cut my teeth on a big block single cb 250"rs" --yeah the flash one with electric start!. Thinking back now they were great bikes for my riding ability, and cheap to fix when you canned off, and being slower kept you out of trouble,:doh: well most of the time.

Sparrow_1982
1st December 2007, 09:43
well got some good news about to get discharged from hospital, hehe, gotta slowly work my way back to a bike, starting with loosing the single crutch and knee brace, but good things take time, totally agree with u rik mate, and it is good to hear from experienced riders where the problems actually lie in wait for the younger ones, i have listened to many a people b4 this accident re: speed on corners but as u say it only takes one lapse in thought on the wrong bend and see ya.... and don't worry i not taking what u saying personally, we all need to learn from our mistakes, it's good to get feed back. if u ever heading around to tailors mistake keep an eye out for the marks on the road in between the 2 hairpins on the sunmer side of hill, once u see the marks heading up the road it not that hard to trace the path back to rock impact and the line i was taking, I havent been back yet but will be going there shortly to have a look, u will see it obvious i was being a silly boy tho

dangerous
1st December 2007, 15:57
if u ever heading around to tailors mistake keep an eye out for the marks on the road in between the 2 hairpins on the sunmer side of hill, once u see the marks heading up the road it not that hard to trace the path back to rock impact and the line i was taking,

you meaning the very 1st corner right hair pin and the 2nd being a left hair pin???
if so its practicaly a straight line but does narrow off... its a steep climb, were you going up or down? what in your mind went wrong?

Sparrow_1982
1st December 2007, 19:34
you meaning the very 1st corner right hair pin and the 2nd being a left hair pin???
if so its practicaly a straight line but does narrow off... its a steep climb, were you going up or down? what in your mind went wrong?

yeah u got the right area, inbetween those hairpins is a very gentle s bend, easy left into easy right, i know exactly what went wrong, i was heading up hill, was kinda taking the right line for a single left bend, some reason i wasnt thinking about the right hand bend straight after, too much speed, when i changed lines i was just far to far outside the bend, ended up in a rather large ditch which is sealed as part of their so called guttering system up there which just straightened me up into rock face, had i been watchin my speed more carefully it wouldnt of happened, the simplest of bends, i get this months medal for world's worst rider:first: hehe well at least i can look back on it and admit i was as fault and laugh, would be different had i envolved someone else

Sparrow_1982
1st December 2007, 19:58
for those of not the faint hearted have a look at these photo's, they are pretty graphic, will be adding some photo's of my bike and accident scene tomorrow when i get back in afternoon :laugh: http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?PhotoNbr=1&MemberId=4762420030&PhotoAlbumId=6251447238

dangerous
1st December 2007, 20:03
for those of not the faint hearted have a look at these photo's

Ok... so what kinda gear were you wearing Sparrow, thems some narsty wounds. :mellow:

Sparrow_1982
1st December 2007, 20:17
yeah u got the right area, inbetween those hairpins is a very gentle s bend, easy left into easy right, i know exactly what went wrong, i was heading up hill, was kinda taking the right line for a single left bend, some reason i wasnt thinking about the right hand bend straight after, too much speed, when i changed lines i was just far to far outside the bend, ended up in a rather large ditch which is sealed as part of their so called guttering system up there which just straightened me up into rock face, had i been watchin my speed more carefully it wouldnt of happened, the simplest of bends, i get this months medal for world's worst rider:first: hehe well at least i can look back on it and admit i was as fault and laugh, would be different had i envolved someone else

i had a kevla padded gortex bike jacket on, but only jeans on legs :argh: i had driRider boots on which i gotta say save my ankles, i still can't believe the damage to the bike where my feet were and how little damage just some swelling/ bruising around ankle, my left foot ended up wedged up inbetween the pillion passangers foot peg and the rear tyre??? dont ask me how,

dangerous
1st December 2007, 20:24
i had a kevla padded gortex bike jacket on, but only jeans on legs

How come ya elbo got so beat up? what was the brand of Jacket? did the armour move?

onearmedbandit
1st December 2007, 20:26
Wow, great evidence if anyone ever needed of why to wear good gear.

Sparrow_1982
1st December 2007, 20:37
hehe nah the armor protected the elbow no cuts were on joint where the padding was, only thing the armour didnt do was prevent the breakage, but im sure it limited it, the brand was Moshin??? i think, was a direct imported jacket from japan, was only a light summer sports jacket had i worn my other heavy jacket it would hve been different, but it was 30 degrees over there and i wasnt wearin that hehe, Major bit of advice to everyone out there dont wear jeans, get some proper pants, im lucky i didnt break anything in my legs,

laRIKin
1st December 2007, 20:39
Yep the road is very unforgiving.

You would not put your fingers (or anything else) on to a grinding wheel, and that is going slower than the road is when you come off.

fireliv
1st December 2007, 21:26
I tried to look but thats just awful!!!!!! :(

Sparrow_1982
1st December 2007, 21:40
I tried to look but thats just awful!!!!!! :(

haha yeah it a pretty site, looks alot better now though, i hope :rolleyes:

cruza
1st December 2007, 22:46
photos, nah you can keep them too you'll self........I'm a bad one in summer for wearing jeans, instead of my leather pants ,if im not going far, always wear boots ,gloves ,jacket.

dangerous
2nd December 2007, 08:12
time for me to do what I do best... harp on, jeans are no beter than wearing shorts I know sometimes its not avoidable, and as for the Kevlar type of jean like the Dragon, while 100% beter than jeans they are not a fraction on the corect riding gears... I seen OrangeBack arse up last month in some and if it wasent for his 'leather' wallet in his front pocket he would have had a big hole in him, the kevlar tore off... ya cant beat leather failing that Cordura with armour

Dave-
2nd December 2007, 08:13
im feeling seedy from last night and have work in less than an hour...will look when i get home...

Sparrow_1982
2nd December 2007, 11:46
time for me to do what I do best... harp on, jeans are no beter than wearing shorts I know sometimes its not avoidable, and as for the Kevlar type of jean like the Dragon, while 100% beter than jeans they are not a fraction on the corect riding gears... I seen OrangeBack arse up last month in some and if it wasent for his 'leather' wallet in his front pocket he would have had a big hole in him, the kevlar tore off... ya cant beat leather failing that Cordura with armour

i agree with u there, jeans arent the way to go, i had no choice tho, i couldn't afford the pants as yet they were going to be a xmas pressie, but well i guess it's a bit too late, i was suprised to see how quick they disappeared, u can see in one of the photo's where my knee is all dirty still, the jeans are still on me there and the ambulance staff havent cut any of it back as yet either,

Mikkel
2nd December 2007, 13:03
Ah fuck Craig, that sucks big time! So sorry to hear it mate. Hope you'll patch up well - too many limping bikers out there already to be honest.

But yeah, Scarborough Rd can be very deceptive - it has got nice long straights between the hairpins, but don't ever let the temptation get to you! There are heaps and heaps of driveways coming in from both sides and visibility coming outta them is shit poor.

Nice photos - I love how you told the ambulance crew to HTFU and take some photos of your mess :lol: But it certainly yields a strong case for the ATGATT argument.

I hope you'll have a swift recovery and take imdying's advice to heart :)

----------------

On another note - when will that rider training course be held? I'm most certainly keen to participate!

Edit: Disregard that question. Am reading the thread now.

Sparrow_1982
2nd December 2007, 16:05
hey guys i put up photo's of the accident scene now if u wanna look,
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?PhotoAlbumId=6251447238
the photo names kinda describe what ur lookin at in photo, will try get some good shots of my bike now 4 ya's a bit dark in garage tho, so might have to wait for a sunny day or untill i strong enough to push bike outside :niceone:

onearmedbandit
2nd December 2007, 16:20
Link not working for me. (edit, working now)

Although I do see on your bebo page that you list your ZXR as a 'quick death machine'.

Tacoman
2nd December 2007, 19:11
dude sorry to hear that sparrow take it easy I wish you a prompt recovery, just dont give up and overcome your fears mate.

Sparrow_1982
2nd December 2007, 19:16
Link not working for me. (edit, working now)

Although I do see on your bebo page that you list your ZXR as a 'quick death machine'.

haha yeah it's a good description don't u think, they are lethal to the wrong people, well not the wrong person.... but the unexperienced, ZXR's although they only a 250, for someone that ways only 65 kg like me, the power to weight ratio is nuts, 0 to 100 in 3.8 secs..... Crazy. i was aware of this and most of the time i was carefull regards how i used the power available.... but that day i guess i wasn't thinking straight. i had only just got the bike back from having top half rebuilt and every ride i was going on since i was noticing the pick up getting faster and faster, maybe it was all the crap from the old plugs fouling finally clearing out.. i dont know, but it was obviously getting quicker, even my mates noticed it when i went on rides with them... off the mark it was see ya... going up there today and even lookin at those photo's there is nothing else to blame but me..... not the road, not the weather, not the traffic, but me. i admit that and it pisses me off, i wish i had been sensible like i usually am but u can't take it back unless anyone knows of some genius that can turn back time????:confused:

Transalper
2nd December 2007, 19:31
I would quite like to shoot up dyers and turn right onto Summit rd to Gebbies and the maybe out to Diamond Harbour. Thats a route we haven't done yet. (apart from the Diamond Harbour bit). We could regroup at the sign of the kiwi and then at the end of Gebbies (Wheatsheaf) if needed.

I'm not putting down the ride to Duvauchelle. Weds showed us we can do that, but maybe not every week.

Weather forcast is looking awesome for this coming Wednesday so far.
I'd like to repeat last week again soon, but Phoenixgtr s suggestion sounds good for this week so I second that one this time.

Deviant Esq
2nd December 2007, 20:45
Weather forcast is looking awesome for this coming Wednesday so far.
I'd like to repeat last week again soon, but Phoenixgtr s suggestion sounds good for this week so I second that one this time.
Sounds good to me as well. I'll be sitting my full licence test in the morning... so here's hoping I have good news to report in the evening! :)

fireliv
2nd December 2007, 20:58
Good luck for the test Deviant! Sure you will be fine.

I would love to do the suggested ride, but drinking calls (ahh the christmas season) so have a good ride!

Hopefully I'll be there to bring up the rear the following wed!

who_me_33
3rd December 2007, 06:28
Just been reading through the last few pages of the post (10 or so), is this ride still suitable for newer riders (will be on my restricted, all going to plan be wed, but never done any group rides, and would like to get some more tips from a more experienced rider).

karla
3rd December 2007, 06:52
Where do you meet on Wednesday night, and what time? I'll try and get along ~ have been thinking about joining a group of riders for a while. I'm another learner, still restricted and happy taking things slowly ...

imdying
3rd December 2007, 07:25
Just been reading through the last few pages of the post (10 or so), is this ride still suitable for newer riders (will be on my restricted, all going to plan be wed, but never done any group rides, and would like to get some more tips from a more experienced rider).Yes definitely, it's very much an own pace affair. If I have to wait somewhere for 1/2 an hour for another rider, more than happy to do so.

Where do you meet on Wednesday night, and what time? I'll try and get along ~ have been thinking about joining a group of riders for a while. I'm another learner, still restricted and happy taking things slowly ...6pm BK Moorhouse, leave 6:30pm.

Nice pics sparrow, skin grows back, you'll be right :)

phoenixgtr
3rd December 2007, 07:26
who me 33 and karla,

You guys are definately welcome along and you'll be fine. We'll never let anyone get let behind and there'll be plenty of experienced guys there to help you out and provide tips.

We meet at the Burger King carpark on Moorhouse Ave at 6 every Weds for a 6.30 departure. It's on the first post of the thread

Transalper
3rd December 2007, 08:04
Just a little useless info.
This ride is in it's teenth week now. I think it's only been rained off once? and even then there were two people showed up (yes it has also been rained on once half way through as well and again when we were already back in town).



This week is shaping up like so...
same meeting place, same meeting time (Burger King, Moorhouse Ave 6pm, depart 6:30pm)

Looks like this week the route will be up dyers and turn right onto Summit rd to Gebbies and then maybe out to Diamond Harbour.
Intend to regroup at the sign of the kiwi and then at the end of Gebbies.

imdying
3rd December 2007, 08:18
Ahhh, a little bit of hail and the baddest thunder storm of the season... take more than that to put us off :lol:

Dave-
3rd December 2007, 08:29
Just been reading through the last few pages of the post (10 or so), is this ride still suitable for newer riders (will be on my restricted, all going to plan be wed, but never done any group rides, and would like to get some more tips from a more experienced rider).

yus! another fxr! please come, my wee fxr gets so lonely sitting next to 250 or bigger :(

I may be along this week, finding out today how my fork seals are.

Mikkel
3rd December 2007, 08:46
Just a little useless info.
This ride is in it's teenth week now. I think it's only been rained off once? and even then there were two people showed up (yes it has also been rained on once half way through as well and again when we were already back in town).

Yup we're tuff! :lol:


Ahhh, a little bit of hail and the baddest thunder storm of the season... take more than that to put us off :lol:

Damn right it does... It did slow some of us down a bit though ;)

SVboy
3rd December 2007, 09:31
Good luck for the test Deviant-if you pass must be your big shout at Diamond harbour?-And if you dont, it must be your big shout at Diamond harbour! Yeah-that makes sense!!

imdying
3rd December 2007, 09:33
Damn right it does... It did slow some of us down a bit though ;)Hell, slowed me down! Couldn't see crap! :crazy:

Transalper
3rd December 2007, 13:56
Here's a thought, what do people think of the idea of when leaving BK if we go down Moorhouse Ave an extra block and make the right turn on to Waltham Rd in stead of that nasty right in to Gasson St.
I suspect if we do it that way traffic will be less of a problem as we will have a whole block in which to cross the 3 lanes before making the right turn.

onearmedbandit
3rd December 2007, 14:04
Sounds good.

phoenixgtr
3rd December 2007, 15:25
Thats not a bad idea mate. Those lights at Gasson are a bi%#h. We can never get the whole group through before they change

fireliv
3rd December 2007, 16:40
Ahhh, a little bit of hail and the baddest thunder storm of the season... take more than that to put us off :lol:

That was my first and favourite ride!!! Learned so much and gained so much confidence in that

dangerous
3rd December 2007, 18:02
and would like to get some more tips from a more experienced rider).

there'll be plenty of experienced guys there to help you out and provide tips.


Just make sure, they are the right and good tips...

Transalper
3rd December 2007, 19:43
Just make sure, they are the right and good tips...
Don't keep stressing over that too much big D, for example, advice I've given often has more to do with simple things such as clothing for various conditions and motorcycle maintenance etc.
Haven't really given that much feedback on riding itself, just had a few L-plates follow me on a few of the rides to help them start to better judge their position on the road, give them some nice safe, smoothish lines such as in the street riding guide books. It's one thing to look at a diagram, another thing to be guided through it on the road to start getting a feel for it.
From what I've seen for anything spoken they generally take in what more than one person says or suggests and get to make up their own mind as to what makes sense or sounds most reasonable. We're just giving them some ideas and opinions to think about, not telling them gospel.

In summary all I'm trying to do is help guide a few L-plates up to a more intermediate level of riding, give them some things to try and help them gain a little confidence, haven't seen anyone try to turn anyone else in to a street racer yet, and yes I believe the faster intermediates would be better served doing proper rider training for the on bike practical stuff, but seems to me a lot of the recent new faces aren't yet looking for that level.

Still surprises me how many leave the clear visors at home on an evening ride or leave the wets at home when the clouds are threatening.

Cheers
TA.

dangerous
3rd December 2007, 19:53
You make a lot of sence Trans... I certnly dont have any problems with you. :2thumbsup

helenoftroy
3rd December 2007, 23:25
Young Casualty and I will be cruising along for the ride this week:scooter:

We'll be following a Transalp on a DR:wari:

fireliv
4th December 2007, 16:36
Just make sure, they are the right and good tips...


We're just giving them some ideas and opinions to think about, not telling them gospel.

In summary all I'm trying to do is help guide a few L-plates up to a more intermediate level of riding, give them some things to try and help them gain a little confidence.

Thats exactly how I feel about it D. I can see what is being said, I just need the confidence to do it and thats what these rides are doing for me. Noone has given me advice that I have not heard before (or learned from Roadsafe) its just working out what stage I am at in confidence levels, and what should be the next things I should look at to be a better rider.


Have fun this wed guys!

Spuds1234
4th December 2007, 20:00
Any word on where we are going this week?

My stator didnt get fixed today, its now being done tomorrow afternoon. Im not sure how long it will take so I may miss the start of the ride.

If someone could text me on 027 2547159 just before the ride leaves telling me the destination that would be awesome.

fireliv
4th December 2007, 20:22
I would quite like to shoot up dyers and turn right onto Summit rd to Gebbies and the maybe out to Diamond Harbour. Thats a route we haven't done yet. (apart from the Diamond Harbour bit). We could regroup at the sign of the kiwi and then at the end of Gebbies (Wheatsheaf) if needed.

I'm not putting down the ride to Duvauchelle. Weds showed us we can do that, but maybe not every week.

THink this will be it but I'm sure Phoenix can txt ya if it changes

Transalper
4th December 2007, 21:27
Nobody has argued against, several have said sounds good, so I'm assuming that's the route....
up Dyers Pass to the top, turn right and regroup at Sign of Kiwi, then along Summit RD to Gebbies, then left down Gebbies, regroup if needed near Weatcheif and go around to finish at Diamond Harbour.

Deviant Esq
5th December 2007, 20:40
Well, what a turnout! That was grouse, really enjoyed it. Good on everyone for turning up, what a lot of new faces! Counted nearly 35 bikes before I got confused and wondered if I'd missed any out! And even then there were plenty of guys I know who didn't make it along to this one. Still, new record attendance, coolness. :cool:

Had a grin on my face the whole evening... and not just from the ride. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the reason (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=62403) for all my grinning...

dangerous
5th December 2007, 21:05
yeah mint summers ride in Canty aye :niceone:
Right... you little shits that run well over the center line, dont farking do it
Leaning the body over isent even idle, but cutting it to the point were you are leaning over the grass on the other side of the rd is brain dead.

Ok so the excuss one of you gave me was "but I could see nothing was comming" Fuck sake... what about the oncommer you DONT see (how many times after a acco do you here 'but I didnt see you'
How about the jack arse behind you that is about to over take... not happy use ya mirrors aswell. How about the debris/hole in the rd that apaires in front of you... you now can only go to the left to avoid it... sort ya shits out people, Bad habbits hurt :Police:

karla
5th December 2007, 21:07
Well done on and keep on smiling - I'm told that it just gets better from here on in.

It was a great ride tonight, and what a turnout - I wasn't sure what I was expecting but tonight was far better than I imagined. Thanks to all those who were supportive and patient with me as a slow but steady newcomer - I'm looking forward to getting out with you all again sometime soon! Good for the confidence.

dangerous
5th December 2007, 21:09
Well done on and keep on smiling - I'm told that it just gets better from here on in.

It was a great ride tonight, and what a turnout - I wasn't sure what I was expecting but tonight was far better than I imagined. Thanks to all those who were supportive and patient with me as a slow but steady newcomer - I'm looking forward to getting out with you all again sometime soon! Good for the confidence.

I was behind you for a while K... nice going keep it up :niceone:
Maybe adjust those mirrors tho

Deviant Esq
5th December 2007, 21:11
As behind you for a while K... nice going keep it up :niceone:
I second that - she was doing quite nicely! Good on ya for coming along. See? We're not all that bad (cept Dangerous... :nya:) :whistle:

phoenixgtr
5th December 2007, 21:20
Awesome ride guys. The biggest turnout yet. What a beautiful night it was too. Sitting on the grass at Godley House, very nice. Well done to the newer riders and was it me or was there alot of sportsbikes there tonight!?!

cruza
5th December 2007, 21:20
Yep good ride tonight, Not a bad place on a nice evening for a beer. Was tail end charlie on the way home for a while, saw a couple of mid corner "freezes" and a near miss with armco. Speed comes with time -ride within your ability, if the dude in front is going to fast , who cares.......Not cool picking bikes out of ditches.

who_me_33
5th December 2007, 21:22
I also came along, was on the green fxr, good ride, enjoyed my self a lot. Will be back next week, unless something else pops up.

Spuds1234
5th December 2007, 21:44
Man am I glad I made tonights ride. Only just though.

Left KG Motorcycles at 6.36pm and thought I'd just swing by BK to see if anyone was still there as we generally have a habit of leaving late.

Not this time though. No one was there so I carried on down to Colombo and started heading for Dyers. Ran into the group while it was turning onto Colombo and I was at the lights. Only problem was that I had to stop for gas at Caltex so I lost the group again :(

All good though, caught up again while going along Summit Road.

It was a bloody good ride and it was great to see so many riders going though town together. It looked very impressive indeed. I dont think we could have picked a better night.

As for my bike, the stator is fixed. Now I just need to get a new clutch hub and clutch plates. The clutch used to drag. Now it doesnt. Its only got a tempory fix though as the hub is fucked and the plates are pretty worn.

Its weird getting used to a whole new clutch though. It was almost like riding a whole new bike. Hell I may as well have been. With the stator fixed the engine wasnt struggling to run like it would off the battery and I had a lot more power than I have gotten used to over the last 2000km.

Overall a very good night me thinks.