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dino3310
21st August 2008, 12:18
Jean-Paul Sartre

Mikkel
21st August 2008, 13:46
That is correct. Freedom under resposibility.

Your turn.

dino3310
21st August 2008, 14:14
clue: Stowe Corner bales

Mikkel
21st August 2008, 14:28
It's a stretch - but Josiah Henson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Henson)?

dino3310
21st August 2008, 14:43
It's a stretch - but Josiah Henson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Henson)?

wrong century.
shit and i thought my clue was to easy.
clue: bales as in hay bales

Mikkel
21st August 2008, 14:55
wrong century.
shit and i thought my clue was to easy.
clue: bales as in hay bales

I see, so not quite so obscure...

I guess we're looking for a racing driver ending up in the hay-bales at Stowe Corner on Silverstone.
However, that might prove a bit of a challenge too :)

dino3310
21st August 2008, 15:01
he was an innovator and OH what could have been

dino3310
21st August 2008, 22:54
it was the last corner he went in to

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 09:07
Kim Newcombe (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ms&n=1443)

martybabe
22nd August 2008, 09:12
Kim Newcome.

dino3310
22nd August 2008, 10:41
Kim Newcombe (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ms&n=1443)

correct.
just imaging what could have been.
http://www.ozebook.com/konig.htm

all yours Winston001

martybabe
22nd August 2008, 11:03
Kim Newcombe (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ms&n=1443)

Bugger! I curse my one finger typing. Well done, speedy. :msn-wink:

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 11:44
This family man was convicted of a crime but wasn't present when it occurred and did not take part. One of his family later attempted a similar crime but was caught.

Name this person, and the family member.

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 12:43
His mother once sold him for a jug of beer.

Trudes
22nd August 2008, 12:47
Charles Manson

nodrog
22nd August 2008, 12:56
Kornholio?

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 16:57
Charles Manson

Thats the bad man!! Well done. Who was the other person?

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 18:04
She would have benefited from a good oiling....

Trudes
22nd August 2008, 19:05
Mary Brunner?

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 20:29
Nope. Jerry Ford met this person. :gob:

Trudes
22nd August 2008, 20:35
Lynette Alice Fromme. (Squeaky)

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 21:12
Lynette Alice Fromme. (Squeaky)

You da BOMB!! :woohoo:

Your turn.

Trudes
22nd August 2008, 21:16
Wicked!!

OK, this person was adopted at 3 months of age and has something in common with Kenneth Grahame.

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 21:40
A A Milne?

Trudes
22nd August 2008, 21:44
nup, I doubt this person wrote any books.

Winston001
22nd August 2008, 21:58
Walt Disney

Trudes
22nd August 2008, 22:05
hmmm, no. This person has acted in many films but is not what they are best known for. :)

dino3310
22nd August 2008, 22:30
ronald regan

Mully
22nd August 2008, 22:34
James Blish?

Mikkel
23rd August 2008, 00:22
Lars Krimi.

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 10:00
No.... they are not really that well known for their acting ability either....:msn-wink:

Laava
23rd August 2008, 12:40
David Bowie

Laava
23rd August 2008, 12:46
Terry Jones

dino3310
23rd August 2008, 13:13
tommy jones

Maha
23rd August 2008, 13:17
Jesus Jones?

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 14:39
No, but on the right track :yes:

Laava
23rd August 2008, 15:19
John Lennon? The Jones connection was going nowhere!

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 16:26
No.
The link (a cryptic link that it is) with Kenneth Grahame is to do with his most well known work.

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 20:27
Come on guys...
how about another clue then?
This person was a bit of a punk and had a sucessful solo career as well as with a band that was aptly named.

MisterD
23rd August 2008, 20:35
Jeez, you've got us struggling here Trudes.

Captain Sensible? scrape, scrape

Winston001
23rd August 2008, 20:38
You sly dog Trudes :angry2: You did eventually admit it was cryptic. :shit:

Ok - Debbie Harry. She began her musical career with a folk rock group, the Wind in the Willows.

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 20:39
Jeez, you've got us struggling here Trudes.

Captain Sensible? scrape, scrape

haha, no.... I guess I got everyone a little stumped (boom tish).

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 20:40
You sly dog Trudes :angry2: You did eventually admit it was cryptic. :shit:

Ok - Debbie Harry. She began her musical career with a folk rock group, the Wind in the Willows.

YES!!!!! Yahhhhhh!!!!
I was hoping I wouldn't have to tell ya all!!
Good stuff!:rockon:
Your turn!

Winston001
23rd August 2008, 21:27
His father was Pippin, and this man's formidable leadership bound and reformed warring cultures into a stable group.

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 21:40
Charlemagne

Winston001
23rd August 2008, 21:55
Charlemagne

Hmmmm...:angry2: Too easy huh!

Your turn. :clap:

Trudes
23rd August 2008, 22:07
Hmmmm...:angry2: Too easy huh!

Your turn. :clap:

Seriously? Funny, that was a good one too!!

ummmm, ok......
this blonde small screen star (and one movie) is said to be fond of toilet humor and pornography, enjoys wearing orange and is not adverse to dying.

dino3310
23rd August 2008, 22:29
Joanna Lumley

Trudes
24th August 2008, 07:47
PML... no, but that's funny!

Winston001
24th August 2008, 21:24
Mary Farrah Leni Fawcett

Trudes
24th August 2008, 21:29
no.... he talks a lot, but only those who know him seem to understand..... and he's not strictly speaking a real person....

Winston001
24th August 2008, 22:11
Bart Simpson?

Kenny from South Park?

Trudes
25th August 2008, 06:58
Kenny from South Park?

Yesss!!!:woohoo:
Your turn!

Winston001
25th August 2008, 09:09
This person had a cutting manner but his pioneering skills made him internationally famous.

dino3310
25th August 2008, 09:15
Gianni Versace

Winston001
25th August 2008, 09:22
Like your thinking, that's good enough to be a substitute right answer. Sorry, not the person I'm thinking of.

This person said he didn't get a Nobel Prize because of his nationality.

martybabe
25th August 2008, 10:12
Roy Glauber?

Mikkel
25th August 2008, 10:28
Could it be Wernher von Braun?

Winston001
25th August 2008, 10:36
No but interesting choices.

The person I'm thinking of received heart-felt thanks from a few people who also made the headlines in the early days.

Mikkel
25th August 2008, 10:40
Christiaan Barnard?

dino3310
25th August 2008, 10:51
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Winston001
25th August 2008, 12:27
Christiaan Barnard?

Crikey Mikkel, about time, YES. :buggerd:

Your turn

Mikkel
25th August 2008, 14:55
This pure and simple farmer was subject to a rather rude posthumous insult.

dino3310
25th August 2008, 15:48
aurther allen thomas

Maha
25th August 2008, 16:01
Old McDonald.....that Peter Rabbit was a right bastard.

avgas
25th August 2008, 16:11
The Trotts family (http://1919farm.blogspot.com/2007/10/trott-farm.html)

Mikkel
25th August 2008, 16:23
He shares his nickname with both a war ship and a train.

Timber020
25th August 2008, 22:23
Bit more info perhaps?

Mikkel
25th August 2008, 23:26
More specifically one of, if not, the very first train.

He is a very controversial figure - some accuses him of genocide, although that is not what he best known for.

(Putting clues for this guy isn't easy, it could very easy become all but too obvious.)

Timber020
25th August 2008, 23:46
Gebhard von Blucher

Mikkel
26th August 2008, 08:31
In his bid to abolish the religion sanctioned dictatorship of his country he commited regicide and later dismissed the parliament he sought to empower - thus effectively becoming a dictator himself.

Winston001
26th August 2008, 08:56
Old Ironsides - Oliver Cromwell. Hmmm...... I'd considered Ironsides earlier but couldn't tie it to an agrarian gentleman. :dodge:

Mikkel
26th August 2008, 09:12
There we are...

He was a Yeoman farmer - and a puritan.

Your turn :)

Winston001
26th August 2008, 10:12
Great clues Mikkel, you and Trudes are doing our heads in. I need to do some work so someone else have a go. :niceone:

martybabe
26th August 2008, 12:04
I'll jump in then. A little detective trail.

The owner of the wonderful bottom in my avatar had a singing partner who's dad was a sergeant in the forces of a little fella who bequeathed power, such as it was to another little fella. The second little fella, who wasn't a big fan of religion, named one of his sons, who later went on to become a Catholic priest, after the first fella.

The son had a brother named after a disgraced high ranking member of the first fellas regime. This high ranking fella was called ?? :confused:


If you can follow that load of crap, your a top man/woman and will be blinged accordingly.

actually it's quite easy if ya do it in steps.

MisterD
26th August 2008, 12:22
Rudolf Hess.

**Edit**
Martin Adolf was the priest
Rudolf the brother
Martin Bormann the father.

Trudes
26th August 2008, 12:24
Tom Cruise. I think it was all the talk of little fellas that made me say that! :lol: Oh no, I got stuck on the name of some little fella and an arse that looks like Nicole Kidman... please excuse this stupid post! haha

Mikkel
26th August 2008, 12:38
So who's the owner of the wonderful bottom in your avatar Martybabe?

MisterD
26th August 2008, 12:40
I take it the avatar arse belongs to Agwhatsit from ABBA? Isn't she a product of a Nazi breeding program? I digress, next clue:-

The site of this famous hard man and drug user's death remains a shrine to this day. His famous "last words" are a fitting epitaph.

Trudes
26th August 2008, 12:42
Jim Morrison

MisterD
26th August 2008, 12:44
Cold, very cold - but I can see where that came from.

martybabe
26th August 2008, 12:56
So who's the owner of the wonderful bottom in your avatar Martybabe?

That is indeed the bottom of agnetha from abba, Her mate Frieda(i think) was the product of the plan to flood Europe with aryan blood I.e. nice looking totty matched with Nazi males, Beggars belief but there ya go.

Well done Mister D, green sent. :third:

MisterD
26th August 2008, 13:02
nice looking totty matched with Nazi males, Beggars belief but there ya go.

Does the "end" justify the means? geddit? :shifty:

Winston001
26th August 2008, 13:38
Dylan Thomas

MisterD
26th August 2008, 13:56
He was the first Brit to make a mark in Europe's biggest sporting event.

Winston001
26th August 2008, 14:16
Tom Simpson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Simpson)?

MisterD
26th August 2008, 14:20
Well done that man. It's bloody difficult to give an extra clue without giving it away too easily...

Winston001
26th August 2008, 19:30
This Nobel prizewinner was nominated by another winner but didn't receive the award for another 4 years. Some years later he was detained in custody for 6 months.

Timber020
26th August 2008, 19:47
Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Winston001
26th August 2008, 20:02
Nice guess but no. This chap had his uncertain moments and it was the British who held him in custody.

Winston001
26th August 2008, 20:44
He's one of those people, like the guy who nominated him, who is able to take quantum leaps in his mind.

Winston001
27th August 2008, 00:50
He was investigated at one time by the Schutzstaffel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel) because of his academic rigor. Later he became the director of a world-renowned institute. In the intervening period he was involved with work akin to the Manhattan Project.

Mikkel
27th August 2008, 06:49
Werner Heisenberg


The next guy once stiched two identical twins together.

Winston001
27th August 2008, 09:11
Werner Heisenberg


The next guy once stiched two identical twins together.

Yes.

Quick guess - Dr Josef Mengele?

Mikkel
27th August 2008, 09:41
Correct - AKA the angel of death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele). Bloody quick.

Winston001
27th August 2008, 10:09
Well he is known for his work with twins, plus I'd been reading about Nazi Germany for Heisenberg.

Someone else jump in. :Punk:

Mikkel
27th August 2008, 10:13
Well he is known for his work with twins, plus I'd been reading about Nazi Germany for Heisenberg.

True, still you'd have to dig pretty deep looking at the prominent nazis to stumble upon Mengele. He does get a significant mention in the horror story that is Auschwitz-Birkenau... Should have left out the twins I reckon.

Winston001
27th August 2008, 10:40
Been to Dachau, read plenty about the Holocaust, so probably an intuitive jump. It's difficult to give vague but accurate clues without tipping off the sharp-eyed people here. Fun. :yes:

Winston001
27th August 2008, 13:52
This person is one of the most significant figures in our Anglo history but is little known by the general public. He knew Guy Fawkes, and his books were on the Mayflower.

Mikkel
27th August 2008, 14:04
Robert Browne?

Winston001
27th August 2008, 15:58
Nup. The USA in particular, but NZ and other nation too, bear the hallmarks of this mans influential work, thus the importance of the writings on the Mayflower in the case of the USA.

Mikkel
27th August 2008, 16:47
James Stuart - AKA James I of England then. Not his work, but "his" translation of the bible.

Of course you could be cryptic and go for god... Seeing as Guy Fawkes was baptised and as such known to god - and god, allegedly, is the true author of the bible.
I took the "knew Guy Fawkes" to indicate that it was a contemporary character.

Winston001
27th August 2008, 17:15
Ooohhh Mikkel you are a clever guy and probably the sort of chap who creates cryptic cross-words in his spare time. I hadn't thought of the Bible but it meets the same criteria. Good guess.



But......





no.




You are nevertheless on the cusp. This chap certainly knew James I - who held the Devine Right of Kings policy. My man disagreed and they had their testy moments.

Mikkel
27th August 2008, 17:21
In that case I believe we are left with Francis Bacon.

I actually had thought of him - but got myself confused by the 1600s vs. 17th century thing.

And considering the science thread I should have gotten it earlier. Thinking he was 100 years off the mark just kinda excluded him. ;)

Winston001
27th August 2008, 20:46
Hmmmm....sorry mate, not Bacon. I'm impressed though, hadn't considered him at all and yes, he was influential. In fact these two men had to have rubbed shoulders and argued but I can't be bothered researching. The difference is that Bacon was Jame's shiny boy.....

Really you almost had this man when you drew on James I because he stood up to the King. Its odd really but he's maybe better known in the USA (in specialised circles) than here. This man who lived in the 17th century is referred to in the film, The Paperchase, and in occasional judgements in US courts. But probably most people wouldn't notice.

Which has just reminded me of my next mystery person..... :devil2:


Mayflower -Revolution -Constitution. Where did the concepts stem from?

Winston001
27th August 2008, 21:22
Who was the leading jurist who wrote the book (not quite literally) on English law and provided the foundation concepts of American law?

Timber020
27th August 2008, 21:42
easy, it was matlock.

Winston001
28th August 2008, 13:06
Matlock eh? Another good try.


Sir Edward Coke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Coke) (prounced Cook) is known as the father of english law. James I proclaimed the Divine Right of Kings and Coke staunchly resisted this concept. All of the arguments with James eventually led to Oliver Cromwell and the Revolution. Coke for example was a prime mover of the Petition of Right which clipped the Kings wings. James son, Charles I eventually lost his head over this. :D

Cokes writings and decisions as a judge went to the New Colonies with the Mayflower and formed the basis of American law as it is today. In particular his jurisprudence was drawn on for the Constitution.

Apologies team, a bit too obscure, but a man worth knowing about. Kind of a Shakespeare of the law.

Mikkel
28th August 2008, 13:35
Well, go again mate :yes:

It's quite ok that no-one guesses it :)

Winston001
28th August 2008, 20:37
I was hoping someone else would jump in. This person has two personas, both real, but one of which is a secret to all but the closest friends. . Ask your kids.

Mikkel
28th August 2008, 20:48
Bruce Wayne?

Winston001
28th August 2008, 20:57
Dang Mikkel, once again you come up with a solution I hadn't even considered. No, because both personas are storybook.


One of the personas is a real live person and daddy is a singer.

Winston001
28th August 2008, 21:34
She has a TV show, and a recent TV movie in 3D

Trudes
28th August 2008, 21:37
Hannah Montana/ Miley Cyrus
I didn't even have to google that one! :o

Winston001
29th August 2008, 00:32
You da gal Trudes - go for it.

Trudes
29th August 2008, 08:16
This person has something in common with Oscar Wilde and Jim Morrison. This Pole never married and requested that his heart be removed upon his death as he was afraid of being buried alive. He died at the age of 39 from pulmonary tuberculosis.

MisterD
29th August 2008, 08:52
Chopin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopin). The only famous Pole I could think of. (Ok, I mean pronounce!)

Trudes
29th August 2008, 09:12
Chopin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopin). The only famous Pole I could think of. (Ok, I mean pronounce!)

Yep, not too cryptic this time eh!
Your turn.

MisterD
29th August 2008, 09:46
Famously undefeated, he gives his name to a street in our Queen City

Mully
29th August 2008, 09:58
Cyril Karanghape. Known as Cyril K to his mates....

Mully
29th August 2008, 10:04
Lord Kitchener

Mikkel
29th August 2008, 16:07
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. ?

MisterD
29th August 2008, 17:17
Soldier and statesman, he wouldn't have been a horse, if he'd been born in a stable.

MisterD
30th August 2008, 13:40
...and the giveaway clue.

Known as "Nosey" or "The Peer".

Edit: I'll give you until tomorrow morning.

Winston001
31st August 2008, 00:09
Duke of Wellington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Wellington)

MisterD
31st August 2008, 06:54
Finally!

Indeed - Sir Arthur Wellesley, who (allegedly) was touchy about his birth in Ireland hence the attributed quotation about being Irish: "Being born in a stable would not make one a horse."

Next!

Winston001
31st August 2008, 21:00
Ah, thought the stable was some deeply cryptic reference to Wellington boots. :whistle:

Someone else have a go got to spread it around.

Mikkel
31st August 2008, 21:32
This clerk enjoyed poetry, played guitar and did away with need for ether.

(This should be pretty bloody easy!)

Winston001
1st September 2008, 09:12
OK, a quick punt, Albert Einstein.

Mikkel
1st September 2008, 09:24
Well, while he was a clerk at the patent office I don't think he had anything to do with neither ether or played guitar for that matter.

So, no.

martybabe
1st September 2008, 10:04
Samuel Guthrie ?

Winston001
1st September 2008, 10:20
Well, while he was a clerk at the patent office I don't think he had anything to do with neither ether or played guitar for that matter.

So, no.

Fair enough, clerk and ether fit but poetry and guitar were a bit questionable.... :D

MisterD
1st September 2008, 11:09
Clerk! James Clerk Maxwell? He of the equations?

Mikkel
1st September 2008, 13:08
That is the one :yes:

Good effort!

Maxwell's equations, when combined, shows that electro-magnetic radiation propagate as waves through space. When you extract the propagation velocity of the this resulting wave you have a figure consisting of universal constants (permittivity and permeability of free space) and material variables (relative permittivity and permeability (=1 in free space)) which, for free space, yields a figure very close to three hundred million meters per second - AKA c, the speed of light. People had measured the speed of light pretty precisely at this point - but here Maxwell provided a theoretical figure based on already known constants which matched the experimental figures too closely to be a conincidence.

Maxwell's equation didn't assume any carrier medium (the ether) for these waves, but still provide accurate prediction of their propagation.
The equations didn't answer all questions - and Einstein's theory of relativity did a lot too smooth out some of the "potholes" in the understanding of such matters.

David Morgan-Mar, author of Irregular Webcomic, explains it all very well in the commentary to one of his webcomics: http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1420.html

MisterD
1st September 2008, 17:14
Next one:

This Dutchman's timing was deadly.

Mikkel
1st September 2008, 22:59
Huygens? ... Christiaan Huygens that is.

MisterD
2nd September 2008, 05:59
No. You need to think more mechanically.

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 09:01
Clerk! James Clerk Maxwell? He of the equations?

Well bugger, I looked at Maxwell but considered that Einstein got rid of the Aether with his General theory. :beer:

dino3310
2nd September 2008, 09:19
Jacob Waltz

MisterD
2nd September 2008, 09:45
Jacob Waltz

No, but I can use that to add another clue. Waltz was a German, who people thought was Dutch. The guy you're looking for was Dutch, but most people probably think he was German.

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 13:17
Maurits Cornelis Escher - ok I know it isn't him but he's an interesting Dutchman anyway. :D

MisterD
2nd September 2008, 13:28
OK, recap the clues time:

We're looking for a Dutch engineer who you might think was German. His perfection of someone else's patented invention made his main product much more deadly.

If that doesn't give it away, his name is usually linked with the famous operator of his products, who was German.

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 14:26
Oh ok, Anthony Fokker. Inventor of the timed machinegun to fire through propellors. Worked with Hugo Junkers.

Hitcher
2nd September 2008, 14:27
Died of Huntingdon's Disease, proving that one really can get anything that one wants.

MisterD
2nd September 2008, 15:14
Well done Winston.

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 19:19
This author is seen as selfish and an iconoclast by many but compellingly rational by others.

Hitcher
2nd September 2008, 20:24
L Ron Hubbard.

How about guessing my clue?

Trudes
2nd September 2008, 20:34
It wasn't your turn Hitcher, you have to guess right before you can play.... follow the rules man!!!

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 20:36
L Ron Hubbard.

How about guessing my clue?

No worries, we'll run two at once. :clap:

Trudes
2nd September 2008, 20:41
But but but we can't have anarchy taking over, and we may end up with bad grammar and spelling!!!:lol: oh shit, I used a smiley!

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 20:43
Hitcher - Woody Guthrie

Hitcher
2nd September 2008, 20:49
Close, but no cigar.

Hitcher
2nd September 2008, 20:51
No worries, we'll run two at once.

Did I get it right?

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 21:02
My apologies, NO. But nice guess, hadn't thought of Hubbard. This person is still alive and the concept of God is irrational to him.


You aren't thinking about Jerry Garcia??

McJim
2nd September 2008, 21:21
My apologies, NO. But nice guess, hadn't thought of Hubbard. This person is still alive and the concept of God is irrational to him.


You aren't thinking about Jerry Garcia??

Camilo Jose Cela? I like guessing but don't actually want to win since I can never think of the next person!

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 21:32
No Jamie. This man is a popular science writer. Controversial even, particularly in the US Bible Belt. His thinking has evolved but he blames it on his genes.

McJim
2nd September 2008, 21:38
No Jamie. This man is a popular science writer. Controversial even, particularly in the US Bible Belt. His thinking has evolved but he blames it on his genes.

Stephen R Donaldson? I liked Mordant's Need and the Gap series but found the Chrocicles of Thomas Covenant hard work to get through....it's not him though is it?

Winston001
2nd September 2008, 21:43
Stephen R Donaldson? I liked Mordant's Need and the Gap series but found the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant hard work to get through....it's not him though is it?

No but that gloomy bustard Thomas Covenant might be just who Hitcher is looking for. :spanking:

My man is real, the science is real, Intelligent Design isn't real - and he says so. He's a POM so I don't expect you to know him. :niceone:

MisterD
3rd September 2008, 08:09
No but that gloomy bustard Thomas Covenant might be just who Hitcher is looking for. :spanking:

My man is real, the science is real, Intelligent Design isn't real - and he says so. He's a POM so I don't expect you to know him. :niceone:

Richard Dawkins, but I won't set a new one, we're still waiting on Hitcher's aren't we?

Hitcher
3rd September 2008, 08:57
Indeed we are.

Mikkel
3rd September 2008, 12:18
Richard Dawkins, but I won't set a new one, we're still waiting on Hitcher's aren't we?

Hitcher is... I'm not. Trudes was right on the money AFAIAC.

Hitcher
3rd September 2008, 12:44
Did Trudes have a guess at my clue, or am I missing something?

Trudes
3rd September 2008, 12:47
No, but Mikkel has obviously been talking to Kendog and now understands that Trudes is always right! :lol:

Winston001
3rd September 2008, 13:23
Died of Huntingdon's Disease, proving that one really can get anything that one wants.

Hmmm..perhaps another teensy wincy clue...?

Hitcher
3rd September 2008, 14:49
Hmmm..perhaps another teensy wincy clue...?

If people are struggling with the original clue, it's because he's not dead as I thought he was. My mistake. His father is though, as per the original clue.

Winston001
3rd September 2008, 15:27
Oh - you bad man!! :doh: Arlo Guthrie. "You can get anything you want" As in "Alices's Restaurant" where Huntington's appears in reference to his father, Woody Guthrie. Sheesh.

Got sidetracked onto the Rolling Stones - "You Can't Always Get What You Want"......


So in fact, the correct answer appeared earlier......but the question was mistook? :D

Hitcher
3rd September 2008, 15:50
Whoops. Sorry. My second question (if I'm allowed to pose one) will be much better, I promise...

Arlo Guthrie is the answer I sought.

Next!

Winston001
3rd September 2008, 15:57
Whoops. Sorry. My second question (if I'm allowed to pose one) will be much better, I promise...

!

Hmmm....sorry is all very well but we are unforgiving 1%ers under our urbane exteriors. You'll have to eat some dead cat or something at the next KB rally. :spanking:


MisterD - you are up. :niceone:

MisterD
3rd September 2008, 20:40
The Reverend stands alongside Bowie and was rated by Hendrix.

Mikkel
3rd September 2008, 22:03
A bit of a shot in the dark - James Brown.

Mully
3rd September 2008, 22:10
Al Green?

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Mikkel
3rd September 2008, 22:21
Difficult - Little Richard would be another guess...

MisterD
4th September 2008, 05:52
Ha ha excellent! Nowhere near....now, how to expand the clue without completely giving it away?

It's not the Bowie you might be thinking of.

Mikkel
4th September 2008, 08:31
Martin Luther King perhaps.

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 08:37
Davy Crockett.

MisterD
4th September 2008, 08:40
Moving in the right direction Hitcher, but what links Bowie and Crockett? How would that relate to Hendrix?

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 08:45
The Alamo's Watchtower.

Mikkel
4th September 2008, 09:17
The Alamo's Watchtower.

Provided that the Bowie in question is James Bowie I was making the same connection... However, All Along the Watchtower was written by Dylan and is generally taken to be more of a contemporary timepiece describing the absurdity of the 60-70.

There are however plenty of different Bowies.

MisterD
4th September 2008, 09:29
James Bowie is the right Bowie. So what status do both he and Crockett hold because of the events at the Alamo?

Who else (still living) holds the same status (but for different reasons).

The mystery person was highly rated by Hendrix (yes, Jimi) as a young man - what skill would we expect JH to be commenting on?

That's probably far too many hints..:rockon:

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 09:56
Chuck Norris. He played the part of a Texas Ranger and instructed a young Jimi Hendrix in the ways of martial arts.

MisterD
4th September 2008, 10:19
Texas something, but not Ranger.

Mikkel
4th September 2008, 11:31
Billy Gibbons AKA Reverend Willie G

Texas Blues

Beard -> Wildman

MisterD
4th September 2008, 11:43
Billy Gibbons AKA Reverend Willie G

Texas Blues

Beard -> Wildman

Right answer, but no extra marks for the workings - ZZ Top are official "Texas Heroes" as are Bowie, Crockett et al. Billy Gibbons was described by Jimi as the best young guitarist in the country back in 1969.

You got the Reverend bit though :niceone:

Mikkel
4th September 2008, 11:53
Well, I'm off to a seminar now. Someone else grab the reins :)

Texas blues was still what got me in the right direction...
I was struggling trying to find a music pioneer who is also a reverend. No luck until I stumbled upon Gibbons.

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 12:44
[Let's see if I can get this one right]

Heard god in tutti frutti but eschewed the Monkees.

Winston001
4th September 2008, 13:07
Little Richard

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 13:09
Nope. Wrong colour.

Winston001
4th September 2008, 13:48
Michael Nesmith?

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 14:15
Nope. Wrong nationality. Also he did not eschew the Monkees, or have the same name as a Monkee (whoops, may have slipped a clue in there somewhere)

Winston001
4th September 2008, 14:41
[Let's see if I can get this one right]




Heard god in tutti frutti but eschewed the Monkees.


Quoi?? :devil2:

MisterD
4th September 2008, 15:24
Robbie Coltrane? His breakthrough role was in a Beeb programme called Tutti Frutti....barking tree wrong up?

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 16:11
We're after a musician. And a reasonably famous one at that.

Winston001
4th September 2008, 16:20
Jerry Lee Lewis

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 16:22
We're after a musician who's not American. Mind you, not all of the Monkees were American either (goodness, was that another clue?)

martybabe
4th September 2008, 17:03
David Jones.

Winston001
4th September 2008, 17:04
Aaarrrggghhhh if I ever catch up with you Hitcher there is a lynching for your obscure clues.... :D


David Bowie, the artist formally known as David Jones......:sweatdrop

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 19:49
Well done Marty. Your turn, I think?

martybabe
4th September 2008, 20:34
Well done Marty. Your turn, I think?

Good clues mate, me and dave go way back.

This person experimented with Blossom and Sarah

Hitcher
4th September 2008, 20:52
Joseph Mengele

martybabe
4th September 2008, 21:21
No, although both used humans as guinea pigs, my person at least did it for the potential benefit to mankind.

Mikkel
4th September 2008, 22:55
Would be poor form too since we've already been over Mengele :yes:

A quick guess - Calvin Klein.

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 08:43
Howard Hughes.

martybabe
5th September 2008, 09:25
No, sorry guys. In this eighteenth century guys most famous and successful experiment, Blossom gave something to Sarah, My guy took that something and gave it to James Phipps.

Timber020
5th September 2008, 10:12
Oh the blossum to sarah thing was the give away, He took cowpox from blossum the cow and gave it to Sarah the with the idea it would vacinate sarah from getting small pox which was deadly back then. Although its thought Benjamin Jesty had done it at least a decade before then with less noise.
I think it was edward jenner. I saw a series on disease a while back. Had to google his name though.

martybabe
5th September 2008, 11:38
Oh the blossom to sarah thing was the give away, He took cowpox from blossom the cow and gave it to Sarah the with the idea it would vaccinate sarah from getting small pox which was deadly back then. Although its thought Benjamin Jesty had done it at least a decade before then with less noise.
I think it was edward jenner. I saw a series on disease a while back. Had to google his name though.

It was indeed Edward Jenner. Blossom the cow gave cowpox to Sarah, Jenner gave a dose of it to James Phipps and then infected poor old James with smallpox but luckily for James, Smallpox didn't take hold. Bish bash bosh, immunization was bornded.

As for other chaps getting there beforehand , yet almost forgotten in the history books, it's sadly, often a common thing. I believe you had a kiwi flyboy that was running commercial flights before the wright brothers got off the ground. That's life eh.

Well done, on ya go. :niceone:

Mikkel
5th September 2008, 12:24
Oh the blossum to sarah thing was the give away, He took cowpox from blossum the cow and gave it to Sarah the with the idea it would vacinate sarah from getting small pox which was deadly back then. Although its thought Benjamin Jesty had done it at least a decade before then with less noise.
I think it was edward jenner. I saw a series on disease a while back. Had to google his name though.

Yes, that is it. I was considering taking Jenner as my last go too... :yes:
Decided against it and didn't read up on him properly.

Timber020
5th September 2008, 13:11
A christian living in sin (but has intentions of fixing that) and war vetran. Not a fan of the US of A.

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 13:13
Pope Benedict

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 13:13
Robert Fisk

Timber020
5th September 2008, 13:34
No and no, but you do know him without googles help. This guy fought in vietnam.

Timber020
5th September 2008, 16:04
Nobody knows his actual name (dont that suck) but most guys on this site can relate to him. We heard more about him in about 1985, but hes not been out of the limelight much since.

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 16:31
The Unabomber

Timber020
5th September 2008, 16:59
Hes australian, as is the guy that told us about him.

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 18:23
Barry McKenzie

Timber020
5th September 2008, 19:31
Nope, think a little laterally. Youve heard his story at least a hundred times

He has as much faith in the king as he does in his creator and has a heart of gold.

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 20:25
He's a working-class man

Trudes
5th September 2008, 21:05
Jimmy Barnes...:laugh:

Timber020
5th September 2008, 21:15
He's a working-class man

Good man, I tried to come up with someone less googlable and more mind twisting!!!

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 21:41
Cryptic is good. Let's try this one:

Did Clyde make his day?

Laava
5th September 2008, 21:50
Clunt??????????

Hitcher
5th September 2008, 21:55
.........?

Laava
5th September 2008, 22:40
Clunt Eastwood? Sorry must be my accent!

Hitcher
6th September 2008, 16:22
Correct. Your turn.

Laava
6th September 2008, 17:51
Right, staying cryptic, not sure if this actress has had implants but may find gel clones about!

dino3310
6th September 2008, 18:40
angelina jolie

Laava
6th September 2008, 19:58
Go older....

98tls
6th September 2008, 20:10
Raquel Welch?

Laava
6th September 2008, 20:16
Sorry not quite that old. Cryptic meaning there is a clue in the question.

Timber020
6th September 2008, 21:30
Dolly parton perhaps?

Laava
6th September 2008, 22:15
Not Dolly sorry. Only just emerged as a singer as well!

McJim
6th September 2008, 22:19
Meryl Streep?

Laava
6th September 2008, 22:29
Shit, sorry McJim, I got them mixed up! I mistook this person for Meryls character in that new Abba movie. She is though, like a poor mans Meryl Streep!
Anyone who does crytic crosswords should get this piece of piss from the original clue

martybabe
6th September 2008, 23:16
Glen close anagram. I get em mixed up as well.

Laava
7th September 2008, 08:04
Well done that man! Your turn

martybabe
7th September 2008, 09:02
Well done that man! Your turn

Thanx. I'm off out riding most of today. Anybody wanna jump in feel free. :yes:

Hitcher
7th September 2008, 21:19
Try this:

No, he's not Mini's sister.

McJim
7th September 2008, 21:23
Try this:

No, he's not Mini's sister.

David Coulthard? (Has the same chin and is a Driver :rofl:)

Timber020
7th September 2008, 21:25
Buurrrrpp sorry.

Winston001
7th September 2008, 21:46
Dick Driver?

Hitcher
7th September 2008, 22:08
You're thinking in the right direction. Reread the question...

McJim
7th September 2008, 23:10
Alanis Morrisette? (used to be a bloke I hear....'is name was Alan Morris)

Winston001
9th September 2008, 11:29
Umm...we don't seem to be progressing here....any clues as to what "Mini" might be....or the person we are looking for? Is it Mini or Minnie?

Hitcher
9th September 2008, 12:50
It's Mini. Indeed a particular type of Mini.

Winston001
9th September 2008, 13:31
John Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cooper_%28car_maker%29)?

Mini Moke?

Morris (Mini-Minor)?

Hitcher
9th September 2008, 13:35
Dangerously close to explaining the clue...

Trudes
9th September 2008, 13:41
Mini me.
Mini mouse.
:confused:

Hitcher
9th September 2008, 13:44
The car thing seemed to be working...

Winston001
9th September 2008, 13:45
Danger Mouse

martybabe
9th September 2008, 13:46
Alec issigonis

Mickey mouse

Mini skirt

Mr countryman

Mr clubman

My Dad

:oi-grr:

Winston001
9th September 2008, 13:55
Well if Marty can do that I'll join in :bash:

Mary Quant

Morris Minor