The BMW GS boxer twin thread

[GSers]

Hi GSers, I took an impact on my Ankle on the same part of the ride Where Aslan hurt his shoulder. I didn't actually think it was that bad, like a couple of Nurofen Morning and night for 2 days then no more pain killers. Rode for another 10 days around the south island, then back to work and that was when the Ankle started to swell up quite bad as it was out of bike boots. Xray showed I have broken a bit of bone off in a non load bearing area. So in a cast for 6 weeks.

Your bike build looks like it is progressing well.

Howie good to hear you are on the mend lucky the weather is not to hot with a cast on. Its a positive thing you and Aslan (Older and Bolder) riding on with broken bones. Take care and see you out there again soon.
GSers

[Pampera]

Pampera, there was one on trade me the other day for sale not sure if the R100 and the GS are the same but you can never have to many spares?
GSers

Thanks for that - and they are all pretty much the same - but I am determined to return the original gearbox to "as new" so hopefully I don't ever need a spare!
Michael

[Team Buffoon]

My condolences to all the injured and hope the below helps you on the way to recovery.
A number of stars recently aligned.
I had always liked the look of the R80G/S right back from when it was released. Never rode one and now they seem like hen's teeth.
I bought a KTM 950 a few years back as a present to myself and although it was great on the road and a bit of gravel I was never going to have the balls or skill to ride it offroad.
To get into Adventure riding I bought an old DR650 and did a couple of rides. It ticked the boxes so I sold it a bought a newer one. It's a great bike in its way but it cries out for tweaking and is a true UJM with no phoaaar factor at all.
Anyway need to make some space in the shed and raise some funds so decide to sell the KTM. Second guy to express interest calls around to look at it and bugger me there he is on a tidy G/S. The usual chat ensues and a sale turns into a trade plus cash, well when something like that happens you just can't ignore it - it's meant to be.
Not sure the dear old thing is too happy to be moving house it broke down on me a mile from home on my first ride and I had to push it home. After a lot of fiddling it turned out (I think, I am never sure with electrics!) to be a dodgy kill switch. Loads of CRC and wriggling and hey presto brum brummmm. Yesterday went to the racing at Paeroa and got a flat just before the car park, could have been a worse place. Phoned a local tyre shop who wanted $250 to come in and fix it. Local bike shop inside the circuit said they could fix it. So back out to the bike wonder if the toolkit has all we need? It does. Puncture fixed with an old tube they had lying around, how much I ask $10 he says here's $20 I say. Good on you the custom shop in Paeroa! So we watch some racing and head home. It pogoes like mad at 50kmh but smoothes out by 80. So a bumpy ride but we are home a succesful day.
The engine has quite some poke and has 100 on the barrels so I think it must be more than a 800 in there, nice and smooth and sounds good too with that pipe. Front and rear are rock hard like a late seventies eyetie and I think would need to be looked at before any serious offroading and the front brake well something needs to be done to that before I go two up with luggage anywhere but to be fair the disc is pretty worn.
So all in all I am a happy camper. A new toy to play with and tweak. Think I will see what it is like to live with for a bit and then the DR maybe looking for a new home. So standby for all sorts of numpty questions from someone completely new to BMs.
Couple of not very enlightening photos below.

[Box'a'bits]

Looks very nice. Someone has loved that bike...

If its go 100 on the barrels then its a 1000cc..

[Team Buffoon]

Looks very nice. Someone has loved that bike...

If its go 100 on the barrels then its a 1000cc..

Thank you it certainly seems well looked after.
Re engine size the previous owner told me that although it had bigger barrels on it he thought it had been sleeved down to 800 again. Anyway one day I will have a look inside and get to the bottom of it, right now I will just enjoy the smooth power.

[Aslan]

Very nice G/S - pleased for you - I was lurking (dreaming) of your extremely tidy KTM 950 - pleased you got an outcome that works for you - cheers Aslan

[Gman71]

I knew you would see the light and buy a BMW one day.
Nice bike. Hope I can keep up.

[Oscar]

My condolences to all the injured and hope the below helps you on the way to recovery.
A number of stars recently aligned.
I had always liked the look of the R80G/S right back from when it was released. Never rode one and now they seem like hen's teeth.
I bought a KTM 950 a few years back as a present to myself and although it was great on the road and a bit of gravel I was never going to have the balls or skill to ride it offroad.
To get into Adventure riding I bought an old DR650 and did a couple of rides. It ticked the boxes so I sold it a bought a newer one. It's a great bike in its way but it cries out for tweaking and is a true UJM with no phoaaar factor at all.
Anyway need to make some space in the shed and raise some funds so decide to sell the KTM. Second guy to express interest calls around to look at it and bugger me there he is on a tidy G/S. The usual chat ensues and a sale turns into a trade plus cash, well when something like that happens you just can't ignore it - it's meant to be.
Not sure the dear old thing is too happy to be moving house it broke down on me a mile from home on my first ride and I had to push it home. After a lot of fiddling it turned out (I think, I am never sure with electrics!) to be a dodgy kill switch. Loads of CRC and wriggling and hey presto brum brummmm. Yesterday went to the racing at Paeroa and got a flat just before the car park, could have been a worse place. Phoned a local tyre shop who wanted $250 to come in and fix it. Local bike shop inside the circuit said they could fix it. So back out to the bike wonder if the toolkit has all we need? It does. Puncture fixed with an old tube they had lying around, how much I ask $10 he says here's $20 I say. Good on you the custom shop in Paeroa! So we watch some racing and head home. It pogoes like mad at 50kmh but smoothes out by 80. So a bumpy ride but we are home a succesful day.
The engine has quite some poke and has 100 on the barrels so I think it must be more than a 800 in there, nice and smooth and sounds good too with that pipe. Front and rear are rock hard like a late seventies eyetie and I think would need to be looked at before any serious offroading and the front brake well something needs to be done to that before I go two up with luggage anywhere but to be fair the disc is pretty worn.
So all in all I am a happy camper. A new toy to play with and tweak. Think I will see what it is like to live with for a bit and then the DR maybe looking for a new home. So standby for all sorts of numpty questions from someone completely new to BMs.
Couple of not very enlightening photos below.

Is that von Trigger?

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/MMM/IMG2798/487187574_V5nDt-M.jpg

[Padmei]

Excellent Stuff TB:yes:
Before you get too carried away & sell your DR take the G/S for a few cruisy offroad rides & see how you like it. You may want to keep the DR as a bush basher for those rides where you may break bits off the G/S.

If you are after some good info, the airheads forum on adv rider is excellent.

Your bike would look splendid with the older (but weaker apparently) peanut valve covers.

[Padmei]

Nice R80GS on trademe at the mo- if you like the stock ones:confused:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-444204179.htm

[Woodman]

Nice R80GS on trademe at the mo- if you like the stock ones:confused:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-444204179.htm

Hard to look past this though.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-448900497.htm






Wonder what it would be like going over the Porika?

[Team Buffoon]

Thanks very much Aslan. The 950 sure was tidy and should make the new owner very happy. Poor devil was off for a pre planned w/e trip then off to Aussie with work for the week so will be gagging to give it a good thrashing by the w/e. If anyone sees a black 950 blatting around north of Auckland this w/e it will be him!

Gman reckon you can still lead til I get the hang of the beast, we must get some gravel soon.

Curmudgeon it is indeed Von Trigger in all his glory.

Padmei due to my collection it really should be the G/S or the DR. If its that knarly then whatever I am riding I will probably be on my arse! Need more practice.

[Eddieb]

Nice R80GS on trademe at the mo- if you like the stock ones:confused:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-444204179.htm

It's been sold. Not surprised either at that price.

[Padmei]

Hard to look past this though.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-448900497.htm

Wonder what it would be like going over the Porika?

Yes that is cool. After having the GB400TT tho I know how long you can ride one comfortably for tho.
There are quite a few nice airhead roadbikes on there - in fact there are heaps of every type of bike on there. If only I won lotto & could start my collection.
An FT500 would def not be in there tho

[Padmei]

Another GS for sale on trademe for a good price. I know the owner of this one & he has a young family so can't get out riding at all.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-453454687.htm

2nd sparky this month up here that has sold their airhead.

[Pampera]

So glad I reverted to a two valve GS after a decade of fuel injected GS singles!

Gearbox (1993 R80GS) removed today to find and rectify the source of noise, glittery flakes in the oil and sludge on the drain plug.
Michael

Source of the glittery flakes was a disintegrating bearing race, sludge is the rest of the bearing and the noise was the preceeding having their entropy reduced. Gearbox bearing very close to complete failure with gearbox break up almost inevitable if it had.

Motobins are out of stock of bearing kits for weeks (months?) so the R80GS is proving about as useful as the 2007 Dakar it replaced!

Fortunately the RD350LC I bought when I was 24 (27 years ago) has never missed a beat and, thanks to 4 years of disgraceful performance from BMW's new and old, it is busy again. Below - "somewhere east of Hanmer a few weeks ago". Who needs an "adventure" bike when you have skinny 18 inch diameter wheels..........".

Michael

[Box'a'bits]

Motobins are out of stock of bearing kits for weeks (months?) so the R80GS is proving about as useful as the 2007 Dakar it replaced!
Can't get them from one of the other suppliers, or prefer to wait for Motobins?

Unfortunate re the gearbox, but once that's fixed...

What we really need is a communal 'spare' for moments like these.

Did you see the solo seat & rack on Tme. See its dropped to a more reasonable $400

[Pampera]

Can't get them from one of the other suppliers, or prefer to wait for Motobins?


Convenience = husbanding my spare time - is important to me, so I really just want everything, from neutral switch, washers, driveshaft bolts etc. to come in one package from a specialist who knows what to supply, hence the wait.

Yeah, a shared quick change spare sounds like a great idea!
My 1992 R100RS got sold last week so I don't have an exchange one myself either!

Michael

[Pampera]

[QUOTE=Box'a'bits;
Did you see the solo seat & rack on Tme. See its dropped to a more reasonable $400[/QUOTE]

Yes - but as the idea of a GS (or G/S) has always been that Debbie comes along as well, probably not what I need!
One of the solo riders needs to snap it up.

Michael

[BMWST?]

Yes - but as the idea of a GS (or G/S) has always been that Debbie comes along as well, probably not what I need!
One of the solo riders needs to snap it up.

Michael

does the rack somehow bolt up to become an extension of the rearmost one?

[Box'a'bits]

does the rack somehow bolt up to become an extension of the rearmost one?
Yes...but I don't have a picture in my library.

Won't work with my tank (without modification), otherwise I'd be in...

[Padmei]

Yes...but I don't have a picture in my library.

Won't work with my tank (without modification), otherwise I'd be in...

Pretty sure oscar put up a pic of his on here. I saw them on for $800 & thought he was dreaming.
I'm thinking of fabricating a solo seat & rack that is fitted with a couple of quick releases for easy changeover.


I am keeping my eyes out down here for the elusive barn find so I can store away a supply of reconned & working parts - gearbox, final drive etc for that purpose. You can sure as eggs guarantee that they will sell if you never need them.

I bet one will turn up this week when i'm totally skint

[Oscar]

does the rack somehow bolt up to become an extension of the rearmost one?

Yup. It bolts to the end of the solo seat and clips in to the lock where the pillion seat fitted.

[Team Buffoon]

Perhaps its been sold already but I can't find the solo seat and rack on TMe. If someone has it on their watchlist would they be kind enough to post it or PM me it please.

[Box'a'bits]

Perhaps its been sold already but I can't find the solo seat and rack on TMe. If someone has it on their watchlist would they be kind enough to post it or PM me it please.Solo seat linky (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=453069345). Won't work on your bike. Needs to be a Paralever

[Oscar]

I got mine from Boxxerparts:

http://www.boxxerparts.de/xtcshop/product_info.php?info=p341_Single-seat-for-BMW-R-80-G-S-Monolever--orange.html

I bought the orange single seat and the luggae rack and landed them for a smidgen over $600. They're not OEM, but very well made.

[Team Buffoon]

Solo seat linky (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=453069345). Won't work on your bike. Needs to be a Paralever

Ah good saves me from possibly spending some more money! Thanks.

[Box'a'bits]

Yes...but I don't have a picture in my library.
Found one. GS Paralever with the solo seat & rack.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z0eay2vW2GI/T1MPCCiSLRI/AAAAAAAAKzg/w5c2ovqXmEM/s800/184.JPG

[barrie]

My first proper bike was a LC 250, like a swiss watch even with a race tune







Source of the glittery flakes was a disintegrating bearing race, sludge is the rest of the bearing and the noise was the preceeding having their entropy reduced. Gearbox bearing very close to complete failure with gearbox break up almost inevitable if it had.

Motobins are out of stock of bearing kits for weeks (months?) so the R80GS is proving about as useful as the 2007 Dakar it replaced!

Fortunately the RD350LC I bought when I was 24 (27 years ago) has never missed a beat and, thanks to 4 years of disgraceful performance from BMW's new and old, it is busy again. Below - "somewhere east of Hanmer a few weeks ago". Who needs an "adventure" bike when you have skinny 18 inch diameter wheels..........".

Michael

[Box'a'bits]

Here's a linky (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770055). Replaces Crashbars. 1/2 the weight. More protection. As used on Paul Rooney's racebike. Made in Chrome Moly. Me likey... :2thumbsup

[Padmei]

Yes I saw those on Stagehands thread. As you know he's been offered a Paul Rooney bike to ride on the Safari.

Myself I don't really like them - I don't really like the crashbars either. I've heard of the crash bars twisting frames etc but they don't hide that beautiful engine. I reckon a better looking alternative would be a type of blade running lengthways down the head. No not like Grease or Ben Hur - the other way:wacko:

[Box'a'bits]

Yes I saw those on Stagehands thread. As you know he's been offered a Paul Rooney bike to ride on the Safari.

Myself I don't really like them - I don't really like the crashbars either. I've heard of the crash bars twisting frames etc but they don't hide that beautiful engine.
I think that they look practical for bikes that are more ADV oriented. In practice I don't think they'll be that visible (after all they are under the barrels). They look to offer better protection for twin plugs (if that is of concern). & they will be less obtrusive on 4wd tracks, where the crashbars hang up in ruts. Have a look at the slideshow in the link. More pictures of your favourite orange framed R65

[Pampera]

Source of the glittery flakes was a disintegrating bearing race, sludge is the rest of the bearing and the noise was the preceeding having their entropy reduced. Gearbox bearing very close to complete failure with gearbox break up almost inevitable if it had.

Motobins are out of stock of bearing kits for weeks (months?) so the R80GS is proving about as useful as the 2007 Dakar it replaced!



Motobins order arrived after a week delayed by Customs, gearbox was rebuilt and I started installing it on Friday night. Driveline was completely reinstalled Saturday afternoon but with the bike on the centrestand turning the rear wheel revealed the gut wrenching sound of something in the driveline graunching and fouling every few cm of turning. Any load on the swing arm upwards - even just upwards force exerted by hand - and the wheel turned freely. Talk about frustrated, angry and demoralised. This was meant to be going back to dependable basics after 4 years of the electrical disaster that is a modern EFI BMW.

To cut a long story short, eventual result was dismantling again (this time including the final drive end of the assembly as well) to reveal the driveshaft attach nuts were fouling the front lower lip of the driveshaft tube (swingarm tube). Checking everything and careful reassembly delivered the same result. I could not see anything I had done wrong. Had a visit from Mike D tonight and he confirmed the same.

All was as expected. The only cause for the symptoms could be that the shock is a touch too long (or the Paralever arm a touch too short). Causes I discounted in favour of a mistake by me during reassembly. The Paralever was not removed from the bike and unlikely to be different. However after checking everything Mike noted that the damper had evidence of slight damage and that entry had been made into it (rebuild of sealed damper). Most significantly, with no preload the spring was loose enough to turn, suggesting the stops had settled or been damaged. The cause can only be the shock is mm too long, dropping the end of the shaft down slightly below its normal full extension (Paralever tips final drive down at its front multiplying the effect) and bringing the gearbox - shaft flange nuts into contact with the inside lower front of the swing arm tube.

Picture shows the over tilted geometry that results (it is the far end that fouls).

Mike is lending me a standard shock to check this, the factory manual does not specify eye-eye length for the damper/spring assembly.

Helps my morale knowing it was not me, but talk about discouraging.

I like the Paralever even less than before. The shaft end of the front rubber bellows (the poorly shaped Morobins one) is a bear to install and there was a whole lot of other rubbish to strip and reassemble at the final drive end. I was luckly (and used some tricks) to get the spline to re-engage (was checking I had not displaced it and caused the problem) but on the earlier models apparently this can reduce a professional mechanic to "walking away for a rest". Monolever rules! I just rode carefully to keep the bike attitude level. In return no universal joint wear, a simple rubber boot that almost installs itself and a drive that lasts the life of the bike without anything but occasional oil changes! Yes I am a Luddite (now).

Anyway, this suggests that a damper/spring a touch longer than standard could be very dangerous in view of the obviously tiny standard clearances inside the shaft tube on full extension. Watch it.
Michael

[Padmei]

Hmm interesting. I just went out & measured 3 of my shocks. They are all 495mm eye to eye. What's yours?
My final drive looks as goofy as yours on the centre stand.
I have cursed many times trying to get the front gaiter back on. I now take out the battery box, shock etc & tie the driveline up with a tiuedown level. They go on a piece of wees now with a bit of even breathing.

The airheads can be a bit of as bugger getting them back to newish. I had a similar experience after putting my gearbox back together to find a major oil leak out of the rear seal. A pita at the time but work thru it you'll love it when it starts to deliver the miles back to you. They were prob as annoying back when they were new but modern (carbed & basic ) bikes are more user friendly.

[Pampera]

Hmm interesting. I just went out & measured 3 of my shocks. They are all 495mm eye to eye. What's yours?
I have cursed many times trying to get the front gaiter back on. I now take out the battery box, shock etc & tie the driveline up with a tiuedown level. They go on a piece of wees now with a bit of even breathing.

A pita at the time but work thru it you'll love it when it starts to deliver the miles back to you. They were prob as annoying back when they were new but modern (carbed & basic ) bikes are more user friendly.

Hard to measure accurately without some sort of table set up but 502 - 503.5 so far as I can see. Less than half of that 8 mm difference is more than enough to eliminate the fouling. Thanks.

I didn't even contemplate putting the oblong shaft end of the bellows on in situ. It got fitted with the shaft off the bike and was a struggle even with this. The round gearbox end slides right on with a little vaseline with the swingarm in the right place. Part of the problem is the rubbish Motobins pattern part though - it does not match the shape of the BMW part. I am going to measure up their gearbox flange bolts carefully - I would not be surprised if they are a crucial 0.5 mm out in the wrong place also. There is often a reason genuine costs more.

I HAD a perfect airhead (1992 RS), albeit I rescued it from tetering on the edge of the slide to POS, and now am regreting selling it (last month) in favour of this GS. After four years of modern BMW ruined trips I just wanted a bike I could rely on to take Debbie on Adventure rides again. My resilence was worn through 2 years ago!

Forgot to record the reason for the bearing failure - it was the circlip problem, letting the bearing move. On my 89 RS the gear return spring broke at 90,000 km and I got the circlip mod and all new bearings before it happened. GS bearing was worst Mike had ever seen - one step away from complete failure and gearbox break up. So worn there was no feel of "grittiness" left, only air rubbing against air!

Michael

[igormortis]

Interesting. Makes me wonder what tricks are going on here:

http://www.bmwboxertoko.nl/media/foto/Heroes_Legend_640.jpg

The relocated shock mount and shorter torque arm are the most obvious - but your experience would say that some trickery is still needed to avoid gearbox flange to swing arm contact.

[Padmei]

Pah that's photoshopped. look how short the muffler is & the size of the blue exhaust pipe running to it.
Maybe the shortened torque bar just keeps the final drive on that angle so the ride height is increased. I don't think you'd have more travel than a standard para due to the limitations of the UJ but you'd be missing more rocks etc.

[Pampera]

Interesting. Makes me wonder what tricks are going on here:

[]

The relocated shock mount and shorter torque arm are the most obvious - but your experience would say that some trickery is still needed to avoid gearbox flange to swing arm contact.

Something as simple as reducing the size of the flange securing bolt heads (grinding them down for us NZers) would provide extra useable travel at the wheel end of the assembly. I guess the front end of the swingarm tube could also be relieved (cut away for us NZers) and a custom extended rubber boot used to cover over the hole for even more travel.
Michael

[Pampera]

[QUOTE=Pampera;1130295256]Hard to measure accurately without some sort of table set up but 502 - 503.5 so far as I can see. Less than half of that 8 mm difference is more than enough to eliminate the fouling. Thanks.

QUOTE]

After a day of consideration I have decided that a professional approach is required for such a critical component. A ratchet tiedown, suitably tightened, will now form a permanent part of my rear damper/spring assembly so as to deliver the correct no load ride height. However, I am thinking of checking this decision with the UK GS online community first. What do you guys think?

Michael

[Padmei]

You're onto something there Michael. i reckon there's money to be had if you decide to make a few of them. What about cutting the shaft a bit then welding a lump inside so it won't drop anymore.

I have 2 rooted shocs here you could grab bits out of if you wish.

[NordieBoy]

You're onto something there Michael. i reckon there's money to be had if you decide to make a few of them. What about cutting the shaft a bit then welding a lump inside so it won't drop anymore.

I have 2 rooted shocs here you could grab bits out of if you wish.

You just put a small spacer on the shaft below the piston.
The Nordie had a 5mm one which, when removed, raised the back end 25mm.

[BMWST?]

You just put a small spacer on the shaft below the piston.
The Nordie had a 5mm one which, when removed, raised the back end 25mm.

i have a completley (or nearly completely) oilless rear shock with std spring here too.

[_Shrek_]

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Pampera]

Motobins order arrived after a week delayed by Customs, gearbox was rebuilt and I started installing it on Friday night. Driveline was completely reinstalled Saturday afternoon but with the bike on the centrestand turning the rear wheel revealed the gut wrenching sound of something in the driveline graunching and fouling every few cm of turning. Any load on the swing arm upwards - even just upwards force exerted by hand - and the wheel turned freely. Talk about frustrated, angry and demoralised. This was meant to be going back to dependable basics after 4 years of the electrical disaster that is a modern EFI BMW.

To cut a long story short, eventual result was dismantling again (this time including the final drive end of the assembly as well) to reveal the driveshaft attach nuts were fouling the front lower lip of the driveshaft tube (swingarm tube). Checking everything and careful reassembly delivered the same result. I could not see anything I had done wrong. Had a visit from Mike D tonight and he confirmed the same.

All was as expected. The only cause for the symptoms could be that the shock is a touch too long (or the Paralever arm a touch too short). Causes I discounted in favour of a mistake by me during reassembly. The Paralever was not removed from the bike and unlikely to be different. However after checking everything Mike noted that the damper had evidence of slight damage and that entry had been made into it (rebuild of sealed damper). Most significantly, with no preload the spring was loose enough to turn, suggesting the stops had settled or been damaged. The cause can only be the shock is mm too long, dropping the end of the shaft down slightly below its normal full extension (Paralever tips final drive down at its front multiplying the effect) and bringing the gearbox - shaft flange nuts into contact with the inside lower front of the swing arm tube.


Mike is lending me a standard shock to check this, the factory manual does not specify eye-eye length for the damper/spring assembly.

Helps my morale knowing it was not me, but talk about discouraging.


Anyway, this suggests that a damper/spring a touch longer than standard could be very dangerous in view of the obviously tiny standard clearances inside the shaft tube on full extension. Watch it.
Michael

Thought I had best post a follow up.
The OEM damper Mike loaned me was 8 mm shorter than the OEM unit removed from the bike. Fitted up with the bike reassembled the fouling above was removed.
Thanks to those who offered to loan me damper-spring units.
Reassembly was tackled in a very negative frame of mind. Not helped by third time trying to get the ill fitting bellow back on the shaft tube front, forgetting to put the fuel line under the air box before securing everything (not the first time I have done this) and pinging some strands when trying to reroute the right throttle cable (not misrouted by me) without stripping down my carefully balanced cable connections or disconnecting a worrying number of electrical thingees (technical term).
New cables ordered.
Motobins driveshaft bolts are actually fractionally smaller than the OEM examples so an even greater mystery - how on earth did the bike work before?
Be very careful out there - there is almost no safe clearance available in the event you use a non standard damper/spring.


Bike ran very well out to Martinborough and back on Saturday (160 km) aside from horn (relay ordered also) but it is going to take a while (without any issues) before I start feeling at all positive about this machine. Viva la my red Vespa!

Regards,
Michael

[Padmei]

I felt the same about venturing out withh Schmidt, now I feel more confident.
Give it time & your investment in time will pay off.

[Kokopelli]

I am going to sell my R80G/S soon. I thought I'd let people know soon enough.

I've cleaned it up, but it's by no means restored. Still needs work. Should be a good basis for an Airhead special.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/DSC03761.jpg

[Eddieb]

I am going to sell my R80G/S soon. I thought I'd let people know soon enough.

I've cleaned it up, but it's by no means restored. Still needs work. Should be a good basis for an Airhead special.

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I want, unfortunately I've already got 3 projects, 2 bikes and a house.

[Kokopelli]

I want, unfortunately I've already got 3 projects, 2 bikes and a house.

That's my problem, too.

[Box'a'bits]

So would you throw in the original tank to sweeten the deal? <_<

[Kokopelli]

So would you throw in the original tank to sweeten the deal? <_<

No.....:blink:

[Kokopelli]

I've just reinstalled the carbs. Hooked up the battery, adjusted to the basic settings and pushed the starter. Turned over strongly, but did not fire. Then I thought, perhaps if I open the fuel tap first, that might make a difference. Voila, started straight away. Fiddled with the idle a little bit, than took it for a quick spin down the road. I pulls and shifts better than Basil, the clutch is way easier to use, but it stops even worse. Perhaps new pads will make a difference. All I need to do now is to cable tie all the wires back in place. Then I need to make sure the speedo runs true, before crimping the lid.

The bike has:
Powder coated (subframe, starter cover, pack rack, handle bars and battery box)
Stainless steel Staintune system
Good battery
New seat cover
The tank is near new, but I've managed to put a small dent in at the 42nd, you have to look closely. Something must have happened.
New Wilbers shock
Reconditioned Carbs (needle, jet, o-rings, diaphragms, and gasket)
New trip meter reset button (very expensive)
New air filter, oil filter, plugs and oils (need to change the oil yet)
Stuff I've forgotten I did

The bike needs:
The wiring is not pretty, probably will need a new loom
The front brake is poor
The steering head bearings are too tight, at least compared to Basil's
The frame could be powder coated
I could imagine that the starter motor might need cleaning.
The brake lever has a nice curve in it.
The rear fender has seen better days

What I would do if I kept it.

Put a new front end on it. That would take care of the head bearing, and the brakes as well.
Replace the loom once I found a good second hand one.

Ride it until I could afford to turn it into something special.

Another few weeks and it will turn up on Trade me


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/DSC03761.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/DSC03760.jpg

[Padmei]

You left out the most important detail...

[NordieBoy]

You left out the most important detail...

Yeah, what oil is it using?

[Kokopelli]

Yeah, what oil is it using?

At the moment it's more a case of losing it. I've put new valve cover gaskets on but both sides drip a little. I'll have to check if the covers are warped.

[Kokopelli]

You left out the most important detail...

I'll put up an auction and that should sort out that detail. G/S's don't come up for sale that often, but if it's too far off what I am hoping to get, I'll keep it. It won't go bad in my garage.

[Padmei]

. It won't go bad in my garage.

I've heard if you squeeze lemon juice over them they don't go brown.

[Kokopelli]

I've heard if you squeeze lemon juice over them they don't go brown.

Cool, I'll try that tomorrow. Hang on, I am off to Mahia tomorrow, maybe Monday then.

[Box'a'bits]

I've heard if you squeeze lemon juice over them they don't go brown.
The previous owner of EddieB's Africa Corp bike obviously hadnt heard that...:rolleyes:

[Kokopelli]

So would you throw in the original tank to sweeten the deal? <_<


The bike will now be sold as an R80G/S PD. This means with the PD tank. It is far from mint, but I believe it's a factory PD and not one that has been converted later. Breaking it up would be a shame and I've come to realize that I want to concentrate on my R80GS Basic. It does everything I want it to do, so the G/S is going, unless I win the lotto in the near future. I have a figure in mind, but I am open to offers. I am not desperate to sell it as it is not going to go bad in my garage. Oh, the tank will definitely not be sold separately.

Here it is with the PD tank.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/DSC03862.jpg

[Padmei]

That looks good koko. Best of luck with the sale.

[Kokopelli]

That looks good koko. Best of luck with the sale.

Thanks, but I've got to say that the picture makes it look better than it is.

[Padmei]

Thanks, but I've got to say that the picture makes it look better than it is.

That's what I told my wife after she saw my online dating picture.

[Eddieb]

Cool GS front end transplant thread on advrider

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726304

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/plunger-ears/Road%20Zombie/P1040058.jpg

[Padmei]

That's my kind of welding :)

[Kickaha]

That's my kind of welding :)

Done by a blind left handed monkey?

He needs some more lessons in welding but an interesting build

[Padmei]

Done by a blind left handed monkey?

He needs some more lessons in welding but an interesting build

The correct way of welding is to have as many lumps as possible. The bigger the lump the stronger the join will be.

[GSers]

Done by a blind left handed monkey?

He needs some more lessons in welding but an interesting build

Don't let Larryboy hear you say that he will give you an ear full ( you should read some ofhis other threads )

But an interesting build.

GSers

[Kickaha]

Don't let Larryboy hear you say that he will give you an ear full ( you should read some ofhis other threads )

So long as he is half the world away I'm not scared of him :laugh:

[Kokopelli]

Sounds nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW86OAYGPM&feature=related

[Padmei]

Cheapish project bike

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-474277280.htm

[BMWST?]

what is the procedure for re installing the front wheel in the r100 gs?.Axle in,tighten the hex head bolt on the end of the axle,tighten pinch nuts then tighten the hex head bolt up fully?Or do you tighten the end bolt fully then do up the pinch nuts?

[Box'a'bits]

Ummm....yes :confused:

[Padmei]

Axle in
tighten pinch bolt axle side
big nut on
Tigthen axle nut
tighten pinchbolt nut side

Rinse & repeat

I know about this stuff - I collect these things

[igor]

sounds ok to me. I think

hey paddy. I ear ya bought another scooter. By the looks of it should be called 'dog schmidt'

[BMWST?]

Axle in
tighten pinch bolt axle side
big nut on
Tigthen axle nut
tighten pinchbolt nut side

Rinse & repeat

I know about this stuff - I collect these things
Thanks that does make sense got a torque value for the axle nut?

[Padmei]

sounds ok to me. I think

hey paddy. I ear ya bought another scooter. By the looks of it should be called 'dog schmidt'

Watch it or it'll piss on your leg:angry: You'll all be sorry when it wins the best cafe racer award at the annual Atawhai community church bike show.


Thanks that does make sense got a torque value for the axle nut?
I would go for 50 blumenthols.

[NordieBoy]

I would go for 50 blumenthols.
Surely 48 at the most on a Monday. Unless you're wearing a yellow hat of course.

[Ian.S]

From the Rider's Handbook for GS's Axle Stud 33Nm and Axle clamp bolts 15Nm.

Hope that helps, there is probably a conversion from Nm to blumenthols somewhere though:laugh:.

Cheers

Ian

[Woodman]

Multiply NM by 3.142 to convert to blumenthols.

Padmei?...are you gonna make berlina road legal or a dedicated trackday bike/race bike.

You an voltaire have lit a fuse under my benelli resto project. Spent hours last night on ebay etc looking for parts. Surprisingly quite a lot, even new parts. Thinking not road legal at this stage, riding oppoertunitys not that great but could always put it on the mantlepiece.

This too shall pass.

[NordieBoy]

You'll all be sorry when it wins the best cafe racer award at the annual Atawhai community church bike show.
Yeah, but you never tell us when it's on and your kids are the only judges...

[Padmei]

Multiply NM by 3.142 to convert to blumenthols.

Padmei?...are you gonna make berlina road legal or a dedicated trackday bike/race bike.

You an voltaire have lit a fuse under my benelli resto project. Spent hours last night on ebay etc looking for parts. Surprisingly quite a lot, even new parts. Thinking not road legal at this stage, riding oppoertunitys not that great but could always put it on the mantlepiece.

This too shall pass.

I was hoping you would get going on that baby. Bill in at city mcs has one. it is parked in there occasionally. I really like the look of that old purple Benelli Tornado 650 around here.
Whatever you do don't google reliability or ease of working on Benellis - I did & it saddened me:cold:

[Taz]

. I really like the look of that old purple Benelli Tornado 650 around here.
Whatever you do don't google reliability or ease of working on Benellis - I did & it saddened me:cold:

I test rode one from a dealer in the 90's. It didn't even make it around the block without bending a valve. Needless to say I didn't buy it. I bought a Guzzi 650 Lario instead and that dropped a valve on the western springs motorway on ramp :facepalm:

[Woodman]

I was hoping you would get going on that baby. Bill in at city mcs has one. it is parked in there occasionally. I really like the look of that old purple Benelli Tornado 650 around here.
Whatever you do don't google reliability or ease of working on Benellis - I did & it saddened me:cold:

na my ones is very simple, electrics and gauges and some suspension shared with Ducatis etc it seems. Can even buy brand new race motors starting for about 10,000 euros and a lot of other goodies, but my klr instincts kick in, wellthat and Mrs Woodman just wouldn't understand.

Apologies for going off topic but a "My benelli build" thread would be very slow going, in fact it would have started before there was internet.

[dino3310]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/y06wrIJy5jw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> ..........................

[Box'a'bits]

After 6 months in the shed I finally got to the stage where it could be removed from the jig. Threw some wheels at it to see if I should carry on or scrap it what do you think. I will report back again in 6 months no hurry on this one.
GSers[
Okay more than six months now, how are you gettng on... ;)

[Padmei]

Okay more than six months now, how are you gettng on... ;)

Don't rush him - you know what these artists get like under pressure:msn-wink:

[Padmei]

Michael how are you getting on with yours? gearbox fixed?

[Pampera]

Michael how are you getting on with yours? gearbox fixed?

Mobile and tested on 12th April. New cables and assorted relays (horn and starter are now reliable) installed later in the month, carbs re-balanced with idle pushed back up to 1000 rpm or so, and WOF refreshed (WOF and Rego expired at end of April). Engine is running very (very) smoothly. Gearbox smoothness is not up to the standard I would prefer but not awful. They do vary quite a bit, even new. However, have not been riding, motivation is in hibirnation.

I am in the process of ordering an Ohlins damper/spring unit so I can return Mike D's loaned unit. I have a Monolever Ohlins but is a completely different unit and is not a suitable start as a rebuild for a Paralever. Correct (OEM) length is a primary factor in the set up specification!

Always liked (twin shock) R65's. Look nice, compact and cute. I am surprised I have never owned one. I do think your one might be a little far gone though! Good luck.

Regards,

Michael

[GSers]

Okay more than six months now, how are you gettng on... ;)

Just for you Steve I was going to wait a little bit longer until the rear subframe is finished, I made the seat base fit the last couple of weekends. This weekend its the top rails for the seat to fit on / top subframe hopefully these should all be mounted to the main frame this weekend, so things are slowly progressing.
GSers
:drool::drool:
264392

[Box'a'bits]

Mate that thing is going to be a beast. Looking good. :2thumbsup

[GSers]

Don't rush him - you know what these artists get like under pressure:msn-wink:

Thanks Padmei, but I wouldn't call myself an artist but here you go I let you decide if it looks lke a work of art.:lol::killingme
GSers
264450
Not the best photo but.

[Kokopelli]

Thanks Padmei, but I wouldn't call myself an artist but here you go I let you decide if it looks lke a work of art.:lol::killingme
GSers

Not the best photo but.

I guess what it looks like is secondary to the way it will perform. However, it does look like it's well made. I appreciate the fact that it doesn't always have to be an airhead that receives a full makeover. The R259 engine is an excellent engine. Will you get the weight down to around the 200kg mark?

[Woodman]

Thanks Padmei, but I wouldn't call myself an artist but here you go I let you decide if it looks lke a work of art.:lol::killingme
GSers

Not the best photo but.

Wow..... Thats gonna be good, great work.

[NordieBoy]

Thanks Padmei, but I wouldn't call myself an artist but here you go I let you decide if it looks lke a work of art.:lol::killingme
GSers
Not the best photo but.

You going for BMW or WR stickers?

Or even BMWR?

[Kokopelli]

I got a warning for quoting with an embedded photo. :rolleyes:

No problem, I know how to fix this.....

[Team Buffoon]

Well 'Von Trigger' the 83 G/S has lived in the shed for a few months now and we have had some good rides together, explored some gravel but not any serious off road stuff. Von T has conversed with the Ducatis in the shed and I hope impressed them enough with tales of long journeys and longevity that they will behave themselves when they finally see the light of day. I like the ride and have enjoyed myself playing with a BM. However....I already have in the shed the aforementioned Ducatis all of which require work, money and time, Von T although being a nice tidy example does require TLC and due to being away with work a lot I do need something in the shed I can ride and then ignore without feeling guilty. The good old DR will fulfill this role and eventually one of the Dukes will (fingers crossed) provide a reliable two up ride. So Von Trigger is up for Sale. 1983 G/S, Warrant and Rego etc. Recently serviced. Original cases, racks, rear mudguard etc included. Anyone interested pse PM me and I will forward more details. Need to be quick because if I spend too much time looking at and riding the old boy I will change my mind!

[Eddieb]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/exhaust/auction-487779328.htm

BMW Exhaust Spanner

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/83/221507783_full.jpg

[Aslan]

Conscious this is not strictly an ADV bike - they're capable on gravel though - Looks to be in very good condition cosmetically - tempting - yet I'll be sticking with my R1150GS which has a nice patina of use :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-488180812.htm

[Padmei]

Cheap fork upgrade anyone? anyone???

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/frames/auction-491163934.htm

choccy fish expected as agents commision

[Padmei]

Wow. i've never been into the oilhead bikes till I saw this site.

Wow!
http://www.unitgarage.com/

[Eddieb]

Wow. i've never been into the oilhead bikes till I saw this site.

Wow!
http://www.unitgarage.com/

Me likey! :niceone:

[Pampera]

The final solution to the 8 mm too long R80GS OEM spring/damper unit.

Michael

[Padmei]

Mmmmmm yummy yummy

[Bams]

I just brought a 2008 GS and have been crawling through the internet to see how hard it is to service the brake system myself. Does anybody here do this job themselves .
I,m thinking of getting the local BMW dealer to do the my first major service which is due just to get it checked out while under the 3 month warranty and to have it updated/ Mapped which seem worth it.
and from there hopefully I can do it myself , am I kidding myself?????
I can find lots of info on the internet on the models up to 2007 GS they seem easy enough to do but nothing on the 2008 on which correct me if I,m wrong they have a different ABS unit? as there seems alot more going on on this model.
Any help would be appreicated.
Another question do GS have a slow start feel my one seem like it has a low battery but it always starts the bike shop I brought it from said this is how they start?????? The bikes only done 15000 kms so it has,n t done alot of work but this could be a bad thing for the battery .

[Padmei]

Does anyone here have a new spare motobins cranksprocket & nose bearing sitting on their shelf they want to lend me till mine comes from motobins in a few weeks?

[Eddieb]

Are these GS or G/S jets? they're 135's.

From memory they came out of my first G/S which had holes drilled in the top of the airbox, trumpets removed from inside the airbox and larger than stock jets when I got it, but then my memory isn't what it used to be

Anyone want them if they are?

269020

[Padmei]

Are these GS or G/S jets? they're 135's.

From memory they came out of my first G/S which had holes drilled in the top of the airbox, trumpets removed from inside the airbox and larger than stock jets when I got it, but then my memory isn't what it used to be

Anyone want them if they are?

269020

They are GS ones. I think I have some spares of them so someone in wellywood can get in there.

Do you miss your PD Eddie?

[Eddieb]

Do you miss your PD Eddie?

I do in some ways but I'm also loving the DR, especially now that I've opened it up a bit. The DR is a whole lot of fun so I wouldn't sell the DR for one.

[DCee]

Hi guys, can anyone answer a question about the GS Paraleaver set ups. I've only had monoleaver models before, which are straightforward, but I understand that there can be an issue with the Paraleaver universals seizing, as they are only greased, not in oil ? How do you check if it's on it's way out, and is there a mod I can do on the '92 100GS I just picked up. I've heard something about installing a grease nipple. Cheers.

[BEAMER89]

Hi guys, can anyone answer a question about the GS Paraleaver set ups. I've only had monoleaver models before, which are straightforward, but I understand that there can be an issue with the Paraleaver universals seizing, as they are only greased, not in oil ? How do you check if it's on it's way out, and is there a mod I can do on the '92 100GS I just picked up. I've heard something about installing a grease nipple. Cheers.

That not Darryl C is it, l just sold a R100GS to a Darryl C:whistle:

[Padmei]

Welcome DC.
Your bike will be alroght unless it was bought from a dodgy character called Graham in Chch.
I wouldn't get too worried about the bearings. i believe the only way you can tell is feeling for notchiness however boxabits or another local guru will be along to reasuure you. I think they are due for replacement every 30-40K?

If you look on the NZ forum on advrider you will find a bit of airhead madness as there are quite a few of us airheads modding & buggeringaround with our bikes.

[Padmei]

R90S in pretty nice shape

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-510359339.htm

[BMWST?]

R90S in pretty nice shape

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-510359339.htm


wonder why its 9875.43?

[Woodman]

wonder why its 9875.43?

Its in Golden Bay. Nuff said.

[DCee]

That not Darryl C is it, l just sold a R100GS to a Darryl C:whistle:

Yea, that's me. Geez Graham, someone reckons you're dodgy. Wish I knew that before I bought the bike ! Na, the bike's all good, just need to find time to ride it. I'm back in ChCh next week, so I'll catch up about the panniers, and you'll have an idea about the shaft. I think it's fine, just want to be 1 step ahead. A mate had one seize in the Aussie Outback, ruined his whole trip. Mind you, his PD had a sidecar attached with a couple hundred kg's of gear on board !

[Kickaha]

I'm back in ChCh next week
I better let everyone know so we can queue up outside the workshop with our welding

[Padmei]

someone reckons you're dodgy. !

Well have you seen how close together his eyes are?<_<

[BEAMER89]

I'm back in ChCh next week, so I'll catch up about the panniers, and you'll have an idea about the shaft. I think it's fine, just want to be 1 step ahead

That cool Darryl, catch up then bud:yes:

[BMWST?]

where would one procure a new lh (or a new pair) of hand guards.Bike rolled forward of the side stand.....i knew when i parked it it was dodgy....i almost got a picture of it

this was actually afterwards,it fell right in the middle of the gorse just behind

[DCee]

I better let everyone know so we can queue up outside the workshop with our welding

Shit mate, you tracked me down. I'm coming home for a break, not to work ! :sweatdrop

[Eddieb]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-512921456.htm

$4k ono

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/95/232548095_full.jpg

[Padmei]

That is one comfy looking seat.
I din't know about the bullet holes tho - could have been used by a kiwifruit running cartel.:ar15:

[pete-blen]

could have been used by a kiwifruit running cartel.:ar15:

Air heads?... And thought it refured to the bikes...:bleh:

[Gremlin]

I think I'll leave this here... whoever this poor bugger was, he strikes a cord with me (mainly coz I've had to get myself out of the shit my stupidity put me into, plenty of times)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ttLGw4JVtzg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Eddieb]

I think I'll leave this here... whoever this poor bugger was, he strikes a cord with me (mainly coz I've had to get myself out of the shit my stupidity put me into, plenty of times)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ttLGw4JVtzg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Call me a grumpy old fecker but... (cue Nordie any minute)

His tyres are completely inappropriate for the riding he's doing and I'm surprised he doesn't put his back out using that technique to pick it up.

[NordieBoy]

Call me a grumpy old fecker but... (cue Nordie any minute)

His tyres are completely inappropriate for the riding he's doing and I'm surprised he doesn't put his back out using that technique to pick it up.

But you're not old.

Better tyres or a lighter bike would have been easier...
But he's having a proper adventure :D

[Box'a'bits]

Anyone got $4 or $5k for a Basic? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-515384293.htm) Kapiti based

[Eddieb]

Anyone got $4 or $5k for a Basic? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-515384293.htm) Kapiti based

That is a good price.

[Kokopelli]

That is a good price.

I wouldn't sell mine for $5000, for $6000 maybe. But then again, mine had a few things done to it since I got it and that's not counting the hh-racetech cartridges that are about to go in. I am surprised nobody has clicked the buy-now yet. It's one of 3004 made, last time I checked they weren't making any more.

[Padmei]

Any of you old hands at offroad riding ever used your airhead GS's for knarly fast stuff back in te day? Not slowly cautious style adv riding but XR dirt bike kinda stuff? How did you get on - root your bikes?

[Kokopelli]

Any of you old hands at offroad riding ever used your airhead GS's for knarly fast stuff back in te day? Not slowly cautious style adv riding but XR dirt bike kinda stuff? How did you get on - root your bikes?

Well, I am not an old hand and this is not really knarly off road stuff. But the R80 went around this track quite well. It's mainly firm sand with some softer sections around the corners. I went around a few times and managed to stay ahead of another rider on a dirt bike. I talked to him later and he has been winning quite a few races in his age group. I forgot to ask which primary school he went to, but he said he was eight.

http://youtu.be/WiLY9ETLl5s

[Richard]

Hi
What sort of price would I be looking for to get my hands on a BMW R90S...in bits ?
Ballpark number ?
Richard

[igormortis]

Anyone got a dead Valeo starter they wanna get rid of? PM me!

[Eddieb]

Hi
What sort of price would I be looking for to get my hands on a BMW R90S...in bits ?
Ballpark number ?
Richard

Given that R90S's don't come up for sale that often, and even less so in bits there's no real price indicators. So that means, whatever the seller wants for it, or the buyer is willing to pay.

[Phreaky Phil]

Hi guys, while we were away I saw a post on a thread, maybe ADV rider, showing a shortened torque arm on an Airhead GS.
I can't find it:(
Does anyone know where it is. ?

Cheers

[Padmei]

Hi guys, while we were away I saw a post on a thread, maybe ADV rider, showing a shortened torque arm on an Airhead GS.
I can't find it:(
Does anyone know where it is. ?

Cheers

if it's just one with a pic of it & no info I recall seeing one this past week. I believe it was from a link to a german or dutch site. Sorry I can't be of more help

[Box'a'bits]

Hi guys, while we were away I saw a post on a thread, maybe ADV rider, showing a shortened torque arm on an Airhead GS. I can't find it:( Does anyone know where it is. ? Cheers
I talked to Redboots about it, as an off topic excursion in one of the Unholy threads . Here's the page for the thread (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676340&highlight=redboots&page=43) on that.

Prutser talked about it for one of his old Paralevers (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753159&highlight=prutser&page=4). He also looked at an 18" rim for the Paralever (small increments to gain ride height). Finally, the other thing I thought you might find interesting in that thread was the work he did on DRZ forks.

Re the shortened torque arms, it's an area I'd like to explore

If you do decide to go down this track please let me know.

[Phreaky Phil]

Thanks for that, i really like the look of that bike. Almost a favourite:niceone:
I might do some investigating into the angles of the rear drive and what happens to things with a shorter arm.
The shock would have to be lengthened as well.
I wonder what the rear guard he has is off ?

[GSers]

Same angels as they have on the R900RR the rear final drive and the paralever are almost in a straight line.
I moved the front mount about 15mm forward on my build saved making a custom bottom arm.
The final drive moves down as the swingarm moves up.
Watch for U-joint binding nothing a dremel wont fix.

GSers

[Box'a'bits]

The shock would have to be lengthened as well.
I don't think that is necessary

I wonder what the rear guard he has is off ?
That's off a KTM. Same (taillight etc) as what I used to have on the 640a. The tail light on that was a bit marginal. Taz put an led strip under the tail to brighten things up.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c6G1GmJq5Mk/UIH6gMWqz0I/AAAAAAAAMgo/yg3PotTk664/s800/%24(KGrHqVHJB8E63(O7nrWBO0p5pTYZQ~~60_12.jpg

[Phreaky Phil]

I don't think that is necessary
Are you sure about that, surely if you shorten the torque arm the shock would have to be longer as the final drive is pivoting around the paralever. ?
in the attached pic you can see that it has had the shock postion changed, i figured because of the shortened arm.
and it would make the shock be on not as steeper angle.
I guess i'll find out when I whip the shock out and start playing.

[Box'a'bits]

No I'm not sure about the shock length. I was basing this on the conversation (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19340565&postcount=636) with Redboots. Maybe a good time to question him again now he has the thing up & running. I don't think he elevated it too much - he could still use the centrestand, albeit that the wheels weren't off the ground.

A further (separate) mod seems to be to relocate the shock mount on the frame, in order to gain height from the shock sitting more vertically. Your photo show this. My concern there would be the additional stress this introduces further away from the main frame. I'm guessing with is the reason for the brace dropping down off the shock mount.

I've sent him a PM over on the other forum, & CC'd you into that.

[Phreaky Phil]

Is the white and blue bike in you pics, Redboots bike ? Do yu have any other info on that bike.
It looks like it has an 18inch rear wheel.
How do you find the handling/steering on your bike with the USD forks clamps, compared with the original clamps with the greater offset ?
Im not sure what way I would like to go if I do another mod on the GS, use the smaller offset clamps and do something with the tank to get some turning clearance or get some of the HPM guy clamps. Hmmm.?
I feel a project coming on ! !

[Kokopelli]

The driveshaft on this bike has quite a steep angle. My understanding was that they used a short shock on the R80GS Basic to make the assembly more durable. I guess if you want performance and you are prepared to repair or replace components, it doesn't really matter. The Basic always looks like it's squatting, I can't say I like it, but I am happy if it is more durable that way.

[Box'a'bits]

Is the white and blue bike in your pics Redboots bike? Do you have any other info on that bike.
It looks like it has an 18inch rear wheel.
No, Redboots bike is a R100GSPD Classic. Here's his blog page (http://www.shales.com/articles/). He's put WP 5060 forks on it, with a triple clamp from Boxer Toko (Matt Beekers).

The blue bike is a 'random' I liked from the 2v GS forum (de). There are more pictures of the bike in my Picasa album here (https://picasaweb.google.com/111498450837388124928/BMWPhotosSundry). Note your bike takes pride of place on the album cover.


How do you find the handling/steering on your bike with the USD forks clamps, compared with the original clamps with the greater offset ?
Very good. It stablises the bike. EddieB said it feels much more planted. Certainly there is a noticeable difference offroad & in gravel. Given the tank, I don't appear to have lost steering lock. I think the differences in feel are attributed the combination of the whole, rather than individual bits - ie to the skinnier rim size, reduced offset, stronger forks, & a whole lot less weight. The downside has been the brakes, & the time spent setting up. Also that fact that it has worn through seals & bushes rather fast (albeit I made a mistake using All Balls parts).


Not sure what way I would like to go if I do another mod on the GS, use the smaller offset clamps and do something with the tank to get some turning clearance or get some of the HPM guy clamps. Hmmm.? I feel a project coming on ! !
Migsel modified his tank. Here's the posts 1 (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3213086&postcount=44) & 2 (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3213149&postcount=49)

If I was to do it again, & didn't have my eye on taller suspension, I might look at the Racetech (de) inserts that Kokopelli got in. Then you have a stealth look, & don't have to worry about the ancilliaries. But I see Koko & a lot of the others that did that purchase don't yet seem to have these things up & running, so....

I guess it depends on what you want to use the bike for. Weight & ground clearance are certainly issues.

[Box'a'bits]

The driveshaft on this bike has quite a steep angle. My understanding was that they used a short shock on the R80GS Basic to make the assembly more durable. I guess if you want performance and you are prepared to repair or replace components, it doesn't really matter. The Basic always looks like it's squatting, I can't say I like it, but I am happy if it is more durable that way.
I think the answer to that is maybe to look at aftermarket driveshafts with the greasable (& replaceable) universal joints.

Also, remember when the bike is being ridden, there will be some suspension sag.

Finally, I think the taller bike maybe end up with braced frames etc & maybe get ridden harder, & therefore have greater maintenance cost expectations.

[Subike]

Dont know much about these bikes, but got a pic of one that ticked a few box's for me ( pun)
Seeing as the last few posts have been about off rod variants, I thought this was relevant

[Kokopelli]

Dont know much about these bikes, but got a pic of one that ticked a few box's for me ( pun)
Seeing as the last few posts have been about off rod variants, I thought this was relevant

That's a well known bike. Probably the most extreme airhead around. Check out the video on utube.

[Box'a'bits]

That's Manuel's from SWT Sports. Its changed again this year - he's cut, realigned, & rewelded the bottom frame tubes to allow a more linear engine / drive shaft.

Here's some frame & other pictures, & a link across to his 2v - GS thread (http://www.gs-forum.eu/2-ventiler-97/noch-ein-weiterer-umbau-thread-manuel-28456/index36.html#post1069728)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1zj1SoodUys/UIOnciG-H7I/AAAAAAAAMhc/mIQPb-l6Vn4/s800/swt sports frame 1.jpg

Whilst I am sure the utility of the bike has been getting better for the twin cylinder enduro racing he does, the aesthetics have started going down hill..:laugh:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I0pFbsA5BwQ/UIOo41mKbSI/AAAAAAAAMh0/ldclXyM5oQI/s800/Fertig2.jpg

[Subike]

That's a well known bike. Probably the most extreme airhead around. Check out the video on utube.

Hey thanks for that, checked out the vid, and awesome is all I can say.

[Phreaky Phil]

No, Redboots bike is a R100GSPD Classic. Here's his blog page (http://www.shales.com/articles/). He's put WP 5060 forks on it, with a triple clamp from Boxer Toko (Matt Beekers).

The blue bike is a 'random' I liked from the 2v GS forum (de). There are more pictures of the bike in my Picasa album here (https://picasaweb.google.com/111498450837388124928/BMWPhotosSundry). Note your bike takes pride of place on the album cover.


Highly honored that our Beemers at the top of your page. :bleh: or was it just the first one on there :laugh:
Tricky thing deciding what to do with the Beemer. Its hardly been ridden since I got the DR. The DR is better off road than the DR and ok on the road. The Beemer is a bit smoother on road being a twin and shaft drive. Ive had the Beemer so long that it feels like i want to do something dramatic to it to give "it a new lease" of life, or maybe just sell it ?

[Box'a'bits]

Highly honored that our Beemers at the top of your page. :bleh: or was it just the first one on there :laugh:

Tricky thing deciding what to do with the Beemer. Its hardly been ridden since I got the DR. The DR is better off road than the GS and ok on the road. The Beemer is a bit smoother on road being a twin and shaft drive. I've had the Beemer so long that it feels like I want to do something dramatic to it to give "it a new lease" of life, or maybe just sell it?
The DR will be dead & buried long before the GS.

I do understand what you are saying though.

[Phreaky Phil]

The DR will be dead & buried long before the GS.

I do understand what you are saying though.
I agree, hence the thoughts on a radical mod to get it to do what I would like to do on it, without spending an absolute fortune. Most of our NZ riding is 60% tar 35% gravel and 5% offroad, its eay to get a bike to do the first two well but not so easy to do all three well. Then throw on a pillion to complicate things. I had a hankering to try a 950 Super Enduro, but maybe to much motor.

[Padmei]

I can agree with those points Phil. These days you don't have to go far to find any modern bike that will outdo the GS in most areas except simplicity.
They are a great platform to do conversions & modifications tho as you know.

[dino3310]

. Ive had the Beemer so long that it feels like i want to do something dramatic to it to give "it a new lease" of life, or maybe just sell it ?

there would be a few on here who would be wanting for the second option

me included:laugh:

[Phreaky Phil]

I can agree with those points Phil. These days you don't have to go far to find any modern bike that will outdo the GS in most areas except simplicity.
They are a great platform to do conversions & modifications tho as you know.
Yea, I look at that blue and white one and see an Airhead Super Enduro. !
I couldn't believe how much Andrew had to undo on his KTM 990 to access the air filter (on the TAT)
Not simple:no:

[Eddieb]

I couldn't believe how much Andrew had to undo on his KTM 990 to access the air filter (on the TAT)
Not simple:no:

I got mine down to 10 minutes on the 950. Those big KTM's are pretty top heavy in the rougher stuff and very tall.

[_Shrek_]

Those big KTM's are pretty top heavy in the rougher stuff and very tall.

especially when you a bit short in the leg :facepalm: took a mates 990 for a spin & stopped at lights in town put foot down only to find
there was nothing there.....

[Phreaky Phil]

there would be a few on here who would be wanting for the second option

me included:laugh:

Come talk to me then, ya just never know what ya might go home with !

[Crim]

BMW Motorrad seeks ABRs for the ultimate round-the-world test ride (From UK - might be option here?)
The new R 1200 GS
BMW Motorrad is offering ABRs the chance to take the all-new 2013 R 1200 GS on a round-the-world, all expenses paid, overland expedition. Five riders will be selected by a panel of experts to ride a leg through one of five continents on the “One World. One R 1200 GS” tour.
“The all-new R 1200 GS has set the bar higher than ever for adventure sports motorcycles. We believe the R 1200 GS can tackle just about anything the world can throw at it,” said Tony Jakeman, marketing manager for BMW Motorrad UK. “The new GS will be put through its paces on some of the toughest terrain in the world, and give five riders the adventure of a lifetime.”
To earn a place on the expedition, ABRs are invited to tell BMW Motorrad why they would make the perfect ambassador for the new bike. A jury of international VIPs and motorcycle adventurers will select the five riders from around the world, based on their motorcycling experience, ambitions, attitude and, above all, their passion for two-wheeled adventure. The five appointed ambassadors will be among the first people to ride the highly-anticipated next generation GS ahead of its international launch in March 2013.
The tour will travel through New Zealand, Asia, South Africa, America and Europe between December and March 2013, the competition is open to all riders over 21 years old. For your chance to win all you need to do is visit www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk and fill in the form- make sure you try to catch the attention and imagination of the judges. Good luck!

[Winston001]

Please excuse me for interrupting but it occurred to me that I should at least let you guys know that my bike is for sale. Sad, a shame, regrets I've had a few..but someone else should cherish and enjoy this motorcycle.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/154390-Classic-original-BMW-R80-RT-Police?p=1130430855#post1130430855

[Aslan]

Enjoy the back roads of our beautiful country on this much loved and faithful 'leven fiddy.

I'll be sad to see her go but have upgraded to an R1200GS - weighs less - in recognition of my advancing years!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-534653182.htm

[BMWST?]

Enjoy the back roads of our beautiful country on this much loved and faithful 'leven fiddy.

I'll be sad to see her go but have upgraded to an R1200GS - weighs less - in recognition of my advancing years!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-534653182.htm


patina of use :yes: seriously considering a 1200 gs myself

[Padmei]

looks nice aslan. My local bike shop - city m/cs is now the BMW agent & have a range of new BMWs. Far out they're a bit more comfortable looking than ol Schmidt :laugh:
That looks to be a cheap price for a nice bike - good luck with the sale.

[BMWST?]

looks nice aslan. My local bike shop - city m/cs is now the BMW agent & have a range of new BMWs. Far out they're a bit more comfortable looking than ol Schmidt :laugh:
That looks to be a cheap price for a nice bike - good luck with the sale.

i rode a gs adventure a couple of weeks ago,the ol boxer is no less comfy and the adventure felt H U G E but i have had enough of the electrical issues i been having.Its been very good lately though maybe i have finally got it.I dont fully trust it tho and it s hard to get that outa my head

[Aslan]

looks nice aslan. My local bike shop - city m/cs is now the BMW agent & have a range of new BMWs. Far out they're a bit more comfortable looking than ol Schmidt :laugh:
That looks to be a cheap price for a nice bike - good luck with the sale.

thanks Padmei - price reflects my assessment of what 'the market will bear' - IMO the 1150 is hugely underated - people will pay more than I'm asking for mine for a similar year F650 (single) - I assume because they appear less imtimidating mass wise.

Enjoy the Dusty Butt - hope Schmidt goes well for you - I decided to put the dosh I'd spend travelling to the Dusty into my new bike

[Aslan]

patina of use :yes: seriously considering a 1200 gs myself

Cheers BMWST? - I can't tempt you with a well sorted 1150GS for a fraction of the price of a 1200 then? :)

[Kokopelli]

thanks Padmei - price reflects my assessment of what 'the market will bear' - IMO the 1150 is hugely underated - people will pay more than I'm asking for mine for a similar year F650 (single) - I assume because they appear less imtimidating mass wise.

Enjoy the Dusty Butt - hope Schmidt goes well for you - I decided to put the dosh I'd spend travelling to the Dusty into my new bike

Hi Aslan,

congratulations on the new bike, it looks great. I am too attached to my 1150 and to my wallet, too make a change :-). Especially, since it's finally run in.

[Aslan]

Hi Aslan,

congratulations on the new bike, it looks great. I am too attached to my 1150 and to my wallet, too make a change :-). Especially, since it's finally run in.

Cheers Kokopelli - I can see you're doing the DB1k are you planning on doing the Waiouru Adventure ride at the end of January?

[Kokopelli]

Cheers Kokopelli - I can see you're doing the DB1k are you planning on doing the Waiouru Adventure ride at the end of January?

Yes, Gerda and I have booked a spot. I am in the process of getting the R80GS sorted out, now that I've sold the R80G/S. Will you do the ride?

[BMWST?]

Cheers BMWST? - I can't tempt you with a well sorted 1150GS for a fraction of the price of a 1200 then? :)

no thanks...if i am gonna get a" new" bike i want the newest i can get and i have never been partial to the 1150 s appearance

[Aslan]

no thanks...if i am gonna get a" new" bike i want the newest i can get and i have never been partial to the 1150 s appearance

Cheers BMWST? - good job we all have different tastes eh? :) A factor in the 11XXGS favour IMO is their relative simplicity compared to the Hexheads - much of maintenance is within the reach of owners with modest mechanical skill

[_Shrek_]

their relative simplicity compared to the Hexheads - much of maintenance is within the reach of owners with modest mechanical skill

:scratch: I knew there was some thing I liked about it, coz when I first saw the 1150 :sick: then one day woke up & took a look at it & :love: at 2nd sight :laugh:

[BMWST?]

Cheers BMWST? - good job we all have different tastes eh? :) A factor in the 11XXGS favour IMO is their relative simplicity compared to the Hexheads - much of maintenance is within the reach of owners with modest mechanical skill

For anything but the most basic stuff any bike of mine goes to mr Dobson anyway

[Aslan]

For anything but the most basic stuff any bike of mine goes to mr Dobson anyway

Certainly he's a good man - look forward to meeting you out there some day - cheers S

[Aslan]

thanks Padmei - price reflects my assessment of what 'the market will bear' - IMO the 1150 is hugely underated - people will pay more than I'm asking for mine for a similar year F650 (single) - I assume because they appear less imtimidating mass wise.



SOLD - sad to see her go she's been a faithful bike - gone to an enthusiastic young man from Awakairangi

[Padmei]

obviuosly priced to sell. good one aslan.

lets see some pics of the new frau

[Kokopelli]

obviuosly priced to sell. good one aslan.

lets see some pics of the new frau

Owned by a pensioner, never been anywhere, who could resist :-)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/South%20Island%202008/DSC05833.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/DSC05827.jpg

[igor]

Owned by a pensioner, never been anywhere, who could resist :-)

how about a pic of your northern hemisphere riding in the southern hemisphere Koko. Same track was it not

[Kokopelli]

how about a pic of your northern hemisphere riding in the southern hemisphere Koko. Same track was it not

that never happened...

[Box'a'bits]

Which is why the photo is all over the interweb? The first google image hit? R1150GS upside down

[GSers]

You mean this one
GSers

[Aslan]

Owned by a pensioner, never been anywhere, who could resist :-)


Good one Koko - that was a great ride BMW owner's register annual rally Alexandra January 2008 Old Man range - I did describe my 1150 as 'tidy' and with the patina of use

I've a feeling the subsequent photo of your 1150 upside down is a photo I took ;)

[Aslan]

obviuosly priced to sell. good one aslan.

lets see some pics of the new frau


Cheers Padders - will post some pics later ;)

[Kokopelli]

This photo has reminded me that my GS is actually black and not some washed out grey. So I've given it its spring wash. I was lucky, too, because the belly pan was only dangling by the rear to screws. The front ones are on the road somewhere. Bugger. Anyway, it's as clean as it's going to get. The photo is being kind. One day I'll have an ad that says, owned by pensioner from new, upgrading to a mobility scooter. I am sure BMW will make one, soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/R1150GS/DSC04052.jpg


The dirt behind the rev-counter lens is from the Old Man range. You used to be able to see a waterline, now it's just dust.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Berwyn/R1150GS/DSC04053.jpg

[Padmei]

What do you like about your 1150/1200s?

[Kokopelli]

So Gerda and I went for a ride out to Pahi (on the Kaipara) today. Had lunch in Maungaturoto. 3 guys pull up on dusty bikes, 2 of them on 990s. One of them looks at my bike and says, wow, that's in good nick, it obviously hasn't been on gravel. So that's what you get for cleaning your bike. Oh the humanity. So I stayed off gravel today, even though the bike usually is a bit like my old dog, r.i.p. every time he got a wash, he went and rolled in the nearest pile of crap. Not today.

The guy on the Kawasaki (or something like that) sports bike, was a bit surprised that the clean 1150 he had just passed, was still behind him, so he wound it up a bit. Yup, still there, hanging off is overrated. But hey, I need my license to get to work and I still had Gerda behind me, somewhere, so I gave up. But I know, it's so much harder in front :-).

Anyway, for what is now an essentially worthless bike, it's going all right. I like that.

[Aslan]

What do you like about your 1150/1200s?

Well Koko's post above speaks volumes

My subjective impressions are as follows - having pondered Padmei's incisive Q for a day or so

I first fell in love with the idea of owning a boxer twin in my youth (early in the 1960's) when a journo on the ODT (Dundein) had an R69S - had pin striped - earles forks etc - that's when infatuation the BMW marque was seeded in me - I don't really have a rational justification / explanation for what I like about the Oil Heads - for me they were simply an evolution of the bikes available from BMW

My first Beemer was a K75 in the 90's - capable but lacking soul IMO- this was followed by an R65 - Okay- surprisingly capable in gravel. This was followed by an '89 R100 Bumble Bee GS from New York - should never have sold that given the resurgenence of Air Heads as the preferred restoration machine.

From here I went to an R1100GS that had been totalled in a collision with a train (Yes and rebuilt be a certain BMW mechanic revered by many as a guru). This made way for an F650GS Dakar as I sought to build confidence as a gravel rider.

The desire for change bit again in 2005 when I purchased the R1150GS that left my ownership this past week. A great machine - always felt planted, dependable yet way too heavy for serious off road use - some folk manage - but for me with my limited skill a DR650 was a far better prospect as an adventure bike. That said the R1150 is a great all roads tourer and in the right hands is a capable sport bike

Having toyed with the idea of owning some sort of KTM 9xx since 2008 I finally realised a R1200GS was actually far more 'me' in terms of riding style and attitude toward maintenance etc. Having had my 09 R1200GS for a little over a week - I'm enjoying the relative lightness compared to the R1150GS and its responsiveness.

Koko makes the point above that sadly the market does not place a great deal of value on the R1150GS - yet they are still great machines - probably seen as too heavy by many aspiring BMW owners who prefer the thought that an F650GS (single) would be more manageable

Not an objective test - simply my impressions - suffice to say I'm very pleased by my new to me R1200GS

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/oaters/BMW%20R1200GS/deliverypicnov2012.jpg

[Gremlin]

What do you like about your 1150/1200s?
For me, my 12GSA is my first foray into BMWs, after 3 Kawasakis (road) and a KTM 990SM. My riding evolved from road only, to also some adventure riding, but more than 1 bike was impractical. It was likely I would travel half the country, then do a nice adventure ride, and I still do a lot more road km than gravel km. Therefore, some sort of dual purpose was required, capable of both (road biased was fine) but still able to do the other (within reason).

I've got no desire to slog it out in mud or sand but have done the odd river crossing, which is fun if you don't keep falling off. For me, the GSA is the do all bike I searched for. I can tackle 1000km a day no problem (longest was 1850km in 25.5 hours and included gravel like Hakataramea Pass at night) and still do a little adventure riding, with tyres being the only limitation. It certainly isn't the easiest in the rough stuff, too large for most people, but I'm a big guy. Gives you an excellent work out too.

Can't imagine a bike that could tackle such diverse riding more easily.

[BMWST?]

Not an objective test - simply my impressions - suffice to say I'm very pleased by my new to me R1200GS


looks like a lot of lunch in the bag!

[Aslan]

looks like a lot of lunch in the bag!

Onya BMWST? - Bag came with the bike - long term plan is to purchase a Wolfman rack for my Wolfman Soft Luggage

[BMWST?]

Onya BMWST? - Bag came with the bike - long term plan is to purchase a Wolfman rack for my Wolfman Soft Luggage

gonna test ride a 1200 soon too

[Aslan]

gonna test ride a 1200 soon too

hope that goes well - will be watching with interest - I'm certainly very pleased with mine

[cold comfort]

Well Koko's post above speaks volumes

Nice looking ride there Stephen. :niceone: I was going to also say Shrek would approve, and then he did,- I must be psychic!.

[_Shrek_]

:clap: very cool there sir

[Padmei]

Great replies guys. Very interesting.
Bike looks lovely Aslan.

[barrie]

Any ideas on decent front suspension upgrades for paralever r100gs? heavier springs maybe, also seen a guy with ohlins cartridge inserts does anyone know where you can get these and where is the best place to get a white power rear shock serviced. Cheers

[Box'a'bits]

Any ideas on decent front suspension upgrades for paralever r100gs? heavier springs maybe, also seen a guy with ohlins cartridge inserts does anyone know where you can get these and where is the best place to get a white power rear shock serviced. Cheers
You're back! Where the ride report & photos? :niceone:

Kokopelli organised import of some inserts from Germany. There's a thread over in ADVrider

[barrie]

Yep, back in one piece, great ride I will put up some photo's when I get them off the phone,went through rainbow, hakataremea,danseys,part of dunstan and back through mavora lakes to Walter peak station to catch the earnslaw, could'nt do all that I wanted, but worried about dropping bike in remote places on my own.
All in all a great ride.

You're back! Where the ride report & photos? :niceone:

Kokopelli organised import of some inserts from Germany. There's a thread over in ADVrider

[Padmei]

who says we can't laugh at ourselves

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[BMWST?]

any of you guys who have modded the sidestand hava spare spring?I have managaed to lose one!?

[Box'a'bits]

any of you guys who have modded the sidestand hava spare spring?I have managaed to lose one!?
Welcome to borrow one of mine while you get a replacement in...

[Box'a'bits]

R80ST, never registered in NZ, Buy Now $2250. Some one buy it (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-542215964.htm) before I do something Mandy will regret. Buy now is ridiculously cheap...No relationship with the seller.

[Aslan]

R80ST, never registered in NZ, Buy Now $2250. Some one buy it (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-542215964.htm) before I do something Mandy will regret. Buy now is ridiculously cheap...No relationship with the seller.

Promised myself I'd not waste time on TradeMe - resolve was weak - took a gander - I have the same challenge as Box'a'bits - hugely tempting but I don't need it - nice bike for someone - paging Koko?

[Padmei]

Someone please buy it soon pleeease before I hit the button:devil2:

[Kokopelli]

Tempting isn't it, even if it was just for swapping over parts. It's got to be worth it.

[JATZ]

Someone please buy it soon pleeease before I hit the button:devil2:

Go on Padders..... Do it...hit that button....you know you want to.....and it is nearly Xmas.....you deserve it :D
BTW...saw you round Haven rd yesterday, ya never even waved back. pfftt, bloody BMW riders :o

[Padmei]

Go on Padders..... Do it...hit that button....you know you want to.....and it is nearly Xmas.....you deserve it :D
BTW...saw you round Haven rd yesterday, ya never even waved back. pfftt, bloody BMW riders :o

Nah I waited till ya went past & threw a lemon at ya. You're lucky i throw like a girl:rolleyes:

[ACECAFE]

G'Day,

Bought a 94 R1150 GS recently. Rode back from work, tank on reserve, refuelled at petrol station and drove off. After 2 kms broke down on the highway, engine cut out and could not restart. With ignition starting, petrol flow ok, but seems to have no spark. Met some amazing people (Mike , Bruce and Alison from Paraparaumu) who helped me out. Took bike to bike shop in town. I thought it might be the hall sensor, but the they think it could be the fuel regulator. Any thoughts anyone and is this a common problem? I hope this will fix the bike because I want it back on the ride asap . Thanks.

[Kokopelli]

G'Day,

Bought a 94 R1150 GS recently. Rode back from work, tank on reserve, refuelled at petrol station and drove off. After 2 kms broke down on the highway, engine cut out and could not restart. With ignition starting, petrol flow ok, but seems to have no spark. Met some amazing people (Mike , Bruce and Alison from Paraparaumu) who helped me out. Took bike to bike shop in town. I thought it might be the hall sensor, but the they think it could be the fuel regulator. Any thoughts anyone and is this a common problem? I hope this will fix the bike because I want it back on the ride asap . Thanks.

Don't want to be a dick, but there is no such thing as a '94 R1150GS. I am guessing you have an 1100 ? If it has no spark, it's probably not fuel related. The only time I got stranded due to a fuel related issue, was when I hadn't had the fuel hose plugged in correctly, after about 500km it finally separated. That took a while to diagnose :-) I've heard that the hall sensor could be a problem with these bikes. '94s were the first year, so here is hoping that all the bikes problems have been taken care off over the years.

[Voltaire]

Someone please buy it soon pleeease before I hit the button:devil2:

I'm glad I didn't know about that......the R65 would have been looking for a new home.....:bye:

[maxf]

G'Day,

Bought a 94 R1150 GS recently. Rode back from work, tank on reserve, refuelled at petrol station and drove off. After 2 kms broke down on the highway, engine cut out and could not restart. With ignition starting, petrol flow ok, but seems to have no spark. Met some amazing people (Mike , Bruce and Alison from Paraparaumu) who helped me out. Took bike to bike shop in town. I thought it might be the hall sensor, but the they think it could be the fuel regulator. Any thoughts anyone and is this a common problem? I hope this will fix the bike because I want it back on the ride asap . Thanks.

If bike shop thinks it's the fuel pressure regulator, they shouldn't think, they should test - simple splice in a pressure gauge and check, usually abt 40PSI. If they can't check that then swap shops, they can't cope with EFI (or their "guessing" is aimed at your wallet?)

Only recently got my 1100GS but in all 21yrs riding EFI K-series never had a FPR die; have read that the Hall-effect sensors (aka HES, read solid-state ignition points) do die - either the little sensors or the wiring - due to heat. Again, the EFI shop should be able to test - if not, print out the test doco from the ADV HAll of Wisdom http://advwisdom.hogranch.com/Wisdom/ and ask them for a BIG discount for doing their job for them! They're under the front engine cover so not too deep to get to.

EDIT: - uploaded to my tesch stuff album as HoW seems down ATM...

Final chance - check the sidestand cutout switch if someone hasn't already removed it. Does the fule pup run in the tank when you switch on the ignition (with the kill switch on)? If not the sparks are probably getting overriden by the sidestand safety switch, which IIRC also disables the pump.
Worth a check!

Good luck

Max

[GSers]

Check the HES: Remove the front plastic belt cover, remove the spark plugs. Put the plugs back in the leads and ground them. Turn on the ignition with side stand up kill switch in the run position and gerabox in neutral. Grab a spanner or ratchet and socket and turn the crank clockwise you will soon see if it has spark once you find one spark position (this is where there is a gap in the can behind the bottom pulley) at 180deg there should be a second one. Although both plugs fire at the same time there must be 2 spark points at 180deg to each other. If you have got spark then you should have the injectors working easily checked by removing one (or listen for the click of the injector) and winding the crank past the sensor the injector should spray. There are other things it could be broken wires up by the ignition steering head fuel filter split this was a problem with them once if the filter has never been changed or split hose in the tank.
So you need compression, spark and fuel all in the right order.
not likely to be the FPR in my opinion but this is easily checked with a pressure guage retrofitted into the fuel line the pressure should be maintaned at 3 Bar

GSers

[Kokopelli]

Off Topic, but do any of you guys have a March 1998 copy of Kiwirider by any chance? Some people like to keep their copies. I am not one of them :-).

[GSers]

Well its time to get back in the shed another month before my six months self imopsed riding ban ends so the project can have some time.
new lower tank side panel templates finished and now need to cut them out of panel steel.
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GSers

[Kokopelli]

It's starting to look like a real bike. Will you be fitting carburetors?

[GSers]

It's starting to look like a real bike. Will you be fitting carburetors?

Carburetors????? fuel injection all the way it has to keep running upside down.

GSers

[GSers]

Dropped the motor out today 5 bolts. Had to get in from the bottom to start the lower tank. the frame in all its glory.
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GSers

[Aslan]

Dropped the motor out today 5 bolts. Had to get in from the bottom to start the lower tank. the frame in all its glory.

GSers

looking great Gerard! Has the collar bone been plated or has it healed naturally - Seasons Greetings S

[GSers]

Hello Steve, happy new year to you aswell. They left me alone much to my discust. Not that imprest with the surgeon he just siad he didn't operate on collar bones and that was that. Haven't seen anyone about it for nearly 3 months. I suppose it must be healing but its a bl--dy funny shape now and a pain in the arse with the car seat belt. But I am sure I will get use to it one day. So in short it must be sticking itself back together. How is yours going are they going to leave the plate in or eventually take it out. Are you going to the DB? How is the 1200 going?
GSers

[BMWST?]

Hello Steve, happy new year to you aswell. They left me alone much to my discust. Not that imprest with the surgeon he just siad he didn't operate on collar bones and that was that. Haven't seen anyone about it for nearly 3 months. I suppose it must be healing but its a bl--dy funny shape now and a pain in the arse with the car seat belt. But I am sure I will get use to it one day. So in short it must be sticking itself back together. How is yours going are they going to leave the plate in or eventually take it out. Are you going to the DB? How is the 1200 going?
GSers

my mate insisted he have a plate,i think they leave em in

[dmoo1790]

Hello Steve, happy new year to you aswell. They left me alone much to my discust. Not that imprest with the surgeon he just siad he didn't operate on collar bones and that was that. Haven't seen anyone about it for nearly 3 months. I suppose it must be healing but its a bl--dy funny shape now and a pain in the arse with the car seat belt. But I am sure I will get use to it one day. So in short it must be sticking itself back together. How is yours going are they going to leave the plate in or eventually take it out. Are you going to the DB? How is the 1200 going?
GSers

Apologies for butting in uninvited but I broke my collar bone 30+ years ago and nothing was done to set it correctly. Just wear this sling and you'll be fine. Yeah right! I now wish I had had it re-broken and set straight. Problem is if it's not straight the shoulder joint is not properly supported. Usually not a biggie but I'm now finding a few things give me twinges. I really cannot understand why any clavicle break is allowed to just set itself. No way it will be straight with muscles pulling on it. Cost of surgery for plating I suppose.

[Kickaha]

my mate insisted he have a plate,i think they leave em in

I know two people who had them taken out, they were told that was an option when the initial surgery was done

[GSers]

Now you have got me going. when I first saw the registrar about 10 days after the accident at the hospital he said it was a 50-50 call on surgery but they did nothing I was a bit pissed I tell you, so after another visit I went and got a second opinion in Wellington and he said it would heel but take a long time but gave me a letter that suggested surgery would be the best option for a speedy recovery with options to take the plate out again later down the track. The orthopedic surgeons name above the door at the hospital got that letter 4 weeks later he finally made an appointment to see me sat me down in his office and told me he did not operate on collar bones unless there was great amounts of pain. There in lies the problem no brain no pain. He also said that if they operated on all broken collar bones then they would have to build a new hospital just for those operations. He also said that modern thinking I might have read on the net came out of USA because of all the surgeons looking for work over there.
And I was sitting there thinking what a twat where is your head up your a--. Anyway I figured I was screwed 10 weeks had passed and it had started to heel and another reason is that all the orthopedic surgeons here in PN all work out of the same building. Mates mate.
So I have seen him once and wont be going back to see him again.
So much for ACC I thought insurance was for putting thing back to the same condition as it was prior to an accident.
As for funny twinges tell me about it. Anyway I am just going to get on with it things could be alot worse. End of January and I am getting back on the bike and see how things go pain clothing etc etc
Here is the pic.
GSers

[Box'a'bits]

But if you had seen the same surgeon thru' his private practice he would have suggested plating it...Health Insurance is a wonderful thing...

[GSers]

About time ACC was privatised, then I would be happy to have private medical insurance. Paying around a couple of grand levy's now and dont have any choice except to walk everywhere.
GSers

[Padmei]

Project bike ready for someone

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-548258675.htm

[GSers]

To baffle or not. What do you think should hold about 15 Ltrs

GSers

[Box'a'bits]

To baffle or not. What do you think should hold about 15 Ltrs

GSers
Baffling would help with structural rigidity, especially if this is going to be a metal tank.

[GSers]

Baffling would help with structural rigidity, especially if this is going to be a metal tank.

I don't think rigidity is going to be a problem its 1mm panel steel just thinking of 15Kgs moving around down there ie: under brakes or side to side

GSers

[Box'a'bits]

I don't think rigidity is going to be a problem its 1mm panel steel just thinking of 15Kgs moving around down there ie: under brakes or side to side

GSersThat's why I said about baffles introducing structural rigidity. It's all central, so slop will be fine. My nylon tank is divided by the frame spine, which gives some baffling, but there is a heap of potential movement there. But nylon can move - steel not so much... 15ls is not much though

[Woodman]

You could put some evomx foam baffle cubes in . Got them on the klr with the big tank and they definitely work.

[GSers]

So your saying you dont feel the fuel slopping around at slow speed. ie: changes in bike weight feeling.
I wonder how they would stand up to being put inside the tank before I welded the top in place.
I will google it tomorrow and check it out. Thanks

GSers

[GSers]

You could put some evomx foam baffle cubes in . Got them on the klr with the big tank and they definitely work.

Hey Woodman, that looks like the stuff I am after save's adding any more metal / weight to the tank I think I should be able to push that through the filler pipe hole.
Did you buy it in NZ (where) or bring it in from over the seas?
Thanks

GSers

[Woodman]

Hey Woodman, that looks like the stuff I am after save's adding any more metal / weight to the tank I think I should be able to push that through the filler pipe hole.
Did you buy it in NZ (where) or bring it in from over the seas?
Thanks

GSers

I got it through work, still have a box on the shelf on clearance at the moment. I have 1.5 boxes in my tank (28 litres) which pretty much fills it up except for a couple of litres at the top.

If you want some it can be arranged no worries.

[GSers]

Day in the shed couldn't find fittings that I wanted to make these tanks work so have had to make them.

1 evomx foam and inspection
2 old petcock YZ tank
3 replacement for petcock to 3/4 hose
4 outlet to weld into the bottom of the tank

Hey Woodman how is that nose going? Hope your healing OK
Bike riding next weekend wof rego go for a ride.

GSers

[Woodman]

Day in the shed couldn't find fittings that I wanted to make these tanks work so have had to make them.

1 evomx foam and inspection
2 old petcock YZ tank
3 replacement for petcock to 3/4 hose
4 outlet to weld into the bottom of the tank

Hey Woodman how is that nose going? Hope your healing OK
Bike riding next weekend wof rego go for a ride.

GSers

Nose is healing up ok thanks, stitches out last week so now just waiting for it to heal up. My nose will be a different shape I think.

[GSers]

For all you airheads

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-564180060.htm

GSers

[Kokopelli]

For all you airheads

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-564180060.htm

GSers

Only if it goes cheap. Somehow I think it might not. But hey, I don't want it to go cheap. :-) I am guessing $3500-4500.

[Padmei]

I don't think it will end up being a bargain but will be interesting to see what it goes for. I have an amount in mind I will bid up to.

[Oscar]

For all you airheads

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-564180060.htm

GSers

It was until you showed it to these lunkheads..:facepalm:

[GSers]

It was until you showed it to these lunkheads..:facepalm:

You have got to many already. :bleh::bleh: Last time I saw it the bike that is it had some flash forks on it if anybody wants to know who owns it PM me.

GSers

[Voltaire]

This lunkhead got outbid...:rolleyes:

[Kokopelli]

It ends on the 4th of March, what's the rush? I am not even bidding. Whoever buys it will probably find a bit of a mismatch between rear and front suspension, but all you have to do is throw money at it to fix it.

I somehow think that my small tank will get to go riding again for a while.

[Padmei]

I reckon under $4500 & it'd be worth it. Are those stock forks without gaiters? They look really flimsy without them. it's the white frame that sets it apart visually I reckon.
it's gone past my limit.

[sfordnz]

thinking of selling my r1100gs as haven't ridden it in a year sits in the garage reg on hold with a battery keeper plugged in, been mucking around on 2 strokes instead
what do the experts out there think it'll be worth
brand new mitas e07s
32kms
abs
tidy
???????

[Crim]

not much at all for an 1150 - in fact I can come and take it off your hands if you like for a 2005 KLR and a bit of cash:lol: ........................................my way (obviously):killingme:

[Eddieb]

not much at all for an 1150 - in fact I can come and take it off your hands if you like for a 2005 KLR and a bit of cash:lol: ........................................my way (obviously):killingme:

You couldn't handle all that power Crim

[Kokopelli]

Current bid: $4,250.00

that's fairly interesting It doesn't even have a PD tank :-).

[Eddieb]

Current bid: $4,250.00

that's fairly interesting It doesn't even have a PD tank :-).

Too rich for me by far. I would have only wrecked it by putting a sidecar on it anyway.