North Island invasion of South Island

[bart]

Cheers Michael. Can't wait, even though I feel slightly guilty about missing my wifes birthday....................she's looking over my shoulder :hug:

[Pampera]

Mike thanks for organising these travel details.
Why is there's always someone wants wants to do something different? God help the other passengers with those DerveRts lurking around the fairy in the early hours of the morning. :moon:

OK, sorry about the delay in replying, I had to confirm the following arrangements with the ferry master first.

Due to the factor Andy refers to, and the talking in the ranks in evidence at the top of the page, the following is in place for the two 0225 "early birds" before they will be allowed to ascend to the passenger accommodation:

they will swab down the rail and vehicle decks of the ship, using toothbrushes,
followed by:
ten laps of the vehicle deck, at the double, wearing full riding gear, including helmets, and holding a set of tyre levers (or a tyre pump) above their heads.


Michael

[Woodman]

Although I have been riding for a while now, pretty much all of it has been day rides, so seeing how the NI invasion is my first big adventure(for me) I am curious about what to bring.

Do I need to bring any food?
will I need to get a sleeping bag, although i see the nurses home has linen if thats where we are staying.
Is hard or soft luggage best. Have both but am leaning to soft as the top box could break in a fall. (unlikely of course)
Should i bring my full or half full bottle of rum?

What do you guys take?

[Paladin]

ignore the philistines Michael
eventually they'll go away

thanks for organizing that

Yeah, we're going away on the 2.25am Hard Men's Ferry!

;)

p.s. i already thanked Michael by PM thank you very much mr smarty pants; philistines? - how double dare you!

;)

[Paladin]

OK, sorry about the delay in replying, I had to confirm the following arrangements with the ferry master first.

Due to the factor Andy refers to, and the talking in the ranks in evidence at the top of the page, the following is in place for the two 0225 "early birds" before they will be allowed to ascend to the passenger accommodation:

they will swab down the rail and vehicle decks of the ship, using toothbrushes,
followed by:
ten laps of the vehicle deck, at the double, wearing full riding gear, including helmets, and holding a set of tyre levers (or a tyre pump) above their heads.


Michael

Awesome, I didn't fancy tryin to bother sleeping just for 3 hours anyway! And we're not the "early birds", we're the "Hard As F*CK Men"!!!!

:whistle:

(Except when it comes to attempting Cnut Hill with spine damage!)
:crybaby:
(Then I'm just a wimpy weeny peeni sensible person who's savin himself for the Invasion!)

:woohoo:

[NordieBoy]

Although I have been riding for a while now, pretty much all of it has been day rides, so seeing how the NI invasion is my first big adventure(for me) I am curious about what to bring.

Do I need to bring any food?
will I need to get a sleeping bag, although i see the nurses home has linen if thats where we are staying.
Is hard or soft luggage best. Have both but am leaning to soft as the top box could break in a fall. (unlikely of course)
Should i bring my full or half full bottle of rum?

What do you guys take?

Wilson's Pub for food. Specially dinnererers :yes:
I'm taking a sleeping bag.
Luggage. More along the lines of a backpack with a change of clothes. Leave your luggage at the nurses home for the Sat ride.
Full bottle.

[Padmei]

Woody bring some toilet paper. Do we have to boook the nurses home or rock up there?

[XF650]

Yes, you will need toilet paper for Napolean Hill

[marks]

Although I have been riding for a while now, pretty much all of it has been day rides, so seeing how the NI invasion is my first big adventure(for me) I am curious about what to bring.

Do I need to bring any food?
will I need to get a sleeping bag, although i see the nurses home has linen if thats where we are staying.
Is hard or soft luggage best. Have both but am leaning to soft as the top box could break in a fall. (unlikely of course)
Should i bring my full or half full bottle of rum?

What do you guys take?

We will stay at the nurses home (I will call them today to make sure they have some space) so you most probably wont need a sleeping bag.

I normally have some porridge sachets with me so that breakfast is easily sorted (and dinner if I'm desperate) . Apart from that I buy food as I go

I'll take my hard top box but have a soft day pack for the knarlier bits and leave the top box at Reefton.

I'll also have soft panniers (I carry too much shit) that I'll leave in Reefton.

Sometimes these places dont have towels/flannels/soap so I always bring my own.

you bring a full bottle of rum and I'll bring a full bottle of coke and we'll share - that sounds fair to me......

Nordie - why bring a sleeping bag?

[marks]

accomodation for Friday 22nd and Saturday 23rd is confirmed as being:
THE OLD NURSES HOME ACCOMMODATION
104 Shiel St, Reefton, New Zealand
Phone:64 3 732 8881

Phone to make a booking - say you are with the kiwibiker group.
$35 single room
$30 share a double room

[BMWST?]

if i change my mind and decide to tag along will that be a problem?..Obviuosly i will sort the ferry myself without the discount,or could i still grab some sort of discount???I will take any "easy" versions of the gnarlier tracks,my rear tyre is a road tyre.Wont we need a sleeping bag for thursday night?

[marks]

if i change my mind and decide to tag along will that be a problem?..Obviuosly i will sort the ferry myself without the discount,or could i still grab some sort of discount???I will take any "easy" versions of the gnarlier tracks,my rear tyre is a road tyre.Wont we need a sleeping bag for thursday night?

be good to have you along

most motor camps will provide bedding for an extra fee ($5 normally) so I don't take a sleeping bag to save the space

a road tire will limit you but wont stop you having fun.

cheers


Mark

[BMWST?]

be good to have you along

most motor camps will provide bedding for an extra fee ($5 normally) so I don't take a sleeping bag to save the space

a road tire will limit you but wont stop you having fun.

cheers


Mark

thanks..usual problems,having just bought a bike plus gear,there are a few things i need to sort,ie no tools,BAD brakes and so so suspension.It all takes a few $$ which are in short supply at the moment!/Would really like to tag along though!

[Underground]

Woodman ...Take some spare undies , You will need undies .

[Box'a'bits]

I advised InterIslander today the following wished to book the special offer for the NI invasion:

Balrog
Andy Mac
MarkS
EddieB
Bart
Joe
Paladin

Everybody but Dave and Joe are requesting the Thursday 1825 sailing heading South. Joe and Dave wish to travel on the 0225 that morning. We will all be on the Sunday 1805 ex Picton home.

Including me that is 8 bikes and riders.

I am now waiting for Faye at IIL to confirm these bookings. Each individual will then get confirmation from me and special instructions (both by PM from me) on how to pay the IIL direct, by cheque and mail or phone and credit card. Note that the method of paying will be specific to our special deal - you have to follow my instructions to use this deal, you cannot just ring the 0800 number and talk to anybody.

Regards,
Michael

Hi Michael, sent you a PM. Appears to be some confusion here. I was also on that list, but now seems to have dropped off. :crazy: Is it possible to add me in, 'cause I'm definitely keen to go....:yes:

Cheers, Steve

[junkmanjoe]

Thanks Michael
ill bring me mop to swab the deck or some shit like that.
the fukn boat better not sink in the middle off the night.

i be bringing my new -10deg sleppy bag,:cold:

my luggage is a camping pack, panniers and my tank bag.
hope to have my safari on with new taps,,,,if they turn up some time this year....

thursday ill be scouting around for a few job options down that way, if you southern lads let a northener in....
as with recent devopments with my job up here im very luck for my partner to still let me go.

all good aye.
:yes:

[JATZ]

Although I have been riding for a while now, pretty much all of it has been day rides, so seeing how the NI invasion is my first big adventure(for me) I am curious about what to bring.

Do I need to bring any food?
will I need to get a sleeping bag, although i see the nurses home has linen if thats where we are staying.
Is hard or soft luggage best. Have both but am leaning to soft as the top box could break in a fall. (unlikely of course)
Should i bring my full or half full bottle of rum?

What do you guys take?

Wallet...
Sleeping bag....
Change of undies....
Travel light , like a ninja

And only full bottles accepted.......... Buddy :hug:

[Padmei]

Woodman ...Take some spare undies , You will need undies .

We go commando this side of the maunga...:moon:

[Padmei]

Hi Michael, sent you a PM. Appears to be some confusion here. I was also on that list, but now seems to have dropped off. :crazy: Is it possible to add me in, 'cause I'm definitely keen to go....:yes:

Cheers, Steve

Being that baby home to poppa!! I'll have to have a test ride sorry but as Underground will tell you I sometimes leave deposits on the seat - It's my lions they can't help themselves...

[Paladin]

We go commando this side of the maunga...:moon:

Ewwwwwwwwwww!

Makes keepin control of those clenching moments even MORE important!

:crazy:

[BMWST?]

Ewwwwwwwwwww!

Makes keepin control of those clenching moments even MORE important!

:crazy:

thats why you clench mate.......

[JATZ]

thats why you clench mate.......


Also pays to not tuck ya pants into ya boots.......Just in case :eek5:

[bart]

Accomodation booked. Single so I can fart and snore as much as I like. :whistle:

Any whiskey drinkers, or are you all girly rum drinkers. :dodge:

[Paladin]

Accomodation booked. Single so I can fart and snore as much as I like. :whistle:

Any whiskey drinkers, or are you all girly rum drinkers. :dodge:

whiskey matey!!!

:2thumbsup

(actually my preferred beverage is Tequilla but maybe not a good plan on a 4 day trip on a bike!) ;)

[Pampera]

OK – Everybody below has confirmed bookings on the sailings we planned for the Invasion ride. All except Joe and Dave are on the 0225, the rest are on the 1825.

Balrog*
Andy Mac
MarkS*
EddieB*
BMWRSNUT*
Bart*
Joe*
Paladin*

I have a personal InterIslander booking confirmation e-mail to forward to each of you:

If you have a * beside your KiwiBiker name, could you PM me your home or work e-mail address so I can forward the IIL message. I will put how to pay in each e-mail as well.

I (and the InterIslander) are still prepared to make more bookings on the special Invasion fare so long as you confirm over the next few days.

Don’t panic if it takes couple of days before you get your mail, I will grind through this over the next couple of days.
I have also booked myself!

Michael

[Woodman]

Good advice there fullas, except for the porridge, I would rather eat padmeis undies for breakfast.

[marks]

Good advice there fullas, except for the porridge, I would rather eat padmeis undies for breakfast.

if you are going to eat Padmeis undies make sure his lions haven't been shitting in them

[Box'a'bits]

if you are going to eat Padmeis undies make sure his lions haven't been shitting in them

Actually I don't think he was suggesting that he WOULD shit in them. I think he was suggesting he could add cream to your porridge.

[Padmei]

oh its getting pretty gross now. I'mgonna have to book a single room if Yous guys are having all nighters.

[marks]

oh its getting pretty gross now. I'mgonna have to book a single room if Yous guys are having all nighters.

where will Igor sleep?

[BMWST?]

ok can some confirm where the thurdsday night accomodation is please.Reefton i know,picton(or wherever) I dont,or are people just making their own plans?

[andy mac]

done mate.
just thought id get it sorted sooner than leave it till last thing.
here is where i got us a cabin, think its about 10 mins from ferry terminal.

http://www.waikawa.kiwiholidayparks.com/

ok chaps.
0 beds left.

Here's the link to the Waikawa Bay Holiday Park.

[marks]

Here's the link to the Waikawa Bay Holiday Park.

I've just booked here
If I recall - the cabins are a bit grotty but its only an in-out job so it doesn't matter

if it all goes shitfaced then we can blame Joe.

[bart]

I've just booked here
If I recall - the cabins are a bit grotty but its only an in-out job so it doesn't matter

if it all goes shitfaced then we can blame Joe.

I'll be that drunk it'll look like the Ritz.

[junkmanjoe]

thats what joe is for, kick his arse when hes down...

i wont be able to afford the $30 per night rooms at reefton nurse home. she told me the dorm room is booked out.
so i risk it and stay in the motorcamp.:cold:

ooohhhh scary man.....:eek5: is that a possum or my pillow....:crazy:

[Box'a'bits]

I'm with Joe. Reefton cabins should be fine. Would be surprised if there isn't adequate heating there.

Steve

[junkmanjoe]

i ask her about heating and there is a heater in the room.
and showers are free..

cool.

[Pampera]

Unless I missed somebody I have had e-mail responses from all of you or am otherwise aware of your e-mail address and then have sent you your personalised InterIsland booking confirmation, so you should all be set to pay for and confirm your ferry reservation.
Balrog yes
Andy Mac yes
MarkS yes
EddieB yes
BMWRSNUT yes
Bart yes
Joe yes
Paladin yes
me yes - booked and paid

I (and the InterIslander) are still prepared to make more bookings on the special Invasion fare so long as you confirm over the next few days.

Michael

[Woodman]

Booked me room tonight, snore louder than a 747 so single is best.

[junkmanjoe]

hope we dont hear you takeing off from the motercamp.

[Padmei]

I'm booked too.

[junkmanjoe]

shit i hope they dont forget to put the bung in the back of the boat.

[Woodman]

shit i hope they dont forget to put the bung in the back of the boat.

Don't worry the bilge pump has a DR motor.

[Paladin]

Booked me room tonight, snore louder than a 747 so single is best.

After Thursday nite, Joe will probably bannish me to a single room too for my snoring!

:gob:

[junkmanjoe]

Don't worry the bilge pump has a DR motor.

oh we be fuked then possably snap a cam chain half way across......:crazy:

[Paladin]

oh we be fuked then possably snap a cam chain half way across......:crazy:

or... blow out a fuel tap and spew diesel all over the Cook Strait!

;)

[LBD]

shit i hope they dont forget to put the bung in the back of the boat.


Don't worry the bilge pump has a DR motor.

Best bilge pump invented....frightened biker with a bucket


or... blow out a fuel tap and spew diesel all over the Cook Strait!

;) Dont mention diesel spills around me ..MATE...was in the middle of the MDF spill.... Bloke responsible just needs to hope the authorities catch him before a few others of us do....*^%@#&%ard

Only two weeks away have fun....

[junkmanjoe]

LBD
have you recived the parcile yet.
i have a feeling its not going to make it.

[Box'a'bits]

A question for those familar with the route. How aggressive do we really need to be with tyres? A review of MarkS's last trip photos shows much of the tracks to be gravel or rock. How much mud is there?

Stuck an MT21 on for the KCAR ride & have mostly rooted it. Didn't really need it except for the wet version of Fishers Track. Knobs have shruck fro 15mm to 5-6mm in the centreline. The MT21 wore badly because I dropped pressure because I couldn't get it to hook up properly in gravel. It started to chunk. In mud it was good. Wear settled down when I upped the pressures again, but traction suffered. Given the wear rate, I probably won't go there again.

Given the mileage of this trip, & the road work to be done, can I get away with a 2/3rds worn MT21 at raod pressures (don't think it'll last), a 1/2 worn MT70 (do the mileage easy, but in mud?), or should I be looking at a new tyre, & if so which one? Cost is an issue for this trip.

So the choice is 33% MT21, 50% MT70, new MT70, new E09. How deep are the knobs on the E09 anyway?

I'll leave the front MT21 as in (still 80% good).
Cheers

Steve

[junkmanjoe]

he steve i have E-09 on the front aprox 200kms on it, and is showing aprox 7mm center heaps chunk on out side.

[JATZ]

A question for those familar with the route. How aggressive do we really need to be with tyres? A review of MarkS's last trip photos shows much of the tracks to be gravel or rock. How much mud is there?

Stuck an MT21 on for the KCAR ride & have mostly rooted it. Didn't really need it except for the wet version of Fishers Track. Knobs have shruck fro 15mm to 5-6mm in the centreline. The MT21 wore badly because I dropped pressure because I couldn't get it to hook up properly in gravel. It started to chunk. In mud it was good. Wear settled down when I upped the pressures again, but traction suffered. Given the wear rate, I probably won't go there again.

Given the mileage of this trip, & the road work to be done, can I get away with a 2/3rds worn MT21 at raod pressures (don't think it'll last), a 1/2 worn MT70 (do the mileage easy, but in mud?), or should I be looking at a new tyre, & if so which one? Cost is an issue for this trip.

So the choice is 33% MT21, 50% MT70, new MT70, new E09. How deep are the knobs on the E09 anyway?

I'll leave the front MT21 as in (still 80% good).
Cheers

Steve


I'll have a 2/3 worn MT21, it should be fine (but I have an old trackmaster to chuck on if we get a bit of rain).
Mrs jatz did big river on a half worn trailwing, and I've done it on an E-08 at road pressure.
So long as it's round and black and holds air you'll be fine:whistle:

[marks]

I'll leave the front MT21 as in (still 80% good).
Cheers

Steve

Having a good front tire is by far the most important on the tracks we will be on. The only exception would be if we go to Napoleon Hill/Mosquito Creek in which case you would be totally fooked with a girlie back tire (lots and lots of big round slippery river stones).

Depending on what the majority want its likely we will not do Napoleon Hill/Mosquito Creek but instead do Big River and Waitahu River on the Saturday as I don't think we get time on Friday for Waitahu River.

I'll have a 60% worn D606 on the front and either a 90% rooted D606 or 70% worn E09 on the back.

[junkmanjoe]

I have a E-09 rear spare if any one short a nobby.
for the invasion.......oohhh so looking forward to it.

even the early start ferry ride as well.

Hay and body know if we have to tie our own bikes down on the ferry.
we take our own straps or use 5 tonne straps on the boat.

[BMWST?]

I have a E-09 rear spare if any one short a nobby.
for the invasion.......oohhh so looking forward to it.

even the early start ferry ride as well.

Hay and body know if we have to tie our own bikes down on the ferry.
we take our own straps or use 5 tonne straps on the boat.

i have always tied my bike down....there is a thread here somewhere on ferries and staps/tie downs.If you have tie downs it surely wouldnt hurt to take them....

[junkmanjoe]

i have my own which i was going to take anyway.

[marks]

i have my own which i was going to take anyway.

the ones on the ferrys are normally rooted and dirty

[Woodman]

i have my own which i was going to take anyway.

What boat yous on bluebridge or rail.

I went over a couple of weeks ago and used both ferries.

Bluebridge only had lengths of rope with a loop on one end and no tie downs so you need to use initiative or have a truckie in the group.

Rail has rope and tiedowns, but all but one of the tiedowns was rusted and useless.
Rope is the better option imho

I always tie mine down on the stand side so there is 3 points of contact and have never had an issue and tbh it would have to be bloody rough to tip a bike over even if it wasn't tied down. Can someone volunteer to do this as an experiment please.

[Box'a'bits]

Interislander. Best to take your own tie downs. The Waikawa camp may be able to hold them until Sunday (we've got them to do that yrs ago going to the Monkey).

I tend not to tie down bikes on side stands, in order to prevent the stand base cracking. I put the tie-downs on loosely first, then stand the bike upright, put the stand up, then tighten the straps to hold it up. :calm:

Once saw a sorry result of a newbie tying down a GN250 next to a gang members Harley. After the sailing we fortunately we got down before the gang member, and put things quickly to rights ...no damage, but I guarantee the 17 yr old pimple would have been flattened by the Harley owner if he had seen what resulted. :pinch:

Thanks guys for comments on the tyres. Joe, thanks for the offer, but I'm on an 18 rear. The DR is a 17.

[warewolf]

It's been a while since I bothered taking my own tie downs, but I'm happy with doing truckies hitches etc. Dirty ropes are fine, in fact they have more friction than new clean nylon which can be bloody slippery.

One of the boats had actual cam-style strap tie-downs (bluebridge I think), it wasn't immediately obvious how they worked; the obvious way was wrong and they slipped when pulled against one other, but one would usually hold the bike by itself - bit of a gotcha. A quick re-thread and they worked fine and dandy despite being mostly rusty. Out of ~20 of them, only one was broken, but that was a while ago now.

Chock the front wheel, a pair of ties on the lower triple-clamp to hold the bike upright and against the chock, then one more at the back (not so tight) to stop the rear bouncing around - just like on a trailer. Job done. As Woody says, and a load master said to me once, "mate if it's rough enough to shake that bike loose, you'll have far more important things to worry about!!" The thing you have to watch is oscillating motion working things loose.

[junkmanjoe]

it be ok to use my fork straps and tie off same as on my ute, its never fallen on there.

[NordieBoy]

I went BlueBridge to pick up the DR and there were only ropes.

[Woodman]

I went BlueBridge to pick up the DR and there were only ropes.

Ropes are better, never trust a camlock tiedown.

[warewolf]

Ropes are better, never trust a camlock tiedown.Unless you tie it off...

[junkmanjoe]

ive got plenty of 2.5t load straps. i dont tink ill load with a full safari, just in case it falls over.
ya all see the mushroom cloud from nelson....

[bart]

I'll be taking a rope. Tie downs are too heavy, and I plan on traveling light. plus if you loose the rope.................who cares.:whocares:

Should add though, if my bike falls over.....................who cares.

[Woodman]

Unless you tie it off...

great advice, always always always tie them off.

[Underground]

Theres plenty of straps in the I I but theyre all fooked ,but can still be used like a rope though , B B has plenty of ropes so you dont have to take anything on either of them unless youre really fussy

[junkmanjoe]

my last ferry crossing was when all them cars got damage its so rough, i loved it...glasses sliding on the tables, cool.

[Pampera]

All of us are travelling on the Arahura heading south and the Aratere north. The Kaitaki has recently introduced a fixed clamp arrangement for securing motorcycles – as the result of work by another motorcyclist in my design team at KiwiRail and the efforts of a former fellow rail engineer, now working for the InterIslander division of the company. I understand the other ships may introduce this system as well. Since we are not on this ship we won’t be seeing them!

I must have made 50 – 60 crossings with motorcycle over the years and usually carry my own tiedowns and use these and a combination of what is there on the ferry deck. There will usually be a mix of mainly hooked ropes and a few “Aerofast” tie downs. InterIslander have given up on the tie downs because of theft. I don’t mean a few, I mean pretty much the entire set put out in the morning, stolen throughout the day, every day they did it. This is our fellow motorcyclists guys.

Anyway, does not matter. You leave your gloves on with the ropes, so you don’t get dirty hands. Helmet and jacket off, only tyre changing seems to build up more of a sweat than tying bikes down in the hot vehicle deck! I always take my own tie downs to provide the basic securing because I am useless with knots. I have a set of four “Aerofast” roof rack tiedowns, these are half size with a small cam and no ratchet, they fasten in a loop and you pull on them to tighten. Wound up the set of four is about the size of the palms of both hands. I slap rubber bands around them to pack them up.

It does not matter whether the bike is on side or centre stand. I always find it easier to put a big BMW on the centre stand though, this allows the bike to be stable while assembling the tiedowns. There are rubber wedges for jamming under car or truck wheels and one of these under each of a big bikes back and front wheel works well with the ropes or tie downs to secure everything. Smaller bikes are easily tied down trailer style, with the stand up and suspension compressed.

Bottom line is you can certainly manage with what is provided, so long as you take your time. You don't need the internet to help, just show up!

For what it is worth, Arahura is “soft” ship, it rolls gently back to vertical so accelerations are lower and cargo less likely to shift!

Michael

[buggsubique]

Well, turns out I'm free to join you blokes for this ride after a small sequence of minor miracles.:2thumbsup

Joe, whazza cost of them cabins at the motorcamp - or are you tenting it?

Probly can't escort dudes around Marlborough on Thursday now, but will be able to join up with the main body on Friday AM as you pass through town.

Ohh, very exciting!

Now to try and get my H4 lights mod sorted, and try get to the bottom of why the alternator output wires are running so hot...can't be fooked breaking down in Reeftown or Big River!:crazy:

[Paladin]

Well, turns out I'm free to join you blokes for this ride after a small sequence of minor miracles.:2thumbsup

Joe, whazza cost of them cabins at the motorcamp - or are you tenting it?

Probly can't escort dudes around Marlborough on Thursday now, but will be able to join up with the main body on Friday AM as you pass through town.

Ohh, very exciting!

Now to try and get my H4 lights mod sorted, and try get to the bottom of why the alternator output wires are running so hot...can't be fooked breaking down in Reeftown or Big River!:crazy:

Great news Matt!!!!!!

No freekin way are we tenting it, we're not quite THAT hard LOL!

:whistle:

Will look fwd to meetin u in person mate!

:2thumbsup

[Underground]

Well, turns out I'm free to join you blokes for this ride after a small sequence of minor miracles.:2thumbsup

Joe, whazza cost of them cabins at the motorcamp - or are you tenting it?

Probly can't escort dudes around Marlborough on Thursday now, but will be able to join up with the main body on Friday AM as you pass through town.

Ohh, very exciting!

Now to try and get my H4 lights mod sorted, and try get to the bottom of why the alternator output wires are running so hot...can't be fooked breaking down in Reeftown or Big River!:crazy:

Be good to get the twins together at last :hug: I've just booked a room at the old nurses home ,I think its a twin (theres that word again) so if you get stuck theres a bed in there.
Hot wires ? sounds like it could be a poor connection or earth ,or mabe even the reg rec ,is the battery boiling ?
Actually should start an @ owners thread to discuss this stuff

[BMWST?]

....... and try get to the bottom of why the alternator output wires are running so hot...can't be fooked breaking down in Reeftown or Big River!:crazy:

not the rectifier/regulator is it...known prob with lotsa bikes(incl the @)

[buggsubique]

off topic i know... but don't think so...but possibly. all the test I've run say the reg is ok... have a great faultchecking pdf file for any bike.

[junkmanjoe]

Joe, whazza cost of them cabins at the motorcamp - or are you tenting it?

the ones at reefton are $17 per person per night.
i booked a 3 bed cabin. have a full house...with rum/coke and chippies,:2thumbsup dirty tui girls.. blowup sheep:eek5:, ya know just the lads out for a good time.

[junkmanjoe]

mark can you plz.
make a map of the roads you wish to travel.

and if its snows and my balls get cold, its your fault.:pinch:

[Padmei]

The lack of CHCH riders attending is quite conspicious. Is it OK with you Nth Islanders if I extend a warm invitation to Sthn riders to join us for hijinks & gravel & mud?

[pete376403]

For what it is worth, Arahura is “soft” ship, it rolls gently back to vertical so accelerations are lower and cargo less likely to shift!
Michael
Apparently not since the last refit in Singapore. If what I've been told is true (and I have no reason to doubt the source) several hundred tons of steel were cut out of the vehicle deck in an attempt to get more trucks in, which has made the ship bow-heavy, even after dumping a lot of concrete into cavities at the stern. Net result the ship now carries LESS freight than before becuase of the 'ride quality". (that was a few months ago - they may have fixed it since then)

[pete376403]

off topic i know... but don't think so...but possibly. all the test I've run say the reg is ok... have a great faultchecking pdf file for any bike.

Check for bad connections in the charging circuit. Any resistance will be a cause of heating in the wires, etc. Pull the connectors apart and make sure they are shiney bright. (and if you were riding a Suzuki GS I'd say check the oil level, as engine oil is used to cool the alternator)

[marks]

mark can you plz.
make a map of the roads you wish to travel.

and if its snows and my balls get cold, its your fault.:pinch:

I would but I don't know how - instructions anyone?
we will take a lot of left and right turns and it will be fun
if your balls get cold its because of those open backed leather chaps all DR riders wear...

Listen all you DR riders - this is not appropriate riding apparel for this trip
http://vfrworld.com/photos/data/810/chaps-motorcycle-harley-745986.jpg


The lack of CHCH riders attending is quite conspicious. Is it OK with you Nth Islanders if I extend a warm invitation to Sthn riders to join us for hijinks & gravel & mud?

nah
fuckem all











oh
ok

[warewolf]

several hundred tons of steel were cut out of the vehicle deckSomebody made a killing at the scrap metal merchant...

[Pampera]

Apparently not since the last refit in Singapore. If what I've been told is true (and I have no reason to doubt the source) several hundred tons of steel were cut out of the vehicle deck in an attempt to get more trucks in, which has made the ship bow-heavy, even after dumping a lot of concrete into cavities at the stern. Net result the ship now carries LESS freight than before becuase of the 'ride quality". (that was a few months ago - they may have fixed it since then)


As to how this would affect the ROLL quality of the ship, I am at a loss to explain. There is more to why the Arahura was modified than your source has stated, starting with the fact that the ship was no longer going to be allowed to carry more than 400 passengers, half its original rating, due to the steady tightening of the SOLAS (Safety of Life at Sea) rules, which a ship that entered service in 1984 was eventually going to struggle to meet. It was not able to remain usefully in service in its 1984 configuration.

M

[NordieBoy]

Listen all you DR riders - this is not appropriate riding apparel for this trip

Ok ok...

I got the hint.

I'll shave my chest then...

[andy mac]

Roll quality of boats is influenced by both hull shape & the vertical centre of gravity etc.

Commercial ships have a flattish bottom & slab sides making them stable load carriers but not fast (high drag). Car carriers are the extreme box shape for maximum size for a light weight cargo.
Canoes with a round bottom are unstable because there is no resistance to rolling but low drag=easy speed.
Yachts use canoe hulls with keels (weight slung underneath) to keep them upright.

A good roll quality is when it gradually reduces from side to side - a boat is rolled by a wave to 2 oclock, it recovers to 10.30, to 1.00, to 11.30, to 12.
But if the centre of gravity is to low the boat recovers too quickly & is unpleasant to be on.

Commercial fishing boats are often converted into pleasure boats but because they are no longer carrying tons of fish near deck level they recover too quickly - a simple fix is too put a telephone mast (raises centre of gravity) and slows the roll.

When a yacht loses it's mast it is unbearble. Tons of lead suspended metres below the hull whiplash the boat upright. Crews are always seasick in dismasts.

I saw a ship capsize in Tonga harbour while unloading containers with its own cranes. Obviously they got their loading schedules wrong :Oops:

[XF650]

The lack of CHCH riders attending is quite conspicious. Is it OK with you Nth Islanders if I extend a warm invitation to Sthn riders to join us for hijinks & gravel & mud?

I hope to be there, representing Mid Canterbury.

[Paladin]

........
if your balls get cold its because of those open backed leather chaps all DR riders wear...

Listen all you DR riders - this is not appropriate riding apparel for this trip



I promise to leave the chaps at home as long as I can still bring the cap to wear to the pub for evening meals!

:gob:

And you can save me a seat next to you mate!

:love:

[tri boy]

Hi guys,
Obviously I'm not on this ride, but I have a big favour to ask........
Could one of you motley buggars carry Pooey the Adv bird on the ferry, to the mainland?
I'm picking him up off Anthrax today, and hopefully passing onto Phreaky Phil this weekend when he is in Raglan.
If someone could liase with Phil after this Sunday, it would be cool. Might pay to mention your intention on Pooey's thread on Adv rider.
Cheers.

[XF650]

Sent you a PM Brent - we can get him to the Brass Monkey from Reefton

[Eddieb]

Any one of us could take him on the boat and had him over in Reefton. I'd be happy to. How do we get him here from you to us?

[tri boy]

Any one of us could take him on the boat and had him over in Reefton. I'd be happy to. How do we get him here from you to us?
Hi Eddie,
I will be hopefully leaving Pooey with phreaky phil this weekend, (not that he knows it yet:whistle:), and he should be able to liase with somebody to help get Pooey from New Plymouth to Wellywood.
really want pooey attending the Brass, so every effort will be made to get him on the boat with you guys.
Any keen riders who wish to help Phil early next week with Pooeys transport, please holla loud n proud.:rockon:

[junkmanjoe]

It could be possable to meet at bulls and escort pooey to welly. my be he like to visit the windmills at woodville and castlepoint vira wairarapa.
can meet a KB rider this weekend if thats any help.
be a honour to help pooey on his travels.
my ferry trip is a early one. hows pooey on early morns....not to grumpy i hope.

JMJ

[Phreaky Phil]

It could be possable to meet at bulls and escort pooey to welly. my be he like to visit the windmills at woodville and castlepoint vira wairarapa.
can meet a KB rider this weekend if thats any help.
be a honour to help pooey on his travels.
my ferry trip is a early one. hows pooey on early morns....not to grumpy i hope.

JMJLooks like i'm going to be showing Pooey round the Naki. It would be great if some one could meet us at Bulls one day on the weekend after this one and play "Pass thr Pooey"

[tri boy]

Sorry to high jack this thread guys.:bash:
I think the Invasion boys are shipping out on the evening of Thurs 21st, is that right?
Therefore someone needs to get Pooey to welly by Thurs morning, or he misses the boat:crybaby:
I'm doing some casual work next week, so I'm out, but some fine adventure type will step up and make us proud surely.
i'll leave it in Phils hands. Carry on, as you were.:yes:

[Eddieb]

Looks like i'm going to be showing Pooey round the Naki. It would be great if some one could meet us at Bulls one day on the weekend after this one and play "Pass thr Pooey"

The weekend after this one is the South Island invasion.

[marks]

For Joe

I'm just learning so comments welcome

Friday Route (http://www.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b081e1e86f80663&ll=-41.703678,172.966003&spn=1.531803,2.353821&z=9)

Saturday Route (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=-42.186303,172.00264&spn=0.38006,0.588455&z=11&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b0af2265c7f434b)

Sunday Route (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&ll=-41.290835,174.003696&spn=0.048174,0.073557&z=14&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b0c90a38d5ca850)

Everything is fairly loose and likely to be changed depending on how long we dick around etc

[Phreaky Phil]

The weekend after this one is the South Island invasion.Bugger, That makes it a bit tricky. We not home from Raglan till sunday arvo. Anyone fancy a ride to Raglan this weekend. ?

[NordieBoy]

Saturday Route (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=-42.186303,172.00264&spn=0.38006,0.588455&z=11&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b0af2265c7f434b)

On the afternoon ride can the track loop back to Capleston or is there really a break near the end of you mapping?

[junkmanjoe]

Looks like i'm going to be showing Pooey round the Naki. It would be great if some one could meet us at Bulls one day on the weekend after this one and play "Pass thr Pooey"

Phill.
best i can do for you is wednesday 20th.
as im traveling to welly this day, i can go around the block
and meet you at bulls.
other than that in not able to help pooey on his travels.
my ferry book in is thursday 1.25am.

thats best i can do
JMJ

[marks]

Bugger, That makes it a bit tricky. We not home from Raglan till sunday arvo. Anyone fancy a ride to Raglan this weekend. ?

place pooey in shredder
place shredded pooey in envelope
post envelope to Wgtn
we'll sellotape the remains back together (works with chickens)
and deliver to South Island

problem solved

[junkmanjoe]

For Joe

I'm just learning so comments welcome

Friday Route (http://www.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b081e1e86f80663&ll=-41.703678,172.966003&spn=1.531803,2.353821&z=9)

Saturday Route (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=-42.186303,172.00264&spn=0.38006,0.588455&z=11&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b0af2265c7f434b)

Sunday Route (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&ll=-41.290835,174.003696&spn=0.048174,0.073557&z=14&msid=115014652541516319537.000469b0c90a38d5ca850)

Everything is fairly loose and likely to be changed depending on how long we dick around etc

cheers mark.

just wanted an idea of whats what.

so ya think there be enough time on day two.
for a trip out to the coast or not.

[marks]

On the afternoon ride can the track loop back to Capleston or is there really a break near the end of you mapping?

We'll have to check that out - be awesome if it loops around

[junkmanjoe]

ohh my new -10deg sleepy bag is here.
is so nice.

you like......yes....:yes:

[marks]

so ya think there be enough time on day two.
for a trip out to the coast or not.

Doubtful
you could always give the afternoon ride a miss and head out to the coast if you want a look

[junkmanjoe]

oh i was just wondering.

[NordieBoy]

Gravel version of Howard to Brightwater (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=100530677279690765197.000469b171d798f94f0c2&ll=-41.541478,172.8685&spn=0.622892,1.51062&z=10).

Or are you going to be running out of time getting back to the Ferry?

[NordieBoy]

ohh my new -10deg sleepy bag is here.
is so nice.

you like......yes....:yes:

Fcuks sake man.

You dress like a KTM carrot and isn't that an XR400 on the bookshelf?

[junkmanjoe]

yup next to my visable V8 and rotary engine.
there some off my toys.... not for sale...ever..
ordered sleepy bag 2 weeks ago and they lost it in transit.
turned up to day.

[marks]

Gravel version of Howard to Brightwater (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=100530677279690765197.000469b171d798f94f0c2&ll=-41.541478,172.8685&spn=0.622892,1.51062&z=10).

Or are you going to be running out of time getting back to the Ferry?

I'm keen to ride the New Creek Rd to the River so I suspect time will be a biggy

have to be in Picton at 5 so might have will have to juggle route to suit

[marks]

KTM carrot

:yes: :yes: :yes:

[junkmanjoe]

oh well better buy a KTM adventure then... bugger...:scooter:

[buggsubique]

I'm with Joe. Reefton cabins should be fine. Would be surprised if there isn't adequate heating there.

Steve

zeRax and I wil book a cabin too, join yous fullas at the hard-mans club. edit: unless you wanna share a cabin and split costs? they sleep 5? either way - I'll PM you and Joe.

[JATZ]

Booked in @ the other place, not the cabins.Mrs Jatz'll join us on the sat afternoon

[NordieBoy]

zeRax and I wil book a cabin too, join yous fullas at the hard-mans club. edit: unless you wanna share a cabin and split costs? they sleep 5? either way - I'll PM you and Joe.

I'm in for a shared cabin and split costs....

[marks]

zeRax and I wil book a cabin too, join yous fullas at the hard-mans club. edit: unless you wanna share a cabin and split costs? they sleep 5? either way - I'll PM you and Joe.

there should be room for 3 in Joes KTM sleeping bag
stuff a cork up his arse as a precaution first

[junkmanjoe]

thought you be in the big house mate.

ive only got a 3 bed cabin, and have paladin and Eddieb bunked in with my self.

its around $17 per person, free showers..

bring it on.... im hanging out till the start....1.25AM thursday morn.........:gob:... furk thats early...:woohoo:

[junkmanjoe]

there should be room for 3 in Joes KTM sleeping bag
stuff a cork up his arse as a precaution first

right them farting words...
at least we not pussys to sleep in a old girls house.......

[MyGSXF]

ohh my new -10deg sleepy bag is here.
is so nice. you like......yes....:yes:

How much...?? :blip:

[JATZ]

at least we not pussys to sleep in a old girls house.......

You havn't actually seen the "cabins" have you ?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[junkmanjoe]

You havn't actually seen the "cabins" have you ?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

ummm plz dont scare me.....:shit: we have been disapointed before....

[junkmanjoe]

How much...?? :blip:

what me...... ohh, lots and lots. far too much for you..:wari:

[buggsubique]

I'm in for a shared cabin and split costs....

ack, have emailed the cabin lady...await reply - will call tomorrow if nothing by email. You me & zerax.

[MyGSXF]

what me...... ohh, lots and lots. far too much for you..:wari:

hook, line & sinker :dodge:

was referring to the cost of the sleeping bag...:Pokey:

:bleh:

[buggsubique]

do we need guns in reefton? I's never been there...but is there like banjo players and dudes living in huts in the woods?

[MyGSXF]

You me & zerax.

:gob:

Ooohhh...

:shifty:

can I watch.......??

:corn:

[buggsubique]

Yup, bring tequila and joes sleeping bag after you finish the cigarette.

[marks]

right them farting words...

I am not a man to be challenged lightly to a farting competition


at least we not pussys to sleep in a old girls house.......

I have no shame :yes:
this pussy likes a warm walk to the toilet at 2am
and I hate, absolutely hate, a cold breeze blowing through a shower stall while I'm trying to dry myself

so yeehah for old nurses :woohoo:

[JATZ]

do we need guns in reefton? I's never been there...but is there like banjo players and dudes living in huts in the woods?

Nah mate, they're quite friendly and hospitable. Just don't make any sudden movements or loud noises

[junkmanjoe]

fart i might need that cork marks. the locals will hear me.
hunt me down,and get on the piss with us.....:blink:
he looks like my granddad..:shit:

[MyGSXF]

Yup

woohoo!! :wari:



bring tequila and joes sleeping bag after you finish the cigarette.

Do you still want Joe in it....... & then there was 4... :grouphug:

[junkmanjoe]

hay fluk off, my sheep will get cold...
barrbabra is cuming as well.....:wari::wari::woohoo:

[junkmanjoe]

I have no shame :yes:
this pussy likes a warm walk to the toilet at 2am
and I hate, absolutely hate, a cold breeze blowing through a shower stall while I'm trying to dry myself

so yeehah for old nurses :woohoo:

do you have to get up and emty your piss bag, ya old man.
so thats why you staying in a nurses home......:shutup:

[NordieBoy]

You me & zerax.


Zerax is only a little'un. He could curl up on the mat by the door :shutup:

[Paladin]

I don't know, I disappear for a few hours sortin out the virus/trojan infested computer that is my mothers laptop and this place goes all to hell: farting, orgies in a KTM sleeping bag, piss bag insults, blow up sheep ............ I'm obviously way too sensible to be hanging out with you mongrels!

NOT!!!!!

:devil2:

[junkmanjoe]

fuk that sounds so funny....

[marks]

I have updated the first post to include route maps showing recent changes

[junkmanjoe]

cheers mate u da man :first:

[XF650]

hay fluk off, my sheep will get cold...
barrbabra is cuming as well.....:wari::wari::woohoo:

I was on a farm at Tarras today where they were artificially inseminating sheep. Joe would have been right in his element.......

[Paladin]

I was on a farm at Tarras today where they were artificially inseminating sheep. Joe would have been right in his element.......

Don't be givin him ideas, I gotta share a cabin with him for 3 nites!!!!

Ewwwwww!!!

(exactly LOL!)

;)

[junkmanjoe]

at least im getting a bit.....:devil2:

[Paladin]

at least im getting a bit.....:devil2:

I had a bit recently, it was a bit dodgy & put me off for a while!

;)

Hopefully I don't need any....

:doctor:

[junkmanjoe]

Hmmmmm no comment... :baby:

[Paladin]

Hmmmmm no comment... :baby:

HAHA! Was only kiddin mate! To be honest, that area is so lacking, I'm thinking of becoming a monk! Black robes flowing in the wind atop the Black Beastie DR!!!!!
(the breeze up the robes could be a tad challenging this time of year tho!!!!)


On a serious note: Paid for my ferry ticket this morning!!!!!!!!
Bring it on!!!!!

:woohoo:

[Woodman]

HAHA! Was only kiddin mate! To be honest, that area is so lacking, I'm thinking of becoming a monk! Black robes flowing in the wind atop the Black Beastie DR!!!!!
(the breeze up the robes could be a tad challenging this time of year tho!!!!)


On a serious note: Paid for my ferry ticket this morning!!!!!!!!
Bring it on!!!!!

:woohoo:

seeing as how you ride a dr the chicks probarbly think you not interested.

[Paladin]

seeing as how you ride a dr the chicks probarbly think you not interested.

:gob:

I refer you to my previous Toppys waitress challenge that a certain KLR owner didn't have the balls to take up!!

:shutup:

;)

[buggsubique]

Oh hell, after a day like today BRING ON NEXT WEEKEND!!! Hanging out for it - fucking off on the bike with a bunch of good dudes / chicks, talking shit, perving at bikes, talking shit, riding, talking shit...riding. Will be mint!

yes, i had a shit day "at the office". time for another red.

[Paladin]

Oh hell, after a day like today BRING ON NEXT WEEKEND!!! Hanging out for it - fucking off on the bike with a bunch of good dudes / chicks, talking shit, perving at bikes, talking shit, riding, talking shit...riding. Will be mint!

yes, i had a shit day "at the office". time for another red.

Don't forget you're riding with me & Marks - so you better add in:

"talkin shit while drinkin latte's"

:rofl:

Lookin forward to meetin you nutters for the first time!
(even the KLR riders ;) )

And riding in the awesome countryside that is your back yard!

:woohoo:

[bart]

Yeah, I had a pretty average day at the office also. Can't wait.

Picked up a new front tyre today. Don't even know what it is. Better go and have a look. It was cheeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppp, like a budgee.

Priced out a TKC80 and just about fell over backwards ($210ish..............for a front). The guy in the shop said he had a hardly used adventure tyre out the back he'd sell me for $50, so I grabbed it.

[buggsubique]

yeah, its good when that happens - I planned on saving my MT21 on the DB1k and putting on a crap cheap ass knobblie but in the end I ran the MT21 into the ground and saved the knobblie for afterwards - it was a mint rear tyre for like $80. hankook rallycross or some shit. but yeah, cheap and good. ps mt21's one the rear suck arse.

[pete376403]

Re cheap front tyres - I got a Vee-rubber 3.00x21 model is v221 or 51P (there are a few different numbers on the sidewall). IIRC it was $70 or so from TSS and it's really good on the road and nearly as good on gravel. No noticeable wear after 2000 km.

[buggsubique]

ha, this thread has gone so off topic...riding to driving boats, to orgies and sleepingbags to tyres. :wari:

I'm running a vee rubber up front on the africa and it's bloody good. I ran a vee rubber rear on the DRZ though and it was fucken suicidal! no grip under throttle and no grip under breaking. even less grip in corners.,...it was cheap...but too cheap!

[Eddieb]

I'm running vee rubbers also. just put a 163 back on the front of the PD, has about 10000km and hardly looks worn $100. The R80 has some seriously knobbly Vee rubber, road legal but it must be only just. Thats lasting well though also and has been a good tyre and was only $60, both brand new.

Were average on the back though, disappeared as quick as a TKC 80 and was average grip.

E09's rock on the back. Have them fitted to both bikes.

[NordieBoy]

CrazyFrog is still? running the front non-DOT knobblie on the DRZ that I used on the Dusty :D

[buggsubique]

CrazyFrog is still? running the front non-DOT knobblie on the DRZ that I used on the Dusty :D

pretty sure that tyre looked fucked last time I saw it...up mt pat! I'm running a golden boy equivalent on the back of the africa now - its a Kenda chingquangpow somethingorother and it's fucken sweet - better than an MT21 t'be sure.

[bart]

pretty sure that tyre looked fucked last time I saw it...up mt pat! I'm running a golden boy equivalent on the back of the africa now - its a Kenda chingquangpow somethingorother and it's fucken sweet - better than an MT21 t'be sure.

Haha, just had a look. It's a Golden Boy Trail Tire SR244 (yep.........spelt like that). Looks like it'll be shit in the wet, but hey, I like a challenge.:scooter:

:Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::done:

[buggsubique]

haha, yeah That's the same one I think. Great on road & gravel - I dare say diabolical in the slippery stuff. Shinko also do one. Must woll out of dha saime factwy in china...

:Offtopic: :Offtopic: :Offtopic: :Offtopic: :Offtopic: sue me :yes:

[junkmanjoe]

Bart

Golden Boy.............that be a lie aye mate..... hows that new bike looking.
oh i need some cheap new carpet as well,,think a couple rolls could fall off the truck,

[Woodman]

Ok nelson guys what is the plan for the Friday morning??
Do yous wanna meet somewhere in Richmond, possibly Mobil or somewhere, and ride to St Arnaud together.

What time do you wanna leave considering we are sposed to collide with the NI guys at about 10.30ish???

[junkmanjoe]

Clash off the island..............WWF style ....

[bart]

Bart

Golden Boy.............that be a lie aye mate..... hows that new bike looking.
oh i need some cheap new carpet as well,,think a couple rolls could fall off the truck,

I've been called a lot of things, but never a golden boy.

New bike will have to wait. Won't get much riding in over winter so might as well wait until spring. Poor little DRZ's going to get a thrashing on the invasion. I'll have to treat it nicely (yeah right). :scooter:

I don't even see the carpet at my end of the business. I could get you some pretty coloured wool though.

[junkmanjoe]

what ur plans trailer bike to where, welly some where.

[bart]

what ur plans trailer bike to where, welly some where.

Yeah. Trailer to Welly (more because of the late trip home on Sunday night. I think I'll be over riding by the time I get back to Welly). Cost about $10 a day to park car at terminal. Wheel bike off trailer and onto ferry. Don't even have to kit up. :wari:

Just found out I've got a meeting in Christchurch on the Wednesday. :shifty:

[Eddieb]

Yeah. Trailer to Welly (more because of the late trip home on Sunday night. I think I'll be over riding by the time I get back to Welly). Cost about $10 a day to park car at terminal. Wheel bike off trailer and onto ferry. Don't even have to kit up. :wari:

Just found out I've got a meeting in Christchurch on the Wednesday. :shifty:

mate, you could park the car at my place for free if the trailer isn't long (Short driveway). 10 minutes in a straight line on the motorway to the terminal. You literally turn off the end of my street onto the motorway.

[Box'a'bits]

Yeah. Trailer to Welly (more because of the late trip home on Sunday night. I think I'll be over riding by the time I get back to Welly). Cost about $10 a day to park car at terminal. Wheel bike off trailer and onto ferry. Don't even have to kit up. :wari:

Just found out I've got a meeting in Christchurch on the Wednesday. :shifty:

Bart, why don't you drop the car & trailer round here (Johnsonville) then ride down to the terminal. Won't be in the way - won't be any drivers here for the next 3 days!!!

Steve

[NordieBoy]

I love the SR244 Shinko/Golden Boy rears.
Very smooth, no surprises tyre.

Fine in the snow up Altimarloch, good in gravel, good on seal, good in the wet...

Lets go when leaned over on the gas, but nicely.

[bart]

mate, you could park the car at my place for free if the trailer isn't long (Short driveway). 10 minutes in a straight line on the motorway to the terminal. You literally turn off the end of my street onto the motorway.


Bart, why don't you drop the car & trailer round here (Johnsonville) then ride down to the terminal. Won't be in the way - won't be any drivers here for the next 3 days!!!

Steve

Thanks guys. I'll have a think about it. Big car, small trailer.

[junkmanjoe]

you could put the trailer in the boot to save space.

[NordieBoy]

Ok nelson guys what is the plan for the Friday morning??
Do yous wanna meet somewhere in Richmond, possibly Mobil or somewhere, and ride to St Arnaud together.

What time do you wanna leave considering we are sposed to collide with the NI guys at about 10.30ish???

Could go out via Dove Hill, Sunday Creek, Sherry River, Dry Weather Road, Kawatiri...

134km 3-4 hours...

[Woodman]

Could go out via Dove Hill, Sunday Creek, Sherry River, Dry Weather Road, Kawatiri...

134km 3-4 hours...

We could indeed. do you mean we could meet up with ni guys at the Howard ? or go into st arnaud?

[NordieBoy]

We could indeed. do you mean we could meet up with ni guys at the Howard ? or go into st arnaud?

118km to the Howard.

16 extra km to St Arnaud and coffee.

Or straight up on the seal...
83km over the Spooners, Korere, Kikiwa...
1hr 8min...

[junkmanjoe]

ill catch up with you nordieboy thursday arfo okies.

[JATZ]

Just got in from work now, and probly working next thursday too, soooooo I 'll have a late start and probly catch up somewhere between here and there

[NordieBoy]

No okies down here. They're on the West Coast.

[warewolf]

I got a Vee-rubber 3.00x21 model is v221 or 51PIt'll be a 221. 51P is the load & speed rating.

[Eddieb]

Well bugger.

Both bikes are now out of action.

The PD is in bits pending installation of a new front driveshaft boot, hopefully I can get that done this weekend. I also have new jets, jet needles & Ventura racks but they all might have to wait till after the south island trip.

I wheeled the G/S out this morning to ride to work. Start her up and all's good. After 30 seconds she stalls but thats ok, it's cold out and she's still cold and the choke was off.
I hit the button again and she winds over happily but there's no firing, not from either cylinder, not a cough. The gas tank is full as I filled it up last night. I jiggle the wires, pull the plug caps and re attach but all to no avail. All the other electrics are working fine.

Eventually the battery went flat and it was off to the train station for me.

Bugger.

[Underground]

118km to the Howard.

16 extra km to St Arnaud and coffee.

Or straight up on the seal...
83km over the Spooners, Korere, Kikiwa...
1hr 8min...

Dont leave too early ,Im coming through over the Maungatapu (takes 2.5 hours from here) I cant be fooked with the mind numbing ride up the Wairau with the NI faggots :bleh:
One of them must have been in touch with the weather gods though cause it looks sweeet so far , fine ,light winds for thurs fri sat sun :niceone:

[buggsubique]

I wheeled the G/S out this morning to ride to work. Start her up and all's good. After 30 seconds she stalls but thats ok, it's cold out and she's still cold and the choke was off.
I hit the button again and she winds over happily but there's no firing, not from either cylinder, not a cough. The gas tank is full as I filled it up last night. I jiggle the wires, pull the plug caps and re attach but all to no avail. All the other electrics are working fine.

Eventually the battery went flat and it was off to the train station for me.

Bugger.

pickup coil? CDI?

[XF650]

Booked my bed @ Reefton - do we get a nurse each?

[buggsubique]

yeah, but they're about 65-70 years old - hence the name :doh:

[NordieBoy]

ack, have emailed the cabin lady...await reply - will call tomorrow if nothing by email. You me & zerax.

So you've got a cabin OK?

[buggsubique]

yeah I did sorry shoulda pm'd. Think she said $15/night p/p. Need own sleepingbag, towel, not self contained, chuck in the jandals etc.

[junkmanjoe]

new taps fitted to the safari.
heres hopeing weather plays a good game with us.

hate to see dave sea sick, feeding the fish.:puke:

[Paladin]

new taps fitted to the safari.
heres hopeing weather plays a good game with us.

hate to see dave sea sick, feeding the fish.:puke:

I have anti-sea sickness tablets so there'll be none of that! (I hope LOL!)
:msn-wink:

My new Riser bolt arrived from Suzuki Japan today so the damaged one can now be replaced!

:niceone:

[Eddieb]

I have anti-sea sickness tablets so there'll be none of that! (I hope LOL!)
:msn-wink:

My new Riser bolt arrived from Suzuki Japan today so the damaged one can now be replaced!

:niceone:

sweet. Might be a bit of a garage session my place tomorrow afternoon if your interested.

[Paladin]

sweet. Might be a bit of a garage session my place tomorrow afternoon if your interested.

Actually that sounds like a good plan mate! Cheers!

[Woodman]

118km to the Howard.

16 extra km to St Arnaud and coffee.

Or straight up on the seal...
83km over the Spooners, Korere, Kikiwa...
1hr 8min...

Sounds good, but will wait and see what the ni guys are doing (refer nelson rideouts)

Dont leave too early ,Im coming through over the Maungatapu (takes 2.5 hours from here) I cant be fooked with the mind numbing ride up the Wairau with the NI faggots :bleh:
One of them must have been in touch with the weather gods though cause it looks sweeet so far , fine ,light winds for thurs fri sat sun :niceone:

As above, you can all congregate here at my place(Richmond) if yous want.

Booked my bed @ Reefton - do we get a nurse each?

An old nurse sounds better than staying with the camp guys.

[junkmanjoe]

hi eddieb i try and get there around 12 ish, it may be windy on the hill.

will see how weather is.

pooey hanging out to meet ya.

[NordieBoy]

yeah I did sorry shoulda pm'd. Think she said $15/night p/p. Need own sleepingbag, towel, not self contained, chuck in the jandals etc.

No need for me to book then if you've already got the cabin?

[andy mac]

Work has suggested I start using some accumlated annual leave so have decided to join Dave & Joe's explore around Picton on Thursday. But since I get grumpy if I miss my beauty sleep I will be travelling on the Wednesday 6:25pm sailing. Will bunk down in the motorcamp which will allow us to stash our gear for the exploration.

[sinfull]

Hi ya guys, just though i'd stick me nose in here and mention a thread i started
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99276&highlight=ferry
BMWST kindly suggested he might like to hook up with you fellas when ya head south, so i passed his cell number on to him, to forward to someone who's going on the trip !
Not 100% sure where he stands as in timing goes to meet up, but i'm sure he'd appreciate the opportunity !
Cheers Bill

[buggsubique]

No need for me to book then if you've already got the cabin?

booked under our 3 names - just turn up

[junkmanjoe]

not long now and looks like we might even get some sun shine.....
bring it on...

[marks]

As the group size is getting towards the largish end of things what do you guys think of using the cornerman system (https://secure.ktmtours.com.au/tours/cornerman.htm) for all 'non tar seal' bits?

I'm presuming that everyone will have maps and can find their own way to places like St Arnaud/Reefton/Nelson/Picton so on the sealed sections we could get by with infrequent regroups.

your thoughts?

[Woodman]

As the group size is getting towards the largish end of things what do you guys think of using the cornerman system (https://secure.ktmtours.com.au/tours/cornerman.htm) for all 'non tar seal' bits?

I'm presuming that everyone will have maps and can find their own way to places like St Arnaud/Reefton/Nelson/Picton so on the sealed sections we could get by with infrequent regroups.

your thoughts?

Sounds like a great idea. What is the cornerman system? Edit just saw the linky

[junkmanjoe]

you have a group lead bike. who should know where he is going.

every time he turns at a turn off on road, next bike behind waits on the turn off to show which way to go, he then rejoins the group when he see tail end charlie.

mark if you like to do this, i nominate my self as tail end charlie.

is a good way to keep the group rolling....

[Balrog]

I don't think they need to wait until the tail end Charlie comes along.
You just need to make sure the person behind you knows where to go.
If they can't see the person behind them, then they wait until they are sure the next person knows where to go.

Combine that with regular group catch ups and everything should be sweet.

Just my 10cents worth.

P.S
sounds a bit grim, but I think we all should have an ICE (In case of emergency ) number flagged in our cell phones.
Makes it a lot easier to contact the right people if something unfortunate happens.

[marks]

mark if you like to do this, i nominate my self as tail end charlie.

is a good way to keep the group rolling....

Thats very generous of you Jo - thanks

While no one is supposed to pass the lead rider (I suppose that would be me - and I aint no rocket ship) I suspect if people know where they are going then its fine if they head off into the distance and just wait when they aren't sure where to go next (and if they get lost then fookem)

anyone think this is a bad idea????

[NordieBoy]

I suspect if people know where they are going then its fine if they head off into the distance and just wait when they aren't sure where to go next (and if they get lost then fookem)

anyone think this is a bad idea????

If something looks dodgy then wait for others with cameras before attempting.

Simple really.

[Balrog]

If something looks dodgy then wait for others with cameras before attempting.

Simple really.

Don't you mean
Wait for the others to arrive after making sure dodgy bit is in focus?
:devil2:

[junkmanjoe]

ya know me, easy as a whore with a hand full of money,
ill just go with the flow and follow the white line...:chase:

repaired new fuel tap.....
fitted new brake pads and added a second tool container.
thnk its nearly ready to go....

[marks]

I don't think they need to wait until the tail end Charlie comes along.
You just need to make sure the person behind you knows where to go.
If they can't see the person behind them, then they wait until they are sure the next person knows where to go.

Combine that with regular group catch ups and everything should be sweet.

Just my 10cents worth.

P.S
sounds a bit grim, but I think we all should have an ICE (In case of emergency ) number flagged in our cell phones.
Makes it a lot easier to contact the right people if something unfortunate happens.

If everyone understands the rules your suggestion is certainly easier as it looks after itself and doesn't require anyone to always be tail end charlie.

when you mean an ICE number - do you mean wife/partner etc?

[Balrog]

I..
when you mean an ICE number - do you mean wife/partner etc?

That's right,
I saw a post about doing that on this site a while ago and thought it was a good idea.

[warewolf]

I don't think they need to wait until the tail end Charlie comes along.
You just need to make sure the person behind you knows where to go.
If they can't see the person behind them, then they wait until they are sure the next person knows where to go.The problem is that this system less disciplined and in practice less effective than the cornerman system. The single biggest issue is that the last rider in a faster bunch of friends has to wait for the next slowest group to arrive... typically they get impatient/lonely and leave their post. Doesn't happen so much in adv riding but it still happens all too often. I know road/adv riders don't seem to like the cornerman system, usually 'cos they don't want to be separated from their immediate mates, but it works very well for trail/adv rides with larger numbers of disparate people.

With the cornerman system, you only have to recognise 2 bikes, lead & tail, which don't change. Position within the group is unimportant and overtaking never a problem. If they wish faster riders can move through the group, then be dropped at a corner, then move through the group again. Steady riders can just sit in the middle of the group, and never stop as long as they never become 2nd bike.

When you have gates that require closing, they become a 'corner' and there is no confusion about should-it-be-closed-shouldn't-it, because the cornerman would have either seen the lead rider open it, or be told when he caught up and got dropped on the 'corner' by the lead rider.

Even with maps & directions & most ppl knowing mostly where to go, the whole point of either system is to stop ppl falling through the cracks, for various reasons. So if a system is going to be used, it should be as reliable as we can make it.

[warewolf]

when you mean an ICE number - do you mean wife/partner etc?Yes, google it, it is not a specific m/c thing but came from the London bombings(?) a few years ago. You can use ICE, ICE2, ICE3 for multiple people in order of preference.

[junkmanjoe]

im in vavor off the corrner man.
it worked ok on the KCR. as i sat at the back off the group and didnt have to stop all weekend....sweet.

im still happy to go at the back, and herd up the lost sheep.....:chase:

i know from the KCR there are 3 groups of riders.
faster ones want to be up front.if they end at the back they just pass ya to get back up front again.

the cruzzers in the middle in no hurry but still want to get there.

then the take it easy riders at the back.

but then ya can get speeders on the seal, but there not to fast on gravel,

just thinking with the key board.

JMJ

[BMWST?]

its got nothing to do with me i spose but i think i would apppreciate the corner man system.The problem with the "next one stops" system is the whole group gets more and more spread out as everyone has to stop and restart and the slower guys all end up together down the back .Whatever system is used EVERYBODY has to know how it works.
ICE= in case of emergency
I really really hope(if fact i know that) you will guys have an awesome time !

[Box'a'bits]

I agree with Joe & Warewolf. The cornerman system worked very well at the KCAR. Basically it means that the overall group keeps a reasonable speed - there isn't a need for constant regrouping, and no one gets left off the back of the group (& potentially lost). It also means that if the leader & tail end charlie have cell phone contact, there is no confusion if there is an accident or breakdown. Keen to see it on this ride.

Cheers

Steve

[bart]

I'm not a huge fan of the cornerman. From my experiences with it, it encourages people to overtake, as the faster riders always end up at the back. Some overtaking manouvres I've seen while adventure riding have been down right dangerous. :eek:

Not saying I'm an angel, and I probably take more risks than most, but I generally try to spend as little time as possible in the right hand lane, (growing up in the country, on narrow gravel roads, where every second vehicle was a stock truck, I learnt to always have a plan 'B', which usually involved the left hand ditch).

I'm easy for this ride though, as I don't know the area, so will be taking it quietly.

Rant over. :niceone:

[Eddieb]

Hey Mark

How rough is this going to be? Just wondering whether I pack everything in a soft bag or whether I can use my hard luggage without rattling it to pieces.

[marks]

Hey Mark

How rough is this going to be? Just wondering whether I pack everything in a soft bag or whether I am use my hard luggage without rattling it to pieces.

soft bag :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[BMWST?]

would this be suitable for a B.A.B on a big bike?? r100 gs or r11gs or similar


yup


Hey Mark

How rough is this going to be? Just wondering whether I pack everything in a soft bag or whether I can use my hard luggage without rattling it to pieces.


soft bag :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

something doesnt add up here:confused:

[marks]

something doesnt add up here:confused:

I lied.......:yes:

perhaps I should elaborate - we will hopefully doing the following in the following order:
Porika - moderate 4wd track with one nasty downhill bit which maybe those with roady tires or limited experience (or sore backs) should bypass
Breaburn - Matakitaki Rd - Maruia Saddle - West bank Rd - all a piece of piss
Big River - moderate 4wd - should be ok for everyone
Waitahu River - knarlier 4wd - which maybe those with roady tires or limited experience should bypass
The New Creek track - moderate 4wd - should be doable by all except maybe the last bit down to the river

I ripped my footpegs off last time on Big River and Waitahu River - they have a few bumpy bit that would reduce eddies old hard bags to dust :eek:

[Paladin]

I don't think they need to wait until the tail end Charlie comes along.
You just need to make sure the person behind you knows where to go.
If they can't see the person behind them, then they wait until they are sure the next person knows where to go.

Combine that with regular group catch ups and everything should be sweet.

Just my 10cents worth.




I'm not a huge fan of the cornerman. From my experiences with it, it encourages people to overtake, as the faster riders always end up at the back. Some overtaking manouvres I've seen while adventure riding have been down right dangerous. :eek:

Not saying I'm an angel, and I probably take more risks than most, but I generally try to spend as little time as possible in the right hand lane, (growing up in the country, on narrow gravel roads, where every second vehicle was a stock truck, I learnt to always have a plan 'B', which usually involved the left hand ditch).

I'm easy for this ride though, as I don't know the area, so will be taking it quietly.

Rant over. :niceone:

I'm with Jim & Bart on this. I don't see the need for a full cornerman system either. Many, if not most of us will have a map. As Joe said the guys coming over from the NI have all ridden enough together to know who the fast/cruisey/steady guys are. This isn't a one day ride; we have the evening before hand for each day's ride to talk about the next day and where we could have major regroup points as Jim suggested, or do it at brekky on the day!!!

I think Joe is pretty much planning on being tail end charlie whatever, and I don't have any choice but to take things easy cos of my back, so we'll be cruisin along takin it all in bringin up the rear I'd guess!

Chill!! It'll all be fine!!! We're gonna have a great time riding, takin in the scenery and meetin our SI brethren! And the long range weather forecast on metvuw is startin to look pretty good for us too!!!

:2thumbsup

[Padmei]

I'm a fan of using the cornerman system. On the dustybutt we had a loose one that didn't work at all times. I personally like the thought that someone's waiting to make sure the group is together & taken the right way. No use having a sweep if someone has taken the wrong turn along the way. If the cornerman counts the group going along we know if someone is missing.

[junkmanjoe]

we had a tail end charlie on the KCR worked well.

so im keen on takeing the tail.
make sure no one is left behind or gets lost.

vote for corner man......1 for me

[bart]

Even though I'm not a fan, it does work with larger groups (10+).

Half a vote for me.

[Box'a'bits]

we had a tail end charlie on the KCR worked well.

so im keen on takeing the tail.
make sure no one is left behind or gets lost.

vote for corner man......1 for me

I think the vote is split between those that did the KCAR ride & those that didn't.

On the KCAR ride we had a large group, with riders of varying abilities. The overall pace of the ride was reasonably quick, given the ground we had to cover. I know I had no clue where we were about 1/2 the time. W/O the corner-man system we would have lost people through out the day, which in itself would have caused delays.

My vote is for this system that works very well in large groups.

Steve

[Padmei]

Half a vote for me.

Talk about sitting on the fence

[Transalper]

... It also means that if the leader & tail end charlie have cell phone contact, there is no confusion if there is an accident or breakdown.....
Cell coverage will be patchy at best where you guys are going.

I'm considering grabbing a bike and nipping up to Reefton Friday night for Big River Saturday.

[marks]

Cell coverage will be patchy at best where you guys are going.

we've got good loud voices

[junkmanjoe]

but we wont hear crap over your free flow pipe....:bleh:

[Woodman]

Cell coverage will be patchy at best where you guys are going.

I'm considering grabbing a bike and nipping up to Reefton Friday night for Big River Saturday.

last time I was up big river I got a call from work and it was clear as a bell. That was telecom, and it was on a high part of the ride.

Cornerman sounds ok to me, as long as I am not tail end charlie. Do not follow well.

[bart]

Talk about sitting on the fence

Thats why my arse has got a crack down the middle :bleh:

[Woodman]

Thats why my arse has got a crack down the middle :bleh:

Fence? DRZ seat?? Is there a difference?

[bart]

Fence? DRZ seat?? Is there a difference?

Hahaha, good call.:msn-wink:

[andy mac]

I vote for the Cornerman system, it just works.

Knowing that Joe will be Tail End Charlie means you can chill on your corner until you see his smiling mug.

Much better than tryng to guestimate was that no. 13 or 15 bike going past while you're having a piss? Must have been 15 cause no-one could be this far behind so I'm off. Unless they also stopped for a piss, put a jacket on etc.

And polite overtaking is the norm - but no 15 inch roosts :bleh:

[Paladin]

Hey, I'll go with the flow - some of you guys have done a helluva lot more large group rides than I have and I respect your experience, so whatever you reckon is fine by me!

:niceone:

[Padmei]

Do not follow well.

LOL I...ahem...don't lead too well:chase:

[NordieBoy]

Padmei needs a bit of string tied to the bike in front.

Even that's not enough sometimes...

[marks]

I'm considering grabbing a bike and nipping up to Reefton Friday night for Big River Saturday.

be great if you can make it

[Pampera]

I lied.......:yes:

Porika - moderate 4wd track with one nasty downhill bit which maybe those with roady tires or limited experience (or sore backs) should bypass



Note that when I traversed this,downhill and two up on my Dakar 650 in late 2007, we just got off and I walked the bike down the hard bit in first gear with the engine off. Anybody with concerns should remember this is always an option for difficult downhills, you don't have to be a "hero" and ride it down. I am certainly not and I use this approach a lot, even on the Pampera sometimes. The rest of the Porika Track is straightforward with great views and the loop is well worth doing.

Michael

[marks]

Talk about stir up a hornets nest

How about this as a compromise:
Everyone is expected to have a map or know the route
Joe will be tail end charlie at all times (say if you are not happy with that Joe)

Picton to St Arnaud - open slather - leave in a group at 8 but go at your own speed/time - going to leave St Arnaud at 11 regardless if you are there or not so get there in time to have coffe and get gas etc.

Regroup at Howard Valley Rd turnoff from sh63 and run cornerman system till Springs Junction with regroups at Lake Rotoroa foreshore, Murchsion for lunch, Beginning of Maruia Saddle Rd and Springs Junction (coffee).

open slather - from Springs Junction to Reefton via sh7
open slather - with sensible regroups for Big River/Waitahu River (hard to get lost and only a few km's of road bits)

open slather - up hw63 and sh6 to New Creek Rd (just make sure you turn left immediately after the first bridge you cross after (about 20k?) Inangahua Junction where we regroup and start cornerman system while on track.

so basically if its all sealed road its open slather and if its off the beaten track its the cornerman system

anyone is welcome to pass me (your highly esteemed leader) at any time (I'm not quick and don't want to cramp anyone's style)

does this sound reasonable

[andy mac]

Note that when I traversed this,downhill and two up on my Dakar 650 in late 2007, we just got off and I walked the bike down the hard bit in first gear with the engine off.
Michael

Michael, what bike are you using this weekend?

[MXNUT]

W/O the corner-man system we would have lost people through out the day, which in itself would have caused delays.

My vote is for this system that works very well in large groups.

Steve

My 2 cents worth ....... I used the corner man system on the KCAR because it had worked so well on other rides i had been on.

On the KCAR we had 26 riders with differing abilities.As has been said this system allows everyone to ride at their own pace and the group as a whole to cover more distance without lots of stops and waiting around, and if everyone uses the system properly no one can get lost.

It also provides a back up if someone has a puncture / breakdown / accident as the tail end charlie can be in contact with the ride leader to halt the rest of the group if required.

Anyway that my rave over with...................
Hope you guys have an awesome trip and the weather is kind to you :niceone:

[Paladin]

Talk about stir up a hornets nest

How about this as a compromise:
Everyone is expected to have a map or know the route
Joe will be tail end charlie at all times (say if you are not happy with that Joe)

Picton to St Arnaud - open slather - leave in a group at 8 but go at your own speed/time - going to leave St Arnaud at 11 regardless if you are there or not so get there in time to have coffe and get gas etc.

Regroup at Howard Valley Rd turnoff from sh63 and run cornerman system till Springs Junction with regroups at Lake Rotoroa foreshore, Murchsion for lunch, Beginning of Maruia Saddle Rd and Springs Junction (coffee).

open slather - from Springs Junction to Reefton via sh7
open slather - with sensible regroups for Big River/Waitahu River (hard to get lost and only a few km's of road bits)

open slather - up hw63 and sh6 to New Creek Rd (just make sure you turn left immediately after the first bridge you cross after (about 20k?) Inangahua Junction where we regroup and start cornerman system while on track.

so basically if its all sealed road its open slather and if its off the beaten track its the cornerman system

anyone is welcome to pass me (your highly esteemed leader) at any time (I'm not quick and don't want to cramp anyone's style)

does this sound reasonable

all sounds damn sensible to me Mark!

:niceone:

[warewolf]

marks, sounds like a good compromise.

[Pampera]

Michael, what bike are you using this weekend?

Suzuki DR350. Saturday and Sunday may have some challenges and I don't want to have to skip these because I am on a 192 kg bike and don't wish to damage it or myself. My 2001 Dakar did 6 1/2 years of Adventure rides, with many offs. My 2007 one is still pretty shiny and I don't really want to be faced with taking it to a place beyond my confidence on Saturday. While I have been doing this for a long time, you could politely describe my approach as "cautious".

Stand by my comments about Porika though. It is a great diversion but has a washed out rough downhill road in one place, which can be walked, so nobody should be put off.

I did consider the Pampera for a bit of a laugh, but the road bit would have got VERY tedious! Wairau Valley at 75 km/h and even this seeming too fast!

Michael

[warewolf]

Which Pampera? The 250 I rode a few times would do well over 100km/h quite happily on the beach, which saps power. Great bike, except for the forks. Everything my DR-Z250 did, the Pampera did better. Speed & performance wouldn't be an issue, but comfort might.

[junkmanjoe]

joes says he is happy at the bum off the trail....:eek:

[Pampera]

Which Pampera? The 250 I rode a few times would do well over 100km/h quite happily on the beach, which saps power. Great bike, except for the forks. Everything my DR-Z250 did, the Pampera did better. Speed & performance wouldn't be an issue, but comfort might.

It is a 2003 250 I bought new. It will indeed reach a speed of 100 km/h but extended operation at such a speed will inevitably lead to serious engine damage (seizure). This was regularly reported back when these bikes were new enough to have a following on the internet. Vibration at 80 km/h is OK but seeps into your anatomy above this speed.

This bike is unique in my experience, now irreplaceable and not that easy to get parts for, hence I operate it with care and generally only when its unique abilities are required.

Michael

[marks]

joes says he is happy at the bum off the trail....:eek:

Joe should be shouted many alcoholic beverages for his generosity

And Michael's idea of walking (or bulldogging) down the nasty south end of the Porika is a good one. The nasty bit is only 100-200m long and the rest of that track is just brilliant

[cooneyr]

.....open slather - up hw63 and sh6 to New Creek Rd (just make sure you turn left immediately after the first bridge you cross after (about 20k?) Inangahua Junction where we regroup and start cornerman system while on track.....

One of my estemed collegues has just finished a project installing a set of fancy traffic signals on this bridge. This will be the only set of permanent traffic signals you will find once you leave the bright lights of Blenhiem till you reach Nelson as they are one of the first two sets of permanent traffic signals on the coast (the other set is at Fern Arch in the lower Buller) Turn very hard left immediatly as you go off the end of the bridge i.e. slow right down on the bridge.

Would like to join you guys but we are living on rice and water for the next while :msn-wink:

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

The original DB1k route goes both ways over the Porika. If you stand on the pegs and use a bit of due care it really isn't that bad. Balrog has riden his R1150GSA over and both my Bro and myself have ridden our XTZ750's over it (both ways) with no problems.

Nobody should be put off doing this track.

Cheers R

[andy mac]

This will be the only set of permanent traffic signals you will find once you leave the bright lights of Blenhiem till you reach Nelson Cheers R

Traffic lights? Jees I thought we were tough ADV riders going deep bush. Oh well, no excuses for missing this turn-off. :doh:

[andy mac]

Underground - I received your spare sprocket retainer in the post. Cheers mate.

Cooneyr - shame you can't join us but perhaps if us Northeners are well behaved we might be allowed back for the Dusty Butt?

[warewolf]

And Michael's idea of walking (or bulldogging) down the nasty south end of the Porika is a good one. The nasty bit is only 100-200m long and the rest of that track is just brilliantNot sure which bit you mean?

Another useful trick for snotty situations is to kill the engine, use your feet as outriggers and the clutch as a hand-operated rear brake. That way you can pick your feet up, pull the clutch and roll out of trouble if need be.

[marks]

Not sure which bit you mean?

the middle bit of the descent down to Lake Rotoroa - from the corner with the awesome view of the lake down to a few hundred m from the lake.

I'm not saying this bit will be a problem to experienced riders but people of more limited experience need at least to be aware of it prior to doing it.

hopefully no ice this time :no:

http://webcoda.com/images/bike/SDC10283.JPG

[warewolf]

ah the condition of that bit varies tremendously. That looks pretty smooth, but maybe the ice is hiding the crap!!

[Eddieb]

Woohoo, all paid up. I'd left it till now just in case I hadn't got a bike going.

Does anyone have a GPS route set up of where we are going? if so can they send it to me. Otherwise I'll sit down with mapsource and see if I can work out how to plug it in.
I mainly use the GPS to tell me where I've been rather than where I'm going so it's not something I've really used yet.

[marks]

Does anyone have a GPS route set up of where we are going? if so can they send it to me. Otherwise I'll sit down with mapsource and see if I can work out how to plug it in.

Have a look at Ryans site (http://advroutes.org.nz/) - gps routes of all the tracks are there

[Padmei]

I wouldn't get too worked up over the porika. I can't remember the bad bit - was it where someones 1150 went over the side? Anyways don't stress about it.

I should mention now to those who may end up following me - don't assume I know where I'm going & as far as overtaking just line up & go for it.:niceone: