Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition!

[bogan]

No they are ridden on car licences but I do think you need a helmet, guess the real question is what they are Reg under I have a feeling that might actually be car too

that seems a bit weird they are car license (then again so are scoots), there were quite a few at the bikeoi, so even if they are registered as cars, they're bikers at heart.

[Scuba_Steve]

well if this helps anyone workout what they are

Vehicle type: Passenger Car/Van
Body style: Motorcycle

Here we go found it
"Registered as a car but you can ride them on a car or a bike licence."

[Bald Eagle]

According to NZTA they are a class of their own

LE (Motor tri-cycle)

A motor vehicle that: has three wheels symmetrically arranged in relation to the longitudinal median axis; and has a gross vehicle mass not exceeding one tonne; and either: has an engine cylinder capacity exceeding 50ml; or has a maximum speed exceeding 50km/h. An LE 1 motor vehicle has one wheel at the front and two wheels at the rear. An LE 2 motor vehicle has two wheels at the front and one wheel at the rear.

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[nudemetalz]

I assume those Piaggio MP3's are the same too,..even though they lean into corners.

[oneofsix]

I assume those Piaggio MP3's are the same too,..even though they lean into corners.

not registered as a bike and take up 2-3 bike parks so should they have to use car parks? But then again if they used a pay n display would the council have them ticketed for breaking the by-law? (getting back to the topic ... slightly).
If you use the suggestion of metered bays what happens to bikes with sidecars, they are bikes so should be allowed to use the bays but will they require to pay for 2? Lucky there aren't that many these days.

[riffer]

Trikes, schmikes.

Where's the pics? I'm stuck in Upper Hutt with the kids this week. C'mon guys, let's see some pics!

[StoneY]

spyders/trikes are bike too, as far as i know they have motorcycle registration, require a motorcycle license to ride, and you gotta get geared up to ride em too, if you're just protesting about the size, what next, goldwings?

Wrong, sorry to say

You can operate a Spyder on a Learners Car License mate but NOT on a Motorcycle Learners license (has to be full 6 for spyder)
This is all detailed in the Red Baron CAN AM day events registration doco's

I am of the opinion Trikes and Spyders should be in car spaces, sorry but they take up a Cars Space and stop 3 bikes uising the bike park

EDIT:
Correction

From the DEALER himself
CAN be registered as a CAR or as a BIKE
That one is registered as a CAR at time it was sold (wont name my source...you all know who he is anyway lol)

Way he is parked today would allow 3 scooters or 2 big bikes

IMO, as he is registered as a CAR he sould be using CAR spaces
Just MY opnion tho

And FULL car or FULL motorcycle license requires, no R or L classases allowed to operate a Spyser (last years infor for Can Am day was wrong and has been corrected)

[caseye]

Right thats it. Burn the bloody semi cage.
LOL na but I too think that if registered as a car and takes up as much space as a car it should be parked in a CAR Park, not taking up room on a bike stand.
Same would apply if it's registered as a bike for me , anyway.Size makes em somnething other than a bike.

[davereid]

From the DEALER himself
CAN be registered as a CAR or as a BIKE
That one is registered as a CAR at time it was sold (wont name my source...you all know who he is anyway lol)

Spyders are legally cars, and are complied as cars. So, its a car.

[Gremlin]

if you're just protesting about the size, what next, goldwings?

Sizest bugger. Still, when I pop down with full luggage on the bike, I haven't found a bike space big enough to park the bike in yet

[crazyhorse]

I've never taken my bike into wellington - but I supported the petition for you guys

[davereid]

I've never taken my bike into wellington - but I supported the petition for you guys

Good on you.

Its not really just about Wellington.

It seems to be about the idea that existing forms of environmentally sound transport like motorcycles are to be taxed out of the city to ensure plenty of space for electric and other (actually not if you do the math) environmentally sound transport.

I mean how can you install ratepayer funded charging stations for electric cars if the city ALREADY has perfectly sound, cheap motorcycles cluttering up all the decent spots?

And these diseases have a habit of spreading.

Council officers take their fat arses and tiny brains to conferences, and get pissed.

Back at the first meeting of the next week, when the boss says "how did the conference go" they vaguely remember drunkenly chatting about motorcycles or dogs, or skateboards, and thus produce the "ban-tax-review-charge for it" list as a defence system.

At least, thats what I did when I worked there.

So it soon arrives as an idea in your town.

[crazyhorse]

Good on you.

Its not really just about Wellington..................So it soon arrives as an idea in your town.

I live in HB ......... we don't even have real public transport. If you call a bus that runs on the hour (between Havelock North and Hastings) - but when its lunch time, they stop for two hours! I hardly call that public transport and encouraging people not to take their cars.

And then there's the railway - what railway! it doesn't even run between Napier and Hastings anymore.

Nope! I think it'll be a long time coming for motorcycles in HB. And besides, you only have to walk a few blocks from town and there is free parking - you just gotta be prepared to walk a few blocks - which alot of HB folk seem to be too lazy to do.

[cheshirecat]

This comment on a post in a UK forum re our petition. i think he's been in a few Westminster bike protests.
Question: how can we "hit the council in the pocket"?

Start on your legal fund now if you haven't already.
Take action directed at hitting the council in the pocket, i.e. help other road users to avoid being charged or fined.
Find allies where you can (e.g. commercial drivers) but don't waste your time trying to get general road users on your side.
Don't protest in a way that pisses off other road users - they'll turn on you rather than on the Council.

Best of luck with that.

[all4A50s]

I know from the data I have been recieving from various sources (eg NZTA, MOT etc) that ALL forms of transport are up in usage factors

Trains/busses already at peak capacity (catch a train you'll see) MORE cars and MORTE motorcycles and MORE cyclists accross the board

The population is growing so more people are commuting to and from...
Its the single occupant cars that piss me off....give a mate a ride, share the bloody road

Anyway, who better to identify where a bike can park than bikers?
I like the idea we submit the locations, I do not think council are shirking a responsibility at all this is cooperation IMO

I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Fine the private cars with only one person in them. I think $10 per trip to the city centre for such cars. It may not be popular, they'll probably be voted out of office but they will make a shit load and will cut down in the amount of traffic.

[BMWST?]

The logic of adding them to a Train and Bus transport hub eludes me Jon.
Did anyone suggest we want to park our bikes and get on a bus to make the last 2 k's to the office or something?
Thats really illogical to park Motorcycles at a train station I mean come on..........

...perhaps a scooter rider lives in welly and works in petone and(wisely imho) decides to train from welly to petone and scotter from island bay to the station....

[DEVVIL]

Sizest bugger. Still, when I pop down with full luggage on the bike, I haven't found a bike space big enough to park the bike in yet

I see what you mean...

[Bald Eagle]

Keep up spreading the word - 4001 singatures.

[riffer]

keep up spreading the word - 4001 singatures.

woot!!!!!!!

[Micky101]

is this what we have to do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdrDl...eature=related

they seem to be having fun.