Heavy Vehicle Amendment - Act now

**p.dath** · 9th June 2009, 18:38

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

They need to make some dedicated roads out of say... steel to handle the weight and then they could link up lots of trailers and pull really heavy loads.

You mean, like, a railroad system? Nah, will never work.

**Ixion** · 9th June 2009, 18:48

What's needed is for all you lazy youff type persons to get off y' chuffs and start inventing stuff.
Us old buggers, we've done our bit. We've invented shit loads of good useful things. Roads, trucks,airships, cars, motorbikes, petrol, pies, condoms, hamburgers, beer, wine, nachos, cell phones, crash helmets, false beards, sex,radar detectors, reticulated water supplies, democracy, spaceships, skull face masks, blow up dolls, two strokes, just about every useful thing y' can think of.

Time for you younger ones to do your bit and get on with inventing new useful stuff. Like anti gravity, matter translocation, taps that don't drip, inter galactic travel, that sort of thing. Should be easy , cos we've laid the foundations f' y'.

Just get on with it , okay.

EDIT: I left out roast dinners. We invented them too.

EDIT EDIT : Curry. that's another good thing we invented.

**NDORFN** · 9th June 2009, 18:50

Originally Posted by Ixion

What's needed is for all you lazy youff type persons to get off y' chuffs and start inventing stuff. Us old buggers, we've done our bit. We've invented shit loads of good useful things. Roads, trucks,airships, cars, motorbikes, petrol, pies, condoms, hamburgers, beer, wine, nachos, cell phones, crash helmets, false beards, sex,radar detectors, reticulated water supplies, democracy, spaceships, skull face masks, blow up dolls, two strokes, just about every useful thing y' can think of. Time for you younger ones to do your bit and get on with inventing new useful stuff. Like anti gravity, matter translocation, taps that don't drip, inter galactic travel, that sort of thing. Should be easy , cos we've laid the foundations f' y'. Just get on with it , okay.

Name one thing you've invented...

**Ixion** · 9th June 2009, 18:52

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Name one thing you've invented...

It's a collective effort. I'm a manager, I don't do the actual inventing, I manage.

**NDORFN** · 9th June 2009, 18:54

Fair enough.

**The Stranger:Me** · 9th June 2009, 18:56

Originally Posted by Winston001

Trains can only go from point A to point B.

There is only one line = delays waiting for the line to clear.

Multi-handling. Load up the truck, take to rail yard, unload, load waits for a train to be available, load up train, arrive destination, shunting and unloading, truck waits for load, picks it up, heads to final destination.

Load gets lost on a siding and is suspiciously found empty a week later.

**Ixion** · 9th June 2009, 18:57

Instead of quibbling you should have y' head down inventing antigravity. It's not going to invent itself y' know, and I'm getting sick of waiting around for it. I mean, what's so hard? Just take ordinary gravity and turn it the other way up.

**Chrislost** · 9th June 2009, 18:58

Originally Posted by scracha

Gah. As if they haven't destroyed the roads enough already, plans are afoot to allow vehicles to operate with up to 55 tonnes laden weight as opposed to the current 44 tonne limit. Watch this space for when this goes to consultation and lets do something about this.

Heavy Vehicle Amendment
HortNZ staff met with the Ministry of Transport officials recently to discuss the amendment to allow heavier vehicles on our roads. This would allow for vehicles to operate up to 55 tonnes laden weight rather than the present 44 tonne limit. Trials have shown a potential 20 percent gain in fuel efficiency and emissions could be made, providing bridges are up to taking the weight.
Bridges on all state highways are being checked for their tolerance of an increase.
The rule amendment will be out for consultation in June and it is hoped the
amendment will be passed by December 2009.

in my understanding the south island roads are beautiful?
it was also my understanding they use trains more then trucks down there...

anyone travelled the bombay-matamata road latley? that things screwed!

**Chrislost** · 9th June 2009, 19:00

Originally Posted by Winston001

Trains can only go from point A to point B.

There is only one line = delays waiting for the line to clear.

Multi-handling. Load up the truck, take to rail yard, unload, load waits for a train to be available, load up train, arrive destination, shunting and unloading, truck waits for load, picks it up, heads to final destination.

one train from a to b

50 trucks from a to b...

**Winston001** · 9th June 2009, 20:33

Originally Posted by Ixion

What's needed is for all you lazy youff type persons to get off y' chuffs and start inventing stuff.
Us old buggers, we've done our bit. We've invented shit loads of good useful things. Roads, trucks,airships, cars, motorbikes, petrol, pies, condoms, hamburgers, beer, wine, nachos, cell phones, crash helmets, false beards, sex,radar detectors, reticulated water supplies, democracy, spaceships, skull face masks, blow up dolls, two strokes, just about every useful thing y' can think of.

Time for you younger ones to do your bit and get on with inventing new useful stuff. Like anti gravity, matter translocation, taps that don't drip, inter galactic travel, that sort of thing. Should be easy , cos we've laid the foundations f' y'.

Just get on with it , okay.

EDIT: I left out roast dinners. We invented them too.

EDIT EDIT : Curry. that's another good thing we invented.

And tomato sauce.

And vegemite.

**Winston001** · 9th June 2009, 20:36

Originally Posted by Ixion

Instead of quibbling you should have y' head down inventing antigravity. It's not going to invent itself y' know, and I'm getting sick of waiting around for it. I mean, what's so hard? Just take ordinary gravity and turn it the other way up.

S'easy innit?! Just spin the particles the other way. Viola. Anti-quarks = anti-gravity.

Right - now that Ix and I have done the heavy lifting, you young'ns put together a matter polariser and we're in bidness..

**Winston001** · 9th June 2009, 20:42

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Rail IS that flexible. Infact, rails were the mainstay in the first 100 years of NZ forrestry, extracting trees from deep within the forrests. From the mid-1900's, the extraction was done by truck to the edge of the forrest where it was taken by train to port, which is what they mostly do now. If they didn't, you'd notice a shit load more logging trucks on the road than you do, we're talking thousands more. It's sufficed to say that the roads would be absolutely fucked.

Ok ok I'm convinced.

Just one condition - show us a country with mountainous islands (like NZ) and small population, somewhere in the world where rail runs profitably. Without any support, subsidies, or protection. In fact just show us a profitable rail operation which serves any nation?

**Mschvs** · 9th June 2009, 20:47

I distinctly remember a sign (several of varying degrees of idiocy) on State Highway 27 between Matamata and Auckland (and I'm googling trying to find a picture of the freakin thing) saying something like 47% of all crashes involve trucks. But hey, statistics and full of it anyway!!

I'm not saying there aren't other dumbarses on the roads, including motorcyclists (a FEW names pop to mind here) but getting trucks off the main highways would prevent a lot of overtaking (where a lot of fatal accidents happen).

Look, I'm all for idiots dying on the roads to be honest. Mother Helen did exactly that ... mothered the f&*k and the fight out of us with her Highway Patrol and revenue making fine jacking! Survival of the fittest. How else are we supposed to cull the herd without being sent to jail .... it's just not fair when an idiot kills one of the good guys ...

**ynot slow** · 9th June 2009, 20:50

The govt will never truly make rail a viable option,due to the fact if more trucks and cars and actually vehicles are on the roading network,they get more road taxs,acc levies,fuel tax,gst on the whole lot.Less heavy road users mean less ruc and fuel tax take.

55 tonnes will be ok if they stick to main highways and arterial routes,and use ruc for the roads,oh yeah never happen.