Q: Why are Harley's missing in a certain price range?

[Big Dave]

Ah the good old days...

Good to see someone else has been using PS as long as me Big Dave...

you forget to mention 'ONE undo'.

yeah - It's still my favourite.

I coloured up the Kustom kultchure big daddy roth piece with it - and created my own 'homage' piece with it.

The bonne started as a bog standard t100 pictured on the showroom floor at amps.

photoshop finks rule.

[Big Dave]

And BTW, got what?

the hang of doing that stuff in photoshop

[Rashika]

Pah. These young 'uns have it too easy.

I remember working half the night on a hotted up Mac IIfx running Photoshop 1.5 under System 6.0.8 to do some tricky stuff back in about '91.

Back then no such thing as layers. Or multiple alpha channels. Let alone layer effects. I had a 12 inch Apple colour monitor and a Radius Pivot (remember those?)

Used to save all the alphas as separate files, load alpha to selection and use some previously worked out image calculations to achieve these effects.

Ah the good old days...

Good to see someone else has been using PS as long as me Big Dave...

well I can remember back to sys 7, psp 2.5 and Fh 4 oh and my hated application (Quark 3.11 ...ugh) and when the power mac was the next BIG thing... but I think you have me beat on the computers by 2 years or so!
...altho i was doing it all by hand for the previous 10 years before that, no such thing as computers when i first started in the trade

[Lou Girardin]

This'd be from your own personal experience with the leathers and tatts then Lou?

Hell no, I wouldn't be able to keep my wife off me if I had them.

[Pixie]

Ride a buel, then jump back on ya GSXR, and i garuntee that your first ride you will have ground the foot pegs on it.....then be wondering how come it doesnt have the same punch in the corner.
Same with Harley bootin it on the open road. Was riding with a group of guys once, and saw some dude on a hardtail race a good ol zzr11 - i dont think i have ever seen a harley boot that fast.
While the jap cruisier have more power.....There is something about the reverse firing order of a harley motor that is like fire......you dont know why but you cant stop stareing.
Me i think that the MT-OS is the beez-kneez....that and the sound of a lovely triple - now that has a shaken not stirred feel to it

a Buel isn't a Hardley
It's a very good motorcycle with an "improved" tractor motor in it

[The Stranger:Me]

There is something about the reverse firing order of a harley motor that is like fire

Well what is the firing order of a harley?

[Ixion]

Well what is the firing order of a harley?

Normal twins fire 1,2 . harleys are different , they fire 2,1

[Rashika]

a Buel isn't a Hardley
It's a very good motorcycle with an "improved" tractor motor in it

hmmm...dont tractors normally run Deisel?

well technically yes it is a Harley.... as it is owned and built by harley
Not the typical Harley true ...but neither is the Vrod...which is less of a Harley than a Buell as the engine is designed by Porsche, at least the Buell still has a Harley albeit worked motor.

its a fkg cool bike

Normal twins fire 1,2 . harleys are different , they fire 2,1

hmmm ....not sure what you mean?

[Kickaha]

hmmm...dont tractors normally run Deisel?

try some Diesel in it, I'm sure it'll work

hmmm ....not sure what you mean?

That's cause you're a girl

[Flyingpony]

Normal twins fire 1,2 . harleys are different , they fire 2,1

Hhmm, so from a given starting point on the crank shaft, it's 2nd cylinder will fire first followed by the 1st cylinder. Is the idea?

The 2nd cylinder is the rear one?

Any special reason why their firing order is different?

Does this also mean that the crank shaft rotates in the opposite direction of how other bike engines do?

[Ixion]

Hhmm, so from a given starting point on the crank shaft, it's 2nd cylinder will fire first followed by the 1st cylinder. Is the idea?

The 2nd cylinder is the rear one?

Any special reason why their firing order is different?

Does this also mean that the crank shaft rotates in the opposite direction of other bike engines do?

I've no idea !. It was a pisstake. seems to me that with only two cylinders both are the same, just depends which you call 1 and which 2.

[Big Dave]

well I can remember back to sys 7, psp 2.5 and Fh 4 oh and my hated application (Quark 3.11 ...ugh) and when the power mac was the next BIG thing... but I think you have me beat on the computers by 2 years or so!
...altho i was doing it all by hand for the previous 10 years before that, no such thing as computers when i first started in the trade

ditto - but it was more than 10 yrs, ahh the waxing machine huh...and bromides - jeez things are good now

[scumdog]

Normal twins fire 1,2 . harleys are different , they fire 2,1

Unless you've fancy ignition both the cylinders fire at the same time, you can swap leads around with no effect on the running - now figure that one out!!







it's easy really!

[Rashika]

try some Diesel in it, I'm sure it'll work

nah thanks runs sweet with regular stuff

That's cause you're a girl

yeah well some people think that is a GOOD thing

Unless you've fancy ignition both the cylinders fire at the same time, you can swap leads around with no effect on the running - now figure that one out!!
it's easy really!

the engine fires as every TDC including the exhaust stroke

ps: I know it was a pisstake

[RDJ]

What are they like compaired to a sprots bike, what is the attraction. I have ridden an old Suzuki harley clone and it was awfull

His mind's made up - no facts need apply...