Petition time...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sorry if this has been suggested here already.
Really hard work to go thru every thread and post here relating to stuff you (I) want to dribble on about before you start.
So, provided it's a new idea...do you think that with the price of fuel, the problems we have with traffic congestion and polution, we should look at starting a nation wide petition regarding the amount of acc levy's etc we pay in our registration costs as motorcyclists?
Isn't it time we tried to get the 'Greenies' and the rest on our side?
If we all got friends (riders or not) to sign up and help, and with the help of sites like this, could we not make a big enough noise?
Isn't it time this so called 'peoples govt' got pro-active about the enviroment it so fiercly states it's trying to protect?
Is now not the perfect time to show the morons that don't already know that bikes are the future?
Sorry in advance if this has been done to death.
CFWB

[SwanTiger]

You have spirit young jedi.

There is a place for you to exhibit and hone these jedi forces.

http://www.bronz.org.nz/

[Crasherfromwayback]

No spirit tonight my good man....just Steinlarger and a good pinot!
Cheers for the tip though!!!

[Big Dave]

We'll have an updated and revised site online next week too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Way cool....don't you think we can all get this off the ground?

[Dafe]

The apparant reason behind such high ACC levies upon motorcyclists, is due to the cost of Skin Grafting which is predominanty a motorcyclists injury.

What farks me off the most is seeing so many idiots still riding around with exposed skin. They're the reason we pay so much.

Personally, I'd like to see indivuals have to cover skin graft costs themselves! You promote it - You pay for it!

It would be good to try and obtain the figures and see how much our ACC levies amount to vs the annual costs of skin grafting due to motorcycle accidents.

I'm hearing ya Pete, something needs to be done. These figures would be a good start.

[Lou Girardin]

And while we're at it, we should lobby for full approved safety gear to be a mandatory requirement. Including flouro vests.
And gaitors.

[Squeak the Rat]

See this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=28806 Evidently a bike crash costs the government less than a car crash..... Yet another reason to pay less.

No spirit tonight my good man....just Steinlarger and a good pinot!
Cheers for the tip though!!!

Steiny AND Pinot? I bet your suffering this morning....

We'll have an updated and revised site online next week too.

Looking forward to it - can you post in the General Bike Ravings section when it's ready?

[Crasherfromwayback]

it's taken me years to get the balance just right mate....not enough Steinie, you wake up with a mouth like the bottom of a bird cage....too much and you risk wetting the bed.
Practice makes prefect.

[Crasherfromwayback]

perfect....see, no hangover

[Ixion]

Words, words, words, as the Bard was wont to say after a trying time with Mrs Bard each month.

Petition all you wish, but until the crash statistics change ACC will always have the perfect answer. "You cost us more, therefore you pay more"

Deeds are what's needed. Specifically, less crashing!

What MIGHT have a chance is splitting out scooters and smaller bikes. Course, that might mean 1000s pay $1000 a year.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well seeing as around 80% of motorcycle accidents are caused by factors beyond our control (blind car drivers, loose gravel un-marked blah blah), it would seem only too fair that said blind drivers paid the higher levys!

[Ixion]

Remarkably, almost every bike crash is caused by something beyond the riders control.According to the rider, anyway. As is every non crash.

Unfortunately, however, ACC is a "no blame" environment. Doesn't matter who caused it, all that matters is who they have to pay out to.

Given that we don't have steel wall protection , even in a multi vehicle crash, that'll be us.

In a single vehicle crash (and most bike crashes ARE single vehicle - no one to blame but the rider IMHO) , obviously, us

Believe me, I feel the pain. In 40 years riding and driving I must have paid 10's of thousands of dollars of levy. Cost to ACC - $0. I reckon I deserve a BIG refund.

Now, there's an idea that just MIGHT fly - a no claims discount on ACC. 10 years claim free and you get reduced rates? Could be a political possibility. Trouble is , how many bikers would qualify , hm.

[emaN]

a no claims discount on ACC. 10 years claim free and you get reduced rates? Could be a political possibility. Trouble is , how many bikers would qualify , hm.

doh!
nearly there...

[marty]

we can't go 10 days claim free in my household, let alone 10 years.

i'll pay my tax and get on with it. there's not much acc levy in bmx/rugby/netball/hockey/mountain biking, but i'm sure my bike/car/plane fees make up for it