So what are YOUR issues.

[Ixion]

I think you will find that the clubs pay a fairly hefty ACC levy which covers any teams they field in a competition.

Whacking ACC levies on a bunch of bros having a kick around in the park ain't gonna work.

Nope. Not unless they are professionals. This urban myth keeps getting trooted out. It is completely false.

There are only four ACC accounts. All ACC payments come from one of those accounts.

Motor vehicles - funded through fuel tax and levy at rego time. Covers motor vehicle injuries (including off road ones) .

Earners, funded through a deduction from wages - as part of PAYE. Covers non-motor vehicle, non-job accidents for people in employment.

Employers, they pay it as part of their tax also, based on payroll and industry type. Covers job injuries to workers

And general , funded by the government directly, from general taxation (covers non-work, non-vehicle accidents for people who are not in employment).

Sports clubs do not pay any ACC levy, apart from what they may pay as employers, if they employ people . (They may be GST registered, but that quite different)

[Ixion]

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10pm extensions can be applied for, for work purposes (say)
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You already can. Exemption form at any LTSA agent. Not automatic, though , and like a work licence for disqualified, only covers specific journey.

[TwoSeven]

So I think they should put all licences up to a minimum age of 21, bring out graduated licences (12kw 125 being a starter) for both cars and bikes. Make the test as hard as the basic instructor license in the UK, and then make them sit renewals every 5-10 years. The test should also have a psychology componant that removes nervous, indecisive and agressive drivers.

The use of foreign licenses should also be reduced down to 3 months with a basic test given for an extension.

I dont think it should be a right to drive, I think one should have to prove capability before being let loose on the road.

[Marmoot]

Fresh from the oven: Please address the motorcycle issue regarding that f**ken so-called Auckland Congestion charges.

I'm not prepared to pay $1000 per year extra for my 'congestion-causing" motorcycle (heh? ) when I don't even get a payrise, petrol tax is increasing, and the whole petrol price cost me an arm and a leg.

Don't we have enough tax already?

[Karma]

[*]Direct access for new riders over 25 (1 week course on 500cc = full licence)

You guys not have this over here already?

This is exactly what I did in the UK to get my full license, but it's anyone over 21.

1 week intensive course, 7/8 hours riding with an instructor per day, full test at the end, whammo, full license.

[riffer]

Another thing for consideration.

On the Wellington Motorway they have replaced the armco on the waterfront side.

Now this new armco is at a much greater height than the previous armco, and there's a good 2-3 foot gap between the armco and the road. A bike could easily go through if its on its side.

There should be a standard (in parts of Europe there is) for the maximum space between armco and the road.

I agree with Jim2 in principle with the greater testing of motorcycle licencees, but I will add that I would like to see this done to car licences too.

And car licences should be graduated - power to weight ratio or even CC rating should be limiting factors. Say for example:

Licence Level 1: Learner. Same conditions as now but limit cc rating to 1600cc no turbo.

Licence Level 2: Restricted. Same conditions as now but limit cc rating to 2000cc no turbo.

Licence Level 3. Competent Driver. Allow up to 4000cc no turbo (ie 6 cylinder cars).

Licence Level 4. Advanced Driver. Requires combination Defensive Driving Course, plus Advanced Driver Training at Track Days or for example Holden Advanced Driver Training courses. No cc limit, or restriction on turbocharging. No horsepower limit.

[Paul in NZ]

I'd like the ACC / Rego thing dropped for my second bike. I can only ride one at a time!

I'd like a sliding scale for older bikes rego. A 25 year old Moto Guzzi is really only a hobby (a very nice one)

[Big Dave]

try and leave the subjuctive taste calls out please paul

But that's all I want in terms of response - thanks.

Team:
as i'm/we're going to try and make some sort of statistical ideas out of the responses here - would you please start another thread to debate the issues.

I just want to see what the issues you identify are in this one and the water is getting a bit muddy.

thanks
dc

[cowpoos]

Nope. Not unless they are professionals. This urban myth keeps getting trooted out. It is completely false.

There are only four ACC accounts. All ACC payments come from one of those accounts.

Motor vehicles - funded through fuel tax and levy at rego time. Covers motor vehicle injuries (including off road ones) .

Earners, funded through a deduction from wages - as part of PAYE. Covers non-motor vehicle, non-job accidents for people in employment.

Employers, they pay it as part of their tax also, based on payroll and industry type. Covers job injuries to workers

And general , funded by the government directly, from general taxation (covers non-work, non-vehicle accidents for people who are not in employment).

Sports clubs do not pay any ACC levy, apart from what they may pay as employers, if they employ people . (They may be GST registered, but that quite different)

ACC made a 801 million dollar profit last year....that is not cool!! and yet ACC rates continue to go up....its just another labour government tax...

privatise the industry again...make it so you have to pay your own insurance...and bring competition into the market place...

[Str8 Jacket]

I think that there is a strong need to emphasize the dangers of both cage drivers AND motorcyclists crossing the centre lane.
I think more money should be put into campaining against it. IMO anyway...

[The Stranger:Me]

ACC made a 801 million dollar profit last year....that is not cool!! and yet ACC rates continue to go up....its just another labour government tax...

privatise the industry again...make it so you have to pay your own insurance...and bring competition into the market place...

ACC rates on motor vehicles came down this year on account of the profit last year.

[stanko]

Should employ hundreds of gay cops to give drivers caught texting while driving a public rogering over the boot of their cars!

Free Castrol TTS to help reduce visible emmisions from my 2 strokes (public health issues you know)

[raster]

Full access to bus lanes.
Lane splitting to set rules(as UK)
Concentration on drivers skill not speed, fines to pay for driver training.

[Gremlin]

holy hell... so many issues, can't even think of them all of the top of ya head.

I'll go with this:

Full access to bus lanes.
Lane splitting to set rules(as UK)
Concentration on drivers skill not speed, fines to pay for driver training.

but also, generally, thinking about us when putting in laws, they think of us as evil, yet we help traffic etc etc. Of course, on the flip side, thinking of us could be a negative thing. Thinking of us covers items such as:
- paint for road markings
- traffic light sensors
- manholes one after each other in the middle of corners
- gravel on roads - from poor design

without admitting to anything, no restrictions on splitting either... none of this certain speeds etc etc.

[El Dopa]

Compulsory enforced training and periodic license renewals for motorcyclists. Each license renewal requires passing a written and practical test.

...And all other road users except cyclists.

120 km/h speed limit on the open road where appropriate (e.g. motorways).

Motorbikes alloed to use bus lanes on the motorway.