Politics

[hXc]

You are not going to give in, yet you are going to give up and get out.

The government doesn't listen to us. Well that's democracy...Yeah right! Majority fucking rules my arse.

I'm leaving because I'm sick of the government. I'm sick of not being able to make a change. I'm sick of it all.

[hXc]

Whose fault is it that bikers are still apathetic in the 2000s . Yours.

How did it get that way in the 90's. You

[hXc]

You showing yourself up boy. It means the rest of the 2 million people are spread out over the rest of the country

Exactly, the rest of the country should rule it. Not Auckland!

[Ixion]

Nope, I was bitching away all through the 90s . And the 80s . And the 2000s. Just got a bit lonely in the 90s

[Qkkid]

How did it get that way in the 90's. You

Because of little shits like you who are Young dumb and need a wank because your full of cum because instead of dealing with issues you run away and hide and say "cant be bothered"

[Phurrball]

The government doesn't listen to us. Well that's democracy...Yeah right! Majority fucking rules my arse.

I'm leaving because I'm sick of the government. I'm sick of not being able to make a change. I'm sick of it all.

Nyeh! You'll be back. NZ is still paradise. You'll learn that overseas with a little life experiemce.

Time for a nice cup of tea and a sit down - onya for sticking to your guns in the face of overwhelming rational argument - perhaps a teency concession that maybe Aucklanders aren't all bad might be in order? After all, an Aucklander set up this website you're using...

You remind me of myself 12 or so years ago.

[The Stranger:Me]

Exactly, the rest of the country should rule it. Not Auckland!

They're too busy looking out for themselves to band together and make it happen.

[yungatart]

Because of little shits like you who are Young dumb and need a wank because your full of cum because instead of dealing with issues you run away and hide and say "cant be bothered"

Touchy, touchy....

[yungatart]

hXc is just 15-it doesn't need a sledge hammer to deal with a carpet tack. Have some of you forgotten what it is like to be an adolescent?

[Hitcher]

IT"S NOT ABOUT AUCKLAND, IT"S ABOUT MOTORCYCLES!!!

The immediate issue isn't. Arguing that will win you few friends amongst policy analysts who will be looking for feedback relevant to the issue at hand -- Auckland's (not the rest of New Zealand's) traffic woes. Some puff piece about the economic and environmental contribution that can be unlocked by giving dispensations to motorcyclists who ride to work may probably be lost on them. By advocating exempting motorcycles, you're not offering them a solution. You're just another single-issue advocate -- like Susan from Herne Bay who doesn't like diesel fumes tainting her washing.

My earlier post was intended to help whoever was writing submissions, not to pick on Aucklanders at the expense of others.

[Qkkid]

hXc is just 15-it doesn't need a sledge hammer to deal with a carpet tack. Have some of you forgotten what it is like to be an adolescent?

I have done alot of travelling even the whole south island and i go down there 2-3 times a year and i think overall New Zealand is a wondertfull place to live like every country it has its issues its better we act now and sort the roads issues because we are a growing nation and there will come a day when its to late to do it so i say sort it now invest in all of New Zealands roading issues because its cheaper now than in another 30-40 years

[Phurrball]

I have done alot of travelling even the whole south island and i go down there 2-3 times a year and i think overall New Zealand is a wondertfull place to live like every country it has its issues its better we act now and sort the roads issues because we are a growing nation and there will come a day when its to late to do it so i say sort it now invest in all of New Zealands roading issues because its cheaper now than in another 30-40 years

Amen to NZ being paradise!

Aye, Auckland's issues could well foreshadow those of Wellington or Christchurch as they grow. Sorting it out here could well help WRT future development of roading strategies in other NZ cities.

[The Stranger:Me]

The immediate issue isn't. Arguing that will win you few friends amongst policy analysts who will be looking for feedback relevant to the issue at hand -- Auckland's (not the rest of New Zealand's) traffic woes. Some puff piece about the economic and environmental contribution that can be unlocked by giving dispensations to motorcyclists who ride to work may probably be lost on them. By advocating exempting motorcycles, you're not offering them a solution. You're just another single-issue advocate -- like Susan from Herne Bay who doesn't like diesel fumes tainting her washing.

My earlier post was intended to help whoever was writing submissions, not to pick on Aucklanders at the expense of others.

Aye?
Ok, accepted I am not a politician, however hundreds of people lobby a position for their cause and make no bones about it. Many like the Alcohol lobby have serious money, and well I have no idea how the drinking age came to drop to 18 and how, now that we have serious problems with the drinking habits of the young they can't find a way to fix this. but we don't have the money to throw at it. The fact remains that these lobbies still manage to be efective.
Look at the NRA in America. What politician will oppose them? Any idea what they stand for? and by christ if they swing in behind Susan in Herne Bay people will listen.

And beside in London Motorcycles are exempt from the charge. Motorcycle usage has increased 3 fold as a result and congestion has decreased, so maybe we offering a solution to their problems.

[Hitcher]

And beside in London Motorcycles are exempt from the charge. Motorcycle usage has increased 3 fold as a result and congestion has decreased, so maybe we offering a solution to their problems.

Use that example and any other relevant ones you can find. But also anticipate proactively criticisms that may get thrown back.

[Qkkid]

There is nothing wrong with adolescence and innocense but think before you speak this thread was about our roads as motorcyclist and he does not give a shit thats the attitude of majority of young people today and thats why our society is in so much trouble. We modicodle issues and throw them in the to hard basket instead of dealing with them.