Petition time...

[Big Dave]

Trouble is , how many bikers would qualify , hm.

4 times - 43 years since first mini bike - no significant injury.

[Big Dave]

OK squeak and others - here is what I have so far - BETA BETA BETA and very much still under construction - the contact data and membership are out of date - but I have a start - the complete and accurate datails are being compiled now - but here is the first sessions output.
www.davidcohen.co.nz/bronz

If you want to start petitioning using this resource then join BRONZ, attend a meeting or write to a branch and get it included on the agenda.
cheers
dc

[riffer]

Hmmm... no Wellington branch of BRONZ Dave?

[Skyryder]

No matter what logic you use or how many sigs you get the opposition will always have a counter answer.

You are going after the wrong target.

There is no counter argument for leaving bikers stranded on the road, as can happen under current law. The simple fact that if for any reason you are ticketed for speeding over 40 kph over the 'posted' speed limit HP act as judge jury and executioner. There should be at least a 24 hour period in which you have to 'surrender' your licence to a Police station. This simple courtesy can not be contered by any arguement in a civilised society.

THIS IS WINNABLE GO AFTER SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS ALL ROAD USERS. UNITE WITH AA, CAR CLUBS ETC. Win this then go after the levies.

Skyryder

[Big Dave]

Hmmm... no Wellington branch of BRONZ Dave?

struck me as ironic. ya wanna start one?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I for one, would certainly be happy to help in any way I can.

[Ironman]

ACC levies are payable via registration, so the more vehicles you own the more registration you pay. I used to own a couple of bikes and hence paid double the ACC levy but I can only ride one bike at a time, well if they'd been 250's I guess I could have strapped one to each foot and used them as roller skates Anyway my point is the systems unfair to multiple vehicle owners as the risk is constant

[Skyryder]

ACC levies are payable via registration, so the more vehicles you own the more registration you pay. I used to own a couple of bikes and hence paid double the ACC levy but I can only ride one bike at a time, well if they'd been 250's I guess I could have strapped one to each foot and used them as roller skates Anyway my point is the systems unfair to multiple vehicle owners as the risk is constant

That is a better argument for ACC levie changes. It not only affects bikers but those who have multiple vehicles; cars etc. If you want some changes to this it has to be something that brings on 'all' road users. The biker community can act as the spearhead for this but with out the shaft, the spear head is useless.

For those that think a petion soley based on the reduction of ACC levies for bikers can be achieved let me ask two questions.

How long has the biker community been trying to achive this??

What has changed that makes this achievable in the current climate?


I'll say it again if you want changes go after something that 'affects' all road users. A petion presented on the steps of Parliment with a biker protest as the 'spearhead will not only get the media's attention but it could be used as a membership drive for BRONZ. Food for thought????


Skyryder

[Big Dave]

I for one, would certainly be happy to help in any way I can.

goodonya - next meeting I'll ask 'how does a branch get started' and advise.

[Ixion]

goodonya - next meeting I'll ask 'how does a branch get started' and advise.

Well, you see, when a Mummy tree and a Daddy tree really love each other .................


Uh, sorry, I'll go away now.

[The Stranger:Me]

goodonya - next meeting I'll ask 'how does a branch get started' and advise.

Ok, you got the jump on us there a little guys.

You may recall Dave, Finn and I stayed back a while on Thursday. This was the first thing that I spoke to him about after the meeting.

We hatched a plan to get Wellington back up and running. If this succeeds we intended to try it in a few other areas.

Wellington did have a branch. We intended to aproach one of the old Wellington members and ask him to either re-convene or at least be a contact point and assist others to set it up.

We also have a couple of ideas for a recruiting drive.

If we have some people here from the Wellington region whom are interested in assisting with the setup and running of BRONZ in the area it would be great if you could PM me your name and contact details please.

[The Stranger:Me]

Well, you see, when a Mummy tree and a Daddy tree really love each other .................


Uh, sorry, I'll go away now.

Ixion, perhaps you would like to join the Wellington branch...



And take you dynamite with you.

[TonyB]

I haven't read through all of this, but I'm quite positive there was a thread where, before the election, a member contacted the various parties about their policies towards motorcyclists. From what I can recall, the Greens DON'T regard motorcycles as being enviromentally friendly. Or was it just sprots bikes?

[Skyryder]

I haven't read through all of this, but I'm quite positive there was a thread where, before the election, a member contacted the various parties about their policies towards motorcyclists. From what I can recall, the Greens DON'T regard motorcycles as being enviromentally friendly. Or was it just sprots bikes?

I occasionaly walk in political circles. We don't even register as a voting force in any political party.

There's enough of us, we should do.

Skyryder

[Big Dave]

[QUOTE=Skyryder]I occasionaly walk in political circles.

No mortal man spoke ever again with Beren son of Barihir; and none saw Beren and Lutherien leave the world[/QUOTE=Skyryder]

Sounds more like concentric circles!
See what the grand pooh bah can do about bus lanes too.

Seriously - that's what the BRONZ push is about.

My cunning plan is to build it a better web site that can identify some processes for us to establish a political voice, promote the organisation with some column centimeters that have fallen my way, and then step back into the rank and file.