Bronz?

**Big Dave** · 20th February 2006, 11:40

Can someone give us some educated opinions on what goes on with BRONZ. Who what where? - and don't bother bitching about it. I'm looking to take the process forward.

It occurs to me that maybe some of the angst energy that goes into posting and ranting on Kiwi Biker could be better directed? To the Govt via BRONZ perhaps.

Don't know how it works, but there's some letter writing communicating power at least.

Lets stop spinning our wheels at each other a bit maybe.

**Ixion** · 20th February 2006, 11:49

I'm a member. I think it's fallen into that stage that besets a lot of such organsiations, where the fire has died out. They do some good work, but I'm pretty certain they're discounted in the "circles of power". No fire, no balls, no worry.

There is an Auckland AGM once a year, last year I suggested that any Auckland KBers who were members go along and get some representation on the committee, with a view to making the organisation more active. But no-one seemed interested, and then I was overseas myself anyway.

I'm a starter for anything that's sensible, I reckon getting BRONZ back on track would be quicker and easier than starting a new group. We need something like the MAG in the UK.

**BM-GS** · 20th February 2006, 11:54

I was a member for a year or 2 recently. They seem to do some good work (rider training, spannering sesions, etc), but they haven't made the jump to being a big enough organisation to make much of a difference. They don't get included on the list of interested parties (AA, etc) to do with road stuff or changes to traffic rules/policy, so can only play catch-up.

It seems a small group, but a lot of time is spent on meetings and discussing stuff amongst themselves rather than badgering Minsters/councils, etc. Maybe that's rules on how such organisations conduct themselves?

I un-joined as I wasn't getting much out of it and there wasn't much I could do at the time (or now) to help. If anyone wants to get stuck in & make a difference, you could do worse, but I think they need full-time people to keep on at the powers-that-be to make a difference.

They're not MAG in the UK, but then the political-type problems here are different - and lesser, I think. I can't think of any, apart from bus-lane use and a possible end to the lane-splitting ban (front number-plates?). Maybe once toll-roads start appearing everywhere there'll be more to do.

My $0.02,

**The Stranger:Me** · 20th February 2006, 12:10

Originally Posted by Ixion

I'm a member. I think it's fallen into that stage that besets a lot of such organsiations, where the fire has died out. They do some good work, but I'm pretty certain they're discounted in the "circles of power". No fire, no balls, no worry.

There is an Auckland AGM once a year, last year I suggested that any Auckland KBers who were members go along and get some representation on the committee, with a view to making the organisation more active. But no-one seemed interested, and then I was overseas myself anyway.

I'm a starter for anything that's sensible, I reckon getting BRONZ back on track would be quicker and easier than starting a new group. We need something like the MAG in the UK.

Speeking for Auckland only here.

Much of what you say is I feel somewhat correct.
Unfortunately as usual most want to leave it up to the next bloke, consequently also as usual, a small core wind up carrying the load and many others will line up to knock when "things" are not done.

Because of the limited resources we are restricted to training (RRRS), some rides (Easter, blood, toy) and we respond to proposed legislation by making submissions to govt on legislation which may impact motorcyclists. In all probability you would not even know that you have been assisted in this manner, but we do see ammendments made which we have proposed, so the system does work sometimes. There are several other tacks which I personally would like to see, but require more support and more knowledge than I possess.

All bikers are welcome, Auckland meetings are held the third Wednesday of each month at the Danish House in Rockridge Ave, Penrose.

**Big Dave** · 20th February 2006, 12:11

Would it be good if they/we/i post some sort of agenda on Kiwi Biker?

Imagining they would suggest 'calls to action' and try and boost membership so it does get 'consideration'.
I could back it up in the mag too.

dreamin' - but worth a go.

Ixion - do you have a hotline for some of their data?

edit - don't bother CaN just aswered.

**Big Dave** · 20th February 2006, 12:12

Originally Posted by CaN

All bikers are welcome, Auckland meetings are held the third Wednesday of each month at the Danish House in Rockridge Ave, Penrose.

OK - what time - is that this week?

**The Stranger:Me** · 20th February 2006, 12:22

Sorry mate, last week.
It is at 7:30 pm.

I have sent you a PM with the Auck President's details.
Sometimes he can't stop and talk and sometimes you just plain wont get him during business hours, but he is approachable.

**Zapf** · 20th February 2006, 15:13

happy to be involved....

specially as I saw today personally the lack of training / safety gear for pizza boys riding 50cc scooters!

**enigma51** · 20th February 2006, 15:24

Not sound stupid or anything but for those who dont realy know but have heard of it what is BRONZ

**Big Dave** · 20th February 2006, 15:27

Originally Posted by enigma51

Not sound stupid or anything but for those who dont realy know but have heard of it what is BRONZ

Bikers right of NZ - innit? no stupido - that's why i asked too.

and are there any alternatives.

**scumdog** · 20th February 2006, 15:29

Member of BRONZ Otago, going fairly strong at the moment with 100+ members, they run the Vincent rally each year (among other things) and are generally quite active on the political front.

**Big Dave** · 20th February 2006, 15:33

Originally Posted by scumdog

e generally quite active on the political front.

On what issues?

**scumdog** · 20th February 2006, 15:56

Originally Posted by Big Dave

On what issues?

Registration fees, motorbike safety issues, licence regulations, roadside barriers etc.

Re you sig. - my mates and self regularly refer to them as "ecnalubmas", causes a lot of head-scratching from others around us.

**Swoop** · 20th February 2006, 16:06

Originally Posted by scumdog

Registration fees, motorbike safety issues, licence regulations, roadside barriers etc.

Re you sig. - my mates and self regularly refer to them as "ecnalubmas", causes a lot of head-scratching from others around us.

Typical ecilop...

I have wondered about phoning my MP for a little chat. There are topics that would be very relevant...
Bikes in bus lanes (m'way)
ACC levy.
Driving skills of kiwis in general....

If we each did this with our own MP's, there MIGHT be a slight "perking up of the ears" of our governmental representatives (which is what they are bloody well there for anyway!!!)