Motorcycle registration figures (August 2006)

**Lou Girardin** · 2nd August 2006, 08:15

Does anyone have the registration figures for the last 5 years at their fingertips? I'm unable to search for them at work.
It would be interesting to compare those figures with fatal/injury accident numbers.
If someone has the same figures for 4wd's, they would provide an interesting couterpoint to MOT's claims about motorcycles.
I'm aiming to formulate some questions for the Whangarei meeting.

**spudchucka** · 2nd August 2006, 08:51

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/statistics/m...005/index.html

The site appears to have the info you want, I haven't had time to read through it though. Hope it helps.

**Lou Girardin** · 2nd August 2006, 14:00

Thanks Spud.

**Brian d marge** · 3rd August 2006, 00:13

It had everything there , even the three enfield that were sold last year !! You could even tell the fellas conming off the fishing boats and buying a harley ..why else were there so many sold in Invercargil!!!

Very help
Cheers Spud

Stephen

**Lou Girardin** · 3rd August 2006, 08:13

It's very interesting that annual registrations went from around 5000 in 01 to 12000 in 05 (from memory) yet accident figures have 'plateaued'.
Aren't we clever, safe little bikers.
I wonder why they think we'll start killing ourselves next year? Perhaps they're believing their own publicity. Or, worse, Clive Matthew-Wilson.
It looks like they should start some draconian enforcement of pedestrians and psyclists instead.

**Brian d marge** · 5th August 2006, 17:20

Just browsing through those figures Mr Dogg posted, Very interesting reading. Seems that the place to be would be the lower North Island, Riding a blue Suzuki over 60 cc of a 1991 vintage! ( Blue Rf900 maybe??~)

but it breaks the types of vehicles down for cars , ie 27 gazillion mazadas sold , but it doesnt do that for bikes.

You see there were 7 000 odd bikes sold last year and there are about 50 000 bikes on the road, So WHO are buying the things and WHO are appearing in the accident statistics

Anicdotial evidence ( I thought was the born again biker on a harley, ) but seeems they wernt the most sold ??

Wonder if that s possible to find out

1 the breakdown of types of motorcycles sold
2 The break down of motorcycle type in Both injury and Non injury accidents
3 The age of those people listed above ( I have statistics NZ, they reckon the age group 35-50 have the most spending power for transport ),

Then once you have that, you would IMHO have a solid base from which to argue,,,( ie you would know the demographics of the accidents Couple with the demographics of the causes, ie car drivers and cow shit on the road, on a RF900 with limited experience) You would then know the problem and could propose a very good solution.

Just a thought

Stephen

**The Stranger:Me** · 6th August 2006, 18:30

I found it interesting at the safeas workshop.
If I heard Ixion correctly, ACC take the cost of all motorcycle accidents and divide this by the number of registered motorcycles to decide that we are evil, all killing ourselves and costing them moon beams. Hence our big ACC content in our registrations compared to cars.

This ignores the fact that many, possibly most bikes are not registered. I know of 3 people whom wont or don't ride bikes on the road (for fear of death) yet have made ACC claims recently as a result of off road motorcycle activity. But of course their costs are being lumped on the registered motorcycles.

So does anyone have the sales figures for off road bikes as opposed to road bike please?

**spudchucka** · 6th August 2006, 20:23

Originally Posted by CaN

So does anyone have the sales figures for off road bikes as opposed to road bike please?

You'd probably have to approach each individual importer to get those figures. Otherwise Customs might be able to give a breakdown or perhaps Statistics NZ.

**davereid** · 8th August 2006, 13:45

Yeah, so ACC charges are higher for motorcyclists, because we cost more to patch up after an accident. But often we are the victim of poor driving by other vehicles - Its a case of charging the victim of the crime rather than the criminal.

Hmm... now you can get an ACC payout if you are raped. Maybe women should pay a special ACC levy, cos they can get raped.

**Deano** · 8th August 2006, 13:50

You will be lucky to raise this issue as it doesn't really 'fit' with the workshop program. The workshops are so specific, they obviously just want to keep focussing on speed, alcohol and youths.

If you get the opportunity, ask why the 'vulnerable road user' cops the higher ACC levy in their rego, rather than the vehicles doing the damage.

AND, why motorcycles that are not even ridden on the roads affect our stats ? E.G Motorcross and trail

**quickbuck** · 9th August 2006, 18:45

Originally Posted by Deano

AND, why motorcycles that are not even ridden on the roads affect our stats ? E.G Motorcross and trail

AND Farm (I bet a fiver that ATVs are chucked in to corrupt the data some more).

**sAsLEX** · 9th August 2006, 19:03

Originally Posted by davereid

cos they can get raped.

Sorry to dent your innocence but so can you!

**quickbuck** · 9th August 2006, 19:10

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Sorry to dent your innocence but so can you!

Spooky to think about, but very true.

**Motu** · 9th August 2006, 20:15

MX used to be a seperate listing on the ACC payouts....but it's 13 years since I saw that breakdown stats sheet,it could be different now.

**Ixion** · 9th August 2006, 21:01

I think that separate listing only applies to formal organised competitions, and claims by "professional" riders. Same as a claim by a rugby player goes against the employment fund if he's an All Black but against the (sport) general fund if it's just Joe Soap playing for his club