What the hell?

[James Deuce]

Hi ekspatriat

From the NZ Motorcycle Road Code

Where is the best place to position your motorcycle on the road whilst riding?

a. In the centre of the road
b. In the postion normally taken up by the right wheels of a car
c. As close to the left as possible

The correct answer is "b. In the postion normally taken up by the right wheels of a car"

Sorry, it ISN'T anymore.

The Road Code for Motorcyclists is out of date thanks to a law change last year designed to stop people hogging the "fast" lane on the motorway.

The answer has been mandated as c.

This issue was publicised by BRONZ last year and discussed at length on KB

[rwh]

WTF?

Anybody got a reference for this?

Will search KB (don't remember it; when was it?), but also the legislation.

Actually, searching KB is hard, with just a keyword of 'left' and perhaps 'law'

Richard

[Krusti]

Sorry, it ISN'T anymore.

The Road Code for Motorcyclists is out of date thanks to a law change last year designed to stop people hogging the "fast" lane on the motorway.

The answer has been mandated as c.

This issue was publicised by BRONZ last year and discussed at length on KB

Although the correct answer is still b for those about to sit their licence test.

[James Deuce]

That would be an interesting one to debate.

The law change came into effect at the same time as the "new" roundabout indication laws, so it would probably be enforced as well as those have been.

[rwh]

The law change came into effect at the same time as the "new" roundabout indication laws, so it would probably be enforced as well as those have been.

Really? That's before I sat any tests; before I even bought my Road Code I think ... TBH I fail to see the point of an 'Official Road Code' that we can't trust - and that doesn't even reference the legislation it attempts to resemble.

Richard

[dogsnbikes]

I ride where the cage infront of me can see me in his mirrors.......

riding on the left means I'm pulling over or making room for a faster bike approaching from behind

I ride where I feel safe........and it would help if they focused more on the cages that travel the centre line and these bloody hummbees dont leave much room on the road either

[Sanx]

I'd be surprised if anyone was pulled on this...the rozzer would have to be a complete tw@.

Apologies to the 3.5 traffic cops that don't fit this stereotype...

[gixermike]

I'll add this to the list of taxable things i'll get charged for...wonder if I can set up a direct debit to the police....say $80 / month...

I use both sides of the road when approaching left hand corners to see round the corner (far enough in advance to see if someone is in the oncoming lane..or not at all if yellow lines etc), and get back in my lane as the view decreases or someone appears the other way...just as taught by the police (Uk)to keep me alive.....also allows overtaking around long left hand bends coz you can see round them.....so they become straights again!! It's described in their manual which is available online....but mackthe knife has my copy at the moment if anyone wants it.

Now, to set up the direct debit.......

[Ixion]

Do you have a link for that manual ?

[Grub]

The Road Code for Motorcyclists is out of date thanks to a law change last year designed to stop people hogging the "fast" lane on the motorway.

He's right. There was a test case some years ago of a nana doing 65 in the right lane of the motorway and causing all sorts of probs. A cop ticketted them for failing to keep left.

The Court of Appeal (I think) decreed that the motorist *was* keeping left - in his lane. Therefore no offence was committed. The law has now been changed and that defense is now crappola

[Swoop]

Which reminds me, there's a public road safety message you should know about which gets played a lot on the radio. It goes something like this:

"Ride to the conditions, when they change just take some speed".

Incorrect. The jingle is "DRIVE to the conditions...".
This is an advert for cagers and bikes are exempt.

[gixermike]

Do you have a link for that manual ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorcycle-R...7904986&sr=1-1

it's called 'Motorcycle roadcraft'

Mack has my copy, if you wanna borrow it...has diagrams, but not 100% usefull without the instruction.

[ekspatriat]

What manual do Kiwi bike cops ride from??

[The Stranger:Me]

Sorry, it ISN'T anymore.

The Road Code for Motorcyclists is out of date thanks to a law change last year designed to stop people hogging the "fast" lane on the motorway.

The answer has been mandated as c.

This issue was publicised by BRONZ last year and discussed at length on KB

BRONZ does have an official letter (would have to check again whom it is from exactly, I seem to recall it may have been the minister for transport) stating that the right wheel track is considered as far to the left as practible for a motorcycle. So it would make an interesting test case as common sense, the road code and the minister all concur.

[rwh]

He's right. There was a test case some years ago of a nana doing 65 in the right lane of the motorway and causing all sorts of probs. A cop ticketted them for failing to keep left.

The Court of Appeal (I think) decreed that the motorist *was* keeping left - in his lane. Therefore no offence was committed. The law has now been changed and that defense is now crappola

That sounds odd. How long ago? As long as I can remember (I've been driving 20 years), it's been that you must not use the right lane if it would obstruct other traffic - which would have been the an offence in this case.

On the other hand, also for as long as I can remember, the road code has said that keeping left means keeping as far left as practicable on an unlaned road, and keeping entirely within your lane (on the left hand side of the road) when it's laned.

The bit about keeping to the left of your lane - well this is about the first I've heard of it, other than that it keeps cropping up in lanesplitting threads (cages should keep left in their lane so I can split down the right).

I'm still hoping someone can post a link to the actual law.

Richard