Correct procedure for handing out a ticket.

[kr250]

How do we no that speed has not been used all day

[scumdog]

How do we no that speed has not been used all day

You don't - so I leave 68kph on the thing all day, much easier than actually trying to catch a real speeder...



I can't be buggered explaining the truth.

[paturoa]

F THE POLICE.

and I applaud the police for doing such a good work even though I suspect it is often a thankless job.

Do we have 2 police forces?

[marty]

no, RM only has 2 brain cells.

[ElCoyote]

Wrong.

.

Your identity is confirmed by writing your QID on the ticket.

I can spell cunt just as well as any cop, doesn't make me a bonafide officer

There is no requirement to wear your hat.[/QUOTE]
Correct, all KWB's are gynaecologists and can recognise a cunt at 100 paces hat or no hat

The original question has not been answered

[marty]

yes it has dickhead.

at least twice

[Coyote]

Of course there's always one or two who seem to think a long loud abusive(from them) road-side chat is the essential part of being stopped, good fun, it livens up my day..

Would you prefer we made a fuss more often?

[The Pastor]

Do we have 2 police forces?

when did i say that?

[marty]

read paturoa's post again

[scumdog]

This thread is littered with people that can't be bothered reading the posts. (or even attempt to understand them

[spudchucka]

The original question has not been answered

It has, even though it was completely stupid.

[AllanB]

Got a ticket did you?
Speeding?

Here's the shit - speed limits are law, police employed to enforce them. If you decide to exceed the posted speed and get caught, suck it up and pay your fine. Be nice to Mr/Miss/Mrs police officer when you get stopped as well - cop an attitude and you will get it back, rightly so after all you are the crim!

And no I am not a cop
or gay (ride a dam fine Honda though)
or 112
or a Jesus freak
or a green party tree hugger
and yes I have been know to speed...

[Ixion]

Sigh. You are so going to get yourself in the shit.

In answer to the original question

Does a cop have to identify himself? No, until he gives you a ticket . Then his badge number (and I think his name, too, but I'm not all that familiar with tickets) will be on the ticket.

do they have to be wearing the correct uniform (i.e., the hat) ? That damned hat again. No a cop does NOT have to be wearing uniform, or a hat, or indeed anything at all to give you a ticket. He can give you a ticket stark naked if he wants. If a cop was having a shower, and stuck his head out the bathroom window and saw you speeding on one wheel, and got your rego, you can expect at least a ticket, uniform or no uniform , hat or no hat.

That vexatious hat is still in the legislation

Land Transport Act 1998
Part 9 Enforcement of responsibilities (s 113 to s 132)
General enforcement powers
S113 (3)

"An enforcement officer in uniform or wearing a distinctive cap, hat, or helmet, with a badge of authority affixed to it,".

There's your hat. But that clause is nothing to do with giving you a ticket. It is about requiring people to stop, and the officer having the authority to direct traffic.

it would obviously be a bit off if any nutter could leap out at people and order them to stop just by saying "I'm a cop". So the law says that you are only required to stop if the person is in uniform or wearing a hat etc. OR for red and blue lights and siren . Please note that last sentence. And if the cop has a plodmobile he doesn't need any of the other stuff.

Back in the MoT days, some of the local body snakes were rather relaxed about uniforms. And were fond of hiding in bushes with a stop watch and leaping out to stop errant motorists (I'm talking 50+ years ago here). Motorists objected to stopping for someone in plain clothes , who they had no way of knowing was a cop. Hence the hat.

Absence of a hat will NOT get you out of anything. Except a failing to stop charge if the cop was on foot in plain clothes (and even then, only if you had no reasonable grounds to believe that he was a police officer). Which will be a very rare situation indeed.

[paturoa]

when did i say that?

right here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=46159

[jaykay]

Well, this is all very interesting. You see I was in court the other day (helping), and the police woman said whilst on the witness stand that you don't have to stop for the police and they can't do anything if you simply drive away. The big problem the police actually have is that when they do stop you there ask them if they are detaining you, if the answer is no...drive off - if the answer is yes then they must read you your rights (to remain silent).

If anyone is interested I have some good methods of having some real fun with those brain dead individuals at the Police Infringement Bureau. It won't cost you a cent with a real chance of a ticket ending up in the "too hard" basket. Does it work? Oh yes! The Police have dropped the last three tickets against me, I've helped a company avoid paying over $1000 in fines for a dozen tickets - and got a few others that have been ongoing for literally months.

Everyone should fight every single ticket, and at least ensure that the cost of trying to collect the fine is more than the fine.

So I've got this parking ticket for $12.....that went throught the District Court, guilty (now $12 with $30 costs), council asked for $55 in costs - refused.....appealed to the High Court - ordered to pay the $42, but no other costs (as the council had lied to the court on a previous occassion)....it's now over two years old.....and I still haven't paid. Yes the ministry of justice write to me....and I write back.....and they write to me...and I write back etc etc.....then they give up. Then the letters start again....so I ask what it's all about etc etc. With the council's costs at a couple of thousand and the courts costs at perhaps a thousand it is very good value for money and recommended for everyone.