I was really pissed off when I read about the proposed detector ban. The good news is that they are talking two years and by that time this bag of arseholes that passes for a Government will hopefully be gone.
There are a number of options to be considered before ditching the detector though, one of which is to finally buy that Harley...
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From http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10483863
Radar detectors will become illegal, attracting fines and demerit points on an escalating scale in a three-year, phase-out plan. Those using detectors will initially face $50 fines and 25 demerit points, rising to $150 fines and 75 demerit points in the third year.
Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven said he was prepared to withstand a potential backlash by those using detectors to lessen their chances of being caught
"My job is to try to save lives out there on the road - if people don't like it, tough."
"And, look, the luscious and fecund fronds of the Silver Fern has given brilliant birth to a stupendous fruit! A red Hondaberry, desposited by a lesser known species of Plonker Gittus Maximus Idiotus."
It's not that big a deal really. They're illegal in the UK too but that doesn't stop people from using them.
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it will be interesting to see how the law is written. how could they prove that a detector was being 'used'?
from experience i know if someone has a detector and they are tracked by radar - a sudden braking action gives it away, however by the time the patrol car is behind you, the detector is in the glove box. surely they cannot make it illegal to have one in your car - even turned off.
Suggest when this finally comes to fruition. We find a small black box that can be bought at "The Warehouse" get the receipt, every bike rider get one and velcro it to the handlebars. Put your house key in it and your ear plugs so when you are stopped you can show the police that it is there for a reason. That makes every biker a target to be stopped and I would think after a while even the police would give up.
spd:-)
How do you figure it's not a right?
Could you please define a privilege as distinct from a right?
What is the message you are trying to convey there Toaster - that we should be eternally grateful that the powers that be deign to allow us plebs to use the road at their whim?
Hmmm, I must say after having read about the whole "initiative" against speeding in the Press this morning that I am appaled.
I don't understand why it is so hard for the people "Up-stairs" to realise that the people that are going to be affected the most by such legislations are the ones that are generally playing by the rules (don't do runners, drive warranted and registrered vehicles, don't speed dangerously, etc.) not the truly angry and dangerous drivers out there who put our lives at risk every day.
There's only one word to describe the new rules: Draconian.
Why not just do the job properly and say zero-tolerance to speeding? Give the police the right(and duty) to execute anyone who exceed the posted speedlimit on the spot!![]()
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That meaningless mantra "it's a privilege not a right" is utter bollocks . Those who keep mindlessly chanting it display thier ignorance and prejudice.
The RIGHT is use the Queen's Highway is indeed a right available to every citizen . And has been for at least 1000 years.
That is why you can only be forbidden to do so if you are convicted of a crime by a court. And why stopping a road is a complex and legally prescribed process.
The difference between a right and a privilege may easily be shown. If I were to own a farm, with a private road through it, I might allow you to use my road as a privilege. Because it is a privilege, I could revoke it at any time. For no reason at all. "Sorry mate, I don't want you using my road any more. No reason, I just don't want you on it". End of story. And I might allow you to use it, but not Harry. This is a privilege - a special advantage or benefit. Compare this with the public highway. Anyone may use it, and noone can arbitrarily tell you you cannot.
If you wish to drive a car on the public road, you must demonstrate competence to do so, by obtaining a licence . And if you commit certain crimes your licence may be revoked. But the issue of a licence is also a right not a privilege. Just as using the road, provided you meet the conditions , you are entitled to one. No-one can say "You have passed the test, but I'm not going to give you a licence. No reason, just don't want to. Sorry". Most rights have some qualifying condition attached. Would the mindless chanters claim that the right to vote is a privilege? Yet you must meet conditions for that. And if you commit certain crimes your franchise may be revoked.
"It's a privilege not a right" is total nonsense. Worse, those who chant it (and have not the slightest notion what they are talking about) are actively endorsing one of those small steps which, taken in aggregate, lead us down the path to totalatarianism. Such people are a danger to all freedom.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
The Government wants to ban radar detectors and fine drivers $150,000 if they are caught using them
21 December 2007
The Government wants to ban motorists from having radar detectors in their vehicles.
It is part of a road safety strategy the police and Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven have released today. They want to make it illegal for drivers to use the radars, which alert motorists when a police car is nearby.
Under the proposal, the ban would be phased in over two years, and once it is fully in place drivers found to be using a radar will be fined $150,000 and receive 75 demerit points.
A driver would lose their licence once they received a total of 100 demerit points.
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