Giving way to right-turning vehicles?

[phoenixgtr]

It's uncommon to find it, so nobody knows what to do.

The street I live down is like this. Noone has a clue they have the right of way when they're coming out so I usually end up going first, just carefully to make sure they're not someone who actually knows their road rules

[Usarka]

I was taken through one of these on my licence so it does pay to understand (and you should anyways or you become one of the nong-heads who cause traffic chaos).

Nowadays, if i'm in the car i assert my rights, if I'm on the bike i do what it takes to get through in one piece, with the odd bit of "driver education" thrown in


something else i've been told, this doesn't apply to driveways because if you are exiting a driveway you are supposed to give way to people on the road.

BUT public access driveways like the one at foodtown supposedly are treated like road intersections.

[jim.cox]

Since I'm usually on two wheels and not in an armour plated cage

I tend to give way to any and everything

and treat all motorists as homocidal morons actively out to get me

Paranoid? Who me?

[hellnback]

Yeah this hardly ever pops up.....
It's uncommon to find it....

Just about all the roads in my town are like this!!

[firefighter]

Was just reading the road code online to refresh my memory for licence tests tomorrow (6R & 1L) and came across this


Just wondering if anyone sticks to this rule? I don't think I've ever come across an intersection like this, I've only ever seen ones where the side street / carpark entrance had the double white Give Way lines, in which case this doesn't apply... right? I'm confused now...

yeah dude for the sake of your test make sure you do but on the road on-one realises it they just presume they have the right of way, if your giving way you'll be sitting waiting for ages for them to go then they'll look at you like your an f-wit, then wave to say thanks as though your being polite for 'letting them in' when they had the right of way the whole time (obviously this happens to be heeeeaps!!)

[Freakshow]

I always think about these as if they are a round about and it works. The thing is that 90% of the time these places will be something like a give way or stops sign.

[Steam]

I just got a job as a bus driver in Dunedin. I'm gunna obey this rule to the letter and squash cagers! Don't worry, I'll be nice to riders.

[swbarnett]

its actually quite simple really
just think about it

Its a simple right hand rule , give way to the right , nothing on you right just go . hit something on there drivers side , tough shit there fault

It's not simple at all. You have to look for the give way or stop sign on the side road. If we gave way to the left we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Part of the function of road rules is to mirror common sense. It seems to me that, in this case, it does not.

[The Stranger:Me]

The rules are actually very simple and straightforward. Probably the simplest possible rule set you can have -- just give way to your right. But numbnuts drivers can't necessarily make sense of that.

This man speaks the truth.

The entire give way system can be summed up in a few words.

Give way to anyone who would hit your driver's door.

It's the law, and it happens to coincide with natural law also, which should make it easy for the simple folk.

As for numbnuts drivers not understanding that simple all encompassing law, do you really think chaning the law will help them?

[avgas]

Here is the simple rules i follow:
Give way - stop for everything
Stop - Stop
Flush medium/turning right on road - give way to everything but that which is at either another give way or a stop

[swbarnett]

The entire give way system can be summed up in a few words.

Give way to anyone who would hit your driver's door.

Unless the law says you don't have to. Driving on the left and giving way to the right introduces too many exceptions. We should be giving way to the left like they do in Europe (drive on the right - give way to the right, drive on the left - give way to the left).

[johan]

Unless the law says you don't have to. Driving on the left and giving way to the right introduces too many exceptions. We should be giving way to the left like they do in Europe (drive on the right - give way to the right, drive on the left - give way to the left).

I agree. This is madness.

I lol'ed and then cried when I saw Wellingtonian had half of a page explaining how to drive a roundabout, an ad paid by land transport NZ.

[Badjelly]

Just wondering if anyone sticks to this rule?

I would say 5-10% of the driving population follow this rule consistently. I'm one of that 5-10%, which leads to some fist-shaking at times.

One problem I'm noticing more these days is that on modern cars with rounded front ends, the right-hand indicator of the vehicle that has the right of way isn't visible to the vehicle that's supposed to be giving way. Then there's the problem that the vehicle that has the right of way still has to give way to straight through traffic.

On the whole, the rule is a bloody disaster, but it's the rule, so what do you do?

[90s]

Actually, the rules in Europe are simpler and make a lot more sense. The trouble in NZ is that we drive on the left and give way to the right ... The ONLY exception in the Swiss road rules is where a small side street enters a major thoroughfare. In this case there are signs telling you that the thoroughfare is a priority road and traffic on it has right of way over all side roads.

Actually there are lots of odd rules in different European countries, and some are as stupid as this rule here.
Where I first got licenced in Blelgian road turning from the right onto another rd had priority. This meant that a 120kph main rd had to give way to minor side rd traffic turning onto it - except of course most of these had stops or give ways on. But not all. So like the situation here there was great ambiguity. You'd have to be a moron to take priority by presenting the side of your car at 10kph to a steaming oncoming car at 120kph. But guess what? World is full of morons.

There was also a crazy rule whereby you had to give way to traffic coming onto a roundabout when you were already on it.

Rule here is actually manifest all the time whereby you are turning left into a rd and an oncoming car also wants to turn left. They have priority, unless they are in a lane that has a yield, in which case they generally assume they have priority (guess what? ...).

The two situations that will happen to most riders every day that invoke this rule are (from the road code) giving way to:
- all vehicles coming towards you and turning right.
- Giving way when turning left

You need to seriously get on top of this rule to understand what drivers might be doing and why to ride safely. And assume everyone is a moron and will do the one thing they shouldn't do in any situation. Oh, good luck with you test.

[Skyryder]

Nothing difficult about the right hand rule. If you are changing direction in the absence of stop or give way signs give way to all traffic that is on your right.


The only exception to this is if the side road goes straight ahead and the main road curves to the right, you give way to turning traffic even though you are not changing direcrection.


Skyryder