Who is in the right here?

[The Stranger:Me]

i thought the person trying to enter an main arterial road from a side road had to give way to those turning off the main road into the side road, stops congestion on the main road iwould of thought.

FFS, what a pathetic piss take. At least make it look realistic.
NO one is going to believe you are that stupid.

[Ixion]

FFS, what a pathetic piss take. At least make it look realistic.
NO one is going to believe you are that stupid.

The poster may merely be of advanced age. The rule he posits DID use to be the rule (I'm not sure if it was actually law, things were not so proscribed in those days, the original Road Code was just that, a Code , not backed by law , except for speed limits in later years).

It was changed some times ago (about 60 years ago i think), but some folk have long memories.

[quickbuck]

Keep in mind this also applies to driveways. For example at your local supermarket or gas station. Unless there is a giveway sign at the exit of course.

Yep, after 22 years of driving I only got that confirmed for me the other day!

No wonder I hate supermarket car parks!

I agree it is time to scrap the rule.

Haven't read all the thread, but it was brought in on the back of what the Victorians did (The Aussies, not the people around the time of Queen Victoria). They brought in the "Give Way to the right" so that the cars got out of the way of the trams promptly.
This failed when you had a lot of cars, so they scrapped the rule 15 years ago, and invented the J-turn. This is where if you want to turn right, you actually pull over to the left in front of the traffic wanting to cross the intersection, and then head across before them....

Works well over there, because the roads are designed to be so big for the trams.
Of course, no need to do J-Turns here...

[cheshirecat]

We should send all these comments to tha AA and Gov transport bods. It's typical of the confusion caused by this blanket right hand rule. This is the most confusing counter intuitive driving law I've ever had the misfortune to come across, wide open to abuse and downright dangerous, espcially for two wheels. I mean I sat there in the middle of the road watching the car trying to turn across me, my wing mirrow for the lunatic comming up hehind and my left eye for the mother pushing her pram across the junction. Mother duck.
Not to mention allowing cars to reverse out onto the main road, 3 second indicating rule, minor roads having priority to major roads at intersecftions I mean how can a car comming out of back road have any priority over a vehicle on a main highway, two lane turning, and giving on comming vehicles crossing the centerline in front of you having priority(that's what traffic lights and roundabouts are for) and low grade tar seal and anything else!

There I've had my rant.

[The Stranger:Me]

We should send all these comments to tha AA and Gov transport bods. It's typical of the confusion caused by this blanket right hand rule. This is the most confusing counter intuitive driving law I've ever had the misfortune to come across, wide open to abuse and downright dangerous, espcially for two wheels. I mean I sat there in the middle of the road watching the car trying to turn across me, my wing mirrow for the lunatic comming up hehind and my left eye for the mother pushing her pram across the junction. Mother duck.
Not to mention allowing cars to reverse out onto the main road, 3 second indicating rule, minor roads having priority to major roads at intersecftions I mean how can a car comming out of back road have any priority over a vehicle on a main highway, two lane turning, and giving on comming vehicles crossing the centerline in front of you having priority(that's what traffic lights and roundabouts are for) and low grade tar seal and anything else!

There I've had my rant.

If it's that confusing for you, you really shouldn't have a fucken license.
Do us all a favour and hand your license in before you get someone killed.

[Max Preload]

Well, you thought wrong.
For safety's sake, I suggest you familiarise yourself with an updated version of the road code.

Yeah. One that's not hand-chiseled into stone tablets...

[The Stranger:Me]

It was changed some times ago (about 60 years ago i think), but some folk have long memories.

Only 60yrs?
My humble apologies, what on earth was I thinking, in another couple of hundred he should get it.

[homer]

jesus christ
here we go .
if your going to get hit on the drivers side , or the drivers door ( if you were in a car )
its ALWAYS YOUR FAULT

[cheshirecat]

If it's that confusing for you, you really shouldn't have a fucken license.
Do us all a favour and hand your license in before you get someone killed.

Well I'm writing form my experence of having taken UK police advanced motorcycling course (and extensively studied their bible), well over 600,000 miles throughout UK, US and Europe on bikes, three years all weather despatch riding in London ( two low speed falls and no tickets, 80,000 miles) and I've never seen such a micky mouse set of driving laws such as we have to put up with as here. Oh by the way I can count my accidents on one hand only one of which caused any significant damage and wasn't my fault, no convictions except for three speeding fines in over 40 years. These laws are counter intuitive, confusing and dangerous. If you are in the right it is dangerous to enforce your rights. I spent considerable time learning the road code here and checking with the police for interpretations, however the road code is widely abused (willfully or not) placing all parties at risk and if the rules are so effective then more countries would have taken them on board.
Rant number two

[BMWST?]

the "right hand rule" is quite logical.....its the left hand turn thing that makes it confusing....
And as far as i can remember the right hand rule hasnt really changed since 1972,except for the aforementioned left hand turners give way except....,although i do vaugley recall if two vehicles are turning right courtesy prevails
All you people who confess to not knowing the rules scare me silly......

[The Stranger:Me]

Snip - *sad appeal to authority*

however the road code is widely abused (willfully or not) placing all parties at risk and if the rules are so effective then more countries would have taken them on board.
Rant number two

So changing the rules would ensure more people read, understand them and interpret them correctly?

The rules are so simple now - give way to anything that would hit your drivers door - that fucken simple, hell it even obeys survival instincts.
Should we change all rules that people routinely ignore, hell that will sort out all our problems.

[cheshirecat]

So changing the rules would ensure more people read, understand them and interpret them correctly?

The rules are so simple now - give way to anything that would hit your drivers door - that fucken simple, hell it even obeys survival instincts.
Should we change all rules that people routinely ignore, hell that will sort out all our problems.

In a recent NZ Herald survey over two thirds of the respondents wanted it changed along with a big majority on Campbell Live.
The AA is also lobbying for a change.

[The Stranger:Me]

In a recent NZ Herald survey over two thirds of the respondents wanted it changed along with a big majority on Campbell Live.
The AA is also lobbying for a change.

Changed to what?

[yungatart]

People only want the law changed because they are too stupid/thick/lazy to understand the rules as they are.
With the constant 'dumbing down' that is legislated for in NZ, it wont be too long before the ability to think is gone from our DNA, as we will no longer need it.
Those who can't understand something as basic and simple as the right hand rule should hand in their licences.
Then watch the accident statistics go down....

[Badjelly]

People only want the law changed because they are too stupid/thick/lazy to understand the rules as they are.

Bollocks. I understand the rules very well. But I don't like them.