Cannabis legalisation

**Grahameeboy** · 11th April 2007, 20:51

Originally Posted by Joni

Yup III fair enough... however in an appropriate thread. There is a cop thread... this argument is spilling over into too many threads. Yes I know its topical at the mo, but not every person want to know who hates the cops and why.

Keep it to one thread please.

So they don't read the Threads or Posts about cop bashing.

To be honest, I think the cop bash threads are too often and getting boring but there are worse things in life to worry about and as III says this is life and the choice is still there for all to take notice, ignore or complain.

**candor** · 11th April 2007, 21:04

Idle.

Why oh why do pro legalisers keep harping back to those getting kinda crusty reports. They have gained a following and seem to be seen as like the statue of liberty or something. There is a sense of betrayal that the Govt told them everything that was music to their ears one magical moment then ignored them the whole next decade.

I have rabid cannabis supporters e-ml me with reasonable regularity to spout their propaganda and these reports are always their first and last bastion

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I've not read as....
1) boring I feel certain
2) have seen just soooo muuuuuuch recent research that disproves the earlier findings (which they spout) that pot has no serious mental effects.
3) well aware of arguments for legalising anyway

My god. Members of an org I work for send me articles and studies on a weekly if not daily basis about the effects on mental health. I no longer read them as they're fairly repetitive - is a mountain of studies given strong confirmation by everything I've ever seen possibly WRONG?!.

What really gets me is that the rabid cannabis supporters who e-ml me and there are a few main ones (they do it as I'm a spokesperson for an anti drug group) always harp on these dated reports and always annotate (incorrectly) that thee has been no reseach since to refute the major findings of these reports. Which they say are that firstly cannabis is harmless and secondly it should be legalised forthwith.

That is just so wrong. The whole attitude is Rip van winklish. And the torture (of them denying recent developments) does not stop there. They do this 'your study is wrong / mine is right' number. If I'm suckered in to debate they have this circular logic that I would swear comes from being stoned.

Whereby they start with a conclusion (as opposed to a hypothesis) and then outline why it is right - and they have readymade 'defenses' for all those tenets of their argument that are weak or wrong.

Potsmokers give new meaning to the word inflexible. Their brains are not hardwired with roach clips but seem more like solid steel to me. Also they like big words and incredibly long convoluted sentences and seem to believe their verbosity is evidence the dope has taken them to a higher plain. Another reason I could not keep one in the house. Apart from that sickly smell.

Maybe I shouldn't stereotype but it really is like pot smokers are all one organism with a shared brain. I do get the ones that write me confused sometimes - they seem interchangeable. Just got to figure out which one is the leader

**SixPackBack** · 11th April 2007, 21:10

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**candor** · 11th April 2007, 21:16

PS. Can't understand why 5% get so excited about this issue and to some it is everything. Even if they are completely right and have a valid point.... well there are about 100 much more serious issues that should be worrying anyone with a reasonable sense of priorities.

I mean its not like it isn't de facto legal anyway. If I wanted to do it I'd have no concens about the law and not many people do. Unless perhaps they're considering running for president of the USA and even then its not a serious infraction (good word Jonie). Helen looks like she did it and if she didn't I'd say she was a pretty phoney hippy. Her hubby seems the type somehow.

The hippocracy tho of heavy smokers who treat ciggy smokers as pond scum

**candor** · 11th April 2007, 21:18

You are so wrong my darling. If u met me u would finfd I am quite liberal. For example I truly believe we should have a heroin substitution program for addicts. I support party pills and wil cry for the harm that is caused if they are banned. When I said I work for an anti drug group I shoulda been clearer - anti-drug HARM group.

And tho I think pot is reasonably bad I think I'm on the neutral or maybe side for decriminalising!

**idleidolidyll** · 12th April 2007, 06:51

Originally Posted by spudchucka

One would have to be interested in the subject to bother.

that's right, so if you were to post on this thread about the subject, or were to be involved in the arrest etc of cannabis users, it would be smart to know the facts instead of just the propaganda.

**idleidolidyll** · 12th April 2007, 06:53

Originally Posted by candor

Idle.

Why oh why do pro legalisers keep harping back to those getting kinda crusty reports.

Umm, because they are in depth investigations that use science instead of propaganda, hearsay and context free anecdote?

hell, that's just smart

**Patrick** · 12th April 2007, 16:23

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

hell i like having the cops here, most of their bullshit is easy to expose.

not one of them seems to have even read the Governments' Health Comittee Report of 2003 investigating the harm of the very drug under discussion and it's even less likely they'd have read the previous two or any of the science. They just get the propaganda from the boss and run with it.

Yep, a great spotlight on bigotted yet ignorant coppers

I've read plenty of reports, one says this, one says that...

It is probably just another report that will boreme shitless....like ALL of the others.

End of the day, Misuse Of Drugs Act says it is illegal, it is the law of the land, get on with your job... thanks.

**Patrick** · 12th April 2007, 16:24

Originally Posted by Joni

Patrick, it should not be encourgaed... its the rsult of an arguement that has been going for a while and it takes a serious thread off topic...

You can find your hilarity in other threads.

Now this thread is about Cannabis, and its legislation... back on topic please.

My bad... thought I was in jokes and humour.

**spudchucka** · 12th April 2007, 16:42

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

that's right, so if you were to post on this thread about the subject, or were to be involved in the arrest etc of cannabis users, it would be smart to know the facts instead of just the propaganda.

No, to make an arrest I just have to know the legislation involved.

For the rest of it I'm happy to rely on my own experience and observations.

**scumdog** · 13th April 2007, 00:43

Originally Posted by spudchucka

No, to make an arrest I just have to know the legislation involved.

For the rest of it I'm happy to rely on my own experience and observations.

Im with that.

For all those that aren't and don't like the legislation? Bad luck!

Don't whimper on about it, DO something to get it changed to suit your agenda.

Can't do that?

Then learn to live within its confines and STOP BLOODY WHIMPERING ABOUT IT.

Enjoy life with what you have, get over your personal agendas and don't be so bitter.