It's a sad day (Virginia University shootings, 16 April)

[terbang]

People with handguns shoot people with handguns who get shot by cops with handguns and then they make it look really good in the moovies and the term blowing em away arrived and so did the shotguns and machine guns and mythbusters proved em wrong but then most stupid yanks were off immortalising chuck norris or dirty harry believing that you can get shot and still get the bad guys and then survive to the moovie credits because its their goddam fucking right to bear arms. Whew.

A stupid society.

RIP those taken down in Virginia and condolences to their families. They are victims of their countymen's folly with guns.

[ManDownUnder]

Proper education is indeed a key aspect of it, you were brought up around firearms, but theres a bit of a difference between the guns at a farm and carrying around a 9mm hand gun in your pocket all day

There's also a lot of similarities. Someone with that experience and understanding is a lot more likely to make rational decisions than someone living their childhood years through an Xbox.

That being said. I maintain there needs to be a bloody good reason to be carrying a gun. If you have no intention to kill - you have no need to carry a firearm.

[Swoop]

No i am not saying that people will automatically turn into power-crazed killers just because they have access to a weapon, but SOME people will, and it only takes one person to have another virginia shooting on our hands

Some people have access to a weapon... THEY HAVE KEYS TO A CAR.

[ManDownUnder]

Some people have access to a weapon... THEY HAVE KEYS TO A CAR.

or - I hasten to add... a motorcycle.

Bloody deadly things motorcycles. They get used irresponsibly left and right - they should be banned altogether. It's only a few that like them, and they're clearly un-needed.

They're dangerous, and only used by thrill seeking junkies who should be held down till they see reason.

The only real use for them is to get away from holdups by powering away through traffic. They're gorssly overpowered which is clearly for the sole benefit of people with ill intentions yet they're sold under the guise of transport - or sport.

It's a crock. Outlaw the lot of them. Sure they have alternate uses but we all know they're actually built for a select set of nefarious purposes.

They're kinda like guns in that respect...

[Scouse]

So you're saying it's hand that kill people?

We're all fucked then

No do you have a reading difficulty?

[alexthekidd]

Let's say, hypothetically, that I, a Bad Man, turn up at your house intent on raping the female family members, killing everybody and then nicking off with the DVD player. Let's say that I brought a gun.

Would you rather:

(a) meet me in the hallway with a gun of your own; or

(b) er... die?

So you're saying you would just shoot this person who has entered your house, not knowing if it's your kid getting up in the night to get a glass of water?

[ManDownUnder]

Fuck off and get with the program anyone would find it imposible to kill 32 people with there bare hands in the same time it takes to loose off 32 rounds.

No do you have a reading difficulty?

No - why?

Your first statement said it would be quicker to kill people with a gun than with their bare hands... ergo it is possible to kill people with their hands. And I agree with that - we both know that's true.

Following your flawless logic that means we clamp down on anyone carrying hands... or at least outlaw the use of them

So you're saying you would just shoot this person who has entered your house, not knowing if it's your kid getting up in the night to get a glass of water?

*Yawn*

Step one... identify your target

(anyone else care to spell out the reamining 6?) I can't be arsed.

[Sniper]

So you're saying you would just shoot this person who has entered your house, not knowing if it's your kid getting up in the night to get a glass of water?

Why the fuck is the kid allowed out of bed between 2100 and 0600? He is disobeying a direct rule, he should be shot

[imdying]

Step one... identify your target

Well duh!!?! How else are you going to know where to shoot to make a kill shot, if you don't even know what you're shooting at!

For example, not much shooting at adult chest height if it were Finn that broke in your house!

[alexthekidd]

Does fish really sound like the kind of person to worry about who and what he is shooting, sounds more like whip out my AK47, chuck her on full auto and let the fuck rip

[Sniper]

Well duh!!?! How else are you going to know where to shoot to make a kill shot, if you don't even know what you're shooting at!

For example, not much shooting at adult chest height if it were Finn that broke in your house!

Are we talking in NZ or America here? I mean here you can only fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. In America you could spray down the hallway.

[alexthekidd]

Why the fuck is the kid allowed out of bed between 2100 and 0600? He is disobeying a direct rule, he should be shot

Well duh!!?! How else are you going to know where to shoot to make a kill shot, if you don't even know what you're shooting at!

For example, not much shooting at adult chest height if it were Finn that broke in your house!

With these sorts of comments the only appropriate thing to do is laugh really

[imdying]

With these sorts of comments the only appropriate thing to do is laugh really

That was the idea

[ManDownUnder]

Does fish really sound like the kind of person to worry about who and what he is shooting,

As much as this pains me to say.... yes.

[Sniper]

Does fish really sound like the kind of person to worry about who and what he is shooting, sounds more like whip out my AK47, chuck her on full auto and let the fuck rip

I would check your tongue matey. Fish is one of those who I would trust to shoot your big mouth off at 500 yards