It's a sad day (Virginia University shootings, 16 April)

[Sniper]

Nuh-uh.

Here's a good example of what really happens when a responsible armed citizen is faced with such a situation.

Background details of that situation (as discussed in the glocktalk.com LEO forum at the time): robber walked in, presented a pistol, fired a shot into the ceiling, demanded money. Clerk drew and fired three shots from his Glock, all hitting robber in torso. Robber ran and collapsed just outside door. He survived and was sentenced to 8 years jail, if I recall correctly.

Clerk got a pat on the back from the local PD.

Now that's what should have happened at Virginia Tech.

You see, in NZ the animal rights activists, pacifists and hippies would all ask why he fired 3 shots instead of 1 warning shot.

[SPman]

In America you could spray down the hallway.

You mean - like dogs and cats do?????

[ManDownUnder]

So where in responsible is a Semi Auto 9MM Pistol?

There's the problem. You want the GUN to be responsible. Bad news dude - it's a person thing.

To answer what you attempted to ask
1) I know it's a rhetorical question
2) I know you don't think there's actually an answer
3) I some how suspect you're actually 12
4) It's the holidays and you're bored - I know
5) The answer would be "in the hands of a qualified/responsible gun owner"

Perhaps the Pistol club
Perhaps plinking around a farm
Perhaps anywhere that's safe to use it...

It seems there are a number of suitable answers... what a surprise.

[Sniper]

3) I some how suspect you're actually 12

He is 15 according to profile

[ManDownUnder]

He is 15 according to profile

IQ or shoe size?

[jrandom]

You see, in NZ the animal rights activists, pacifists and hippies would all ask why he fired 3 shots instead of 1 warning shot.

Hell, he had a G17. I was asking why he didn't fire 17 shots!

Actually, I thought he handled that situation pretty much perfectly. Quick draw, good stance, rapid fire bang on target's center of mass until the bad guy got through the door and collapsed, at which point he went forward to confirm that the threat was neutralised. Textbook stuff.

[Marmoot]

...This time 32 dead and many wounded....

Not meaning any disrespect, but I am wondering why this one did not receive the same reaction.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Internatio...ory?id=3041970

[alexthekidd]

so do you believe that all people that fit in this example colarado statue for carrying a concealed weapon should be allowed to?

(1) Beginning May 17, 2003, except as otherwise provided in this section, a sheriff shall issue a permit to carry a concealed handgun to an applicant who:

(a) Is a legal resident of the state of Colorado. ...

(b) Is twenty-one years of age or older;

(c) Is not ineligible to possess a firearm pursuant to section 18-12-108 or federal law; ...

[scumdog]

Fuck off and get with the program anyone would find it imposible to kill 32 people with there bare hands in the same time it takes to loose off 32 rounds.

Yeah, an arsonists work ain't THAT easy!

BTW, anybody being following the pistol shootings in London over the last year or so?
Seems the UK has some of the most draconian gun laws - pistols especially yet 15 year old wannabe 'gangstas' are shooting their rivals dead.

It's a society thing (Canada has pretty close to the same ratio of guns to people as the US - but look at their mass shooting record) and I'm concerned that maybe London is sliding into the same mentality as some of the US.

[alexthekidd]

Not meaning any disrespect, but I am wondering why this one did not receive the same reaction.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Internatio...ory?id=3041970

That puts things in perspective a little doesn't it

[alexthekidd]

There's the problem. You want the GUN to be responsible. Bad news dude - it's a person thing.

To answer what you attempted to ask
1) I know it's a rhetorical question
2) I know you don't think there's actually an answer
3) I some how suspect you're actually 12
4) It's the holidays and you're bored - I know
5) The answer would be "in the hands of a qualified/responsible gun owner"

Perhaps the Pistol club
Perhaps plinking around a farm
Perhaps anywhere that's safe to use it...

It seems there are a number of suitable answers... what a surprise.

So somewhere safe to use it is in ones pocket as they're going to get the milk?

[scumdog]

So where in responsible is a Semi Auto 9MM Pistol?

It's right up there with owning a Hyabusa.. or a Boss Hog.. or a GTR Skyline..or a blown big-block T-bucket...or???

[ManDownUnder]

So somewhere safe to use it is in ones pocket as they're going to get the milk?

That's not a gun in your pocket - it's your knob. Leave it alone.

Get back to me when you have anything decent to ask.

[Sniper]

Not meaning any disrespect, but I am wondering why this one did not receive the same reaction.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Internatio...ory?id=3041970

None taken. I saw that and was ready to comment if a thread had been put up. But unfortunatly there is too much speculation involved in that as there is in this school shooting.

Doesn't make that any less important

[mstriumph]

So you're saying the perpetrator would have been able to kill 22 people randomly without the use of a firearm?

yep
car bomb
poison in the drinking water
school canteen food [with or without the poison in the case of the school i went to .. ...]
unprotected sex with a communicatable nasty
compulsary re-runs of "days of our lives" .......

.......... possibilities are endless really