Gassing up

[Fub@r]

I fill sitting on the bike as I can get more in the tank ie: full tank and not a 8/10 fill when it on the side stand. I never take my gear off either. Other day at BP on motorway Papakura, it was a packed forecourt due to holiday weekend. I ride up open tank grab the pump, attendant inside see's me and unlocks pump. Finish filling go inside and pay and leave. Not once did anyone say I can't do that.

Yes stations have a picture saying not to do it, like wise smoking and use of phones. But then we also get told speed kills but there are some people in this thread saying get off the bike that speed on their bikes, they're not abiding by the rules.

As for modern phones causing fires is utter crap, gas station fires when filling up are caused by idiots who smoke or static discharge from your body to the car when you have your hand on the nozzle and hand near the fuel flap where the petrol fumes are more concentrated. The static discharge ignites the concentrated fumes, this is then exaserbated by the paniced person removing the nozzle from the car with out releasing the handle through shock and then proceeds to spray fuel all over the place like a flame thrower!

Likewise saw the testing of the above with phones on Mythbusters, no matter how concentrated the air/fuel mix was a phone didn't trigger a spark. However mimic a static discharge and boom! ignition. Another interesting aspect of the test was the likehood of static discharge from a person was increased if a person got in and out of the car whilst it was refueling. They found that women were twice as likely to get back in the car when it was being refuelled, usually to get their purse for example.

So given the above maybe stations should ad another picture saying you can't get back in your car once the nozzle is in the tank............like to see them enforce that one, or even better.............once your wife is out of the car they can't get back in

[Toaster]

Ditto.

I've found it easy enough to get off the bike and stand it upright anyway. That way I can actually fill the bike up properly.

Can't say I've ever sprayed my balls with gas, will have to try it sometime. Or is diesel better? Closest I've come was covering my bike with petrol after the f*ckstick who used the pump before me couldn't be arsed releasing the trigger after they put their $5 of 98 in

Reckon! don't ya hate that. I got petrol all over the damn tank instead of in it. Can't stand mine up unless on it - 320kgs ain't light (that isn't my weight by the way).

[sunhuntin]

Im sure Sunhuntin will make sure your pumps locked if you ever go to her gas station now. Fark I would, if I worked at a gassy.

Get a grip ay?

yep, disco. and here i was thinkin tonight that wed be ok to unlock pumps for bikes only when prepay kicks in.

in all honesty, peasea, the only time ive had a "moment of glory" [as you call it] was telling some jerk off to put his cigarette out as he wandered around the pumps.
and as for whether im shiny or not... there are heaps of people who come in, who likely have "better" jobs than me, who wouldnt have a clue how to pump gas. for every idiot out there, theres a pump jockey to do the dirty work for them. same with checking oil and water... i wouldnt have a clue how to drive a car [with no intention of learning] but i can do basic maintinence on most 4 wheel vehicles. or the dopey tart on the scooter who wanted me to put 2 stroke LAWN MOWER oil in the thing. told her to take a hike back to where she bought the thing, but she didnt even know how to get there!

how bout you try havin a little more respect, you never know who you will insult or annoy.

i had a look around the warning signs tonight too.. the usual engines off, no cells, no smoking. but nothing about no filling while on the bike. as ive already said, fill the bike however you like... ill come and say hi, take cash if youve got it, but otherwise leave you alone. and yeh... leave the lid on. i dunno what petrol does to the safety of them...

[Hitcher]

One of the reasons I suspect some of you folk don't take off your riding gear at a servo is because you actually never go anywhere. Having to stop and fill up every couple of hours is a great excuse to get the helmet off and earplugs out and have a yack to one's riding companion(s). And it then becomes a habit to get one's head out every time one stops for gas, as it were.

[Fub@r]

One of the reasons I suspect some of you folk don't take off your riding gear at a servo is because you actually never go anywhere. Having to stop and fill up every couple of hours is a great excuse to get the helmet off and earplugs out and have a yack to one's riding companion(s). And it then becomes a habit to get one's head out every time one stops for gas, as it were.

Commuting or going from A - B I don't take my lid off, if I'm on a group ride and stop at a servo or layby I'll be the first to take my lid off to yak.

[Ixion]

One of the reasons I suspect some of you folk don't take off your riding gear at a servo is because you actually never go anywhere. Having to stop and fill up every couple of hours is a great excuse to get the helmet off and earplugs out and have a yack to one's riding companion(s). And it then becomes a habit to get one's head out every time one stops for gas, as it were.

And that really plays shit with trip times. As few stops as possible, and those as short as can be .

What I want is a refueling system like a jet bomber - where a tanker comes along side at speed and sends over a hose, so you can refuel without stopping.

[sunhuntin]

One of the reasons I suspect some of you folk don't take off your riding gear at a servo is because you actually never go anywhere. Having to stop and fill up every couple of hours is a great excuse to get the helmet off and earplugs out and have a yack to one's riding companion(s). And it then becomes a habit to get one's head out every time one stops for gas, as it were.

i dont usually ride with others, so that eliminates chatting. if im stopping for gas, i want to be gone asap. depending on the gloves im wearing, i often leave them on as well.

only time any of that gear comes off is if im making a loo stop at the same time, or waiting for someone.

[CM2005]

i buy gas, and fill my bike at home. haha.

[oldrider]

This morning as i gassed up with 98 octane at my regular BP station (cnr Kapiti Rd and SH1) using my regular technique of sitting on the bike and rocking it side-to-side so there is no air-bubble blow-back. So many of you know where this is going right.

Forecourt dude walks up and tells me to get off the bike next time. I tell him conversationally that when I do that, the trapped air blows gas out the filler, misses the catch channel around the filler and goes onto the tank where it runs down to hot engine. I tell him that as my bike doesn't have a main stand the way I do it there is no blowback and show him the overflow system that, when the bike is upright, catches the little splashes before they can get to the tank surface.

Dude points to the lil graphic that has a big red cross thru biker sitting on bike (I have really never seen that before) and says ... "don't come back here"

WTF?? This is the station where I had to run in and try and get staff attention (unsuccessfully) the other day when a brainless was standing beside the pumps lighting a fag. Nobody gave a shit, so I had to ask the smoker guy to stop - he was less than friendly about that, thought he was going to stub it out on me!

So what is their beef about sitting on bike and carefully filling it?

They are "your" balls after all, aren't they!

Had the same sort of experience with a woman at a gas station recently.

She was lighting up while sitting in the car right next to me (with an open window) while I was filling my bike.

I asked her to go away from me and/or quit smoking, she abused me an wound the window up a bit so I yelled at her to fuck off and blow her stupid self up somewhere else.

Her driver jumped in the car and they drove quickly away, still smoking!

Don't these fucktards know I can't get a new replacement for my bike nowadays!! They don't make them anymore, damnit. John.

[Arthur]

When I used to live out on the farm, I used to stay on the bike as I was filling it, simply cos it meant more hours in the day out on the trails... With my new bike though, I park up reasonably close to the pumps, lose the helmet and gloves, bike on the side stand, and do my thing. If a cager wants to get p@##ed off with me about taking too long to leave whichever bowser I'm at, he/she is more than welcome to come have a chat with me...

[Paul in NZ]

Um.....

The company (BP), rightly or wrongly has included in there terms of doing business that you dismount to fill your bike. If you object to this you should take it up with the company and get the policy change or listen to why they have done this. Believe it or not, corporates don't do this stuff for no reason at all, it costs money. DON'T take it out on the poor unfortunate upon whom the duty of enforcing this has been placed..... That poor sap is probably getting their bum kicked by the health and safety folks inside BP and should not have to put up with your attitude as well, they could loose their job for not compling with it.... Its a slight inconvinence for you to go to another station more in tune with your own beliefs but it's a major for some poor bastard to find another job.

If you have an issue with the tank 'burping' near the top of the fill its usually easily solved with a larger vent hole drilled in the filler neck and if you can't figure out how to do that yourself without creating a smoking hole in the ground ask as it's not that difficult.

Cheers

[Street Gerbil]

I thought it was to do with your jacket & pants rubbing on the bike with possibility for a static spark or some simmilar form of ignition.

Actually the humidity here in NZ is so high that any sort of spark is impossible. In fact I am surprised we, on almost a regular basis, manage to get sparks inside the combustion chamber.

[Jantar]

Actually the humidity here in NZ is so high that any sort of spark is impossible...

Maybe you should replace "NZ" with "Auckland". The humidity in many parts of NZ is very low. In fact it is almost impossible to pat the cat without getting sparks.

[Macktheknife]

Actually the humidity here in NZ is so high that any sort of spark is impossible. In fact I am surprised we, on almost a regular basis, manage to get sparks inside the combustion chamber.

Apart from anything else, humidity actually increases the chances of creating static sparking not decreases it.

Me, I just get off and fill slowly, never had a problem. What do I care if the station or chain has a policy of not sitting on the bike, boo hoo big deal, it is no hardship to me after all.
I do not have to inhale as much of the vapours and get to stretch the legs. Instead of bitching about 'your rights' to fill your bike however you feel you should, extra litre of gas blah blah, how about just accepting that this is done for other peoples safety and convenience, and go on your merry way glad that you have a bike to fill and a road to enjoy.
Jeez people save the bitching for something that actually matters.

[Hotchefnz]

I believe its a BP thing - have had the same problem with BP in Lower Hutt.
Told the guy to F-off - but in hindsight he has a point regarding their OSH standings.
I fill while stradling as my bitch has a mean air pocket and that difference is $1-89, so just over a litre of gas. Anal maybe but I hate stopping.